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Computer Voodoo?

jbeaupre asks: "A corollary to 'Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic' is that sometimes users have to resort to what I call 'computer voodoo.' You don't know why it works, you barely care how it works, but you find yourself doing the strangest things because it just seems to work. I'm talking about things like: smacking a PC every 5 seconds for an hour to keep it from stalling on a hard drive reformat (with nary a problem after the reformat); or figuring out the only way to get a PC partially fried by lightning to recognize an ethernet card, after booting into Windows, is to start the computer by yanking the card out and shoving it back in (thereby starting the boot processes). What wacky stuff have you done that makes no obvious sense, but just works?"

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  1. For most problems... by QuantumFTL · · Score: 5, Funny

    For most problems, I find smacking the user is more effective than smacking the computer.

    1. Re:For most problems... by freakmn · · Score: 5, Funny

      That has to be about the most insightful thing I've ever seen here on Slashdot. And, of course, you got modded funny.

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    2. Re:For most problems... by east+coast · · Score: 4, Funny

      I actually use that line at work, well kinda. I use: hitting the machine won't make it work better but hitting people makes them work better.

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    3. Re:For most problems... by QuantumFTL · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That has to be about the most insightful thing I've ever seen here on Slashdot. And, of course, you got modded funny.

      Actually, to be honest, I find that creating an incentive for the user to understand the technology is a much better long run solution. The average person nowadays can accomplish an awful lot with a very basic, approximate functional understanding of the system. Unless there is some reason that they need to learn the details, they will likely never do so.

      The truth is that this does not merely apply to "lusers," but to many of the most brilliant programmers you'll find. How many programmers know the deep details about the electronics that make up the processor? Or about the connection between doping, band-gap effects, and statistical mechanics that regulate the real-world execution of logical operations? I have dual degrees in Physics and CS, yet I would not include myself in that category.

      I think what we need is users that aren't necessarily "theoretically" educated (this can, in practice, be quite useless), but rather have the appropriate metaphors (pipes, not tubes) to understand the majority of what to do in a given situation. Know what different symbols and actions connote, and where to find help (besides just asking the "computer guy").

    4. Re:For most problems... by Duhavid · · Score: 4, Funny

      This is your boss.

      I quite agree.

      See you Monday. Bright and early!

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    5. Re:For most problems... by east+coast · · Score: 4, Funny

      I know this isn't my boss. Early isn't in his vocabulary.

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    6. Re:For most problems... by Duhavid · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      :-)

      I thought it was worth a shot.

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    7. Re:For most problems... by kfg · · Score: 3, Funny

      I find smacking the user is more effective than smacking the computer.

      Ditto. If only I were a masochist that would work out just fine.

      KFG

    8. Re:For most problems... by innosent · · Score: 4, Interesting

      True, and throwing out equipment fried by lightning doesn't hurt, either. Seriously, what kind of questions are these? Hardware doesn't work? Isolate it and replace it. Other than freezing an old hard drive to free up bearings to get data off before you throw it out, it's not worth the aggravation.

      Of course, as far as real Computer/Equipment Voodoo is concerned, there is always the Heisenbug. Just had a mechanical version of this today, the Bayer tech has spent 3 days on a machine to isolate a pump problem. To see the pumps, you have to open a panel either on the side or the front of the instrument. The past 2 days, he was working on it through the front, and the problem didn't occur. Today, after being called back because it happened again, he opened the side panel to watch it, and accidentally bumped the front panel while he was looking at it. As soon as the front panel closed, the problem occurred. It turns out that a zip-tie that holds some tubing from the pumps together was caught on the front panel, and when the panel door closed, it pulled on the zip-tie, which pulled on and pinched the tubing, causing a pressure sensor to throw a fault.

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    9. Re:For most problems... by drachenstern · · Score: 2, Interesting
      How many programmers know the deep details about the electronics that make up the processor?
      If I could find a way to get you modded up past 5 I so would. This has been my whole philosophy ever since I have tried to educate those around me, and I'm just a grad level student.
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    10. Re:For most problems... by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 3, Funny
      by Duhavid (677874) on Fri Aug 18, '06 05:59 PM (#15938281)
      This is your boss.


      Mr. Duvalid, this is YOUR boss. I see that you posted on Slashdot one minute before you clocked out. Come see me Monday morning, bright and early.
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    11. Re:For most problems... by Duhavid · · Score: 4, Funny

      Deer Boss,

      You forget that I wrote the timeclocking system.

      You better see *your* boss bright and early
      Monday morning. Remember, I read BOFH nearly
      religiously. Dont make this too hard on yourself.

      Duhavid

      PS: What is this "clocking out" thing you talk of?

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    12. Re:For most problems... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The word bright is not in the dictionary of most bosses either.

    13. Re:For most problems... by honkycat · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I know where you're coming from, but I disagree somewhat. I don't think understanding the physics of the semiconductors is terribly important unless you are actively working on engineering better chips. It's intellectually interesting (to some), but it's really of very little value when it comes time to program.

      Even understanding the architecture of your processor is only of value to some programmers. For most, it's better to understand the programming model for the particular language being used and tailor your program to that abstraction. Trying to apply knowledge of the low-level architecture in high-level programming is a recipe for over-optimization, especially if that code ever gets ported to another architecture.

      Now, in the latter case, I will grant that it's indispensible to have learned the details at least one computation architecture through and through at some point. It almost doesn't matter what it is, since it's the process of stepping back and thinking about how to construct machines that compute that is the enlightening bit. It's really astonishing how "dumb" the logic behind a really "smart" processor can be. However, day-to-day, it's very rare to actually need to apply details for the specific machine you're using.

      If you're writing DSP code or other real-time embedded stuff, this is obviously different, but that's a very small subset of all programmers.

    14. Re:For most problems... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Agreed. Silicon has as little to do with computing as gasoline does with cars - it is a means to an end. (Plus, everyone loves a car analogy.) It may be important for understanding certain things about a computer, but very little of it will touch what the user sees.

    15. Re:For most problems... by NivenHuH · · Score: 1

      I agree with you, however, sometimes the server really is at fault for no apparent reason... That's why I smack the user first, and when that doesn't work, I walk down to the server room and smack the server that's acting up. Whenever the server is acting up, I typically find the 'voodoo chicken' to be at fault. Smacking the server seems to break the curse 99% of the time...

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    16. Re:For most problems... by QuantumFTL · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I know where you're coming from, but I disagree somewhat. I don't think understanding the physics of the semiconductors is terribly important unless you are actively working on engineering better chips. It's intellectually interesting (to some), but it's really of very little value when it comes time to program.

      It's not useful for programming, but that's not what this article (or my post) is about - it's about using and fixing computers. All the software knowledge in the world doesn't help you when it's really a hardware problem. There are computer problems that an electrical engineer (and occasionally even a mechanical engineer, or materials scientist) could solve, that a computer scientist cannot fix any better than the average person.

      Knowing how the physical device works also helps one to avoid damage to a computer because then one can predict what types of things are bad for the computer, and how to see early warning signs of hardware failure. Some individuals do not know, for instance, that lithium ion batteries are sensitive to extreme cold, and temperature swings. Those people might put a spare in their luggage on a long flight, and find a nasty surprise in their suitcases.

    17. Re:For most problems... by stfvon007 · · Score: 1

      I have a computer wich will not boot up, unless I eather connect a new powered periphial, or disconnect a currect one (latly ive been unplugging/plugging in the floppy drive every other boot). If I dont it powers up for about half a second, then crashes. Besides this problem it has run for 2 years without a problem. (got it cheap but no warrenty and made it a linux box only time its powered off is when ive had to move or theres been a power outage of more than 20 minutes)

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    18. Re:For most problems... by QuantumFTL · · Score: 1

      Wow, a response from the illustrius KFG! I've been reading many of your posts for the last few years, and often wonder who you are IRL. How do you find time to post so often?

    19. Re:For most problems... by QuantumFTL · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      I have a computer wich will not boot up, unless I eather connect a new powered periphial, or disconnect a currect one (latly ive been unplugging/plugging in the floppy drive every other boot). If I dont it powers up for about half a second, then crashes. Besides this problem it has run for 2 years without a problem. (got it cheap but no warrenty and made it a linux box only time its powered off is when ive had to move or theres been a power outage of more than 20 minutes)

      Apparently your spellcheck program is also broken.

      *ducks*

    20. Re:For most problems... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How many programmers know the deep details about the electronics that make up the processor?

      Me!

      Or about the connection between doping, band-gap effects,

      Me!

      and statistical mechanics that regulate the real-world execution of logical operations?

      Me!

      Yay! Do I win a prize now, or do I just get a big L stamped on my forehead?

    21. Re:For most problems... by kfg · · Score: 1

      . . .often wonder who you are IRL. . .

      KFG :) Or, "Just another schmuck with an internet account."

      How do you find time to post so often?

      Self unemployment and 48 hour days. I also read and post, really, really fast. Although I do "dissappear" now and again for anywhere from a couple weeks to a couple months. I'm afraid I go out in the big, blue room now and again. If it weren't for that big ball of fire in the sky it would be, well, dark and cold actually.

      Nevermind.

      KFG

    22. Re:For most problems... by lullabud · · Score: 1

      PS: What is this "clocking out" thing you talk of?

      I think that's the part about smacking the user.

    23. Re:For most problems... by stfvon007 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Apparently you didn't read my post's manual. (Also known as my signature)

      All misspellings and grammatical errors in the above post are intentional and part of my artistic expression.

      Not reading manuals is a pebkac error. To fix this problem I recommend replacing the user.

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    24. Re:For most problems... by drsquare · · Score: 1

      I find that in most cases it's more appropriate to smack the programmer.

    25. Re:For most problems... by Malevolyn · · Score: 1

      That has to be about the dumbest thing I've ever seen here on Slashdot. And, of course, you got modded insightful.

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    26. Re:For most problems... by Malevolyn · · Score: 1

      So YOU'RE the HR guy that EA hired...

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    27. Re:For most problems... by crull · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I know plenty of users who refuse to learn anything. They just stop me when I'm trying to tell them something useful.

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    28. Re:For most problems... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      >I find that creating an incentive for the user to understand the technology is a much better long run solution.

      Smacking them is an excellent incentive.

    29. Re:For most problems... by mcrbids · · Score: 1

      Other than freezing an old hard drive to free up bearings to get data off before you throw it out, it's not worth the aggravation.

      Wow. When I had to deal with stiction, I did something very different!

      1) Unmount the drive.
      2) Plug in the drive with power/signal so it's plugged in but not mounted anymore.
      3) Turn on the power to the computer.
      4) Immediately after power on, twist the drive in a planar spin (like it was a pizza crust you were spinning) so that it frees up and starts spinning.
      5) You can tell when the drive is spinning up, because the gyroscopic effect starts to kick in.

      So much faster, and has worked for me many times.

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    30. Re:For most problems... by MECC · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's not useful for programming, but that's not what this article (or my post) is about - it's about using and fixing computers.

      That's where spending time fixing all kinds of eletronics (stereos, TVs, VCRs, cassette tape recorders, 8 track players, reel-to-reel tape recorders, fish locators, film projectors, overhead projectors, computers, packet assembler/disassemblers, etc) grants a kind of insight that theoretical background might not give you.

      Oddly, sometimes it seems that its not saying the exact right words, but what you have under your belt that makes a difference to hapless users. Also, if you can somehow make a story out of what you are explaining, sometimes even intractable users will listen and kind of understand.

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    31. Re:For most problems... by pimpimpim · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Indeed! But the problem is how to learn someone this 'approximate knowledge'. I have the impression that this is mostly a matter of personality. Many people stop after the first try, then give up. Other people will turn the malfunctioning device off and on again (this works for a lot of things!). Other will go even further, try to find extra options, then there are the people that takes something apart and put it back together again as it was, and in the end there are the people that start testing currents and whatever, but here we are already way into nerd-world :)

      What actually has to be learned is that people get to be a bit of a nerd. Just try other things than the standard ones. Actually this line of thinking will be beneficial in all parts of life.

      I'm also in favor of having things that are easy to use in the first place, but as even those will malfunction at some point (programmers/engineers are also people, luckily), it will still be necessary to be a bit of a geek.

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    32. Re:For most problems... by displaced80 · · Score: 1

      I often don't even have to smack the user.

      I practice something called Cardboard Cut-out User Support. It goes something like this:

      - I receive phone call: "Help! The management system's crashing when I run the Audit Report!"
      - I wander downstairs and stand behind the user: "OK.. show me what you just did."
      - User repeats process. This time, inexplicably, it works fine.
      - User: "Oh. Thanks!"
      - Me: "Good stuff."

      Why "Cardboard Cut-out Support"? Because all the user really needed was a life-size cardboard version of me perched behind them to make their software behave. Why does it work? Is it because of an aura or something? Who knows...

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    33. Re:For most problems... by vikingpower · · Score: 2, Funny

      True. I used to own a ( nice ) car, a Saab. It ran fine, except for some squeaking noise under the plastic cover surrounding the gear stick, close to the handbrake. I found out that hitting it hard, with my full fist, once every 15 minutes would make the noise go away, so smacking that part of my car got hard-wired into my right hand. Then, one day while I was driving on a holiday through Greece, I picked up two *definitely* nice Canadian girls, who were hitchhiking their way through Europe. After 15 minutes or so, I smacked the car as usual, really hard. 15 mins later, again. The girls got silent, and while we stopped by the side of the road for a cup of coffee, I unwillingly overheard them talking to eachother, that I must be a violent guy, maybe even dangerous. One of them came up to me and, nervously, told me that they'd rather go on by themselves.

      I should have hit myself that day, not the car.

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    34. Re:For most problems... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, to be honest, I find that creating an incentive for the user to understand the technology is a much better long run solution.

      Not wanting to get smacked by tech support again is a pretty good incentive

    35. Re:For most problems... by smittyoneeach · · Score: 1

      The boss, or the remark? A wee dram, or something higher caliber? Ambiguity, or something more vague?

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    36. Re:For most problems... by jimicus · · Score: 1

      Hardware doesn't work? Isolate it and replace it. Other than freezing an old hard drive to free up bearings to get data off before you throw it out, it's not worth the aggravation.

      You've not dealt with much real-world hardware, have you?

      True story: recent problem I had with a SCSI tape drive. For no apparent reason, it had stopped working. The possible culprits were:

      - SCSI board
            - Tried it on a different computer with a different SCSI board, it worked fine. Tried changing the SCSI board on the server it was meant to be plugged into, it didn't help at all.
      - Tape drive itself
          - Had it replaced under warranty, the replacement had the exact same problems.
      - SCSI cable
          - Replaced, yet the problem persisted.
      - Motherboard
          - Rebooted the server into Knoppix, it worked fine.
      - Software
          - No recent changes, it had been running the same linux kernel without a reboot for weeks with no trouble and the tape archive software was GNU tar.

      Put a newer version of the Linux kernel on the server, and abracadabra it works fine - even though it had until recently been running quite happily with no changes to the kernel.

    37. Re:For most problems... by mrfuzzy50 · · Score: 1

      Oh God, Slashdot.... this topic moved me to set up an account so I could post a reply. I am a female wannabe geekette and I read /. occasionally just for grins. I am completely sure I don't understand a bit of it as I am lacking a comp degree but I swear it is uncanny how I have experienced much of what has been written. I once sold a comp to a lady (it was my first baby) who was moving to another state. It must have had a bad solder on the mobo and if it was moved it would refuse to power on. I showed her where to smack it and when she got it going to never move it. I often wonder if she got it working or if it was only me who could do the smacks... I have no idea why the stuff I do works and I don't care so long as it does. My users hate to hear me explain stuff so I tell them to shut up and don't even try to understand what I am saying and just let it seep into their subconscious (verbal smacking works better than physical and they can still sign their checks to me!). They constantly amaze me with what they are able to do and how little they get into trouble... (which is kinda bad for my wallet). Thanks for a laugh-out-loud enjoyable Sat morning read!

    38. Re:For most problems... by evilviper · · Score: 2, Funny
      Deer Boss,

      I wish my boss was a deer... Just a little peanut butter, and he'd always be happy.
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    39. Re:For most problems... by Jchord · · Score: 0

      I don't see how people find this funny. it is sadly true. When i hear the crys of the end users (fix it! fix it!) I have to take pain medicine for my fist.

    40. Re:For most problems... by dacap · · Score: 1

      You've not dealt with much real-world hardware, have you?

      Not dealt with hardware much? I'll bet he has! Heh. He has an adequate budget, unlike you. In fact, I'd hazard a guess he works for the government!

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    41. Re:For most problems... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some say, he can melt concrete on contact. Some say, his breath smells of magnesium. All we know is, he's called kfg.

    42. Re:For most problems... by zoydoid · · Score: 1, Funny

      Q: How are a Hollerith card and a programmer similar?
      A: With both you have to punch the information in!

    43. Re:For most problems... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Really? I find that smacking the developer more effective that smacking either the hardware or the user. If they'd done a decent job of creating the software the user wouldn't have such a problem in most instances, and the number of actual hardware failures I've seen is dwarfed by the number of software failures.

    44. Re:For most problems... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I seriously doubt that you normally refer to him using the word "bright" either...

    45. Re:For most problems... by morcego · · Score: 1
      For most problems, I find smacking the user is more effective than smacking the computer.

