Kenneth Cowpland was the ultimate death of that company. They were following the embrace, extend and extinguish philosopy, unfortunately they never realized that it was the competition that they were supposed to extinguish, and not themselves. They killed WordPerfect. They let the entire graphics line die. They nearly killed the company when they put a big stake in developing a home computer which ran Java natively. They seemed to always have their heads too far into the future while their products stayed too far in the past. In short, it is absolutely amazing they stayed alive this long, depite complete and utter mismanagement. Good riddance to bad garbage.
Yes, Bell has removed their caps, but from my experience, they are very hard to deal with, do not provide a full service (port filtering) and tech support is a bitch. My Dad knows more about the computers than their level one techs. We switched him to a local provider ASAP.
My local provider really doesn't care what I do with my service, as long as I don't bother him about supporting it. No filters, no port blocking, I can serve my own webpages, e-mail, whatever I want to do, as long as I don't cause them grief. I've had the service for three years now, and I only talked to them once, and that was when Bell fscked with the MTU sizes and cut a bunch of us off.
I don't think that such accusations would stand up in court, but the fact that they will make it to court is troubling. Should they be able to make these allegations, then SCO would essentially have a license to print money, by doing exactly what they are doing now.
It boggles the mind. Make baseless allegations, sell protection, lose in court, go to step 1.
No, it's a FUD issue. It was an IP issue, then a trade secret issue, and now a copyright issue. And if the kernel guys remove all the offending code, and therefore the issues, then SCO will have to come up with some other way to make money. I just hope they're not reading my comments, and turn it back into an IP issue.
And if they are: Darl, in my opinion, the only thing good enough for you is to be skullfucked by a pilot whale in January.
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I know that it sounds strange, but this entire case sounds even stranger.
There could have been several resolutions to this case, but SCO has essentially blockaded all avenues of compromise. I could see them saying that the kernel hackers can't recode the kernel because they have seen SCO's version and will obviously infringe on it.
Any time SCO wants money, it just sues or makes everyone buy a license in perpetua.
The biggest problem with the Kernel guys redoing it, is now they can be considered 'tainted'. Hell, because of the widespread distribution of the kernel source, everyone can be considered tainted. It is now impossible to do a clean-room implementation. The innovations which SCO own (not created) could be considered inspiration to the new implementation, and therefore any new implementation would be considered a derivative work. We have to shoot everyone and start over to have a true untainted implementation.
Bring all your friends and hand off the package a million different times. Then dump it in the produce aisle. Then do it again, and again, and again. Then have everyone buy a stick of gum and walk out. See how good their cctv really is.
Just make sure you pick up the blades. It'll embarass her so much that she'll never take you shopping again. If you getting arrested doesn't work, there's always shopping for other people.
I speak from experience. I never have to shop anymore.
Because when you're talking to someone on a phone, especially in a moving jet, you're going to have to talk over the noise and reduced signal strength.
Whisper into your phone the next time you're driving and see if the person on the other side can hear you. Or plug in some amplified speakers on the plane so everyone can hear the movie. See how well that all goes over.
Now I've got no problem with casual use, but we all know how that's going to end up.
Most likely #2 is a direct result of #1. When companies have money, they spend it. When they don't, they still have to innovate. That is why Linux is becoming more high profile. The slow economy is a godsend for Linux. MS can't afford to give away their products, and we can't afford to buy them. Linus, Alan, et al can afford to give their products away, and I can afford what they're charging.
So buckle up, tighten your belts, and hope this downturn lasts a while longer. It can only mean good things in the end.
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Kenneth Cowpland was the ultimate death of that company. They were following the embrace, extend and extinguish philosopy, unfortunately they never realized that it was the competition that they were supposed to extinguish, and not themselves.
They killed WordPerfect. They let the entire graphics line die. They nearly killed the company when they put a big stake in developing a home computer which ran Java natively. They seemed to always have their heads too far into the future while their products stayed too far in the past.
In short, it is absolutely amazing they stayed alive this long, depite complete and utter mismanagement. Good riddance to bad garbage.
Yes, Bell has removed their caps, but from my experience, they are very hard to deal with, do not provide a full service (port filtering) and tech support is a bitch. My Dad knows more about the computers than their level one techs. We switched him to a local provider ASAP.
