One example being Philips TV or BluRay built on Linux. When asked for source code, it is provided, but there are no way to ensure that the source code is for the device, because the provided binaries are encrypted and signed.
This is, what could be called incorrectly referenced reference frame:) Our reference frame is special, because this is the reference frame we observe things. Why should we choose any other reference frame from multitude of infinite? And in our reference frame the supernova happened about 64 000 000 years ago. I do not understand the confusion here. I could understand the statements though if the person talking does not have insight into special theory of relativity...
MBR is 512bytes long. Have you looked inside of it? I wrote a hack some 20 years ago to enable multiboot for MS-DOS and AT&T UNIX, not with the orthodox menu, but just a text saying "Press D or U" and waiting for the keypress. As I recall, it was a very close shave. I think I used up every single byte of the given 512 minus the partition table after trying several combinations. You are right - MBR allows for infinite number of partitions (space-permitting), and space permits no more than four. Logical partitions are a different story and are described elsewhere, not in the MBR.
Someone has to register the "Almighty Filesharer" polytheistic religion in Ireland. They might worship gods named BitTorrent, aMule (also known as eMule - god is known to walk with many names), Limewire, etc. Worshipers everyday mantra should be: "Information wants to be free! **** *** MAFIAA!". Lets see who is blasphemous enough to criticize them!
If, my friend, we hadn't have the quantum mechanical phenomena, do you think that we could calculate our behaviour to the end of universe? No! That's why the Chaos Theory is made. We live in nonlinear world and for nonlinear systems one has to have infinitely precise computer. Because otherwice the calculation will very soon deviate prominently from reality (think about weather forecasts, if we would have tenfold the computation power we have now for forecasting the weather, we could maybe achieve only an additional hour more or less accurate forecast). We all would know that our lives are predetermined, but it would not be possible to know ahead what we would do!
You are absolutely right! The only thing being that by the laws of quantum mechanics, it is impossible to create absolutely accurate copy of original (ie. same quantum state) without destroying the original!
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Well. Not so lately. This was at the era of 286 computers. One of the users came complaining that he can't turn the computer off. It was Nokia 286 tower, running MS DOS, with turnable key for power switch. The program was hung. CNTRL-ALT-DEL did nothing. Turning the power key had no effect. Being desperate, I pulled the plug from the wall... The computer did not turn off . Well. The physics laws were not violated. As it turned out - I had pulled the wrong mains and the power switch was faulty.;)
The other occasion was with the visitor in the germany. He could log into terminal when typing the password standing up, but failed when typing password sitting before the terminal. Solution: german keyboards have 'z' and 'y' keys swapped. When standing up, he LOOKED at the keys and typed the password correctly. When sitting, he did blind typing and mistyped the password:)
Sun like stars do not explode into planetary nebulae. As far as I recall, small stars, like Sun, will expand into "red giants", then shrink to "white dwarfs" and eventually cool down to be the "brown dwarfs". Never exploding...
If you were just trolling, then may I ask why?
Because i'm evil *grins* And because the n-parent (aka mikk) was being an idiot and thus deserved it.
I think you are a bit too hasty giving out medical diagnoses. Mikk may have been trolling the same way as you were. Before calling him an idiot, think twice - the diagnose you are declaring may point also to yourself.
Eriti irooniline on seejuures, et kaks eestlast arutlevad nende probleemide yle (võrdlemisi kehvas) inglise keeles yhes Ameerika veebifoorumis.
Let's translate: It is especially ironical, that two estonians are arguing about those problems (in relatively poor) english, on one of the American Internet forums.
The/. forum may reside in America, but it is read and commented practically from over the globe. Does it mean that/. can effectively be called international Internet forum? I think so. The problem, we are talking about, is not internal affair of Estonia (it involves also Russia and Russian occupants, not to mention EU, USA and other parties), I think that it is not too ironical to held this dispute on the/. . After all, one of the reasons why people read/., is the urge to broaden everyones own horizon:-)
PS: May I ask, why have you replaced 'ü' by 'y' in your posting? The two characters are pronounced almost the same in swedish. Finnish people are not using 'ü' at all. But your comment was in in estonian...
Yeah, i know there weren't many Russians living in Estonia before the war. But my point was, that not all of the Russians living in Estonia are colonists.
Hmm. I beg to disagree. This was not at all the point in your previous post. Or the point was wery efficiently hidden between the lines. If you were just trolling, then may I ask why? Trolling does not get one anywhere... Let's just not troll:|
The (or, rather: another) problem is that this "integration" is more about assimilation. Russians are supposed to adopt Estonian language and culture, but this is not all there is to integration. Integration is supposed to work both ways: you give them some, they give you some. I don't, however, see this happening.
