Let's see what the courts say on this one. I would love the courts to say that it was illegal for an outside provider to broadcast network signals onto your property.
You're a bit too late. I kept one for myself, and the rest went to friends who were going for their CCNA. I should have kept them. It's pretty expensive to put a router lab together.
This is really no joke. With the 3 year EOL policies of a lot of companies, there is a lot of equipment which is simply thrown away, not because it is broken, but because it's out of warranty. I got a handful of Cisco 2500's after a company upgraded their network. They were useless to the company, as they had depreciated too much and had been EOL'd by cisco.
I'm just waiting for a couple of Catalyst switched to be made redundant.
Rebirth must come via legislation. Any attempts at a rebirth via technology will end up the same way.
We can run an internet underground, connecting sites via wireless gear, and that would be legislated, not to mention that it does not scale well. We can purchase expensive gear, but we cannot connect it via private lines. We cannot lay fiber or copper. We could buy fibre and copper, but we don't have enough money. If I understand what you're talking about, QC runs over the existing infrastructure, and therefore can be regulated. Run wirelessly, all communications are self-regulating. Without substantial infrastructure, planning and money, it will never be more than a pet project.
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I am not sure why this was marked as offtopic. A little doomsday-ish maybe, but not offtopic. Face it, everyone is vying for control over the net. The Chinese government wants to control it, The U.S. Government wants to control it, the corporations want to control it.
They have concluded what Marshall McLuhan had years ago, that the medium is the message. The natrual extension of this is that whoever controls the medium, controls the message.
Without the anarchy which fostered the internet, we will end up with another passive form of entertainment that is inaccessable to the masses from a broadcast standpoint, television.
The internet is the voice of the people (scary,innit?). Sure some people speak louder than others, and some are leaders while others are followers. But everyone has a voice, and that is what is being taken away from us, slowly at first, and then with great vigor as we become more complacent.
I have a website, and nobody in their right mind would give me a television show. I don't know if that's considered progress, but I like where this whole internet thing could go, if only we're allowed to take it there ourselves.
$40 bucks is nothing when compared to getting a CD mastered. Let alone distribution costs. If the band can't fork over $40 bucks, then their music probably isn't worth the $0.99 download.
If only it were that easy. Dollars to donuts that not every single home lan gateway can be upgraded via firmware. Not to mention the patch to their operating systems, the new need for firewalls which are properly configured. Hell, most people don't even change the default passwords on their routers. Port scan your network for open web ports some day. 90% of them are DSL or Cable routers with default passwords.
You think there's a problem with script kiddies now, wait until there are 2*10^38 potential addresses to own, running unpatched, unfirewalled, unadministered typhoid mary of the internet operating systems.
Let's just deploy it! Nevermind the fact that a lot of equipment has to be upgraded. Never mind that nobody's really been playing with it, nevermind we're all in a recession. Let's just do it.
Google is an important tool, but not always the right tool for the job. If you want recipes, check out epicurious, a search engine for recipes, which I found via google, on a search for 'recipe'. Google should be considered the first stop on the information superhighway, not the only stop.
If people can't figure that out, they're not going to do much better with another search engine.
The article does however give an interesting insight on how information is arranged on the internet, and the personification of our own idiosyncracies is shown through Google.
And all the shopping, paid links, popups, and crap that goes with it. Let them have their limited, corporate sponsored internet. Let them be spoonfed information, rather than blasting them with it and having them make an informed opinion or judgement. Let them have their MSN.
Just makes it easier for the aliens to take over, and until then, keeps them the hell away from me!
I think we will see that there is some deal between M$ and SCO.
I would love to see that. If that doesn't scream antitrust at the top of its lungs with a roman candle sticking out of its ass and a giant neon arrow pointing at it, I don't know what does.
IBM is a lot bigger than Netscape ever could be, and will most certainly decimate MS in a civil suit.
SMP came from Alan Cox's work with Caldera-sponsored equipment. A portion of NUMA came from IBM, as did the RCU which allowed greater scalability of the SMP kernel, mostly from removing overhead and latency with talking to many procs. The RCU which was sponsored through IBM, actually came from an acquisition of IBM, who essentially wrote it from scratch. It is the licensing terms and 'derivative work' stipulations which cast doubt on much of the validity of the added code.
Unfortunately, we will have to wait until April 2005 before we know exactly how far the term 'derivative work' encompasses. Is merely seeing Unix code enough to make any additional coding a derivative work? I say no, SCO is saying yes.
And oh yeah, go back under the bridge, troll. That wasn't even creative. j00 ()w|\|z3r3d nobody.
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Let's see what the courts say on this one. I would love the courts to say that it was illegal for an outside provider to broadcast network signals onto your property.
Can anyone else see the ramifications of this?
You're a bit too late. I kept one for myself, and the rest went to friends who were going for their CCNA. I should have kept them. It's pretty expensive to put a router lab together.
This is really no joke. With the 3 year EOL policies of a lot of companies, there is a lot of equipment which is simply thrown away, not because it is broken, but because it's out of warranty.
I got a handful of Cisco 2500's after a company upgraded their network. They were useless to the company, as they had depreciated too much and had been EOL'd by cisco.