      Actually, to be honest, I find that creating an incentive for the user to understand the technology is a much better long run solution.


      I find that "not being smacked" works as a great incentive for some classes of users.
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    46. Re:For most problems... by Tamerlan · · Score: 1

      No I do not think so.

      Fortunately for me I do not have any stories to tell about myself. I usually know what is going on or find out pretty soon. However I have two stories to tell. In both of them behaviour of electronic equipment was really bizzare, but it would be hard to blame useres for ignorance.

      Two of my friends, let's call them Bob and Carol, shared the same Unix account. One day Bob put "mouse avoidance" into .emacs configuration file. For those of you who do not know what that is, it is an Emacs setting that moves mouse cursor if it gets in a way of a text cursor, so that you always have a clear typing view.

      Now Carol types something in Emacs and to her surprise, mouse cursor moves from time to time all by itself. First thought was natural: "Oh I must have been touched the mouse by an elbow or shaked the table". But it happened again and again. She cleaned the mouse (it had a ball). Still moves. She even put the mouse upside down on the other end of the table. And cursor still performed its spooky movements.

      Another story is not about computer but about photocopier. In one office photocopier started to behave very strangely. In the morinng, when it is turned on, it worked fine for approximately 15 minutes and then started to spit out just blank sheets. If one turned off a copier and waited for 20 mins or so and then turned it on again, it would work for another 15 minutes and then story repeated. Interestingly enough, if you smack photocopier, it immediately started to work. For another 15 minutes that is, and then it would print blank sheets again.

      IT person was driven crazy. Photocopier person disassembled a copier and checked it - everything worked fine in his presence. But one day, one of the bad copies was not just a blank sheet, but some really creepy picture.

      After that all became obvious. There was a cockroach that liked to sit on a warm lens. Turning copier off did not make lens interesting anymore so cockroach retreated. Smacking the copier did the trick too. Application of insecticides solved the problem.

    47. Re:For most problems... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A-men. Some people are too f***ing stupid to use technology. As for Windows, it's specially designed for making the computer as accessible as possible to practically every one (particularly Microsoft and virus writers) but the person who purchased it, and quite often it's just as well.

    48. Re:For most problems... by EvilSporkMan · · Score: 1

      Don't you mean "sadist"? A sadist likes to inflict pain; a masochist likes to receive it.

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    49. Re:For most problems... by damium · · Score: 1

      Speaking of smacking the computer...

      We had a lab full of PCs that would lockup if jolted the wrong way while upright. To get them to unlock they would have to be powered down and dropped on their side from about 8 inches up. It turned out that the motherboards had bad memory slots and the memory contacts would loose connection. I eventually tried several techniques to keep the memory in place (solder, silicone, hot glue). One of the best methods was to use solder to tin the contacts on one side of the memory, took me about an hour per DIMM to perform the procedure so I never got around to more than just the worst computers in the bunch.

    50. Re:For most problems... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, the standard rtfm response. But who has time to read manuals - most of which are poorly written anyways. Computing should be made more intuitive and translucency in design would be more helpful than writing dense manuals.

    51. Re:For most problems... by nerdhat · · Score: 1

      "Most computer problems are caused by a loose nut somewhere between the chair and the keyboard"

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    52. Re:For most problems... by rgravina · · Score: 1

      Then read the docstring, read the comments, read the tutorial.... usually the rtfm response is to someone who hasn't put a scrap of effort to help themselves, and would rather ask someone else to spend their time doing it for them.

    53. Re:For most problems... by euice · · Score: 2, Insightful

      How many programmers know the deep details about the electronics that make up the processor? [...] I have dual degrees in Physics and CS, yet I would not include myself in that category.
      All people who include themselves in that category just don't understand what amount of knowledge is necessary to make even simple devices functional nowadays (that doesn't only apply to electronics or software).
      I guess there is only a handful of people who are born with the humbleness to respect the value the research of other peoples, most of them (including me) have to learn a lot to finally understand that it is impossible to know and understand everything about one particular subject.
      But hey, young people are constantly changing the world with new ideas just because they refuse to see the difficulties with the implementation!

    54. Re:For most problems... by slaad · · Score: 1

      And that's an excellent example of why you should always cut the tails off of zip ties.

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    55. Re:For most problems... by _argonauta · · Score: 1

      Understanding the intrinsic physical logics of a system could help in some cases, but is it really necessary? Most of us don't know exactly what electricity is and how it works in the subatomic level, let alone electromagnetic fields, yet we use it in everyday life, when turning the lights on, plugging a tv... (I'm not a physicist, I'm just trying to explain a point I think is interesting)

    56. Re:For most problems... by causality · · Score: 1

      The solution to that is to never fix their problems for free.

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    57. Re:For most problems... by jimicus · · Score: 1

      All the budget in the world wouldn't have helped here, unless I'd decided to use "tape drive not working" as an excuse to competely replace my entire backup system from end to end.

    58. Re:For most problems... by innosent · · Score: 1

      No, actually it's a private lab, with a very limited budget, but buying quality components is often much cheaper than buying the cheapest parts available. Replacing a failed part costs the part plus tech time ($12-$17/hr), so for a 10 minute replacement, about $2-$3 plus the part, assuming someone more expensive doesn't have to get involved (like a tech asking me to look at it). Diagnosing a strange error could take a few hours of trial and error, and you might still have to replace the part. Considering that the most expensive component in any of my desktops is about $50, and that whatever voodoo you do will then make that desktop *special* compared to the other hundred that you have, it's not worth it. Now, the GP post is not a hardware issue, it's probably a driver issue, and regardless of whether he thinks any changes were made, I'm willing to bet that something was different with the configuration between working and not working. (Like he forgot the "SCSI Tape" driver, or the SCSI driver itself. These are both trivial, but since he didn't really isolate and fix the problem, but just replaced the kernel (with the correct drivers compiled), he'll never know. This is not what I was saying, I said replace the part that is the problem, meaning that you have to know what the problem is first, and which part causes it. In his case, I would check the SCSI adapter BIOS util to see if it sees the drive, then check in Linux to see if the adapter driver is loaded (and what devices it sees), then check for the SCSI Tape driver. The whole idea is to actually understand what you are doing, not just try stuff until it just happens to work.

      By the same token, I don't want to manage 100 *special* computers, I want machines that work, and that can be reimaged from the standard image in 15 mins and work. If the hardware works, and you maintain updates on the standard image, any software problem can be fixed in 5 minutes or less (depending on how deeply they've buried the computer under their desk) with a hard drive and a screwdriver, meaning that my tech can handle far more computers in far more locations than if he spent 2-3 hours on each problem.

      To make it a little more clear, I had a group of computers I bought from a vendor, where the power supplies would not work in our building, but would work in other buildings. We isolated it down to the power supplies, and had a few possibilities as to why it didn't work, but couldn't change our power feed or the amount of interference from the radio station next door. This was an easy problem to solve. Call the vendor, say "These cheap power supplies don't work, send me brand Y instead of these brand X", send back the power supplies, get the others, and done. For the next 3 orders, we didn't have a problem, since we got the parts that cost $1 more, but worked everywhere.

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    59. Re:For most problems... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      For most problems, I find smacking the user is more effective than smacking the computer.

      Heh, one of my favorite sayings at work is "The problem exists between the chair and keyboard." I'm not sure where I heard it.

      As far as computer voodoo goes, how about loading Windows NT video drivers. They would load but not be recognised. After re-loading the driver five or six times, it finially "stick"s.

    60. Re:For most problems... by QuantumFTL · · Score: 1

      I was just trying for a quick funny mod.... alas...

    61. Re:For most problems... by Eternauta3k · · Score: 1

      If you want to repair a TV, VCR, power supply, etc. you either: 1.buy a book on TV, VCR, power supply, etc. repair or 2.use your general electronics knowledge but the topics you mentioned don't seem to help neither for programming nor for repair.

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      Yeah. Would you choose a neurosurgeon who pokes around people's brains in his spare time? I wouldn't.
    62. Re:For most problems... by Wiseleo · · Score: 1

      Doesn't work, but my banker is fine with that.

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      Find me on Quora :)
    63. Re:For most problems... by QuantumFTL · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure why, but I've been active on slashdot for 7 years and your nick, CleverNickName, and Black Parrot are the only ones I really ever recognize... Glad to hear self employment is working for you, it's looking like that's what I'll be doing with contracting/consulting etc... we'll see how that goes!

    64. Re:For most problems... by kfg · · Score: 1

      Glad to hear self employment is working for you. . .

      It's a starving. I have always relied on the kindness of strangers.

      That accounts for most of my scars, now that I think of it.

      KFG

    65. Re:For most problems... by Chandon+Seldon · · Score: 1

      Absolutely. Ignorance is a priviledge that they should pay dearly for if they desire it.

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    66. Re:For most problems... by honkycat · · Score: 1

      Ok, sorry, misunderstood the point of your post.

    67. Re:For most problems... by QuantumFTL · · Score: 1

      I've posted some pretty dumb comments, but if you think that was the "dumbest thing ever" on slashdot, you haven't been reading hard enough :)

    68. Re:For most problems... by EndlessNameless · · Score: 1

      Intuitive and translucent are relative. As long as you're trying to cater to everyone, it's impossible to make anything completely intuitive and translucent. And since the largest target market is "everyone", you're not likely to see intuitive interfaces on most modern software packages and electronic devices.

      This explanation is very simple and yet widely overlooked in the pursuit of the ideal user interface. The ideal user interface will, by necessity, be ideal exclusively to those users who were its target market.

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    69. Re:For most problems... by tuvok302 · · Score: 1

      For most problems..... I find that merely having the computer in my house fixes it(no lie). For those of you familiar with Jedi Knight 2: Dark forces, me and my friend were playing the single player campaign and we got to the spot where you had to switch disks, well me, being lazy, merely hit cancelled -Lo and behold the level loaded, and we beat the game using disk 1...... we even checked that disk 2 was not in the computer. So after we beat the game we switch disks and try playing it again, disk 2 doesn't work at all on the computer. So no clue. However true computer vodoo comes when you have a LAN party and everyone plays, even though your short a cable...... *chuckles evilly*

    70. Re:For most problems... by bensch128 · · Score: 1

      I have to disagree for a limited sense.
      At the company I work at, we're having to rely on custom hardware which means that we need to do all of the QA on the hardware itself.

      Since the hardware seems to be pretty broken in some places (communicating with the framebuffer...), understanding why and how seems to be pretty important.

      Of course, this is custom embedded stuff so it doesn't apply to 98% of programmers out there...

      JM2C (Just my 2 cents)
      Ben

    71. Re:For most problems... by honkycat · · Score: 1

      Of course -- writing embedded software/firmware is often closer to hardware than software development. Still, you wouldn't normally worry much about architecture details of, say, the off-the-shelf microcontroller that you're using to talk to the framebuffer, unless you were really concerned about running it at 100% efficiency.

    72. Re:For most problems... by zobier · · Score: 1

      But we're talking about users fixing problems that users are experiencing. Therefore smacking the user in this case means the user smacking themselves.

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    73. Re:For most problems... by jimicus · · Score: 1

      I checked the silly stuff like "is the driver compiled in". Seeing as the box hadn't ever been rebooted (and /usr/bin/uptime confirmed this) in between it going from working to non-working, this kind of ruled out the kernel losing the driver.

      The card could see the tape drive, in fact IIRC so could the kernel. It just wouldn't write to it.

      The replacement kernel was configured with the same configuration options as the previous one - "make oldconfig" is your friend.

    74. Re:For most problems... by Geoff-with-a-G · · Score: 1

      Trying to apply knowledge of the low-level architecture in high-level programming is a recipe for over-optimization, especially if that code ever gets ported to another architecture.

      I realize you didn't make the term up, and I realize it's a problematic reality of programming, but I flinch a little whenever I see the term "over-optimization". It's an oxymoron. By definition, something cannot be over-optimized. If something isn't optimal, then it would benefit from more optimization. If it is optimal already, then no more optimizing can possibly be done.

    75. Re:For most problems... by Monkelectric · · Score: 1
      Id like to second your "I agree somewhat." I started programming in the era of the Vic 20. Back then, it *WAS POSSIBLE* to know just about everything about computers and programming.

      Things are so complex now there are thousands of topics, of which a few you can master if you work very hard. Its not possible to be an expert anymore.

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      Religion is a gateway psychosis. -- Dave Foley

    76. Re:For most problems... by honkycat · · Score: 1

      I dunno, I don't think it's so bad. First of all, we don't really mean by "optimize" what you suggest. Rather, it now refers to a particular type of enhancement made to improve a piece of code in some way. Second, even this isn't so much at odds with the original meaning. If you distinguish between the global absolute "optimal" and local measures of optimality in a specific way (code size, data size, number of floating point operations, complexity, etc), it's easy to see that optimizing one axis disproportionately compared to others is possible. Since it's so rare to have a problem where "optimal" in the global sense can even be found, I don't think it's much of a stretch to use the word in a more useful way, even if it's a slight change from the original meaning.

      Also, akin to my example of porting code, to a new architecture, changing the environment can change what is truly optimal. It's not hard to imagine taking a piece of code and truly, globally, perfectly optimizing it for a specific application on a processor. Then, someone gets the bright idea to reuse it for a slightly different application on a different processor. Odds are that a lot of those optimizations are going to be a handicap in the new circumstance. Sure, it was optimal to begin with, but it may have been less flexible. Unless we really NEEDED that last bit of performance/whatever in the original application, we've over-optimized and shot ourselves in the proverbial foot.

      Now, you may say that this can't happen because clearly we didn't use the right meaning of optimality. Had we included the flexibility to port it around as part of the original definition of optimal, we'd not have run into this problem. It doesn't take much to see that this is not a helpful way to think about optimization, though. Nothing can be absolutely perfect because you don't know what problems the future will throw at you. Pursuit of anything more than "good enough" is often a mistake and can be considered over-optimization. To put it in a sound bite, "Optimal isn't."

    77. Re:For most problems... by honkycat · · Score: 1

      Yep... that was the golden age for a lot of reasons. I still like writing software for embedded systems, not least because the microcontrollers you get to use are often at about the same complexity as a computer from the early 80s. Sure, they're faster and have more RAM, but you generally don't have complex memory controllers and other peripherals that get in the way. Plus, you can buy a PIC or other similar little jellybean micro for about a dollar and slap it on a $33 custom PCB (if you're a student you can buy just one and get a free pizza, otherwise you have to buy three and no pizza, but you still get the standard bag of microwave popcorn). If you can fit it on a two-layer board, for about $50 total you can put together your own custom embedded device and understand exactly what's going on.

    78. Re:For most problems... by hesiod · · Score: 1

      > The ideal user interface will, by necessity, be ideal exclusively to those users who were its target market.

      Not necessarily... If the interface is completely user-customizeable, and extremely easy to customize, then it should work for everyone. The problem then is that the customization interface has to be intuitive, so you just make the customization interface easily configurable. Hopefully the customization customization interface is intuitive, or we will have problems.

    79. Re:For most problems... by hesiod · · Score: 1

      > First of all, we don't really mean by "optimize" what you suggest

      Either you meant what he thought you meant, or you used the wrong word (by definition, at least). Optimize: "to make as perfect, effective, or functional as possible." It's automatically taken to the extreme; there are no levels of optimization. Something is either optimized or it is not. Just because many (presumably, very smart) people use the word incorrectly, it doesn't make you correct.

      Note: this isn't meant as an insult in any way, but as an observation and definition clarification

    80. Re:For most problems... by C0rinthian · · Score: 1

      I had Striction once. Then I drank a big glass of warm, salty water...

    81. Re:For most problems... by honkycat · · Score: 1

      Just because the dictionary says something doesn't make it correct either. :-)

      As I'm sure you know, words often have multiple definitions. Technical terms in particular are not well represented in dictionaries, so be careful when you try to apply what Webster's (or even the venerable OED) tells you is the meaning of a word being used by an engineer. For the standard English "optimize," you're absolutely correct. When a programmer "optimizes," however, he's making an enhancement that improves some aspect of the code other than its functional correctness. Usually, he's trying to speed it up or make it use less memory. Even if he stops short of the mathematically provable optimum, he has still done some optimization.

      Even if you don't buy my argument that there's more than one word spelled "optimize," by the definition you cite, there are degrees of optimization. The very meaning of "as perfect [...] as possible" assumes some particular purpose for which the optimized construct is perfect. Thus, you can have a piece of code that is optimized for speed but lousy for code size, etc. It comes down to context.

  2. one time at computer camp... by drfrog · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...i had to code a html page without dreamweaver

    now thats voodoo

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    back in the day we didnt have no old school
    1. Re:one time at computer camp... by Telvin_3d · · Score: 5, Funny

      I had to code a standards compliant page with Dreamweaver ... now THAT'S voodoo

    2. Re:one time at computer camp... by iced_773 · · Score: 1

      You mean you don't NORMALLY code web pages by hand?!

      And you hang out here at News for Nerds???

    3. Re:one time at computer camp... by RalphSleigh · · Score: 1

      I once debugged a I.E for Mac display bug over the phone, you know, change code, upload, ask guy over the phone to look at it on his crappy old mac, repeat for 1 hour. The end result was telling him to accelerate said mac out of a window, but it worked.

      Getting computers to appear on a windows network, now that was pure voodoo in the 95/98 era.

