What I find depressing is that it is so commonplace to to mark a "harmless joke" as "offensive." That's the most offensive thing about this entire situation.
0xB15B00B5 does not do any of the following:
1. Specifically identify any individual or group.
2. Say anything negative about any individual or group.
"I'd try to find the guy who did it and fire him. Some might argue this is an overreaction..."
Yes, it's joke comments like "0xB15B00B5" that are the real problem. However, in a shit economy taking away a person's livelihood over something completely harmless, that's fine. That's really better for society.
"I'm a male, but to me, it's just a matter of respect for other people."
And I'd argue that being a humorless twat is far more disrespectful on average than "0xB15B00B5".
There is nothing sexist about being crude. Whether it's a fart joke, a dick joke, a sex joke or a shit joke it's not sexist. It my offend someone's personal sensibilities but so what? That doesn't make it SEXIST. The idea that bathroom humor or juvenile behavior in and of itself is specifically offensive is sexist. Are you saying that a female is more likely to have more delicate sensibilities and is therefore more likely to be offended by me talking about how huge a co-worker's dump was? If so, guess who's the sexist.
And exactly who the fuck is 0xB16B00B5 "discriminating" against? Being crude and juvenile aren't inherently discriminatory.
Complaining about something that IS discriminatory is certainly something you should do. Complaining about something as innocuous as 0xB16B00B5 (and it is in this context, it's not like you left it as a post-it on some-broad-with-big-tits' monitor) just makes you a humorless twat that virtually no one wants to work with on any level.
You make a really broken assumption here: if a woman feels uncomfortable with something men are doing, she's automatically "uptight" or "frigid."
If I worked on a team where ANYONE felt "uncomfortable" by something like 0xB16B00B5, they'd be on my shit list. That's not sexist. I guess I'm a humorist because I cannot stand people without a sense of humor.
There's is nothing sexist about being juvenile or crude. Implying a female programmer isn't qualified because she's a female is.
Fart jokes are crude, not sexist. 0xB16B00B5 is juvenile (and hilarious), not sexist. If this code could have been something like 0x5MA11P3N15 (which I know is not hex) and the programmer doing it was a female no guy out there would have been like, "Woah shit, that's sexist. I feel uncomfortable." (And seriously, fuck him if he does. Wuss.) At the very least there would be no "debate."
If a "professional" environment means working somewhere that people are so on edge about being funny that something as innocuous 0xB16B00B5 might be "offensive" then please, leave it. Give me an office with jeans, t-shirts and fart jokes. Oh yeah, and boob jokes and dick jokes.
I don't want ANYONE working on a team with me that's going to feed "uncomfortable" over something this funny.
And no, it's not sexist. Anyone who works in software development knows that man boobs are probably bigger than what a lot of you females are carrying. The only thing "sexist" about this are the whiners that want to make something juvenile and ridiculous into a "debate" about "sexism" in software development.
"And believe it or not, sort of thing is the reason why there are so few female programmers."
Then the programming world is better off the way it is now. I really don't think industry is improved by disallowing a sense of humor and looking hard to find bigotry where none exists. I don't care what your sex, race, creed or color is, if you find "0xB16B00B5" to be "offensive" you're so uptight that you're really not worth dealing with.
1. I work in software development. Boobs are in no way limited to females. In fact, I probably see more man boobs on a daily basis than I do woman boobs.
2. If you can't take a joke that was in no way written to be mean, intimidating, sexist or hurtful... fuck you you fucking whiner.
I have to hear from "progressives" about the evils of religion "sanitizing" people's thoughts and minds. Is this kind of crap any different. Grow a spine. There's a HUGE difference between juvenile and hateful and if you can't tell the difference, you're just plain irritating.
For me the real joy in FPS is co-op right now. I love Left 4 Dead and Left 4 Dead 2. I was recently introduced to PAYDAY: The Heist as well. These are games I can jump into, play for less than an hour with other friends who have jobs/kids/whatever and can't treat gaming like a second career.
