... to hear flash and macromedia in one sentence and go gleefully typing away about animation and "skip intro" and all the bullshit... RTFA... it's about presenation layers... it's about application development, not websites... if you heard "skip intro" last year, or the year before, the one before that... well go find what else people are saying about flash now... you might even learn something new... if nothing at all, keep this "The simplicity and richness of a Flash interface makes devices more user-friendly and enhances the customer's experience with rich content."
if you are not in the business of creating rich user experiences, well, that means nothing to you... and of course, you can keep rattling all the BS you've been rattling, because anybody in the know knows you are just on the other side... it's a human trait... people hate what they don't understand... funny, i thought the/. crowd were no mere mortals
and note that EA has a formal policy of hiring young, naive people who are willing to work long hours for low pay
call it unethical, but if they were in short supply, then EA'd be forced to look elsewhere? in any case, if the working conditions are not so good, well at least EA is "reputable"... so that get it on your resume and move on?
I was reading this article yesterday, all the time thinking... Groklaw.. shut up!... an excellent article that answers the SOL Question I had put out when/. broke the story, beautifully... oh! why I want them to shut up? well, it might not count a lot, but if MS hasn't really thought this through well, which is what the article seems to be pointing to in part, then such articles are going to make them rethink and rethink and rethink... and find some settlement out of court... that means, the very gems the article pushes that we get to collect... well, we don't get to... but of course, if they (groklaw for foss) are going to build support prior to the case to undertake the project, then the only way is to put out such, no? catch 22?
it is no longer a "free market" if 1 person is pulling the strings; which is what they (novell) hopes to prove in court...... you lost on the non-free market, try to get compensated in court; in the process, try to get the market free (as should be)
i find it interesting that the first card ms has pulled out (in their press release) is the statute of limitations... ianal, but the _actual_ time the clock starts ticking could actually be argued? plus, if that really is a limitation, then novell could file in a state that has a higher cap on the SOL?
The iPod appeals to people who already have a lot of gadgets.
That might be true, but it is a faulty premise; having lots of gadgets does not mean you want to carry them ALL around ALL the time... infact, that you can carry _so much_ music, in _so little_ a package (together with all the style) is what sells the ipod... why would i want to browse my pictures on an ipod for a 100 bucks when... you said it... "You can get a "real" no-frills digital camera (ie: the equivalent of a 35mm point-n-shoot) for just about $100 at BestBuy, and probably for a lot cheaper with rebate.... if i'm supposed to like many gadgets, I might as well carry that 100-dollar camera with me... be able to take pictures with it and browse them as needed.... now don't even start me on gee... the iphoto comes with 40/60 gigs... I can understand it if you want to carry 40 gigs of sound around all the time... of course, you'll hardly listen to the bulk of it... but who in their right minds store 40/60 gigs of pictures and _need_ to carry them ALL, ALL the time
thought i'd throw in a link to AW remote commander. it ranks right in there with radmin, and might even be better (depending on who you talk to). check it out
Apple wields no such clout as to what you purport here... true they might have about 50% marketshare or so, but as this [http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/8407] article (Your 99c per iTunes download belong to the RIAA) explains, Jobs admitted that Apple makes no revenue from the online download service they provide... so that the only real benefit Apple directly makes out of the service is it market's their ipods... the second point is the fact that apple commands no real clout when it comes to negotiations with the recording industry... as this article [http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/8514] clearly explains, "it would appear that they could negotiate better royalty rates with labels, but as the Music industry is composed of thousands of publishers and five major record labels, it still makes it difficult to get them all to agree"... and nobody wants DRM anyway... as says ballmer: "the most common format of music on the ipod is 'stolen'." [http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/10/07/ballmer_d oesnt_get_it/ ]... of course, that's M$ and fud... what ballmer really wants to say is "people still download their music from elsewhere"... so that itunes is really just a facade to sell ipods
what's #1? because if it's what i think it is and wasn't enough... maybe you were preaching to the wrong crowd? in which case they couldn't give a fart's ass what #2 is?
it's just like an ignorant slashdotter to day something negative about flash and expect to get away with it... seriously, flash crashes your browser? tell me which plugin ver you have... and please don't say you are running IE 5.0
It is intersting how we often get away easily by not making definite claims... 10%? what exactly would that be?
granted, some (most) projects do not get down to documentation and such and such... but that would be you looking at failed projects or not-so-successful ones. as in my previous posts, the successes of the OS model have been belabored enough. people enjoy the fruits of OSS, forget them, and start looking for holes in the model to throw slingshots at; it is ok to criticize, as long as you do it to say "look, here is how this could be done"... it is not a perfect medium/model, but it does work... you are here to contribute because of OSS... slashdot runs on apache--but, of course!! OSS powers the internet... cliche, but so what?