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    4. Re:one time at computer camp... by drfrog · · Score: 5, Funny

      real nerds dont code html by hand, they write a script to code the html for them

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      back in the day we didnt have no old school
    5. Re:one time at computer camp... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And people wonder how the blink tag was invented.

    6. Re:one time at computer camp... by chris_eineke · · Score: 1

      Modded funny? Paul Graham did just that with his Viaweb page editor and he made money while doing it.

      Coincidence? I think not.

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      "All you have to do is be fragile and grateful. So stay the underdog." Chuck Palahniuk, Choke
    7. Re:one time at computer camp... by Roduku · · Score: 1

      I've resurrected dead computers and been accused of voodoo

    8. Re:one time at computer camp... by Crystalmonkey · · Score: 1

      Why was this modded informative?

    9. Re:one time at computer camp... by Josuah · · Score: 1

      I heard a story about someone actually doing that. Maybe it was in the scrum design book, or an anecdote from my current manager. Don't remember from where. But then later no one could figure out how to maintain the code, because you'd have to maintain code that makes the other code. I suppose it would be a lot like maintaining a version of yacc that was customized to produce a specific program.

    10. Re:one time at computer camp... by ubermichael · · Score: 2, Insightful

      My favourite (and only) dreamweaver vodoo: @@(' ')@@ is the magical incantation to lock an editable region in a nested template. And it isn't documented (correctly) anywhere in any Macromedia publication that I could find.

      Really. It actually is.

    11. Re:one time at computer camp... by drfrog · · Score: 1

      maybe i shoulda said

      real men dont eat quiche

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      back in the day we didnt have no old school
    12. Re:one time at computer camp... by ThePengwin · · Score: 1

      Why not write a script to write a script that controls html code?

    13. Re:one time at computer camp... by adamc00 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Really? I stuck a | in my cat!

    14. Re:one time at computer camp... by ajs318 · · Score: 1

      No, in Windows 95/98 you had to (1) turn off Browse Manager on all but one of the computers and (2) reboot twice after making any changes to the network. Sometimes you could make a computer appear by typing the full path to one of its shared resources ..... assuming you already knew the correct path, of course.

      Most troubleshooting on Windows boils down to voodoo, really; because, since you have absolutely no idea what the hell is going on, it's the best you can hope for!

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    15. Re:one time at computer camp... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Isn't that what they call WYSIWYG?

    16. Re:one time at computer camp... by goltrpoat · · Score: 1

      This is quite common. FFTW (Fastest Fourier Transform in the West) has large amounts of C code that are dumped out by an ML program. Closer to the original example, it's not uncommon to write tools that serialize stuff to XML (because, say, the types we care about already serialize to and from XML), and then use XSLT to go to HTML and publish the results on a local website. Most UI designer tools (.Net Forms editor in Visual Studio, various wxWidgets designer tools, etc) dump out source from a visual definition of the UI. Etc. -goltrpoat

    17. Re:one time at computer camp... by ppc_digger · · Score: 1

      real nerds dont code html by hand, they write a script to code the html for them

      Yes, it's called PHP.

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    18. Re:one time at computer camp... by gg3po · · Score: 1
      real nerds dont code html by hand, they write a script to code the html for them

      *REAL* nerds code their own C compiler in assembly, with which they compile their own operating system, on which they code and compile their own scripting language, with which they write a script to code html for them.

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    19. Re:one time at computer camp... by HeroreV · · Score: 1

      Real nerds never compile anything. Assembly all the way.

    20. Re:one time at computer camp... by jb.hl.com · · Score: 1

      Nonono, real nerds use a hex editor, which they etched onto a CD themselves using nothing but a handheld Class 1 laser, to code their software.

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  3. xset r on by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh, how I hate the command 'xset r on', I have to type this 3 or 4 times per xsession to keep my key repeat on. It likes to turn off when I toggle numlock, caps lock, etc.

    This is ever since I played around with 'xset r off' ... be warned!

  4. I've got the touch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    When somebody has a problem that they want me to fix, my mere presence and their attempt to repeat the problem makes it go away.

    1. Re:I've got the touch by Fortran+IV · · Score: 2, Funny

      When somebody has a problem that they want me to fix, my mere presence and their attempt to repeat the problem makes it go away.

      My boss has exactly the opposite talent. If something is working perfectly and has been running properly for days, weeks, or even months, it will go haywire thirty seconds after he walks up to look over your shoulder.

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    2. Re:I've got the touch by JorDan+Clock · · Score: 1

      I have the same effect for my friend's computer. Anytime he goes to show me a problem, it magically stops. Eerie...

    3. Re:I've got the touch by themonkman · · Score: 1

      This is beyond truth; it's surrealism. What is the most entertaining is when I'm standing there, watching them trying to reproduce the problem, and they actually get angry that the problem is gone. It makes no sense. They are upset that their computer is not working, but become even more upset when it suddenly works again.

    4. Re:I've got the touch by Kreigaffe · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I've been on the broken end of that before. Very frustrating when your power supply won't even start running unless one specific person is standing next to it.

      Yes, that happened. I also had the strangest, most bizzarre HARDWARE glitch with my MONITOR -- it was almost as if I had an LCD with dead pixels.. but I've a CRT. And they were about 1x1mm blocks all set together in neat tetris-esque patterns. Lasted about a week.

      I blamed Mexico -- that's where it was made. The poor spirit of some mexican child who died making it, I think.

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      ... still waiting for this free-as-in-beer free beer I keep hearing about. :|
    5. Re:I've got the touch by moranar · · Score: 1

      They are upset that their computer is not working, but become even more upset when it suddenly works again.

      That's because 99% of the time, the problem comes back as soon as the expert leaves. I've experienced it too.

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    6. Re:I've got the touch by pla · · Score: 1

      When somebody has a problem that they want me to fix, my mere presence and their attempt to repeat the problem makes it go away.

      This should have an "insightful" mod, not "funny"... The same thing happens to me constantly!

      Personally, I suspect people with problems in this category have done something they knew they shouldn't, and as they step me through how they caused the original problem, they "censor" the known-bad steps out.

      Or, perhaps the electron-faeries have just grown scared enough of me over the years that they don't dare get uppity in my !vo237g@#$(O
      *G5*2_%nvv~j1124^^^ws _afsd23
      NO CARRIER

    7. Re:I've got the touch by LinuxDon · · Score: 1

      Have you tried hitting it with 1.5 second intervals for 15 seconds?
      That usually fixes the problem.

    8. Re:I've got the touch by Feanturi · · Score: 1

      My weirdest "touch" story happened with a friend's computer. They had been having problems for about 6 months but hadn't bugged me about it because they know I have to deal with computers all day, and when I visit them, it's time to drink, not time to fix their computer. So they had let it go, and over time there was a progression of the problem. It started, oddly enough, when one of their relatives had been visiting, and updated their IE for them and added a couple of programs. Programs would start crashing out of the blue, and because of the timing they'd assumed the software updates had something to do with it. Then things started to happen, like the caps lock key would suddenly get stuck in caps mode, and the only way they could get it back was to reboot the computer. Then it progressed to the keyboard suddenly locking up altogether (mouse still worked, OS still responding), accompanied by panicked beeps from the PC internal speaker. Eventually programs were crashing almost constantly, and they started getting those blue screen alerts (Win98) that are often recoverable but in their case no, they'd always have to reboot again. And finally, the computer refused to boot in normal mode anymore, it would only come up in safe mode, they couldn't really do anything anymore so they called me to come check it out.

      So, I went over to visit them, and they had a kid they needed to check on so I was left alone for a few minutes. I wandered into the kitchen where the computer was. They'd explained all the symptoms to me on the phone. I was interested in checking out the keyboard first since one of the final things as it was getting really bad was that the keyboard would stop working almost immediately after booting up. So I turned the computer on and didn't bother trying to boot windows I just went straight to the BIOS so I could play with a few of the keys and toggle caps lock on and off, stuff like that. I didn't change anything at all. Satisfied that the keyboard appeared to be working fine with Windows not running, I exited. When I exited the BIOS, out of habit I chose to SAVE and exit as opposed to just exiting. That's really the only potential change that I made, though I hadn't actually flipped any settings. Windows booted up, in normal mode, just as my friends walked into the room. "What did you do? I haven't seen the wallpaper look nice like that in a month!" exclaimed the main user. I was a bit puzzled because in my mind I hadn't actually done anything yet. I got her to sit down at it and load the various apps she worked with on a daily basis, and write a few emails and forum posts and had her chat programs going and several browsers and an IRC session, etc etc. We couldn't make it crash anymore, it entirely failed to misbehave, and that lasted long afterwards.

      Since I had brought my tool kit with me in case I needed to open the case to re-seat something, I told them that the computer had seen my tools, gotten scared because I obviously meant business, and to avoid surgery decided to just smarten up.

    9. Re:I've got the touch by garry_g · · Score: 1

      Been there, done that ... :) Now, if the problem that _I_ have would disapear once I come to the computer, everything would be fine :)

    10. Re:I've got the touch by alienmole · · Score: 1

      I think your theory is about right, except that I think people often do this unconsciously. When being watched, people are just more conscious of what they're doing, and so their timing is different, the way they press keys is different, and they may avoid shortcuts that they usually take just because they're more focused on what they're doing. With problems that are caused by an oversensitive or otherwise buggy user interface, this can make a difference. When the expert goes away, users revert to their usual mode of operation, and the problem returns.

      I saw one problem which went on for the longest time where in a system with a web interface, one particular user out of a dozen kept creating duplicate copies of the records she was entering. My guess is that she was probably just double-clicking the submit button. But no matter how many times anyone watched her do it, it would never happen. But a few minutes after the observer left, it would happen again.

    11. Re:I've got the touch by internewt · · Score: 1
      Maybe the contents of the CMOS, the BIOS' settings, were a little corrupt. The keyboard is a very basic part of a PC, so caps lock "breaking" kind of fits... Maybe when you saved the BIOS settings it rewrote the data correctly, and from then on Windows didn't crap out because a 0 was a 1 by mistake ;)

      I had a hard drive once that would not work in my PC, but would in others. It just wouldn't spin up. But I found that if I connected the power a second after turning the PC on the disk would power up, and work fine! Must have been the PSU not providing enough juice when everything in the machine started. That PSU did end up burning out, to be honest.

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    12. Re:I've got the touch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That happens to me all the time! LOL!

    13. Re:I've got the touch by ottothecow · · Score: 1
      I had a similar experiance with one of my friends family's cars. It died in front of my house and at the time I assumed dead battery and drover her home. She ended up coming back the next day with her brother while I was at work and taking hte battery home, charging it and bringing it back but it doesnt fix the car.

      I pop the hood the next day and start poking around...open the fusebox and all the fuses look good except one so I pull out the multimeter and check it...fuse is fine (I couldnt remove it since it was a large fuse and was somehow attatched to prevent tampering). I did tap on the starter which can free a stuck starter but it didnt exhibit the symptoms of a dead starter so this is the only thing I might have actually changed although I did this before checking hte fuses and it failed to start after doign so.

      As I run out of quick and dirty soltions, I sit down in the car and try to turn it over...and it starts right up. She wants to know what I did and is afraid to drive it because she doesnt trust it but I maintain that it is mechanically sound. Well, it was mechanically sound until the downpipe went out (car still works fine with a hole in the downpipe, just gets really loud and polluting) and her 16 year old brother thought he could fix it with duct tape and gorrila glue...

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    14. Re:I've got the touch by bhadreshl · · Score: 1

      I know you got modded funny but that exact same thing has happened over a dozen times(no joke). My friends try to show me the problem they were having and me just being there instantly fixed the problem.

    15. Re:I've got the touch by Xtifr · · Score: 1

      > My boss has exactly the opposite talent. If something is working perfectly and has been running properly for days, weeks, or even months, it will go haywire thirty seconds after he walks up to look over your shoulder.

      That can actually be useful! You just have to make sure you include him as a regular part of the testing cycle. Seriously. I've worked with people like that, and, although it can be horrifying at first, once you get used to it, they can be extremely valuable.

      The only problem is people who cause things to go haywire only when you don't want them to, and not when you do. :)

    16. Re:I've got the touch by SheHeItThey · · Score: 1

      For me, it's even developed to the extent that if I'm online or on the phone listening to the user about their problem, it will go away.

    17. Re:I've got the touch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have heard of a company that has a Teddy bear in the office of computer support. Users first have to describe their problems to Teddy and only after that to the tech guy. Majority of the problems are solved by the first one.

    18. Re:I've got the touch by Fortran+IV · · Score: 1

      A tech at my wife's company had trouble finding a mysterious monitor problem. The user (in Sales, naturally) was complaining about color streaks on the screen, but they were never there when the tech showed up.

      Hint: The company makes industrial electric motors.

      The tech stopped by in passing one day, and found the problem. Whenever the user had called for help before, he had helpfully cleared everything away from the monitor before the tech showed up—including the large DC motor (with its large permanent magnets) he kept on his desk.

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    19. Re:I've got the touch by Fortran+IV · · Score: 1

      Actually, the effect you describe is probably a component of the "it breaks when the boss walks up" syndrom I mentioned above. I find it much more difficult to type when someone is standing near me—I get self-conscious and it throws my rhythm off.

      Did you ever create a password you could only type when you weren't thinking about it? Back in the day, I could only type the fortran command at a certain speed. Any faster or slower and it came out frotran or fortrna.

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    20. Re:I've got the touch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd like to point out that CPR is a little more complicated than that. Even in Mexico... wait, I might've mis-understood.

    21. Re:I've got the touch by MLease · · Score: 1

      That's because 99% of the time, the problem comes back as soon as the expert leaves. I've experienced it too.

      It's also because they've lost face in front of the expert. The expert now thinks the user is an idiot and will probably show less patience and willingness to help in the future. Especially after the 2nd or 3rd time this happens.

      -Mike

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  5. hitting it by crazedotaku · · Score: 5, Informative

    Usually whenever it would start going on the fritz a good punch or kick to the tower would get it going again. And also stop that damn whirring noise. It always makes me laugh when I'd see people hitting the monitor. Because THAT is where everything is XD

    1. Re:hitting it by dadragon · · Score: 5, Informative

      Well, I've hit a monitor because that's where the problem was! It had that God-aweful flyback transformer noise. Hitting it ever 15 minutes or so would make it go away for a while. Then it got fuzzy, so I bought an LCD instead of fixing it.

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    2. Re:hitting it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I currently have a s*ny v*io notebook. It started having weird display problems: random jitter, font problems, strange lines everywhere, noise that would dance from left to right while I scrolled a webpage... sometimes it would only affect web browsers (everything else was magically fine). A reboot would sometimes work... but sometimes it wouldn't.

      Tapping the area near the connection from the LCD to the motherboard would sometimes make it worse or better... so I thought, okay, loose wire or board, I'll reseat and replug everything.

      Every time I take the thing apart, the problem is gone while the case is open and the machine is running. I wiggle everything, but cannot get the problem to occur while the case is open.

      I thought it might be bad RAM. Nope, any tests I run work fine... memtest86, kernel compiles, etc. Maybe heat-related? Nope, it happens sometimes when the machine is cold, sometimes when hot... sometimes as the machine heats up, it goes away!

      I still have a warranty on it, so I'm about to send it in to get repaired... I'm crossing my fingers that they can duplicate the problem, because it's not always consistent! (note to anyone who works for s*ny who might read this post: everything posted above about taking the machine apart is fictitious, and any resemblance to computers living or dead is entirely coincidental! Believe me, either you guys or c*mpusa have actually broken pieces and lost screws when you've repaired it before, so if I'm "voiding my warranty" just by opening the case to check things out...)

    3. Re:hitting it by Jett · · Score: 1

      I had one a lot like this except it only happened in one room. We pulled the machine back for testing and could never find a thing wrong with it, we return it to the field and the problem returns randomly. After wasting too much time trying to figure it out I think we just gave up and swapped the damn thing for an identical box.

    4. Re:hitting it by FatAlb3rt · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Nostalgia - blowing on the Nintendo game cartridge.

    5. Re:hitting it by Short+Circuit · · Score: 1

      Don't forget those bad solder connections on the CRT (The tube itself, not the monitor as a whole). When those things get hot enough, the color starts to flicker. A good thwack seems to do the trick.

      Wanna impress an art major? Tell them which color signal went out. Then fix it. "Everything's magenta? Guess Green went out. Watch this. Don't *whack* you *whack* ever *whack* do *whack* that *whack* again *whack*."

      Well, leave out the theatrics if the art major is female...

    6. Re:hitting it by Atzanteol · · Score: 1

      Hah! I remember that. The original NES had issues with their cart loading thingy (push the cart in, push it down). We used to have to push the cart down, then jam a toy airplane in above it, then let the cart up a bit (the plane kept it from going all the way back up). Only then would it work. This worked fine for years, but eventually the machine just stopped working all together...

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    7. Re:hitting it by Alien54 · · Score: 1

      Tapping the area near the connection from the LCD to the motherboard would sometimes make it worse or better... so I thought, okay, loose wire or board, I'll reseat and replug everything.

      Be mindful that the cable from the Motherboard to the LCD display can often go flaky, especially if pinched. get it replaced.

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    8. Re:hitting it by Kuxman · · Score: 1

      As part of my fraternity room, I put in an old school tv/atari. Got to blow those damn things to make 'em work. But, Ahhh, there's more people in my room playing Combat tanks than there are in the room next door with the Xbox 360 AND a Playstation 2.