The stories are silly, contrived and PAYDAY is completely absurd but... I dunno, I don't care. They're fun. What I want out of video games in my 30s is much different than my early 20s. I can't sit and play for longer an about an hour or two (if I'm lucky) in a sitting. I can't spend the time to get particularly "good" at any game.
Not quite FPS, but close, is Space Marine. "Exterminatus" mode, particularly with the Chaos expansion, is really fun. Too bad the lust for DLC fragmented an already small community of gamers, so you if you're gonna play plan on playing with friends.
I'm sorry, exactly which one of 1 - 5 require "high education"?
1. So, you can't learn to research properly without going through "higher education"? Seriously?
2. Try managing your own business. You'll learn this one really quick or you won't be managing your own business for very long.
3. See above.
4. Or you could take the money you were going to drop on college and live in a foreign country for a year. Or, I don't know, find a new social circle.
5. Really?
Higher education isn't the be all, end all. It's a path and it's a useful path for a lot of people. The idea, however, the it's the best path or the only path for many goals is ridiculous. (Not the mention, the continuously inflating price of said institutions shows that academia is just as corrupt as all business out there.)
What you wear to a given event makes a statement. When you put clothing on, you're saying something. If you show up to a formal wedding in shorts and flip-flops that makes a statement. I also discriminate against people who go into libraries and yell, because it's inappropriate and shows a lack of respect for the people around them.
When it's your company or your office or your house or your event, you can do as you like. However, when it's a group even with certain standards and expectations you can still do as you like, but I'm also perfectly within my right to make judgements based on what you do.
I love Ruby. It's easily my favorite language right now.
With that said, more verbose doesn't always equate to easier to read nor does terse and short equate to simple. I'm very happy with Ruby's flexibility in that regard.
That's my general pick. And frankly, a lot of gets me hyped up!
Hearing the sales jackasses getting excited during some meeting in the office next to me is basically the most distracting thing I deal with on a near everyday basis Headphones make it go away.
There are not a lot of women in IT or development. It's not a problem. If more women want to get into the industry, they can do it the same way I did or some way that other people have done.
Is there a shortage of male nurses? How about male nannies? Does anyone really give a fuck?
It's not just the 1% who rely on high birthrates. The ponzi scheme that is Social Security and Medicare are going to be welcome casualties from this change in population growth.
Because this is Slashdot! We're full of mentally enlightened people! Why have pity for people who are mostly uneducated and a product of their upbringing? I mean, if they're third-worlders, that's one thing. However, if you're in America it's because you're some backwoods religious crank who deserves to be locked away forever. It's their fault after all.
I wish I had mod points today. Excellent response.
And while I'm a big fan of Ron Paul, I can't say I'm ever thrilled when I hear things like "gold and silver are the only real money" because it's just dumb. "Value" is in the eye of the beholder and all a government has to do to give something "value" is made it acceptable for taxes. At that moment, it has value and can be traded.
As I like to ask all the gold freaks, "What happens when we can make gold ourselves? How does your system work then?" And I ask because it's going to happen.
I live in Las Vegas and have made plenty of trips to Northern Nevada, and Northern and Southern California. While I am personally a T-Mobile subscriber, the people on the road trips that have the best and most consistant signal are the Verizon guys.
There's still a lot of dead space around here so... that's life.
Even if they did cross breed peas and fireflies, who cares? Genes are genes. All "nature" has been doing is genetic engineering. Nature doesn't "intend" for anything so human meddling—which appears to be our genetic predisposition—is perfectly "natural."
My only issue with genetically engineered food is the patent bullshit that goes with it.
I'm sorry but how exactly is an iMac (a machine that in general is running UNIX) for people who are challenged? And iChat? So if I use that as a Jabber client now I'm some kind of moron?
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What I find depressing is that it is so commonplace to to mark a "harmless joke" as "offensive." That's the most offensive thing about this entire situation.
0xB15B00B5 does not do any of the following:
1. Specifically identify any individual or group.
2. Say anything negative about any individual or group.
"I'd try to find the guy who did it and fire him. Some might argue this is an overreaction..."
Yes, it's joke comments like "0xB15B00B5" that are the real problem. However, in a shit economy taking away a person's livelihood over something completely harmless, that's fine. That's really better for society.