You may be right. Estonians are expecting the colonists assimilate, rather than integrate. But what else can be expected from them? Cultural differences are so big that when the integration will be actually tried, there will be estonians no more... And estonians may fear that Russia will finalize the colonization at last. Russia is making big fuss in Europe about Russian minorities in Estonia, or Latvia, or Lithuania. It is as if trying to make it look that this culture is so unique. But the fact is that this culture is not far away, given the ~60 years for it to evolve, from the Mother Russia culture. The progeny of russians, who lived in estonia before occupation actually do disdain the abovementioned minority protection. The most stable solution for all parts would be that Russia will call the colonists back. But this is not going to happen. And given the economical situation in Estonia and Russia - the colonists will not go back to Russia voluntarily, because they are mutch better off in Estonia. Would Estonia just hand them the citizenship, they will be assimilated in Europe in no time. This is, of course, if Russian will not be declared official language in Estonia.
But i still don't think this makes any difference to what i said: Estonians are voluntarily destroying their own culture.
Yes, sadly you are right. There are some, including me, who would argue that this is the direct consequense of 60 years assimilation with the culture of colonists. (I might be right, and also might be wrong, who knows...) Not the culture of Russia, but the culture of Russian colonists. They were rootless, their culture included for example going to theatre and wearng a nightgown, etc. etc... (And I am not making this up). During the 60years, inevitably some of it soaked into minds of estonians. Now when the Estonia is independent with capitalistic economy, older estonians still behave as learnt during the 60 years. This is definitely way it should not go and it makes me really worried:(
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First of all, i'd like to remind you that quite a few of the Russians (and other "aliens") living in Estonia were living there already before the Soviet occupation. It's a documented fact.
Secondly, all of them have been living in Estonia for years. I'd venture that quite a lot of them have been living there longer than you have. How come then that you are more local than they are?
Woah! Woah! Off topic it was and off topic it will be!
You seem to be misinformed, Sir! Where did You get this as a 'documented fact'? The Documented Fact IS, that before the soviet occupation, there was <5% russian-speaking people living mostly along the coast of lake Peipsi, and they spoke also estonian. There were also finno-ugrian communities over the lake Peipsi. When the soviet occupation came, the tables were turned. The local russians were suppressed, and the "common people" from russia were intoduced. They did not ask questions and did not ponder deeply what is happening. To make room for them a lot of estonians were sent to Siberia where only few of them survived. And there we are... Russia does not acknowledge the occupation, so they don't call occupants back. Estonians are stuck with them and are getting along surprisingly
well with them. Some of occupants were offered the opportunity, based on the US money, for moving back to Russia. Some of them took the opportunity and moved, but some sold the house in Russia and stayed nevertheless. The problem is that they are loyal to Russia and they do not want to integrate into Estonian society. At the other side, Russia is using them to protect it's interests. Could some of you imgine Turkey threatening Germany, because Turk-speaking people in germany are seemingly having less rights than german-speaking? But it is happening regarding Russia-Estonia:(
It is weird, but it is not illogical, come to think how badly Russians need again the free access to Baltic sea. They are still acting as occupants.
BTW, no one is speaking about the rights of finno-ugrian societies over the lake Peipsi. The territory is still under the Russia and they are integrating quite well - I am not well informed about them, but information from broadcasts television and radio suggests that they are now speaking only russian.
Noone but yourselves can destroy your language. Looking at what's going on in Estonia today, you seem to be doing quite well at it. I mean, damn, it's pure evil if someone speaks Russian, yet you don't see any problem in you and many other Estonians speaking English. Don't you find it disturbing that quite a large number of Estonians would be willing to educate their children in English only, if they were given the chance?
Again I have to wonder, From Where Did You Get This Information? Estonian social workers and other workers who have to do a lot of communication (medicine, banking, etc.) have to speak at least estonian and russian. Nobody is going to stand on toess if the Russian is heard. Mostly the estonians are answering to Russian question on the street in Russian language. There was a study about educating in english, but you did not mention that the ones, who proposed most the english-only education were the local non-estonian speaking russians. Their logic being that it is not worth to learn estonian because Estonia is so small, but english speaking would have a lot of chances in Europe and, why not, also over the ocean.
Java can also refer to SOL - a kind of shell interface licensed under GNU and running on Hewlett Packard HP48G calculators. It is not made by HP. It seems to me that one patent is talking about object oriented programming. So Kodak may fish for money all ower the woeld now?
To strighten the facts: estonian has nothing to do with scandinavian languages. But it is very close to finnish and shares roots with hungarian language.