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    9. Re:hitting it by Btarlinian · · Score: 1

      A real art major would know that magneta isn't used in additive color mixing (aka your monitor.) Rather, it uses Red, Green and Blue. Magenta (along with Cyan and Yellow) are used in printing.

    10. Re:hitting it by SpoonDog_SVT · · Score: 1

      In my previous school's computer lab we had *old* removable drive trays. Every so often, the computer would refuse to recognize an inserted drive on boot. The solution? Take out the drive tray, do the ol' "Nintendo trick," reinsert drive tray and boot successfully! Everyone thought I was crazy, but it worked! ;)

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    11. Re:hitting it by Short+Circuit · · Score: 1

      A real art major also knows the difference between color displays based on adding and subtracting primary colors. The ones who use computers for their projects actually apply these principles.

    12. Re:hitting it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      :P hey, it works when its the picture crapping out!(such as turning all yellow or pink)

    13. Re:hitting it by Brome · · Score: 1

      Well, in my iMac, that IS where everything is.

    14. Re:hitting it by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 3, Funny
      Once in the bad old Pathworks days, I had a user who used to slam the table with his fist because the screen went black, and that's how he got it up again.

      Nobody wanted to tell him that moving the mouse by hand would have the same effect...

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    15. Re:hitting it by robbak · · Score: 1

      A real art major (or knower of basic science, for that matter) would know that magenta is the color you get if you mix red and blue in an additive system, as happens when the green circuits fail on a CRT.

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    16. Re:hitting it by fbjon · · Score: 1

      I've had a PSU make a chirping bird-like noise every time I moved my mouse. On Windows, I had to kill explorer.exe about twice a month because the start menu was completely black and unusable, which I just recently found out is because of Logitech's monstrous webcam drivers (wtf?).

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    17. Re:hitting it by glesga_kiss · · Score: 1
      Nostalgia - blowing on the Nintendo game cartridge.

      My old Genesis did this, and who can remember the old wobbly ram pack?

      I've always wondered if the blowing actually helped and if it wasn't just the remove/reinsert that did it. When I used to work for a computer laptop manufacturer, we found that a large portion of broken units could be fixed via "reseating the cpu". With the number of contacts in these high-density connectors, an odd broken contact is inevitable. The way I see it, any dust that could be removed by blowing would not cause an open circuit. It would be just as easilly pushed out of the way by the contact.

      Corrosion on the other hand is a pain. Clean it up with ethanol (ask your drunkard uncle for some) and it's as good as new.

    18. Re:hitting it by colmore · · Score: 1

      It probably was possible for dust to block a connection, but the real problem there was that the receiving connector was a bit too wide for the cartridge. "Blowing on it" really just amounted to taking it out and trying a new connection.

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    19. Re:hitting it by blippo · · Score: 1

      nooo, a -real- art major thinks in copper salts and shit...

    20. Re:hitting it by frisket · · Score: 1

      I recently discovered that some networked Win PCs in a lab which weren't booting could be fixed by booting them from the Austrumi Linux businesscard-CD, connecting to DHCP, opening a web page, and trying to print it to a locally-networked printer. The printing fails because the print system on the Austrumi CD is a crock, but if I then rebooted into Windows the PCs all started up and connected correctly. Weird.

    21. Re:hitting it by noidentity · · Score: 1

      Obligatory funny reference to getting NES cartridges to work:

      http://www.uncrate.com/men/style/tees-polos/blow-m e-nes-tshirt-002634.php

    22. Re:hitting it by goltrpoat · · Score: 1

      I used to have a monitor where the green CRT kept going out (for some reason it's always the green one, anyone know why?). So at first, a semi-gentle tap to the side would fix it -- that'd happen about once a day for about six months, wasn't a huge deal. At some point, that stopped helping, so I'd have to hit it progressively harder and harder for the next three months. By harder I mean, it went from a tap a day to a smack to a hard smack to a series of very hard smacks a few times a day, to the point where I had to hold the monitor with my left hand so that it wouldn't go flying across the desk. Now, as this progressed, the monitor would get somewhat wobbly for a few seconds after I was done beating the absolute living bejeezus out of it, at some point I had to start lifting it about an inch off the desk and dropping it, etc.

      So here's the fun part. Apparently, at some point, the monitor got tired of my abuse and just started working. Flawlessly. Worked without an incident for about a year after that, until I had to get rid of it (was moving out of state and had too much stuff).

      -goltrpoat

    23. Re:hitting it by kalirion · · Score: 1

      Reminds me of that story from India about the police being sent to confiscate some computers, and returning with just the monitors.

  6. Not sure how it works... by CastrTroy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Not sure how it works, but I've saved 2 or 3 hard drives that reported tons of bad sectors with cat /dev/urandom > /dev/hdb and then cat /dev/zero > /dev/hdb and repeating that a couple times. Seems to alleviate all the problems. The drives wouldn't format, and all the data would get corrupted, but after doing that trick, they haven't had a problem (with the longest running drive being 2 years after the fix and still going).

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    1. Re:Not sure how it works... by Ant+P. · · Score: 1

      I'm guessing it probably works the same way as fixing Ni-MH batteries by discharging and recharging them completely several times.

    2. Re:Not sure how it works... by Roadmaster · · Score: 5, Informative

      Here's how it works.

      IDE drives keep a list of spare sectors to be used if one of the "primary" ones gets damaged. However, if a sector gets damaged and it already contained data, the drive won't reallocate it, because it would have no way of recovering the information. So it keeps "hoping" that some day the data will be readable again, and when that happens, it'll reallocate the sector. However, it never happens.

      When you overwrite a defective sector, the drive says "aha! since the user overwrote the information, it means it's not important anymore; so I'll go ahead, mark the sector as bad and replace it with a spare". That's why overwriting gives the drive a chance to remap all bad sectors to clean ones.

      This is a trick I learned by reading the documentation on smartd; if SMART reports defective or unreadable sectors, there's a way to figure out which files reside in those sectors and overwrite them with zeroes; the file will of course be lost, but by overwriting you let the drive reassign the sector and everything is peachy again.

      By the way, if you reformat the drive with the destructive verification option (-c -c) it's likely that when the test overwrites to verify readability, the same reassigning process will take place; the standard "-c" test is a read-only test that's why you're unable to format a drive without the overwriting procedure.

      So you see, not voodoo. :)

    3. Re:Not sure how it works... by spinja · · Score: 5, Informative

      This trick even works non-destructively: dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hda bs=512 A friend of mine showed me this method a few years ago and it has helped recover failing drives over a dozen times since.

    4. Re:Not sure how it works... by bcrowell · · Score: 3, Funny

      Hey, I tried what you said, but it didn't make my computer work better, it broke it! How come?

    5. Re:Not sure how it works... by The+G · · Score: 1

      So you see, not voodoo...
      No, just plain old "suffiently advanced technology."

    6. Re:Not sure how it works... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Drives themselves keep track of bad sectors, add them to a list, and avoid them in the future. However, it only has a list for so many sectors. After that it's up to your file system to keep track of the ones that don't fit.

    7. Re:Not sure how it works... by lullabud · · Score: 1

      Hahah, I'm doing that right now! We must be from the same cult.

    8. Re:Not sure how it works... by Lord+Kano · · Score: 1

      With newer drives, the drive's firmware does it automatically. With older drives, you'd see the "B"s in scandisk.

      LK

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    9. Re:Not sure how it works... by antime · · Score: 1

      You'll also see bad sectors on modern drives when it runs out of spares. At that point you know the drive is FUBAR'd and the best thing you can hope for is to get backups before it breaks completely.

    10. Re:Not sure how it works... by cowbutt · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Roadmaster has the explanation bang on the money in his post.

      The only thing left to add is that doing

      dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hdb bs=10485760
      should be significantly quicker.

      Oh, and the other thing is that, these days, I tend to run badblocks' write-test on new drives, in an attempt to get the drive to remap any failed or marginal blocks before putting Important Information on them.

    11. Re:Not sure how it works... by cowbutt · · Score: 2, Informative
      Is it the drive itself that tracks and takes care of bad sectors, or does the OS do that?

      Both. :-)

      As far as I'm aware, all (E)IDE, SCSI and (S)ATA drives have spare blocks that are used for remapping blocks that fail whilst the drive is in service (incidentally, I suspect that SCSI drives have significantly more, which would go some way to explaining their lower capacity/platter ratio and higher MTBF ratings, beyond the pure mechanical stuff and individual rather than batch testing).

      In addition to that, most filesystems include a way of marking blocks as bad so that new information will not be written there. I'm pretty sure DOS/Windows' scandisk does this if it can't read a block, and mke2fs and friends will make use of the badblocks list generated by any initial badblocks run (though I don't think there's any [easy] way of marking blocks as bad once the filesystem has been created with typical UNIX filesystems).

    12. Re:Not sure how it works... by cowbutt · · Score: 1
      This trick even works non-destructively: dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hda bs=512

      Hmmm... I'd expect dd to throw a read-error when it encounters the first damaged block, and go no further. Conceivably, it may even cause the block device driver to throw a wobbly and crash the kernel, particularly if the implementation of the driver or the hardware is *cough* incomplete. I have no disc to test that theory right now, though...

      Incidentally, if you can identify which file is occupying the failed blocks, and it's not the filesystem metadata, then you can just delete the file and create a dummy file that occupies all the unallocated space on the filesystem to achieve the same effect; no need to dd the entire drive or even the whole partition! Of course, if Murphy has struck, and it's the filesystem metadata occupying the bad block(s), you're boned. :-/

    13. Re:Not sure how it works... by moonbender · · Score: 1

      Hmmm... I'd expect dd to throw a read-error when it encounters the first damaged block, and go no further.

      Yeah. So you add a conv=noerror to the command line. Won't help with crashing kernels, but really the kernel shouldn't crash because of bad sectors on the HD.

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    14. Re:Not sure how it works... by polymath69 · · Score: 1

      This trick even works non-destructively: dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hda bs=512

      This is an intriguing idea and probably a very good one; it seems logical enough. But it would be remiss of me not to shout with the voice of painfully acquired experience:

      Don't ever try this on a disk with any mounted filesystems!

      Boot Knoppix, DSL, or something of the sort before even considering this.

      Painfully acquired. Learn from my mistakes.




      On the other hand, it's sort of interesting watching your system disappear due to a typo like

      # rm -r . *
      and suddenly /bin/ls isn't working, /bin/ps isn't found, puzzled huh? Best bet is to hit the power 'cause you're a lot slower than the computer.

      But there is a situation where this tip can help; that's the out-of-memory condition where you get messages like "can't fork: /bin/ls". Rely on the shell builtins. "echo *". "cd" is always a shell builtin. "exec" as a last resort, but know the builtins because when your system is at this point, "man" isn't a shell builtin.

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    15. Re:Not sure how it works... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Man, the same trick works with floppy disks. Try again.

    16. Re:Not sure how it works... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seems this is the thread for hard drives.

      I had a Maxtor 30gig drive three years ago which may have been another three years older than that. After owning it for a while, the computer would occasionally get really slow and files from that drive wouldn't work and then it would freeze. I assumed that the drive was failing and the operating system was running from ram or something for a while.

      The weird part is how I got it working again. Rebooting would not work. So hoping for another easy fix, I replugged all the plugs going to the hard drive. It worked. Eventually I figured out I only needed to replug the power connector. (Wiggling didn't help)

      That drive would fail a lot. A little less than once per day. But I could always get it running again by replugging the power connector.

    17. Re:Not sure how it works... by NaDrew · · Score: 1

      Brilliant. If you weren't already at +5 Informative, and if I had mod points today, and if I wasn't posting this "Brilliant" reply, I'd mod you up. Thank you!

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  7. hard drive by tempfile · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I once had a hard drive that wouldn't spin up if the computer had been off a few days. The only way was turning it by 90 degrees every time before booting the computer.

    1. Re:hard drive by chameleon3 · · Score: 1

      I had almost the exact same problem with an old "brand X" DVD player. Damn thing had to be at 38 degrees (+/- 2) or it wouldn't spin the DVD.

      Oh, and a little "percussive maintenance" didn't hurt either.

    2. Re:hard drive by Nutria · · Score: 1
      I once had a hard drive that wouldn't spin up if the computer had been off a few days. The only way was turning it by 90 degrees every time before booting the computer.

      Sounds like the lubricant was solidifying.

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    3. Re:hard drive by drachenstern · · Score: 1

      same here, maxtor I believe, drive is now almost 7 years old, if not more, and the only solution i have found is to let the sys run for +/- 12 hrs, then cold boot a dozen times or so over the course of an hour or so, then it runs with no problem. Now, not turning it off in the first place lets it run fine...

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    4. Re:hard drive by NixLuver · · Score: 1

      Obscure reference from 1995 or 1996. "HDDIDE001AAWW"
      "You want me to hit *what*?"

    5. Re:hard drive by RealityMogul · · Score: 1

      First computer - IBM XT w/20MB drive. Drive needed to be punched at the exact moment of the power switch being flipped in order for it to spin up. That worked until I got a new PC - 2 years later.

    6. Re:hard drive by Quietust · · Score: 1

      I had a similar problem with a rather old 5.25" half height 80MB Quantum SCSI drive in my old Amiga about 10 years ago - after leaving the system dormant for a long time, the drive wouldn't spin up. I had to take out out of the case and shake it gently along its axis (radially) before it would spin up. Evidently, this was caused by the heads parking and then sticking to the disk surface (apparently due to the lubricants breaking down) with such force that not even the motor could overcome it. It always worked fine after shaking, though (at least until I replaced it with a (physically) smaller 230MB drive several years later).

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    7. Re:hard drive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    8. Re:hard drive by CheeseTroll · · Score: 2, Interesting

      We used to call this "stiction" when it happened to old Mac SE's in the college labs. I had several drives die on me every day for a while one summer, and we'd have to whack them progressively harder to recover any data off the drives.

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    9. Re:hard drive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Once in the shop, we had this wierd laptop harddrive that made this strange whirring noise, almost like the platter was misaligned or something. The thing worked, but while cloning it, it would take FOREVER to move from one sector to the next. By accident, we found out that rocking the drive back and forth it would speed up. No matter what position it was in, once the rocking stopped, the drive would slow down again. We even took the drive apart in a clean environment and examined it, and everything seemed to be in order. In the end, we wound up hanging it off the tower on a pole with a telephone cord wrapped around it, with an oscillating fan that had two pencils taped to it making it move. That made the clone take two days instead of three weeks. We got most of the information off of that drive.

    10. Re:hard drive by Kankraka · · Score: 1

      My NES has this exact problem... it refuses to do anything but have it's red light blink unless it's sitting on its side.. 90 degrees counter clockwise. Anything else, and it refuses to play games :|

    11. Re:hard drive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I had a Maxtor XT-1105 100 "Megabyte" drive in 1985 that had a chronic stiction problem. The solution was to hold the drive horizontally and impart a sharp counter clockwise twist in the same plane. This would usually unstick the drive and allow another 1-2 years of uninterrupted operation ( without powering down due to power failure ). This drive lasted until 1994 before I finally gave up replacing blown spindle FETS.
      JimD.
      C++ is a good language, until you use it.

    12. Re:hard drive by AaronW · · Score: 1

      One of my father's hard drives could not quite spin up. It was an old 76MB Micropolis MFM drive (110MB with a RLL controller). Anyway, we decided to try putting it in the freezer and cooling it down, since it would spin up if it was cool. This worked and we extracted all of the data off of the drive.

      My Micropolis drive ran at least 7 years before I finally retired it, it had two bad sectors new and two bad sectors when I retired it.

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    13. Re:hard drive by lahi · · Score: 1

      Macintosh II with seagate 40 and 80 MB drives too. My predecessor systemadministrator would pick up the entire cabinet (big crate) and yank it. I suppose that eventually ruined his back. Me, I just took off the lid, removed the disk and yanked it gently with a turn of the wrist.

      -Lasse

    14. Re:hard drive by Hymer · · Score: 1

      That is 'cause some older drives were build to be mounted in a specific direction. When new they usually didn't have any problem but after some time (usually 2 - 3 years) they bagan to behave like this. It has something to do with bearings and lubrication of them.

    15. Re:hard drive by Macthorpe · · Score: 1

      Old computers!

      I used to have a Commodore Amiga that wouldn't read disks unless I slipped a playing card in on top of it.

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    16. Re:hard drive by mikael · · Score: 1

      This happened to my laptop drive last Summer. I left the laptop running with the screen folded down, and left it somewhere shady and cool which I thought would be safe (it was being used as Linux serveR). However, the hard drive started making a loud grinding noise, and had died within 15 minutes.

      The solution was to place the hard drive (sealed in a freezer bag) overnight, then give it a flick along the radial axis. This helped to unstick the hard drive heads, and I was able to recover all my data.

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    17. Re:hard drive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Probably stiction or seized lubrication. We had an IBM XT that had a card mounted hard drive. If anyone ever turned it off I had to pull the card, give it a hard rotational snap, put it back, and start the computer. This loosened up the lubrication that had seized while the drive was not spinning. In your case, you either have stiction with the head or the friction is higher in the default position so the drive can't spin up from a cold start. Once it gets going, the lubrication is working well enough to not seize.