"I'm a male, but to me, it's just a matter of respect for other people."
And I'd argue that being a humorless twat is far more disrespectful on average than "0xB15B00B5".
There is nothing sexist about being crude. Whether it's a fart joke, a dick joke, a sex joke or a shit joke it's not sexist. It my offend someone's personal sensibilities but so what? That doesn't make it SEXIST. The idea that bathroom humor or juvenile behavior in and of itself is specifically offensive is sexist. Are you saying that a female is more likely to have more delicate sensibilities and is therefore more likely to be offended by me talking about how huge a co-worker's dump was? If so, guess who's the sexist.
And it would also be hilarious.
And exactly who the fuck is 0xB16B00B5 "discriminating" against? Being crude and juvenile aren't inherently discriminatory.
Complaining about something that IS discriminatory is certainly something you should do. Complaining about something as innocuous as 0xB16B00B5 (and it is in this context, it's not like you left it as a post-it on some-broad-with-big-tits' monitor) just makes you a humorless twat that virtually no one wants to work with on any level.
Haha. I wish I had mod points. "Go back to the fucking kitchen." FTW
You make a really broken assumption here: if a woman feels uncomfortable with something men are doing, she's automatically "uptight" or "frigid."
If I worked on a team where ANYONE felt "uncomfortable" by something like 0xB16B00B5, they'd be on my shit list. That's not sexist. I guess I'm a humorist because I cannot stand people without a sense of humor.
There's is nothing sexist about being juvenile or crude. Implying a female programmer isn't qualified because she's a female is.
Fart jokes are crude, not sexist. 0xB16B00B5 is juvenile (and hilarious), not sexist. If this code could have been something like 0x5MA11P3N15 (which I know is not hex) and the programmer doing it was a female no guy out there would have been like, "Woah shit, that's sexist. I feel uncomfortable." (And seriously, fuck him if he does. Wuss.) At the very least there would be no "debate."
If a "professional" environment means working somewhere that people are so on edge about being funny that something as innocuous 0xB16B00B5 might be "offensive" then please, leave it. Give me an office with jeans, t-shirts and fart jokes. Oh yeah, and boob jokes and dick jokes.
Thank goodness.
I don't want ANYONE working on a team with me that's going to feed "uncomfortable" over something this funny.
And no, it's not sexist. Anyone who works in software development knows that man boobs are probably bigger than what a lot of you females are carrying. The only thing "sexist" about this are the whiners that want to make something juvenile and ridiculous into a "debate" about "sexism" in software development.
"And believe it or not, sort of thing is the reason why there are so few female programmers."
Then the programming world is better off the way it is now. I really don't think industry is improved by disallowing a sense of humor and looking hard to find bigotry where none exists. I don't care what your sex, race, creed or color is, if you find "0xB16B00B5" to be "offensive" you're so uptight that you're really not worth dealing with.
This is hilarious.
1. I work in software development. Boobs are in no way limited to females. In fact, I probably see more man boobs on a daily basis than I do woman boobs.
2. If you can't take a joke that was in no way written to be mean, intimidating, sexist or hurtful... fuck you you fucking whiner.
I have to hear from "progressives" about the evils of religion "sanitizing" people's thoughts and minds. Is this kind of crap any different. Grow a spine. There's a HUGE difference between juvenile and hateful and if you can't tell the difference, you're just plain irritating.
For me the real joy in FPS is co-op right now. I love Left 4 Dead and Left 4 Dead 2. I was recently introduced to PAYDAY: The Heist as well. These are games I can jump into, play for less than an hour with other friends who have jobs/kids/whatever and can't treat gaming like a second career.
The stories are silly, contrived and PAYDAY is completely absurd but... I dunno, I don't care. They're fun. What I want out of video games in my 30s is much different than my early 20s. I can't sit and play for longer an about an hour or two (if I'm lucky) in a sitting. I can't spend the time to get particularly "good" at any game.