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One example being Philips TV or BluRay built on Linux. When asked for source code, it is provided, but there are no way to ensure that the source code is for the device, because the provided binaries are encrypted and signed.
This is, what could be called incorrectly referenced reference frame :) Our reference frame is special, because this is the reference frame we observe things. Why should we choose any other reference frame from multitude of infinite? And in our reference frame the supernova happened about 64 000 000 years ago. I do not understand the confusion here. I could understand the statements though if the person talking does not have insight into special theory of relativity...
MBR is 512bytes long. Have you looked inside of it? I wrote a hack some 20 years ago to enable multiboot for MS-DOS and AT&T UNIX, not with the orthodox menu, but just a text saying "Press D or U" and waiting for the keypress. As I recall, it was a very close shave. I think I used up every single byte of the given 512 minus the partition table after trying several combinations. You are right - MBR allows for infinite number of partitions (space-permitting), and space permits no more than four. Logical partitions are a different story and are described elsewhere, not in the MBR.
Someone has to register the "Almighty Filesharer" polytheistic religion in Ireland. They might worship gods named BitTorrent, aMule (also known as eMule - god is known to walk with many names), Limewire, etc. Worshipers everyday mantra should be: "Information wants to be free! **** *** MAFIAA!". Lets see who is blasphemous enough to criticize them!
If, my friend, we hadn't have the quantum mechanical phenomena, do you think that we could calculate our behaviour to the end of universe? No! That's why the Chaos Theory is made. We live in nonlinear world and for nonlinear systems one has to have infinitely precise computer. Because otherwice the calculation will very soon deviate prominently from reality (think about weather forecasts, if we would have tenfold the computation power we have now for forecasting the weather, we could maybe achieve only an additional hour more or less accurate forecast). We all would know that our lives are predetermined, but it would not be possible to know ahead what we would do!
You are absolutely right! The only thing being that by the laws of quantum mechanics, it is impossible to create absolutely accurate copy of original (ie. same quantum state) without destroying the original!
Well. Not so lately. This was at the era of 286 computers. One of the users came complaining that he can't turn the computer off. It was Nokia 286 tower, running MS DOS, with turnable key for power switch. The program was hung. CNTRL-ALT-DEL did nothing. Turning the power key had no effect. Being desperate, I pulled the plug from the wall... The computer did not turn off . Well. The physics laws were not violated. As it turned out - I had pulled the wrong mains and the power switch was faulty. ;)
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The other occasion was with the visitor in the germany. He could log into terminal when typing the password standing up, but failed when typing password sitting before the terminal. Solution: german keyboards have 'z' and 'y' keys swapped. When standing up, he LOOKED at the keys and typed the password correctly. When sitting, he did blind typing and mistyped the password
Sun like stars do not explode into planetary nebulae. As far as I recall, small stars, like Sun, will expand into "red giants", then shrink to "white dwarfs" and eventually cool down to be the "brown dwarfs". Never exploding...
If you were just trolling, then may I ask why?
/. forum may reside in America, but it is read and commented practically from over the globe. Does it mean that /. can effectively be called international Internet forum? I think so. The problem, we are talking about, is not internal affair of Estonia (it involves also Russia and Russian occupants, not to mention EU, USA and other parties), I think that it is not too ironical to held this dispute on the /. . After all, one of the reasons why people read /., is the urge to broaden everyones own horizon :-)
Because i'm evil *grins* And because the n-parent (aka mikk) was being an idiot and thus deserved it.
I think you are a bit too hasty giving out medical diagnoses. Mikk may have been trolling the same way as you were. Before calling him an idiot, think twice - the diagnose you are declaring may point also to yourself.
Eriti irooniline on seejuures, et kaks eestlast arutlevad nende probleemide yle (võrdlemisi kehvas) inglise keeles yhes Ameerika veebifoorumis.
Let's translate:
It is especially ironical, that two estonians are arguing about those problems (in relatively poor) english, on one of the American Internet forums.
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PS: May I ask, why have you replaced 'ü' by 'y' in your posting? The two characters are pronounced almost the same in swedish. Finnish people are not using 'ü' at all. But your comment was in in estonian...
Yeah, i know there weren't many Russians living in Estonia before the war. But my point was, that not all of the Russians living in Estonia are colonists.
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Hmm. I beg to disagree. This was not at all the point in your previous post. Or the point was wery efficiently hidden between the lines. If you were just trolling, then may I ask why? Trolling does not get one anywhere... Let's just not troll
The (or, rather: another) problem is that this "integration" is more about assimilation. Russians are supposed to adopt Estonian language and culture, but this is not all there is to integration. Integration is supposed to work both ways: you give them some, they give you some. I don't, however, see this happening.