the really hard work necessary to complete linux has yet to be done
the really hard work? maybe you could catalog that for everyone else to read... but linux works for me. still, forget about linux for a jiffy... think what does OSS really mean...
i'll tell you where to look, just for example. Macromedia Flash/ActionScript... This is closed software. Its success is however due to a community operates in a very OS way. Does is surprise you then that it is about the largest designer/developer community after the obvious notables (java, c, and windows-based (targeted?) dev environs)... and speaking of java, i use jboss, eclipse and jedit... they run on windows... are very stable and feature-rich... and *VERY* OS in nature... completely OS.
Free is looked upon with a keen eye, Econ 101
Open source does not mean *free*
besides, this post is not about platforms... it's about methodology... it's about how you structure your software dev engineering process... is it collaborative? are events/milestones scheduled? who is responsible/accountable for what? how are changes made/accepted/integrated into the existing codebase? how are decisions made; is it a round table?
the gimp is just one of many initiatives out there. a lot of libraries and programs in general find their way into some commercial software as per the license applied to the project.
this is cliche, but so what... OS/FS is free as in "free speech" not "free beer"
Eric Raymond breaks this topic down in "The Cathedral and the Bazaar", and excellent read.
the opensource model is proven. the number of successful real-world projects built on the model have been belabored enough. it is the metrics you follow to adapt your particular project to it that matter, and those,ultimately, lie with you.
i tend to disagree with you... motivation is rarely a problem for OSS... you tend to forget that most people who participate in OSS are hackers by nature... the thrill or getting things done, learning new things in the process etc is motivation enough... u sum it up yourself in para 3.
hard work is what it takes to be part of *any* opensource proj. unrewarding is relative. it might be unrewarding as in "money in your pocket" but for some (most) hackers, the knowledge and experience gained in performing that ardous task far outweighs the monetary gains.
desktop publishing sees a lot of OSS initiatives. the godfather, of course, is the gimp.... then there's scribus and a hostof other initiatives out there... google for them...btw, don't just think linux when u think OSS... FrameMaker was built based on OS.
you make a good point on the proj being fun... i think the overriding factor is that the project is expected to be useful in the end... that's the only way you have fun devoting time to it.
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... to hear flash and macromedia in one sentence and go gleefully typing away about animation and "skip intro" and all the bullshit... RTFA... it's about presenation layers... it's about application development, not websites... if you heard "skip intro" last year, or the year before, the one before that... well go find what else people are saying about flash now... you might even learn something new... if nothing at all, keep this "The simplicity and richness of a Flash interface makes devices more user-friendly and enhances the customer's experience with rich content." if you are not in the business of creating rich user experiences, well, that means nothing to you... and of course, you can keep rattling all the BS you've been rattling, because anybody in the know knows you are just on the other side... it's a human trait... people hate what they don't understand... funny, i thought the /. crowd were no mere mortals
NTS: by the time this gets through, it might not be first post anymore... argh!... what i'm i doing typ....
I was reading this article yesterday, all the time thinking... Groklaw.. shut up!... an excellent article that answers the SOL Question I had put out when /. broke the story, beautifully... oh! why I want them to shut up? well, it might not count a lot, but if MS hasn't really thought this through well, which is what the article seems to be pointing to in part, then such articles are going to make them rethink and rethink and rethink... and find some settlement out of court... that means, the very gems the article pushes that we get to collect... well, we don't get to... but of course, if they (groklaw for foss) are going to build support prior to the case to undertake the project, then the only way is to put out such, no? catch 22?
it is no longer a "free market" if 1 person is pulling the strings; which is what they (novell) hopes to prove in court... ... you lost on the non-free market, try to get compensated in court; in the process, try to get the market free (as should be)
i find it interesting that the first card ms has pulled out (in their press release) is the statute of limitations... ianal, but the _actual_ time the clock starts ticking could actually be argued? plus, if that really is a limitation, then novell could file in a state that has a higher cap on the SOL?
... how the fuck i'm i'm supposed to get funding for my plans?