Not quite FPS, but close, is Space Marine. "Exterminatus" mode, particularly with the Chaos expansion, is really fun. Too bad the lust for DLC fragmented an already small community of gamers, so you if you're gonna play plan on playing with friends.
I'm sorry, exactly which one of 1 - 5 require "high education"?
1. So, you can't learn to research properly without going through "higher education"? Seriously?
2. Try managing your own business. You'll learn this one really quick or you won't be managing your own business for very long.
3. See above.
4. Or you could take the money you were going to drop on college and live in a foreign country for a year. Or, I don't know, find a new social circle.
5. Really?
Higher education isn't the be all, end all. It's a path and it's a useful path for a lot of people. The idea, however, the it's the best path or the only path for many goals is ridiculous. (Not the mention, the continuously inflating price of said institutions shows that academia is just as corrupt as all business out there.)
Yeah, I do regularly.
What you wear to a given event makes a statement. When you put clothing on, you're saying something. If you show up to a formal wedding in shorts and flip-flops that makes a statement. I also discriminate against people who go into libraries and yell, because it's inappropriate and shows a lack of respect for the people around them.
When it's your company or your office or your house or your event, you can do as you like. However, when it's a group even with certain standards and expectations you can still do as you like, but I'm also perfectly within my right to make judgements based on what you do.
I love Ruby. It's easily my favorite language right now.
With that said, more verbose doesn't always equate to easier to read nor does terse and short equate to simple. I'm very happy with Ruby's flexibility in that regard.
That's my general pick. And frankly, a lot of gets me hyped up!
Hearing the sales jackasses getting excited during some meeting in the office next to me is basically the most distracting thing I deal with on a near everyday basis Headphones make it go away.
There are not a lot of women in IT or development. It's not a problem. If more women want to get into the industry, they can do it the same way I did or some way that other people have done.
Is there a shortage of male nurses? How about male nannies? Does anyone really give a fuck?
Next.
It's not just the 1% who rely on high birthrates. The ponzi scheme that is Social Security and Medicare are going to be welcome casualties from this change in population growth.
Because this is Slashdot! We're full of mentally enlightened people! Why have pity for people who are mostly uneducated and a product of their upbringing? I mean, if they're third-worlders, that's one thing. However, if you're in America it's because you're some backwoods religious crank who deserves to be locked away forever. It's their fault after all.
I wish I had mod points today. Excellent response.
And while I'm a big fan of Ron Paul, I can't say I'm ever thrilled when I hear things like "gold and silver are the only real money" because it's just dumb. "Value" is in the eye of the beholder and all a government has to do to give something "value" is made it acceptable for taxes. At that moment, it has value and can be traded.
As I like to ask all the gold freaks, "What happens when we can make gold ourselves? How does your system work then?" And I ask because it's going to happen.
I live in Las Vegas and have made plenty of trips to Northern Nevada, and Northern and Southern California. While I am personally a T-Mobile subscriber, the people on the road trips that have the best and most consistant signal are the Verizon guys.
There's still a lot of dead space around here so... that's life.
Actually... we'll be saying hello in a big way. It'll just be a real drag.
Another brilliant post on Slashdot!
The quality of responses around here improve every day.
Same problem here. I just tried to sign up and nothing on the site appears to actually work properly.
Holy shit.
I had to watch some of this. I don't know why, but I couldn't stop. I am in disbelief at just how retarded this is.
Hope and change my friends. Hope and change.
Until we dump the two party monopoly in America, the current direction will not waver regardless of which presidential candidate gets elected.
Even if they did cross breed peas and fireflies, who cares? Genes are genes. All "nature" has been doing is genetic engineering. Nature doesn't "intend" for anything so human meddling—which appears to be our genetic predisposition—is perfectly "natural."
My only issue with genetically engineered food is the patent bullshit that goes with it.
Wait a minute? Are you saying that the situation is more complex and reasonable than the sensationalist headline implies?
No. Not here. You sir must be mistaken.
(Thanks for your reasonable input.)
I'm sorry but how exactly is an iMac (a machine that in general is running UNIX) for people who are challenged? And iChat? So if I use that as a Jabber client now I'm some kind of moron?