  8. Walk into the room by Blastrogath · · Score: 3, Funny

    No, seriously. For some reason my presence is enough to get some computer problems to go away.

    (until I leave...)

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    1. Re:Walk into the room by mashade · · Score: 5, Funny
      We refer to this as 'techie karma' or the 'magic touch'. For some reason, it doesn't work as well with females.

      -- Shade

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    2. Re:Walk into the room by miyako · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Actually, some people laugh at that, but I have the same thing happen. I remember a couple of years ago, I convinced a friend of mine to try switching from Mandrake to Suse on his laptop. Chatting with him on the phone, he complained that booting up the system was taking 15+ minutes. I drove over there to see if I could possibly diagnose the problem (he had been using linux for a while, but was never really much for sysadmining). I walk over, he boots up the machine, it boots up very quickly and runs flawlessly. Tried a couple of more times, same quick bootup. After I went home, he tried rebooting and ran into the same problem. We were both dumbfounded for quite a while, until I finally worked out that it was because when he had been using it, he was sitting in his living room, and it had hung waiting for eth0 to time out, but when I came over to look at it he put it in the docking station and plugged in the ethernet cable.
      I've seen other situations like this. Many times, it's because the user is doing something they know is stupid/they shouldn't be doing, and with a techie looking over their shoulder they don't do it.

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    3. Re:Walk into the room by Alfred,+Lord+Tennyso · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Or they've been skipping some step that they figure is useless and they're sure they've done already but it didn't help. When demonstrating it for the techie they throw that step in just to save time. They're certain that when it doesn't work the techie will tell them they missed a step and make them do it all over including that step; it still wouldn't work and it would be a waste of time.

      Except that the step WAS crucial, and now it works. They had some other problem, and they'd fixed it, but now by skipping that step they still get the problem.

      I wish I could attribute that just to dumb users, but I've made that mistake myself. "Yes, I TRIED rebooting the router... oh, it worked this time. Never mind."

    4. Re:Walk into the room by Jett · · Score: 1

      I've yet to meet someone experienced with fixing computers who does not have this happen. It is very weird and after awhile the people you support start noticing it and telling jokes about how the machines either fear or miss your presense.

    5. Re:Walk into the room by grcumb · · Score: 3, Informative

      Computers mysteriously start working again when you enter the room? Feh. This hardly qualifies as Voodoo. I mean, it's got a perfectly rational explanation:

      quantum bogodynamics: /kwontm boh`gohdi:namiks/, n.

      A theory that characterizes the universe in terms of bogon sources (such as politicians, used-car salesmen, TV evangelists, and suits in general), bogon sinks (such as taxpayers and computers), and bogosity potential fields. Bogon absorption, of course, causes human beings to behave mindlessly and machines to fail (and may also cause both to emit secondary bogons); however, the precise mechanics of the bogon-computron interaction are not yet understood and remain to be elucidated. Quantum bogodynamics is most often invoked to explain the sharp increase in hardware and software failures in the presence of suits; the latter emit bogons, which the former absorb. See bogon, computron, suit, psyton.

      Here is a representative QBD theory: The bogon is a boson (integral spin, +1 or -1), and has zero rest mass. In this respect it is very much like a photon. However, it has a much greater momentum, thus explaining its destructive effect on computer electronics and human nervous systems. The corollary to this is that bogons also have tremendous inertia, and therefore a bogon beam is deflected only with great difficulty. When the bogon encounters its antiparticle, the cluon, they mutually annihilate each other, releasing magic smoke. Furthermore 1 Lenat = 1 mole (6.022E23) of bogons (see microLenat).

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    6. Re:Walk into the room by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

      "We refer to this as 'techie karma' or the 'magic touch'. For some reason, it doesn't work as well with females."

      I've had this happen a couple of times. Sysadmin walks in, the computer's fine. The term we use is "Daddy's in the room".

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    7. Re:Walk into the room by rts008 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Same here! If it was not for this one phenomenon, I would totally give up on any form of mysticism.

      As it is now, my fiance (I know- invoking mythical creatures on /.- but really true!) claims my "girlfriend" (my PC) is inhabited by karmically unsound demons. It works fine for me, but she has all kinds of weird issues with it. And she does have some real strange crap happen, yet on her PC, none of these issues crop up- even tho' the two PC's share similar config's and app's. WTF!?

      I guess my best bet is to convert the family's PC's to all Linux. Right now all three user PC's are WinXP SP2, with a fourth (Cent OS) as server. My "possesed biatch" is a tri-boot PC (Win98se for older games that won't run in XP, Win XpSP2, and Fedora Core 5- which is used 65-75% of the time).

      I will get it straightened out when I can afford to take the network and all 4 PC's with me to Japan and have a Shinto preist perform an exorcism on the equipment. Don't know what else to do at this stage, but at least most of the problems are entertaining (but a hassle) instead of debilitating. LOL!... as a side note- I used to work with a guy who no matter what disaster would happen, he would just laugh. It would really bug me until I finally asked him why he could laugh at 4-6 hours "wasted" work- his reply: "well, I can either laugh about it, or cry about it, and laughing feels better and keeps me in a better frame of mind to deal with the problem, so I laugh about it when I can."

      Good advice, tho' not easy sometimes. (this was when working in a heavy truck garage just out of the Army, thus the 4-6 hr.'s wasted work above- some jobs can get you in MUCH deeper than half or 2/3 a shift!!!)

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    8. Re:Walk into the room by RESPAWN · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I actually had just the opposite happen with one of my friends. He had given me the CDs for the Mankrake 10.0 Community distribution. I start the install, get it to the copy files stage, and then go to work. On the way home from work, I stopped by his place to say hi and we eventually end up going back to my place so I can finish installing Mandrake. After the install, everything was working except for the sound card. At first I just chalked it up to plain bad luck as I always seem to have issues with installing sound cards or finding proper drivers for the crappy onboard sound cards. The only difference this time is that this is a Sound Blaster Live! card -- probably one of the most ubiquitous cards produced and installed in the late 90's, early 00's.

      Long story short: we spend all night troubleshooting the PC and even rebooting back in to Windows to verify that the card itself is still working there. The card was working perfectly in Windows and it had worked perfectly under the SuSE distro that was overwritten when I installed Mandrake. After working on it for a while we decide to call it a night, and I turn the machine off and he goes home. About 5 minutes after he's gone, I decide to boot the computer again. Lo and behold! Sound works! I call him this and tell him this. He comes over again the next day, and of course the sound card won't work when I try to show it to him.

      I don't know if we ever figured out what was wrong. I think Tim and I just decided that he must have had some kind of unusual biorhythm or something. :)

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    9. Re:Walk into the room by Short+Circuit · · Score: 1

      I tell students, "There's no easier way to get a computer to behave than to have a tutor look over your shoulder."

      Gotta stop doing that, though. A couple students took it to heart, and made work living hell for me this semester.

    10. Re:Walk into the room by r.brown-bayliss · · Score: 1

      My mechanic has tyhe same effect on cars (well at least on my car)... All I have to do is drive up to his work shop and the "service engine soon" light goes out...

    11. Re:Walk into the room by Xaroth · · Score: 1

      For me and those I encounter, we call the effect "pixie dust." Computer-savvy people tend to have it, floating about them like a cloud, while nobody else does. (This also explains the whole "computer geeks + bathing = bad" phenomena... none of them want to lose the dust!) It probably just wears off on you from the magic smoke that comes out the first time that you're mucking about in the insides... hard to say for sure, though.

      You can tell that it's really pixie dust, though, because the more you (a computer-savvy person) tinker with the box, the more pixie dust shakes off onto the device, and the longer the magical effect lasts.

    12. Re:Walk into the room by jfett · · Score: 1

      I have the same power. It drives my coworkers and wife crazy when they have some intractable computer problem and I walk over and it suddenly fixes itself.

    13. Re:Walk into the room by SlartibartfastJunior · · Score: 5, Funny

      I knew a guy who could only log into the network while sitting down. If he was standing up when he tried to log in, no dice.

      Turns out he touch typed while sitting, but had to look at the keyboard while standing - and since he "cleaned" his keyboard and put a few key tops back in the wrong places, he was mis-typing has password if he was standing up.

    14. Re:Walk into the room by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This happens to me on occasions. One story is about my mom's sewing machine. It didn't work for months and when I got to it, the only things I did was open up the CPU box and stare at the blinking lights. I wanted to test the machine to see which lights were triggered on what occasion, but by doing this, my mom said "Hey, why is it working now? What did you do?" Uh... I only stared at the lights.

    15. Re:Walk into the room by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1
      The worst thing is when the useless step really is useless, but it looks like it works.

      Apple tech support staff are trained to tell everyone to reset the power management unit and the parameter ram. They do this for pretty much every problem. One time when I called them, I forgot to pretend that I'd done it already; it was a hardware fault (the thermal pads were incorrectly installed), I thought, and so no one would tell me to reset the PMU for that.

      The technician did, and the machine booted. The PMU is responsible for controlling the fans, and part of the problem was that the fans were not coming on soon enough. The machine stayed up for a good six hours before failing completely (at which point I had to call Apple and wait on hold for another half an hour to get them to collect it for repair).

      I'd skipped the useless step, because I knew it didn't address the cause of the problem. I hadn't realised it would treat the symptoms.

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    16. Re:Walk into the room by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      For some reason, it doesn't work as well with females.
      It does work: just like tech problems, women go away too when I enter the room.
    17. Re:Walk into the room by AndyCanfield · · Score: 1

      Happens to me all the time. We call it "Magic Fingers". Some computer is having a problem, and I settle in to examine it, and it works OK. Problem generally does not come back. My best guess is that I take it easy, read the messages, wait for each step to finish before doing anything else, have patience. But I don't know for sure. All I know for sure is that I've got Magic Fingers. I do have to be there in person for it to work. When the Chinese space station computer acts up mysteriously, guys, I'm available - 24/7.

    18. Re:Walk into the room by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I had a similar problem with a printer-scanner - one of those two-in-one boxes. There was a large green button on it which should have served as an instant scan function. Insert paper, press button, and the drivers will load up the supplied scanning software.

      Except that it didn't work when the user pressed it. He kept trying, no response at all. When I tried it worked flawlessly every time. This was just a single button press.

      It took a while, but much poking found the problem. Due to what I can only see as poor design, the button would only work if pressed briefly - for less than about half a second. Any more than that would produce no response. I press buttons quickly, while the user likes to keep his finger on them for a moment.

    19. Re:Walk into the room by Ben+Hutchings · · Score: 1

      I can't type my passphrases if I'm sitting wrongly, because I'm used to typing fast and if I do that from the wrong position I make errors.

      There are several random passwords that I can type quickly but which it can take me some time to recall the individual characters of. This is inconvenient if I have to use a different keyboard layout.

    20. Re:Walk into the room by Corwn+of+Amber · · Score: 2, Informative

      You do know this guy?! That story has been on the 'Net for ages, attributed to an IBM technician

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    21. Re:Walk into the room by rbochan · · Score: 1

      I have an old laptop that does the same thing. I need to completely power it down, instead of just rebooting the machine, for the sound to work when switching OS's. I used to have another old laptop that had a similar issue, but with the pcmcia system.

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    22. Re:Walk into the room by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It does: They go away.

    23. Re:Walk into the room by sjames · · Score: 1

      No, seriously. For some reason my presence is enough to get some computer problems to go away.

      If the problem keeps coming back when you leave, pluck a hair and leave it inside the case. It shouldn't work, but it will! :-)

      I figure just walking into the room shouldn't work either, so one silly situation deserves another.

    24. Re:Walk into the room by Yonzie · · Score: 1

      I knew a guy that had the reverse effect, although he had to actually use the computer for it to go into effect...

      A freshly installed file server running Windows 98 (yeah, way back when), he sits down in front of it to browse through the files on it and within 5 minutes he gets a BSOD by just using Explorer and me looking over his shoulder...

    25. Re:Walk into the room by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sure it does. The problems go away when you walk into the room; the females go away when you walk into a room.

    26. Re:Walk into the room by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      this is the lost keys issue. its easily obseravable.

      Keys, galsses, contacts, smokes, lighter.

      all objects of this class do the same thing, you will lose them, you will spend 30 minutes looking for them and the instant you ask someone else 'have you seen my...' they will point and ask 'you mean those?'

      simmairly if you fight your computer for an hour trying to make it stop fucking up on you the minute you ask a friend for help it will either work the way its supposed to when you try to reproduce the error or he will look at it and have it solved in under 30 seconds.

  9. Hard Drive Massage by mashade · · Score: 5, Interesting

    In my repair monkey days, my shop used to handle data recovery jobs of all kinds. The problems ranged from minor filesystem corruption or unbootable drives to physical damage - heads, and even a bullet through a hard drive (No, I wasn't able to get anything off that one).

    We had a variety of methods for dealing with the physically damaged drives that had suffered a head crash, but my boss had a technique he called the 'massage'. A clicking or noisy drive would be rotated around its various axes until the BIOS would recognize it on boot. Sometimes the clicking would stop and he would sit there holding the drive in that position or prop it up to keep it there.

    Another method we used was to freeze the drives for a period of 15 minutes to 6 or 8 hours. Sometimes this allowed enough contraction to let the tracks line up again, and we'd get as much data as we could with the drive cold. Once, we even froze a drive between two ziploc bags of water with IDE and power cables hanging out the edge to keep the drive colder longer. It worked!

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    1. Re:Hard Drive Massage by RealityMogul · · Score: 4, Informative

      Sometimes taking the drive cover off and watching what it is doing helps. My uncle had a drive that died and would just click at startup. Upon watching it "click", I realized the head was just snapping back from the position it was trying to read. Solution: physically hold the read head in place when it tried to reset. Worked well enough to get the drive booted as a slave and copy all the important stuff off of it.

    2. Re:Hard Drive Massage by Ray+Radlein · · Score: 1

      I've done that before with drives that were teetering -- held them in the "just so" position so that they would continue to run.

    3. Re:Hard Drive Massage by BoorayJenkins · · Score: 1

      The freezer technique definately works in some cases. Several hours in the freezer has earned me just enough time to copy off what I needed before it died for good.

    4. Re:Hard Drive Massage by Lemmeoutada+Collecti · · Score: 1

      Been there! My uncle had a drive die, and his "backups" were out of date, so I finally ended up freezing the drive. It would run for about 5 minutes until it warmed up, then quit reading.

      His soultion? Now that he believed in the magic of freezing, he took out the meat for dinner and we put the drive between two packages of frozen pork chops.

      Guess it's a good thing I like pork chops!

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    5. Re:Hard Drive Massage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      mmmmmmmm.....pork chops.

    6. Re:Hard Drive Massage by FireStorm69 · · Score: 1

      This is my most used method for recovering data from a failed drive that was not backed up properly.. Most of the time the freezer would work.. I held a drive and a weird upside-down angled position for 30 minutes before.

      Also, for some reason, tapping the drive as it was being read would allow it to work.. This usually fixes the hang at boot problems of a failed drive. I just try tapping it, varying the frequencies and verosity of the taps each attempt until it was enough for a successful boot. I think it would cause the head to skip the bad boot sector or something, but I really don't know why it works, just that it does some times.

    7. Re:Hard Drive Massage by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 1
      Western Dynex drives -- 22mb or thereabouts, geez hard to remember, was the 70's -- time of the old Jumbogas (Jumbo GA's. Are you reading this Gregory? Jackson? LoL) On a disk-to-disk sector copy We used to pull the 6RU rack mount disk drives out on their rails to about 3/4 extension, then give them a pronounced twist to the right (this took MUSCLE) whenever the system stalled during a BMAG operation. Whack about 20 "retrys" on the old Decwriter and torque the drive until it read the sectors. Did the same thing to get it past the verify too. Always worked, and we wrote it into the support procedures.

      What do you write to a 4 digit hex display when waiting for the fool thing to compile? FEED FACE DEAD FOOD DEDO DODO CACA and repeat.

      Hah! Jackson, Gregory, I'm in Australia now and you can't find me. ROFL.

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    8. Re:Hard Drive Massage by Ian+Peon · · Score: 1

      Something apropos to this that I learned today: drives are rated for density altitude. They need a certain amount of air molecules under their heads to function. If the air pressure goes up (lower altitude) there's more air. If the temperature drops, the air becomes more dense and it has the same effect.

      My guess is if the head has some small damage and sticking it in the freezer let's it float a bit higher than it otherwise would, avoiding the damage (until it heats back up again).

    9. Re:Hard Drive Massage by moonbender · · Score: 2, Funny

      There isn't a lot left on Slashdot that will make me wince, but this did. ;)

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    10. Re:Hard Drive Massage by Egregius · · Score: 1

      Freezing is actually multi-functional. When I first read the 'freeze your harddisk'-tip, it was explained that the lower temperatures strengthened the magnetism, and thus made bits easier to read.

    11. Re:Hard Drive Massage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      That was the /. equivalent of "So I put my finger over the hole in his heart and gave him mouth-to-mouth until the surgeon arrived."

    12. Re:Hard Drive Massage by dfinster · · Score: 1

      Freezing the drive often works, but many times has nothing to do with the actual platters and head. The electronics are usually the issue. A common technique we used when I did data recovery for a living was to use a can of freeze spray and a hair dryer.