You may be right. Estonians are expecting the colonists assimilate, rather than integrate. But what else can be expected from them? Cultural differences are so big that when the integration will be actually tried, there will be estonians no more... And estonians may fear that Russia will finalize the colonization at last. Russia is making big fuss in Europe about Russian minorities in Estonia, or Latvia, or Lithuania. It is as if trying to make it look that this culture is so unique. But the fact is that this culture is not far away, given the ~60 years for it to evolve, from the Mother Russia culture. The progeny of russians, who lived in estonia before occupation actually do disdain the abovementioned minority protection. The most stable solution for all parts would be that Russia will call the colonists back. But this is not going to happen. And given the economical situation in Estonia and Russia - the colonists will not go back to Russia voluntarily, because they are mutch better off in Estonia. Would Estonia just hand them the citizenship, they will be assimilated in Europe in no time. This is, of course, if Russian will not be declared official language in Estonia.
But i still don't think this makes any difference to what i said: Estonians are voluntarily destroying their own culture.
Yes, sadly you are right. There are some, including me, who would argue that this is the direct consequense of 60 years assimilation with the culture of colonists. (I might be right, and also might be wrong, who knows...) Not the culture of Russia, but the culture of Russian colonists. They were rootless, their culture included for example going to theatre and wearng a nightgown, etc. etc... (And I am not making this up). During the 60years, inevitably some of it soaked into minds of estonians. Now when the Estonia is independent with capitalistic economy, older estonians still behave as learnt during the 60 years. This is definitely way it should not go and it makes me really worried
First of all, i'd like to remind you that quite a few of the Russians (and other "aliens") living in Estonia were living there already before the Soviet occupation. It's a documented fact. Secondly, all of them have been living in Estonia for years. I'd venture that quite a lot of them have been living there longer than you have. How come then that you are more local than they are?
:(
Woah! Woah! Off topic it was and off topic it will be!
You seem to be misinformed, Sir! Where did You get this as a 'documented fact'? The Documented Fact IS, that before the soviet occupation, there was <5% russian-speaking people living mostly along the coast of lake Peipsi, and they spoke also estonian. There were also finno-ugrian communities over the lake Peipsi. When the soviet occupation came, the tables were turned. The local russians were suppressed, and the "common people" from russia were intoduced. They did not ask questions and did not ponder deeply what is happening. To make room for them a lot of estonians were sent to Siberia where only few of them survived. And there we are... Russia does not acknowledge the occupation, so they don't call occupants back. Estonians are stuck with them and are getting along surprisingly well with them. Some of occupants were offered the opportunity, based on the US money, for moving back to Russia. Some of them took the opportunity and moved, but some sold the house in Russia and stayed nevertheless. The problem is that they are loyal to Russia and they do not want to integrate into Estonian society. At the other side, Russia is using them to protect it's interests. Could some of you imgine Turkey threatening Germany, because Turk-speaking people in germany are seemingly having less rights than german-speaking? But it is happening regarding Russia-Estonia
It is weird, but it is not illogical, come to think how badly Russians need again the free access to Baltic sea. They are still acting as occupants.
BTW, no one is speaking about the rights of finno-ugrian societies over the lake Peipsi. The territory is still under the Russia and they are integrating quite well - I am not well informed about them, but information from broadcasts television and radio suggests that they are now speaking only russian.
Noone but yourselves can destroy your language. Looking at what's going on in Estonia today, you seem to be doing quite well at it. I mean, damn, it's pure evil if someone speaks Russian, yet you don't see any problem in you and many other Estonians speaking English. Don't you find it disturbing that quite a large number of Estonians would be willing to educate their children in English only, if they were given the chance?
Again I have to wonder, From Where Did You Get This Information? Estonian social workers and other workers who have to do a lot of communication (medicine, banking, etc.) have to speak at least estonian and russian. Nobody is going to stand on toess if the Russian is heard. Mostly the estonians are answering to Russian question on the street in Russian language. There was a study about educating in english, but you did not mention that the ones, who proposed most the english-only education were the local non-estonian speaking russians. Their logic being that it is not worth to learn estonian because Estonia is so small, but english speaking would have a lot of chances in Europe and, why not, also over the ocean.
Java can also refer to SOL - a kind of shell interface licensed under GNU and running on Hewlett Packard HP48G calculators. It is not made by HP.
It seems to me that one patent is talking about object oriented programming. So Kodak may fish for money all ower the woeld now?
To strighten the facts: estonian has nothing to do with scandinavian languages. But it is very close to finnish and shares roots with hungarian language.