I'm just waiting for a couple of Catalyst switched to be made redundant.
Thanks for the bug report.
Rebirth must come via legislation. Any attempts at a rebirth via technology will end up the same way.
We can run an internet underground, connecting sites via wireless gear, and that would be legislated, not to mention that it does not scale well. We can purchase expensive gear, but we cannot connect it via private lines. We cannot lay fiber or copper. We could buy fibre and copper, but we don't have enough money.
If I understand what you're talking about, QC runs over the existing infrastructure, and therefore can be regulated. Run wirelessly, all communications are self-regulating. Without substantial infrastructure, planning and money, it will never be more than a pet project.
I am not sure why this was marked as offtopic. A little doomsday-ish maybe, but not offtopic. Face it, everyone is vying for control over the net. The Chinese government wants to control it, The U.S. Government wants to control it, the corporations want to control it.
They have concluded what Marshall McLuhan had years ago, that the medium is the message. The natrual extension of this is that whoever controls the medium, controls the message.
Without the anarchy which fostered the internet, we will end up with another passive form of entertainment that is inaccessable to the masses from a broadcast standpoint, television.
The internet is the voice of the people (scary,innit?). Sure some people speak louder than others, and some are leaders while others are followers. But everyone has a voice, and that is what is being taken away from us, slowly at first, and then with great vigor as we become more complacent.
I have a website, and nobody in their right mind would give me a television show. I don't know if that's considered progress, but I like where this whole internet thing could go, if only we're allowed to take it there ourselves.
I doubt it.
Most of the musicians, or artists of most sorts, which I know are broke as well.
Yet they have the best pot. Strange how that works.
$40 bucks is nothing when compared to getting a CD mastered. Let alone distribution costs. If the band can't fork over $40 bucks, then their music probably isn't worth the $0.99 download.
Fuck you RIAA. Put that in your pipe and smoke it!
Your stranglehold on the industry is over!
I heard it, and I still don't believe it.
William Shatner sings the Beatles.
And it's way overpriced. Even for an entire album.
Thanks. I'll have to go get a new one, I think that mine is worn out.
If only it were that easy. Dollars to donuts that not every single home lan gateway can be upgraded via firmware.
Not to mention the patch to their operating systems, the new need for firewalls which are properly configured. Hell, most people don't even change the default passwords on their routers. Port scan your network for open web ports some day. 90% of them are DSL or Cable routers with default passwords.
You think there's a problem with script kiddies now, wait until there are 2*10^38 potential addresses to own, running unpatched, unfirewalled, unadministered typhoid mary of the internet operating systems.
No, but Mom&Pop shops will have to. Small businesses will have to. People being hit hard by the recession will have to.
Quick and painless this is not, otherwise we would have done it a long time ago.
Let's just deploy it! Nevermind the fact that a lot of equipment has to be upgraded. Never mind that nobody's really been playing with it, nevermind we're all in a recession. Let's just do it.
Speaking of googlefight, SCO Vs. IBM
Why didn't we think of this sooner? IBM by a landslide!
Google is an important tool, but not always the right tool for the job. If you want recipes, check out epicurious, a search engine for recipes, which I found via google, on a search for 'recipe'. Google should be considered the first stop on the information superhighway, not the only stop.
If people can't figure that out, they're not going to do much better with another search engine.
The article does however give an interesting insight on how information is arranged on the internet, and the personification of our own idiosyncracies is shown through Google.
And all the shopping, paid links, popups, and crap that goes with it. Let them have their limited, corporate sponsored internet. Let them be spoonfed information, rather than blasting them with it and having them make an informed opinion or judgement. Let them have their MSN.
Just makes it easier for the aliens to take over, and until then, keeps them the hell away from me!
I think we will see that there is some deal between M$ and SCO.
I would love to see that. If that doesn't scream antitrust at the top of its lungs with a roman candle sticking out of its ass and a giant neon arrow pointing at it, I don't know what does.
IBM is a lot bigger than Netscape ever could be, and will most certainly decimate MS in a civil suit.
SMP came from Alan Cox's work with Caldera-sponsored equipment. A portion of NUMA came from IBM, as did the RCU which allowed greater scalability of the SMP kernel, mostly from removing overhead and latency with talking to many procs. The RCU which was sponsored through IBM, actually came from an acquisition of IBM, who essentially wrote it from scratch. It is the licensing terms and 'derivative work' stipulations which cast doubt on much of the validity of the added code.
Unfortunately, we will have to wait until April 2005 before we know exactly how far the term 'derivative work' encompasses. Is merely seeing Unix code enough to make any additional coding a derivative work? I say no, SCO is saying yes.
And oh yeah, go back under the bridge, troll. That wasn't even creative. j00 ()w|\|z3r3d nobody.
I've been online way too long. I understood that, save the very last. I got as far as ...
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Obfusticated until it makes sense. Just like the SCO situation.
Just let me dance first. I'd hate to ruin my shoes.
SCO will die.
And thousands of geeks will tapdance on their graves.
I had a hard tiem running napster on it, let alone even making a ssh connection. Maybe they changed their ways.