      We could often locate the particular temperature sensitive chip, and just keep it frozen with freeze spray while backing up the data. It was normally the spindle moter driver / speed controller or the read/write chip.

    13. Re:Hard Drive Massage by RealityMogul · · Score: 1

      Hehe, well, just for the record, I DID try replacing the circuitboard with one from an identical working model, and freezing the drive overnight. I was just at the point of "I don't care anymore, I might as well tinker".

  10. 7-second rule by WilliamSChips · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Whenever I boot from Windows to Linux, I have to turn the power strip off for seven seconds for the network card to work.

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    1. Re:7-second rule by hurfy · · Score: 1

      I have a tape drive in our 'server' that follows the 7-seconds rule ;)

      9 times out of 10 the computer loses track of tape drive when you pull the tape out (old TR-3 with cartidge hanging out)

      Shut down computer for a few seconds, let monitor make its discharge noise turn it on again and it is there every time ready to go.

      No restart tho, i think the firmware in drive needs to discharge or something for it to reset fully. Restart almost always leaves the drive flashing an error light. Been working this way for 'reliably' almost 2 years.

      Oh well, that 'server' is just a pIII win98 box sharing a database. A forced restart each week really isn't THAT bad of thing ;)

    2. Re:7-second rule by littlerubberfeet · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I guess the closest reason would be that you have to wait for something to be reset in the card, and that seven seconds is the xRC value for a capacitor on the card to discharge and allow the voltage across couple transistors on some chip to drop below .7 (or .3?) volts.

      Or maybe just voodoo...

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    3. Re:7-second rule by rathehun · · Score: 1

      It's a well-known, but meagerly documented problem.

      http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-19 1835.htmlSee here for more.

      Regards,
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    4. Re:7-second rule by complete+loony · · Score: 1

      I sometimes have a limilar problem with keyboards. Sometimes when the keyboard is not working, I have to power off till I hear the caps discharge to reset something, otherwise I can't type at all.

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    5. Re:7-second rule by swarsron · · Score: 1

      When i boot from windows to linux i have to do the same thing (removing power strip for several seconds) to get my usb devices to work (annoying since my keyboard is connected via usb and there is no way to bring the computer down without the keyboard, no other computer with net access).

    6. Re:7-second rule by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have a similar issue: whenever I 'hibernate' windows then boot linux, the network stops working. It always works if I shut down Windows the 'long' way though.

    7. Re:7-second rule by Handover+Phist · · Score: 1

      There's also a 7-install rule. I have a machine that, when [re]installing XP on it, the network driver will take perfectly on the seventh install. Every time before the seventh will encounter random errors.

  11. feeling better, thank you by gnarlin · · Score: 4, Funny
    I always have the feeling the gentoo runs more smoothly if I recompile the kernel again, even if it's the same version that is currently running.

    I gotta stop using gentoo.

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    1. Re:feeling better, thank you by TheSHAD0W · · Score: 1

      Updated compiler or std libs?

    2. Re:feeling better, thank you by bananaguyc · · Score: 1

      Much like adding a three-foot spoiler to your Honda gives you the feeling that you have more horsepower, even if you have done absolutely nothing to upgrade the engine.

    3. Re:feeling better, thank you by matt_martin · · Score: 1

      Yes, there is life after gentoo. Much better life.
      Get a life, ditch gentoo...

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  12. Re:hit the monitor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    me i always HIT the MONITOR because i know that EVERYTHING (is not) THERE but i'm felling better after that (and not worrying about my harddrive)

  13. Random Cursing and Hitting by Couchmanx · · Score: 5, Funny

    On the first pc I built one of the best ways to keep it in line in its last few weeks with me was to randomly yell and smack the pc, it didnt know when it would happen so it didnt risk crapping out on me :P Nah, Ive never had to rely on any voodoo to keep my pc running .. but to eliminate some annoying buzzing sounds from fans nothing beats a swift smack on the top left corner of the case. I had a roommate that smacked his pc cause it wasnt working the way he wanted it to .. but it was working perfectly fine (no hardware or software issues - all user issues) .. I told him I'd have to start a support group for his electronics (he hit everything) if he kept it up. Electronic Victims of **** still lives to this day (name censored so he doesnt come after me :P)

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  14. I don't smack my laptop by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

    I just remove the overhot battery, unplug the power cords, let it cool down, and restart it again.

    But I do sometimes force it to exit to a menu state in certain programs, so that it will flush the video and data cache and write the threads out.

    Am looking forwards to when Windows Vista is so common I'll be forced to upgrade my WinXP laptop to Linux, quite frankly.

    I'd rather issue a kill command any day.

    Besides, if I smack my laptop, the vibrations make me feel all funny ...

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    1. Re:I don't smack my laptop by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

      Speaking of overheating laptops, I had a roommate in university who could only play certain games on his laptop if he left the CD drive open. Otherwise the computer would lock up. As far as we could figure, opening the CD drive would allow just a little extra air to flow, and keep it cool enough so it didn't lock up. Thank god for NoCD crackz.

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    2. Re:I don't smack my laptop by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1
      Last time I sent my PowerBook in for repairs, the Apple technicians left an application on my machine for manually controlling the fans. Everywhere I've looked on the web has stated that it is not possible to control the PowerBook's fans in software in OS X, so I guess this utility isn't intended for general distribution (although since the copyright notice says 'Copyright 2004 __MyCompanyName__' it doesn't seem to be stopping distribution). I find it very useful when watching DVDs; the fans tend not to spin up as early as I would like and occasionally I find the drive overheats which typically causes the player to crash. Turning the right side fan to 33% stops this from happening (and is not usually audible over the audio track).

      Apple engineers seem to value silence over stability. I wish they would make it a configurable option.

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  15. TV Card by The+Mysterious+X · · Score: 3, Interesting

    My old TV card. No matter what cables you used, if the aerial lead wasn't bent at a 90 degree angle about 2 inches away from the computer, it wouldn't pick up a signal. In the end I just blutacked it down; I assume there was a loose connection inside, and the twist put out just enough force to make the connection.

  16. My analysis? by Travoltus · · Score: 3, Insightful

    For smacking the computer to keep a hard drive formatting from failing, I'd say something is loose. And that will stop working after a while.

    The same is most likely true with the ethernet card.

    The motherboard itself may have something loose, and the way to deal with all of it is to move components into other PC's and see how things go.

    I've seen and met all hardware problems and beat 'em all (even if by buying a new component). The REAL voodoo lies in the software. Why in God's holy name does Windows fail to boot one time, and then boot successfully the second time?

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    1. Re:My analysis? by FLEB · · Score: 4, Funny

      Why in God's holy name does Windows fail to boot one time, and then boot successfully the second time?

      Hardware problems.

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    2. Re:My analysis? by chris_eineke · · Score: 0
      Why in God's holy name does Windows fail to boot one time, and then boot successfully the second time?
      Well, isn't that obvious?

      Pristine Windows are squeaky clean and Oh, Shiny! Then you kick them very hard, because you're angry at Mac, and you start Bleeding, because of the sharp Edges. And since it's common to bleed quite a lot when booting Windows, your face may become Blue. That's a failed boot attempt. Now they're broken and lots of Glass is missing being replaced by Aero. That means you'll have to get new Windows and pay the Microsoft Tax. Vi$$$ta, baby! By now, frustrated, having had a blood transfusion, and your face flushed red like an Apple, you kick them very hard a SEcond time and, well, nothing really happens because it wasn't really supposed to work anyways. That's a successful boot attempt.
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    3. Re:My analysis? by Yehooti · · Score: 1

      Computers are devices from hell. It's only with loud cussing that one can get them to work with a new installation.

    4. Re:My analysis? by cgenman · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The first time I assembled this computer, it didn't work. I unplugged all of the devices one at a time. Still didn't work. Set it to a minimum configuration that should work. Didn't work. I disassembled the computer entirely, to test it. The parts all worked fine in a different computer. I plugged everything back together, and it didn't work.

      Long story short... there is one screw in the motherboard that if I tighten it down... the motherboard doesn't work. You can't believe how long it took to find one screw in a sea of possible errors.

      Also, I used to have to put my PS1 up on frozen peas for it to work. It didn't like other frozen vegetables, just peas.

    5. Re:My analysis? by AJWM · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Why in God's holy name does Windows fail to boot one time, and then boot successfully the second time?

      Hah. I had something close to that one. A friend's Windows XP Home system. Boot it up, runs fine for about 30 seconds, then locks up hard. Reboot it, works fine for as long as you like. Next time you boot it up, locks up after about 30 seconds. Reboot, works fine. Lather, rinse, repeat.

      I booted it up off a Knoppix disc and ran a bunch of hardware tests -- nothing. And no problems with locking up either.

      Back to Windows -- same thing.

      I eventually realized the pattern: after a clean Windows shutdown, it would lock up 30 seconds after the next boot. After a dirty shutdown (e.g. power cycle or reset button), it would boot up fine. Obviously the Windows shutdown was leaving something in a funky state for next time. Beats me what.

      I told my friend she had the choice of doing a re-install and keeping fingers crossed, or always shutting it down with the power switch, or moving to Linux. I don't recall what she did beyond passing the box on to her kids because she'd already got a new one for herself.

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    6. Re:My analysis? by mkcmkc · · Score: 5, Funny
      Hardware problems.

      Do you mean the first time or the second time?

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    7. Re:My analysis? by cowbutt · · Score: 1

      Race conditions and buggy hardware initialisation/reset routines, would be my guess.

    8. Re:My analysis? by NotPeteMcCabe · · Score: 1
      I had a similar problem with my Mac (back in OX 8.6 days). The machine would boot up, and freeze after about 15 seconds. If I started working, it would run a minute or two before freezing.

      Turns out there was a bad print file. The machine would boot, and when it went to retry printing the file, it would freeze. But if I was working, it would take Desktop Print Monitor that much longer to start up. That was a hell of a problem to debug because it always froze while I was doing something different.

    9. Re:My analysis? by toddestan · · Score: 1

      I had a laptop that did that. Troubleshooting something else, and I turned down the video acceleration, and I ended up fixing that problem. So I left the video acceleration turned off. I figured the graphics adaptor was flaky, but without being able to swap it out, I had no way to check or fix it.

    10. Re:My analysis? by Pasquina · · Score: 1

      Then why ever shut it down cleanly?

    11. Re:My analysis? by WCLPeter · · Score: 1

      A friend of mine has this PC. Do whatever you want to it, remove cards, swap cables, whatever. Just don't unplug the mouse.

      It's weird, if you unplug the mouse, even when all cables are disconnected, if you plug it back in and turn on the PC it won't recognize it without reformatting the drive and reinstalling the OS. Even trying different serial buses didn't fix it. It also didn't matter what the OS used was either (we tried Linux, various Windows flavours, even a few "live" CDs), the mouse wouldn't work again until you reformatted and reinstalled the OS.

      We thought it was the mouse so we tried it on different PC's and it worked fine.

      We could never figure it out, so he taped the mouse to the case and he yells, loudly, at anyone who even thinks of unplugging it. ;-)

      Pete...

    12. Re:My analysis? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      XP would consistently freeze on me after boot up. It turned out to be a bad installation disk. I used a different CD for the install and didn't have any problems afterward. YMMV

    13. Re:My analysis? by Travoltus · · Score: 1

      Does Windows [i]ever[/i] do anything cleanly?

      Blame it on memory leaks. I'd say that memory leaks are the X factor and the gremlins of Windows.

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    14. Re:My analysis? by bofh69 · · Score: 1

      Hardware problems.


      Do you mean the first time or the second time?


      Both.
    15. Re:My analysis? by smyle · · Score: 1
      A friend's Windows XP Home system.

      Real friends don't let friends use XP Home.

      ;-)

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    16. Re:My analysis? by jbeaupre · · Score: 1

      Oh, I checked all the cables. It was the umpteenth time trying to format it and listening to it go erg-erg-erg that I just up and hit the PC case. It started formating fine for a few moments, then the noise. Being a lowly grad student with lots of pent up frustration, I was fine beating the crap out of the machine for an hour. After the format, it never had another problem in the 2 years I was responsible for it.

      The ethernet card is even stranger. If it weren't for lack of cash and some mighty expensive software license locked to the machine, I'd just replace it. But after the lightning near miss, the AGP, onboard ethernet, and sound died. AGP card works fine in another machine. onboard ethernet is toast. Won't even boot if sound is enabled in bios. So all three are disabled. Found the ethernet card trick by accident. Tried a couple cards with random results. One time I forgot to unplug the pc. Inserting the card powered everything up and the card worked. Some more screwing around confirmed that it was the only guaranteed method of booting properly. Changing buss setting helped, but never fixed the trouble.

      My guess is that something in the bus controller is toasted. Just a few transistors, but enough that timings are out of spec. And I wouldn't stake my life on that guess either. Jsut trying to keep the sucker alive until we can get a nice core 2 duo replacement (probably in 6 months).

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  17. Wireless by stefanlasiewski · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I bought a bunch of Dlink DWL-520 wireless cards from Tigerdirect (refurbished, mail in rebate, etc. etc). These cards came to $20 apiece, which was a pretty good deal in 2004. You probably know this card -- it's called the 'DWL-520', but could actually be one of 6 different cards, each containing a different wireless chip--- each requiring it's own driver. A piece of crap-- but I wasn't willing to spend more money on a wireless network justyet.

    However, after I installed the card, Windows 2000 would crash with the following BSOD:


            DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL

            *** STOP: 0X000000D1 (0X0191A400,0X00000002,0X00000001,0XF828B908)

            *** NETR33X.SYS - Address F828B908 base at F827B000, Datestamp 3ecdaf93


    Annoying as heck-- somewhat expected from a cheap network card.

    So one day I was wat home downloading Fedora with bittorrent--- my DSL connection was maxxed out. There was too much interference on the line, so I hit the little 'channel' button to switch to a different channel.

    As soon as I hit the button on the phone -- *boom*, the computer threw up the Blue Screen of Death. ANd sure enough, I reboot, hit the button on the phone-- and *boom* -- Computer crashes again.

    I have since replaced all of the D-Link cards with cards from other manufacturers.
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    1. Re:Wireless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I haven't heard of this at all and I built a lot of PCs around 2004-2005 with DWL520. The chip was always TI ACX100 and it has an excellent free driver (written without documentation I might add!).

    2. Re:Wireless by a10_es · · Score: 1

      My father had the same issue with his windows 2000 on the old laptop (toshita satellite 4000 I think) and a dlink pcmcia card (dwl-520+). However it only appeared if his desktop computer was not on the network (it was not on, or he wasn't home). How's that for weird?

      I never got around to even finding what the problem was. Now he has a new laptop that works flawlessly

    3. Re:Wireless by Eil · · Score: 1

      This is why I prefer 800MHz or 900MHz cordless phones. They cause less intereference with other equipment and their signal seems to penetrate objects better. My guess is that these lower frequency ranges have to be licensed from the FCC. The manufacturers would rather skip the licensing fees even if it means selling phones that only make it to about 30 feet from the base station without too many walls in between.

      Ten years ago, my dad bought a cordless Sony phone that he used to carry with him down to the beach 1/2 mile away and still hold an intereference-free conversation on it.

    4. Re:Wireless by Yonzie · · Score: 1

      I thought I just had bad karma with D-Link, but it seems it's not just me...

      Out of the 5 D-Link products I've had, 3 (2x16 and 1x24 port switches) have just stopped passing data through (but the LED's indicated everything was A-OK) after approx. 2 years, one (5-port switch) has a physically broken wall wart (but still works if i fiddle the wall wart into the receptacle in the wall) and the last one (Wi-Fi router) *probably* works if it gets a new wall wart but it's incompatible with my 3com 802.11b card and drops SSH connections after a few minutes without activity.

      For some reason I'm not really inclined to buy D-Link again... I guess it's in the name too, De-Link...

    5. Re:Wireless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I once stuck a Realtek network card into a girlfriend's computer that worked fine right up to the point where I reinstalled Windows months later. I fought with it forever trying to get it working again to no avail. I had not even opened up the computer, so I know I didn't zap it and there were no storms at the time. I don't believe I even powered the computer off at any time during the reinstall.


      Using a DOS-based utility from Realtek, I inspected the card and found that the MAC address was all zeros and other settings seemed to be "cleared." The utility had shown proper settings when the card had worked before.


      I never did figure out exactly why or how it failed, but it never did work again. Somehow, reinstalling Windows had killed the network card.

    6. Re:Wireless by stefanlasiewski · · Score: 1

      There are 5 revisions of this card (A through E), and at least two sets of drivers. My refurbished card from Tigerdirect contained drivers & an application for Revision E, but the card was Revision A . Rev A had different drivers and a different wireless management application.

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    7. Re:Wireless by joemck · · Score: 1

      I've had a very similar recurring BSOD on XP from my last wireless adapter, a D-Link DWL-G122 USB dongle. It got so it would pretty reliably crash the system whenever I'd remove the adapter. It didn't matter how I removed it -- "safely remove hardware", disable it first, or just yank it.

      The really irritating thing was that sometimes it would lose the signal but keep saying it was connected. Zero traffic could get through until I opened the ugly D-Link utility and told it to reconnect. Then sometimes it would simply refuse to reconnect, and just stay "connected" to the dead signal. The only real way to make it work was to unplug it and try again, but then it crashes Windows.