My local provider really doesn't care what I do with my service, as long as I don't bother him about supporting it. No filters, no port blocking, I can serve my own webpages, e-mail, whatever I want to do, as long as I don't cause them grief. I've had the service for three years now, and I only talked to them once, and that was when Bell fscked with the MTU sizes and cut a bunch of us off.
I don't think that such accusations would stand up in court, but the fact that they will make it to court is troubling. Should they be able to make these allegations, then SCO would essentially have a license to print money, by doing exactly what they are doing now.
It boggles the mind. Make baseless allegations, sell protection, lose in court, go to step 1.
Thanks for the info. The next time I'm in Cardiff I'll have to stop on by.
No, it's a FUD issue. It was an IP issue, then a trade secret issue, and now a copyright issue. And if the kernel guys remove all the offending code, and therefore the issues, then SCO will have to come up with some other way to make money. I just hope they're not reading my comments, and turn it back into an IP issue.
And if they are: Darl, in my opinion, the only thing good enough for you is to be skullfucked by a pilot whale in January.
Now that it's a flamewar...
Not to mention the OS X users
Yeah, both of them
Bye bye Karma.
Even better, they are still providing the source for said kernel, in ftp://ftp.sco.com/pub/updates/OpenLinux/3.1.1/Serv er/current/SRPMS
Last kernel listed is linux-2.4.13-21S.src.rpm. Can we consider this one clean?
Get out the changelogs!
Looks like I'm going to have to go to Wales to shake his hand then.
Hey Alan, you mind people dropping in on you?
I know that it sounds strange, but this entire case sounds even stranger.
There could have been several resolutions to this case, but SCO has essentially blockaded all avenues of compromise. I could see them saying that the kernel hackers can't recode the kernel because they have seen SCO's version and will obviously infringe on it.
Any time SCO wants money, it just sues or makes everyone buy a license in perpetua.
The biggest problem with the Kernel guys redoing it, is now they can be considered 'tainted'. Hell, because of the widespread distribution of the kernel source, everyone can be considered tainted. It is now impossible to do a clean-room implementation. The innovations which SCO own (not created) could be considered inspiration to the new implementation, and therefore any new implementation would be considered a derivative work.
We have to shoot everyone and start over to have a true untainted implementation.
Or we could bury SCO.
Ahh, the furries must love you.
Bring all your friends and hand off the package a million different times. Then dump it in the produce aisle. Then do it again, and again, and again. Then have everyone buy a stick of gum and walk out.
See how good their cctv really is.
Just make sure you pick up the blades. It'll embarass her so much that she'll never take you shopping again. If you getting arrested doesn't work, there's always shopping for other people.
I speak from experience. I never have to shop anymore.
They really don't like when you do that. Especially if you're wearing your bathrobe when you get down to business.
Are you so indespensible to your company that it would be a disaster if you were out of reach for some hours?
If yes, WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING ON A PLANE?
Do your shareholders know? What's your disaster plan in the event of your death?
I don't think that the U.S. would ruin a nation's economy just because of little old me.
They'd probably just stick me in Guantanamo for musical terrorism.
Oh no you won't!
but put the damn drink down.. grab the big dealy between your legs and look out the shiny thing infront of you
You just described my friday night.
Oh wait, you said big dealy.
Because when you're talking to someone on a phone, especially in a moving jet, you're going to have to talk over the noise and reduced signal strength.
Whisper into your phone the next time you're driving and see if the person on the other side can hear you. Or plug in some amplified speakers on the plane so everyone can hear the movie. See how well that all goes over.
Now I've got no problem with casual use, but we all know how that's going to end up.
Like cellphones in the movie theatres, busses, resturaunts et al weren't bad enough.
Thanks Airlines, could you stab me in the back while your at it? Or how about screaming kids fly free policies.
WHAT? NO GIRLS?!?!!
I may have to reconsider.
Could you place me a little closer to the communists than the liberals. I feel more at home there.
Most likely #2 is a direct result of #1. When companies have money, they spend it. When they don't, they still have to innovate. That is why Linux is becoming more high profile.
The slow economy is a godsend for Linux. MS can't afford to give away their products, and we can't afford to buy them. Linus, Alan, et al can afford to give their products away, and I can afford what they're charging.
So buckle up, tighten your belts, and hope this downturn lasts a while longer. It can only mean good things in the end.
I'm in, but how we going to drag the fiber up so we can still get Slashdot?
No, that's just what Ballmer does in his pants everytime an entire city chooses Linux over Microsoft. Hell, if it were my job, I'd be doing that too.