The iPod appeals to people who already have a lot of gadgets. That might be true, but it is a faulty premise; having lots of gadgets does not mean you want to carry them ALL around ALL the time... infact, that you can carry _so much_ music, in _so little_ a package (together with all the style) is what sells the ipod... why would i want to browse my pictures on an ipod for a 100 bucks when... you said it... "You can get a "real" no-frills digital camera (ie: the equivalent of a 35mm point-n-shoot) for just about $100 at BestBuy, and probably for a lot cheaper with rebate. ... if i'm supposed to like many gadgets, I might as well carry that 100-dollar camera with me... be able to take pictures with it and browse them as needed.... now don't even start me on gee... the iphoto comes with 40/60 gigs... I can understand it if you want to carry 40 gigs of sound around all the time... of course, you'll hardly listen to the bulk of it... but who in their right minds store 40/60 gigs of pictures and _need_ to carry them ALL, ALL the time
thought i'd throw in a link to AW remote commander. it ranks right in there with radmin, and might even be better (depending on who you talk to). check it out
Apple wields no such clout as to what you purport here... true they might have about 50% marketshare or so, but as this [http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/8407] article (Your 99c per iTunes download belong to the RIAA) explains, Jobs admitted that Apple makes no revenue from the online download service they provide... so that the only real benefit Apple directly makes out of the service is it market's their ipods... the second point is the fact that apple commands no real clout when it comes to negotiations with the recording industry... as this article [http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/8514] clearly explains, "it would appear that they could negotiate better royalty rates with labels, but as the Music industry is composed of thousands of publishers and five major record labels, it still makes it difficult to get them all to agree"... and nobody wants DRM anyway... as says ballmer: "the most common format of music on the ipod is 'stolen'." [http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/10/07/ballmer_d oesnt_get_it/ ]... of course, that's M$ and fud... what ballmer really wants to say is "people still download their music from elsewhere"... so that itunes is really just a facade to sell ipods
swf _is_ open _and_ standard... don't get your "open" and "free" mixed up
what's #1? because if it's what i think it is and wasn't enough... maybe you were preaching to the wrong crowd? in which case they couldn't give a fart's ass what #2 is?
for animation, flash works; has ninety-s'thing penetration (give or take)... what else do u want... to be able to say "i am not using flash?"
it's just like an ignorant slashdotter to day something negative about flash and expect to get away with it... seriously, flash crashes your browser? tell me which plugin ver you have... and please don't say you are running IE 5.0
It is intersting how we often get away easily by not making definite claims... 10%? what exactly would that be? granted, some (most) projects do not get down to documentation and such and such... but that would be you looking at failed projects or not-so-successful ones. as in my previous posts, the successes of the OS model have been belabored enough. people enjoy the fruits of OSS, forget them, and start looking for holes in the model to throw slingshots at; it is ok to criticize, as long as you do it to say "look, here is how this could be done"... it is not a perfect medium/model, but it does work... you are here to contribute because of OSS... slashdot runs on apache--but, of course!! OSS powers the internet... cliche, but so what? the really hard work necessary to complete linux has yet to be done the really hard work? maybe you could catalog that for everyone else to read... but linux works for me. still, forget about linux for a jiffy... think what does OSS really mean... i'll tell you where to look, just for example. Macromedia Flash/ActionScript... This is closed software. Its success is however due to a community operates in a very OS way. Does is surprise you then that it is about the largest designer/developer community after the obvious notables (java, c, and windows-based (targeted?) dev environs)... and speaking of java, i use jboss, eclipse and jedit... they run on windows... are very stable and feature-rich... and *VERY* OS in nature... completely OS.
Free is looked upon with a keen eye, Econ 101 Open source does not mean *free* besides, this post is not about platforms... it's about methodology... it's about how you structure your software dev engineering process... is it collaborative? are events/milestones scheduled? who is responsible/accountable for what? how are changes made/accepted/integrated into the existing codebase? how are decisions made; is it a round table? the gimp is just one of many initiatives out there. a lot of libraries and programs in general find their way into some commercial software as per the license applied to the project. this is cliche, but so what... OS/FS is free as in "free speech" not "free beer"
Eric Raymond breaks this topic down in "The Cathedral and the Bazaar", and excellent read. the opensource model is proven. the number of successful real-world projects built on the model have been belabored enough. it is the metrics you follow to adapt your particular project to it that matter, and those ,ultimately, lie with you.
i tend to disagree with you... motivation is rarely a problem for OSS... you tend to forget that most people who participate in OSS are hackers by nature... the thrill or getting things done, learning new things in the process etc is motivation enough... u sum it up yourself in para 3. hard work is what it takes to be part of *any* opensource proj. unrewarding is relative. it might be unrewarding as in "money in your pocket" but for some (most) hackers, the knowledge and experience gained in performing that ardous task far outweighs the monetary gains. desktop publishing sees a lot of OSS initiatives. the godfather, of course, is the gimp.... then there's scribus and a hostof other initiatives out there... google for them...btw, don't just think linux when u think OSS... FrameMaker was built based on OS. you make a good point on the proj being fun... i think the overriding factor is that the project is expected to be useful in the end... that's the only way you have fun devoting time to it.