      That's the one piece of hardware I was actually happy when it finally broke. (The USB plug broke off from one too many unplug/replugs.) I'm now very happy with a Hawking "Hi-Gain" dish adapter. Connects from way farther than the crummy D-Link plus home-made antenna. And the best part is, in the rare cases when it does lose the signal (suburban interference), it detects it and automatically disconnects and reconnects within a minute!

  18. floppy drive by d3am0n · · Score: 1

    For some weird reason my computer kept stalling everytime I'd start windows waiting for the floppy drive to read. I don't know why, I'd just hear it make that "grrr rrrr rrrtt" noise for a half second, then suddenly my desktop would come up. Found windows came up way faster after I just unplugged it. -USB 1 gig key, eat it 1.44MB.

    1. Re:floppy drive by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

      I would like to know why computers fail to get the point that I don't have a floppy drive connected. Even if I disable the controller in BIOS, the A: drive always shows up in windows, and Linux still seems to insist that /dev/floppy exists. If you every click on A: in My Computer, the computer tends to freeze up for a couple seconds trying to figure out where the missing piece of hardware is.

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    2. Re:floppy drive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      For some weird reason my computer kept stalling everytime I'd start windows waiting for the floppy drive to read. I don't know why, I'd just hear it make that "grrr rrrr rrrtt" noise for a half second, then suddenly my desktop would come up. Found windows came up way faster after I just unplugged it. -USB 1 gig key, eat it 1.44MB.

      Seen this one. Fixed it by clearing out the recent documents in the start menu.

    3. Re:floppy drive by spauldo · · Score: 1

      The floppy interface has been standardized since the 70s. It's not plug & play.

      Many operating systems tend to just assume it's there, even if it's not, for compatability reasons. Windows has had floppy issues in the past.

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  19. Current computer by The+Mysterious+X · · Score: 1
    From a cold start, if you turn the computer on before the monitor, the computer fails the POST.

    If you turn the monitor on, then the computer, it works fine.

    At first, I thought it was just timing (maybe the PSU has to charge itself up or something, and the delay while I turned on the monitor was just enough time for it to do this), but even if you power it on at the main hours in advance, the monitor must still go on first.

    1. Re:Current computer by BabaChazz · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yeah... many video cards will report "not present" if there is no monitor attached. There is a pin on the VGA connector that says "monochrome" and another that says "color", and if neither of them is connected, the card doesn't know whether to report mono or color and reports "not present", and you get the long... short short short beep rather than a POST.

    2. Re:Current computer by MyDixieWrecked · · Score: 3, Informative

      I'm not sure I'm reading your post right (no pun intended), but...

      some BIOS require certain devices to be present to pass the POST. I discovered this the hard way when setting up a headless server. I spent 20 hours installing gentoo, got the services all nicely configured and put the machine in the corner, and it never went online... so I pulled it out and brought it back to my desk and it booted fine.

      I didn't find out that it was keyboard/monitor missing errors that was preventing the system from booting until I carried the monitor to the other side of the room and plugged it in and saw the keyboard error... then I poked around in the bios and saw the options for requiring keyboard and monitor.

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    3. Re:Current computer by The+Mysterious+X · · Score: 2, Interesting
      DVI slots only :)

      Once you've turned the monitor on once, its fine. You can then disconnect it, carry it to the other side of the room, unplug it, whatever.

      It sounds crazy (and my CS degree tells me it must be something else) but the mere act of turning on the monitor seems to cure it.

    4. Re:Current computer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've got a kind of similar one. This is the process needed to start one of my slightly older computers (an Athlon 800) from a cold boot:
      1) Power on. POST will hang looking for the first harddrive.
      2) Hit the reset button. POST will find the first harddrive, but hang looking for the second.
      3) Hit the reset button again. POST will detect both HD's, the CD-RW, and the DVD-ROM, and boot successfully.
      I have no idea why. It's also strange, since hitting reset is supposed to momentarily disconnect power, like a cold restart, isn't it? But turning it off and on in place of hitting reset doesn't work. Actually, it's gotten kind of annoying, since it adds about 20sec to the boot process.

    5. Re:Current computer by dysan27 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Ok, don't know why the it can't see the second drive, but some time the "not see the drive when you first start" is because by the time the BIOS starts looking for the HD the HD hasn't finshed spinning up, and so is not in a state to tell the bios it's there.

      When you reboot, the platers are already spinning, so the HD is ready when the BIOS looks for it.

    6. Re:Current computer by mikeswi · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The guy that owns my web hosting company told me a funny story along those lines once. He'd gone to the data center to upgrade the kernel on all his servers. They'd take one down, he updated the kernel, rebooted to make sure it worked, then handed it off to another guy to plug back in and the other guy would grab another one.

      When they were on the third or fourth server, they realized the servers weren't booting up when they put them back in the rack. So they brought them back to the desk, booted them up and they worked fine. They'd put them back in the rack and nothing.

      It took a couple of hours to figure out what the problem was. Somehow he'd managed to compile the kernel in a way that it wouldn't finish booting, if no keyboard was hooked up. He had no way to recompile the kernel there at the data center. He lives in Birmingham and the data center is in Atlanta, so going home to his own computer wasn't an option.

      So he ended up buying a few dozen $5 keyboards at some computer shop and just laying them on top of the servers when they put them back in their racks. Worked like a charm.

    7. Re:Current computer by BabaChazz · · Score: 1

      So? Same is true of the VGA monitor: once you turn it on, and the computer POSTs, you can unplug the VGA and carry it away. Does the DVI not have the ability to say what kind of monitor is connected? Is it not possible that the card depends on getting that information, or it fails its own internal POST? A VGA monitor doesn't need to be turned on to give the basic information (monochrome / color) that the video card BIOS requires; perhaps a DVI monitor does.

    8. Re:Current computer by sirmob · · Score: 1

      I had a server went down after a power outage - I was no longer responsable for the machine, but the new sysadmin was not available, so I went in. It was in a shop that mostly had Mac computers, so I grabbed a USB keyboard from one of them and tried to restart the computer. The server wouldn't get past the BIOS, which was absolutely horrifying - we had websites and email down for weeks, we tried to upgrade the BIOS and killed the board, we ordered a new motherboard and the problem still happened.

      Then we unplugged the keyboard. Everything booted perfectly. Somehow I was the first person in three years to try and attach a USB keyboard, and the BIOS froze unless there was no keyboard, or a PS/2 keyboard. Lost two weeks of my life from that.

    9. Re:Current computer by Geoffreyerffoeg · · Score: 1

      So he ended up buying a few dozen $5 keyboards at some computer shop and just laying them on top of the servers when they put them back in their racks. Worked like a charm.

      Couldn't he jumper some pins on the PS/2 port to make the computer think there were a keyboard plugged in?

      Or at least build a splitter with some 50c RadioShack PS/2 plugs, wires, and a single keyboard?

  20. Windows by aitikin · · Score: 1

    I had a situation a while ago where my Windows XP install wouldn't boot. So I figured I'd try running it through VMWare in Linux. I set it all up, get VMWare set to look at the partition, unmounted the partition (yay FAT32 drives) and started the virtual machine. Sure enough, it booted with no problems. After a week or two, my roommate needed to use my computer cause his was on the fritz and mine was turned off. I told him before to feel free, so he boots it up, selects Windows XP through GRUB and it boots fine. I look at it and think, "What the hell?!" I rebooted again, tried to boot Windows, didn't work. Went into Linux, VMWare booted it, rebooted and Windows worked. So for 3 weeks (the time it took to get any important files and such off of there, because I didn't want to accidently blow a big paper or story away), the only way I could boot into Windows was if I had VMWared it before hand. Since then, I've reinstalled Windows, but I rarely use it now...I should re-allocate that HD.

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  21. Funky Hardware Stories by miyako · · Score: 3, Interesting

    In general, with my main desktop machine and main laptop, if something funky is happening I will simply replace the part or parts in question to ensure a smoothly working machine, but I've had some interesting things with some old hardware I kept around for no real reason.
    I used to have an old pentium (133 I think) that ran well, except that the CD drive would only actually recognize a disk if you tilted the computer at about a 20 to 30 degree angle when the disk was inserted. I never did figure out why this fixed it, luckily I didn't need to use the cd drive very often.
    I also used to have a cable modem that would drop the connection if you so much as blew on the power cord. I always just figgured that was just some flaky hardware, and eventually got the cable company to replace it. Another really aggrevating hardware problem that I never figgured out was an old Sony DVD drive that I had. When you opened the tray, it would about 1 to 2 seconds later automatically close the tray, but when you opened it again it would stay open for about 10 seconds, just long enough to remove or insert a disk.
    I think everyone runs into a situation where there is some voodoo involved in solving a problem, it becomes problematic when people stop carying about having any answers, and just care about getting something working.

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    1. Re:Funky Hardware Stories by RESPAWN · · Score: 1

      I had the same CD problem that you describe happening in one of my machines. I think I determined that drive motor was just going bad and couldn't spin the disc unless the computer was close to perfectly level.

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    2. Re:Funky Hardware Stories by Short+Circuit · · Score: 1
      I used to have an old pentium (133 I think) that ran well, except that the CD drive would only actually recognize a disk if you tilted the computer at about a 20 to 30 degree angle when the disk was inserted. I never did figure out why this fixed it, luckily I didn't need to use the cd drive very often.


      The assembly that latches onto the CD might be loose. Tilting it could do anything from fixing a faulty wire connection to aligning the read laser just right.

      I also used to have a cable modem that would drop the connection if you so much as blew on the power cord. I always just figgured that was just some flaky hardware, and eventually got the cable company to replace it.


      Bad electrical connection. Either the board was developng a problem at the power connector, or there was a frayed wire in your power cable. I've run into both problems. The first condition happened with the laptop I'm typing this on...tension on the cable caused the soldering connections to break. A friend resoldered it, and now it works fine. I see the second condition all the time...people in the computer lab keep kicking the wiring, causing stress.

      Another really aggrevating hardware problem that I never figgured out was an old Sony DVD drive that I had. When you opened the tray, it would about 1 to 2 seconds later automatically close the tray, but when you opened it again it would stay open for about 10 seconds, just long enough to remove or insert a disk.


      Sounds like there was something loose inside the drive, or there might have been a bad gear. If something causes the drive to think the tray isn't opening all the way, it will draw the tray back in to avoid damage.
    3. Re:Funky Hardware Stories by NotBorg · · Score: 1

      Think that's funky? INMARSAT, a satellite system used widely in the US Navy, had an issue where clapping next to it would cause the modem to trip off line and reset. Wiggled the cables around... nothing. Shook the rack around, banged on it... nothing. Clapped your hands ah! reset. Yelled at it loudly... nothing. Clapped... ah. Never figured it out.

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    4. Re:Funky Hardware Stories by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This wouldn't happen to be a Vacum tube based device would it? When I was younger I built a tube amp for a friend out of a bunch of spare tubes and parts, just to see if it would work. He was wailing on the guitar for about 30 min, started playing something that was really high pitched and was playing FAST. After 15 notes, the amp produced a ear piercing screech for about a second, then shut down. my PSU had an overcurrent protection in it that kept cutting out, but I couldn't quite figure out what was doing it. I though simply the note he made did it. But repeated attempts to do that failed. And this happened the exact same everytime (if the riff was played fast enough and acuratly enough). Eventually I figured out that (as best I could, I still don't knwo what happened) We both noticed after playing with this problem for hours, that after 10 notes or so the sound would get distorted. It was a very subtle distortion. After that is when it shut down. ... My theory was that the guitar hit a harmonic of a couple of the tubes, being older tubes worn out or old, the plates would rattle, and there would be a higher than normal electron discharge, the music fueled a cascade effect in different tubes, when combined pulled everything out of wack and suffered the failure. In fact if the speaker was in another room this would not happen. And it was more difficult to cause if the speaker was pointing different directions. After he played on it for a week suffering no similar failures (to any other riffs). One of the tubes went out. I decided that it was a "working" design and bought several new tubes. replaced them and it never failed after that.

      Interesting emergent behavior eh ? What are the odds of building that contraption and getting that riff in the same room. I told him we should have both bought lottery tickets, since obviously we were so lucky!

    5. Re:Funky Hardware Stories by NotBorg · · Score: 1

      This wouldn't happen to be a Vacum tube based device would it?

      Nope, all solid-state electronics.

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  22. Playing Tetris solved my problems by mindsuck · · Score: 1

    While trying to install Nexenta GNU/OpenSolaris the installation kept failing for random reasons. The installer includes a console version of Tetris you can play while the software installs, I found out that playing it kept the installer from failing. That's what I call Computer Voodoo.

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    1. Re:Playing Tetris solved my problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now what would be cool is if each time you got a line it completed part of the install.

    2. Re:Playing Tetris solved my problems by FuturePastNow · · Score: 1

      Arclinux also includes (or included) a Tetris game diring installation, except, for me, the Tetris game crashed. It didn't affect the installation, though.

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  23. SuSE Linux by The+Mysterious+X · · Score: 1

    On my machine has to be installed with the TV card removed, otherwise the soundcard does not work.
    I have no explaination for this at all. If you put the tv card in once everything is done, it all works fine. (If anyone else knows of this, it is suse 10.1 retail, Soundblaster Live! 24 bit (on an msi k8n diamond) and a hauppauge CX8XX based card.)
    So I dont have to make a forth post, I have also put a hard disk in the freezer and swapped ram slots over (worked fine in one, but not in the other, with 2 identical sticks in 2 identical slots).

    1. Re:SuSE Linux by mashade · · Score: 1
      The TV card is picked up as a sound card, and probably takes the /dev/sound/dsp0 position. Your sound card probably never had drivers loaded for it since SUSE picked up the Hauppage first. Running alsaconf or setting arts to use /dev/sound/dsp1 instead would probably have fixed that issue for you. You could even define it in /etc/modprobe.conf

      I should probably stop saying probably.

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      ps - prolly

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  24. Cold boots only by kefoo · · Score: 1

    At a job about ten years ago we used both Windows 95 and NT 3.51. Rebooting from NT to 95 worked fine. If we rebooted from 95 into NT the network card wouldn't work. We had to power the system off and do a cold boot.

    Not a computer one, but... my high school's music teacher had an ancient stereo amplifier that would make the sound muddy every few minutes. The solution was to knock on the case at a certain spot until the sound cleared up.

    1. Re:Cold boots only by dadragon · · Score: 1

      Not a computer one, but... my high school's music teacher had an ancient stereo amplifier that would make the sound muddy every few minutes. The solution was to knock on the case at a certain spot until the sound cleared up.

      That one's probably a loose vacuum tube in the amp. That'd cause some interesting sound quality issues.

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    2. Re:Cold boots only by seven7h · · Score: 0

      Something Similar for me, I am a sound tech for my church and on the sound desk after a while all the meters start reading a swound even when there isn't (probably a dc voltage), if you hit the desk at the right point it fixes the problem.

  25. chkdsk. by Inominate · · Score: 1

    Right now my computer is fucked.
    It runs perfectly stable.

    But when I reboot, windows pukes, hard. It will refuse to boot completely even in safe mode until I run chkdsk. Chkdsk doesn't seem to find or fix anything, but once it finishes everything works fine.

    1. Re:chkdsk. by zippthorne · · Score: 1

      um.. stop using the reboot button on the case?

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    2. Re:chkdsk. by Dwedit · · Score: 1

      Wow, I happen to have the exact same problem. What are your hardware specs?

  26. Well, one old brute I have... by BabaChazz · · Score: 1

    still running Windows NT, AT box, dual Pentium Pros; it pulls so much power that it has actually burned out two PSU connectors. If you turn it off, you have to let it sit for a minimum of 1 minute; less than that, and it simply won't come up again. I don't know why not.

    1. Re:Well, one old brute I have... by Mister+Transistor · · Score: 1

      The old original Compaq "luggable" suitcases were notorious for this too.

      It's because of a power supply circuit called a "crowbar", an SCR that triggers (shorts) on transients from turning off the supply. Once triggered, the SCR stays shorted across the PS output until ALL the voltage stored in the filter capacitors drains off, to less than .7 volts. This can take some time depending on how big the caps are.

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  27. voodoo and you by Rolling_Go · · Score: 1

    most of my friends have given me the name computer jesus due to getting them out of jams so many times. i haven't had to resort to much 'voodoo magic' but when i had an old TEAC 4x cdrom on my 486 i did. that bugger would only read discs if you were smacking it while it read. one day i got really pissed and yanked the tray right out of the drive. i put the tray back in and lo and behold the damn thing works perfect. i dunno how the hell that worked, but it did. the marvels of computing and angry german genes.

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  28. cpu freeze by syrinx · · Score: 1

    Used to have a computer setup that would totally freeze at random times if the CPU was idle. As long as I was running seti@home or something else, no freezes. Let the CPU idle, it'd freeze within a half-hour. Never figured out if it was hardware or software or both; I seem to remember it happening on multiple versions/installs of Windows, but not in FreeBSD. And when I replaced the mobo/CPU, it stopped happening, even when I still had the samw Windows install.

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    1. Re:cpu freeze by Short+Circuit · · Score: 1

      "Freeze" might be a more apt term for it than you know. Sounds like the fault could have been dependant on the temperature of the CPU/Heatsink and/or motherboard. That could mean anything from a faulty solder connection to a problem with the CPU itself. (You didn't overclock it at one point, did you?)

      I could easily see a couple of bad ground pins causing a high enough current flow in the rest of them to cause heat issues on the motherboard. A subsequent cool down could cause some now-soft solder connections to break contact. On the other hand, silicon dies are finicky things...overheating could cause problems internal to a rarely-used section of the CPU that only manifest themselves when heat isn't applied.

  29. Jiggle the PCI by mnmn · · Score: 1

    I've seen many bad cases which bend when pressed on one side and which dont let PCI cards and their brackets align properly. When you screw them in the top of the bracket is either higher pulling the card out a little, or to one side. I just have that paranoia where I have to press the PCI card in and jiggle it to make sure the connector pins in the slot arent bent and touch the right pads.

    I also tend to blow on the data surface of CDs, even really clean ones. Especially when I pull them out of paper envelopes, I suspect particles on that surface and tend to just blow on in before using the CD. I know the fast spin cleans it but.... I just have to.

    But I never smack the monitor. What good will that do?

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  30. False assumption by Demona · · Score: 1

    The problem has a cause, and there's a reason why the solution works. The fact that you don't yet know either of those things is no reason to pretend they don't exist.

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  31. One piece of hardware I'll never understand: by Ant+P. · · Score: 1

    The Sega 32X. Refuses to do anything, at all, unless you've let it warm up for an hour.

    1. Re:One piece of hardware I'll never understand: by Short+Circuit · · Score: 1

      When I was a runt, I had both a SEGA 32X and a Sega Channel adapter. Unfortunately, you couldn't use them both at the same time. I had to remove the 32X whenever I wanted to use Sega Channel, and reinstall it when I wanted to go back to playing Star Wars 32X or Tempo.

      Well, I got tired of putting in those little metal plates and stopped bothering with them. Within a couple uses, the 32X was dead as a doornail. I didn't realize until years later how they could be important to the functioning of the device.

      (Darn, I miss the 32X. And Sega Channel. Two of the neatest things an 11-year-old could have. Long live Road Rash!)

  32. More Magic? by MerlynEmrys67 · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I always liked this story More Magic. A wonderful story about a switch that wasn't connected to anything, but when you switched it off of the More Magic position into the Magic position, the computer crashed.

    Got to love old school hacking

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    1. Re:More Magic? by CrazyDuke · · Score: 2, Interesting

      For one I remember a system that took a good lightning hit, burned a nickle size hole clean through the motherboard. Worked like a charm except for the modem. Stuck in a new modem and she was good to go, soot, stains, and all. But more to what you where saying:

      Reminds me of an old 486 I ran into in Highschool back in the days of the old AT hard wired power switches. The damn thing would turn on or off like one of those touch lamps whenever someone touced (and grounded, I assume) the case.

      But the freakiest thing was the little 13 inch TV my parents owned that would turn itself off, and would then turn on again if, and not until, I yelled at it.

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      Any sufficiently advanced influence is indistinguishable from control.
    2. Re:More Magic? by karim7783 · · Score: 1

      Well, this should AMUSE you all, I was in India for several years, and S#ms#ng had shipped a BAD load of CD-ROM drives out there (Or MAYBE it was a Biz strategy, who really knows?), so what'd happen is after so many runs, when you put a cd in, it'd spin up REALLY fast....and the CD would explode inside, poof gone, it happened to me, and when I opened the the case, it was HALARIOUS the drive itself was DEFORMED it had this HUGE bulge out of the top. (I take it something like this HAS happened to you guys at one point or another)

    3. Re:More Magic? by kofrad · · Score: 1

      im not sure if that was a bag shipment or anything, i have heard something similar though. i read somewhere that when a disc is spun at more than around 52x, it can cause massive structural failure to the disc, causing it to literally explode. thats why there aren't drive faster than 52x, and even those have risk of cd-explosions i've heard. you can blow up a cd in a similar fashsion as well. if you get a dremel with a bit that is wide enough to snugly hold a cd and turn it up, i think over 30,000rpm it will blow up the cd. i have never tried this, but have seen video and it looks cool. if anyone does try this though, do NOT have anyone anywhere around the cd on the sides. just keep back and dont point the cd at people, the way that the cd explodes will send fragments only out from it. like if the cd is facing up when you do it, the fragments will only go to the sides, not up, or down (until gravity takes hold)

  33. Always remember... by exp(pi*sqrt(163)) · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ...you gotta type 'sync' three times before it works.

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    1. Re:Always remember... by KiloByte · · Score: 3, Informative
      ...you gotta type 'sync' three times before it works.
      Don't laugh so loud. While running it thrice is indeed voodoo, there are Unices where you actually need to sync twice.

      The POSIX semantic is: sync() doesn't have to actually write everything, it can just schedule the commit. However, a second sync() won't return until the writes from the previous sync() finish.

      On Linux, a single sync is enough, though.

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      The creatures outside looked from Alt-Right to Antifa; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
    2. Re:Always remember... by truedfx · · Score: 1
      The POSIX semantic is: sync() doesn't have to actually write everything, it can just schedule the commit. However, a second sync() won't return until the writes from the previous sync() finish.

      Quoting `man 3p sync`:

      DESCRIPTION

      The sync() function shall cause all information in memory that updates file systems to be scheduled for writing out to all file systems.

      The writing, although scheduled, is not necessarily complete upon return from sync().

      Why is a second sync() not allowed to return early? Either I'm blind, or it says no such thing.

    3. Re:Always remember... by KiloByte · · Score: 1

      Whoops, indeed. I guess I owe those two karma points now.
      I based my post only on a man page I read many years ago somewhere and on the current Linux man, without checking POSIX (nor SUS) itself.

      Still, even though I don't remember where did I read that man page, there's at least one Unix where it makes sense to sync twice :p

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      The creatures outside looked from Alt-Right to Antifa; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
    4. Re:Always remember... by Spit · · Score: 1

      The Cray J90 operations manual clearly states that after bringing the system down to single user mode, you must run sync thrice before shutting down the processors and halting the mainframe.

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    5. Re:Always remember... by Richard_at_work · · Score: 1

      Probably because a second commit cannot be scheduled on data that already has an outstanding commit scheduled, so the second sync will block until the commit becomes free, schedule the second commit but why which time it doesnt mean much.

    6. Re:Always remember... by marcosdumay · · Score: 1

      I always wondered what use have a sync command that doesn't sync (unless you call it twice).

    7. Re:Always remember... by Geoffreyerffoeg · · Score: 1

      Why exactly is the command called "sync", then? I had the idea that fwrite or whatever buffered a write, and sync would ensure that write is done. What does fwrite really do then - buffer a buffered write, so the first sync got around to buffering the write itself?

    8. Re:Always remember... by KiloByte · · Score: 1
      fwrite and other f* functions are just a yet another layer of buffering. In some cases (lots of small writes) they're beneficial, in other (large writes) they slow you down. Their point is to reduce the number of syscalls.

      The operating system doesn't know about fwrite; it's something internal to a program and the libraries it uses. The real, important buffering is done by the OS:
      In order to write something to the disk, you need:

      1. a radial seek
      2. read the remainder of the sector being written to (unless you're appending)
        this requires an in-track seek and a read
      3. write the data
        this requires an in-track seek and a write
      Without OS-level buffering, this sequence would have to be repeated for every single write. Try this: for(...){write(f,"x",1);sync();} if you want to see how bad this can go.
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  34. Smacking the monitor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    For all of you who were dissing on the monitor smackers saying it'll never fix anything, it will, of course, fix monitor problems. My old CRT monitor one day began this annoying high pitched squeal. Turning it off and back on did nothing, but a good HARD smack on the side stopped it for a couple weeks before the treatment had to be repeated.

    1. Re:Smacking the monitor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Explanation:

      Old computer CRT monitors used Flyback transformers that operated just below 20Khz, the upper threshold of hearing. Although the transformer, in normal operation, should be almost completely silent, for it was designed to generate _electromagnetic radiation_ at that frequency, not sound. As you may know, a transformer has two wires -- the primary and the secondary -- wounded around a ferromagnetic core (flybacks use ferrite). Now, look at any ordinary loudspeaker and you'll see that it is similar in design to a transformer, just that you have only one wire wounded around a ferromagnetic core, which attracts and repels a magnet that is attached to a membrane, transforming electromagnetic energy into mechanical vibrations.

      Transformers normally don't emit sound because they were not designed to transform electromagnetic waves into vibrations, BUT if the current on the wires is high enough, the magnetic field around each turn is strong enough to make them push each other. To avoid noise, glue or enamel is applied to the wire after it is wound into a transformer, so that the wire turns stick together. As the transformer ages, the glue cracks or gets weaker, and the wire can move and vibrate, producing noise.

      When you hit the monitor, the wire in the transformer (and everything else inside the monitor) is violently shaken, which causes it to accomodate and/or the glue to stick again to the wire turns. As you have noticed, the fix only works for a short period of time.

      BTW, most people around you, especially if they're older, might not even notice the noise.

  35. Dell Inspiron 2500 by spx · · Score: 1

    What I am using now (main PC motherboard died, gtg get a new one). This laptop is possessed, sometimes I type too quick and w/o having any part of me on the mouse pad, the cursor will jump around. Sometimes the I & K keys go out so I have to plug in another keyboard just to finsih whatever I was doing. Its freaky sp00ky. I cant wait until my main box is back up and running, this is evil. I went from a HP NX6115 to this evil thing, then again both were free and 'borrowed' from fiances work, guess I get what I didnt pay for (even though the HP worked wonders). *insert aggitation face here*

    1. Re:Dell Inspiron 2500 by mbstone · · Score: 1

      Control Panel, Mouse, check box "Tap Off While Typing"

  36. Memtest86 by Wonko+the+Sane · · Score: 1

    Memtest86 has solved about 75% of the all the voodoo problems I've had with my computers.

    Most of the other 25% are directly related to water somehow getting on the motherboard...

    1. Re:Memtest86 by AJWM · · Score: 2, Informative

      That's because Windows is so used to random stuff happening that it doesn't notice the odd hardware memory bit error. It just figures it's another software error, ignores it, and moves on.

      More seriously it probably depends where in the address range the bad memory is, Linux happens to hit something critical and Windows doesn't -- or vice versa on some other machine. In my experience Linux itself is more tolerant of bad memory than some of the apps -- gcc in particular. I started overclocking one box and gcc began throwing all kinds of compile errors on code that compiled cleanly before. Turns out that's a known symptom of slightly flaky memory.

      There's code in Linux to allow it to work with known-bad RAM, you just need to tell it the address range to avoid and the VM subsystem marks that as not for use, kind of like a disk drive mapping out a bad sector.

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      -- Alastair
    2. Re:Memtest86 by Wonko+the+Sane · · Score: 1
      There's code in Linux to allow it to work with known-bad RAM, you just need to tell it the address range to avoid and the VM subsystem marks that as not for use, kind of like a disk drive mapping out a bad sector.

      I used that before, because it sucks to to throw away 4 GB of ram. It's a seperate patch, though. My kernel was all kinds of haphazard: badram + reiser4 + binary nvidia + vesafb-tng
    3. Re:Memtest86 by dargaud · · Score: 1
      Most of the other 25% are directly related to water somehow getting on the motherboard
      We have an old 600MHz Gateway laptop which worked great for everything (even videos). My wife once spilled her full cup of tea on the keyboard (and hence on the mobo) while working on it. Did it fry ? Nope. After careful cleaning it was still working, if somewhat unreliably. Then while we were on vacation, a pipe burst into the apartment above and water came down right onto the computer for a night. Well, this time it died, until I spent some time on ebay, found a replacement mobo for 35$ and that's it, back to life. In the process I wiped Win2K off the still alive disk for Ubuntu. All the PCMCIA cards, screen, etc still worked.
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  37. Poweroff after crash for 3c90x to work by bughouse26 · · Score: 0

    If my kernel panics and I do a soft reboot from a serial debugger, 3c90x claims it can't find my card. Power cycling the machine fixes the issue.

  38. Complexity by identity0 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Hmm, what you describe is not the result of being "advanced", but of being complex to the point that people cannot tell what is causing a specific state or failure or success.

    'Magic' is when a device does something well, which one did not expect technology to be able to do, and in a way that does not make it obvious how the technology is implemented.

    The story is about when devices do not do what they are expected to do.

    1. Re:Complexity by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1

      'Magic' is when a device does something well, which one did not expect technology to be able to do, and in a way that does not make it obvious how the technology is implemented..

      It's more basic than that. In the Clarkian sense it means that some action or effect cannot even be recognized or interpreted as technological by those without sufficient understanding. People from most modern societies would, if faced with some apparently magical happening, probably suspect that a machine was behind it even if they had no clue how such a thing could be. Couldn't be magic, of course ... everyone knows there's no such thing as magic.

      On the other hand, comparatively primitive cultures are more easily fooled: the first Native Americans that faced firearms had no choice but to perceive those weapons as supernatural. They had no understanding of gunpowder or explosives, no referents they could use to properly categorize those weapons as machines, or any real concept of "machine" as we know it. So, the guns were magic.

      At the current state-of-the-art, the artifacts of our machine culture are generally recognizable as such. That will not always be the case, particularly if nanotechnology becomes sophisticated, self-maintaining, and commonplace. Eventually there will be magic loose in the world ... or at least something so close to magic that it makes no practical difference.

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      The higher the technology, the sharper that two-edged sword.
  39. I yell at it. by twitter · · Score: 1
    A few discouraging words does nothing for the problem but it makes me feel better. This mostly happens at work where I have to use Windoze for data collection.

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    Friends don't help friends install M$ junk.

  40. Touch screen to reboot by marcsherman · · Score: 1

    I once had a buggy video card that behaved perfectly normally in Windows, but when I booted into OS2 on the other partition, touching the monitor would reboot the computer. I'm guessing there was some bad trace on the video card that was only active in a mode that the OS2 driver used, but was unused by the Windows drivers, and a static discharge on the monitor was enough to short out the card when it was in that mode. It was the quickest way to boot back into windows.

    1. Re:Touch screen to reboot by Wolfrider · · Score: 1

      Sounds like a good party/coworker trick. :) "Hey man, I bet you a Dollar that this computer will reboot if I touch the monitor!"

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      == WolfriderV6 == I'm willing to admit that *I just might* be wrong... Are you??
  41. Quadra 950 by Lord+Kano · · Score: 1

    I was working for a graphic shop a while back and they bought a nubus PowerPC upgrade card. When card was inserted, the computer wouldn't boot. It took me some doing, but I found out that if I rearranged the cards that it would. The upgrade card had to be in the highest slot and the graphics card had to be in the last slot. The other card(s) could be anywhere else.

    LK

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    "Hi. This is my friend, Jack Shit, and you don't know him." - Lord Kano
    1. Re:Quadra 950 by Short+Circuit · · Score: 1

      I would bet it had to do with the signal timing on the bus. If one of the cards absolutely had to be seen by the PCI controller before the other, it could be important that that card lay closer on the bus to the PCI controller than the other, and that there be a minimum distance between the two cards.

      What exactly does a nubus card do, anyway?

    2. Re:Quadra 950 by Short+Circuit · · Score: 1

      I had to laugh at myself after encountering NuBus on LowEndMac. Everything I said stands, just remove the term "PCI" from my post.

  42. I had a motherboard... by gillbates · · Score: 2, Interesting

    That wouldn't boot up unless freon spray was applied to the area just under the processor. (Okay, it wasn't real freon, but the CFC-free stuff...)

    It seems that it had a few "cold soldered" joints on an IC or two, and freezing it brought them back into contact with each other.

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  43. This works every time by texaport · · Score: 4, Funny
    Flip a CAT5 cable end-to-end gets a connection back (when assisting over the phone and you know its a loose cable).

    Tell the enduser their network cable "got reversed" and somebody will have to go over there and turn it around for them.

    First, if you ask someone to put the phone down to check for link light, they'll answer back in 3 seconds without checking.

    Second, even if they actually wouldn't lie about it, they'd never get under a desk to fix it in the first place.

    Even guys in suits do it every time, if you say someone will be over "later" to reverse their (known loose) network cable.

    End result -- works every time if you do it right, and no credibility lost since everybody understands what happened.

    1. Re:This works every time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Reversing the cable used to work a lot of the time with old coax network connections. That and or swapping the terminators. In fact, whenever we set up a lan game the first hour or so was usually spent getting the network running reliably. Usually by trial and error, or blind luck.
      Thank god for ethernet!

  44. Most unintuitive thing I've done by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 1

    I had just purchased a nvidia gforce 4200 and had it sitting proudly inside the open case of my computer when disaster struck.
    A can of coke got poured into it and all over the place.

    I saw the magic smoke :(

    My heart sank as the coke soaked itself into the dust bunnies around the machine and dripped slowly from the (now stopped) fan of the new card.

    I disassembled everything and did the only thing I could, I went and gave it a cold shower (just the mobo/gfx card).

    Remarkably a couple of hours later the machine was back up and ran without issue for another 18 months :D

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    liqbase :: faster than paper
    1. Re:Most unintuitive thing I've done by Short+Circuit · · Score: 1

      The only times I've seen magic smoke were when capacitors blew. And sometimes, those capacitors weren't really necessary, anyway.

      Showering the system helped get all the conductive goo off the board before you applied power.

      Water isn't really dangerous to electronics; It's the ions found in unpure water that makes it conductive. I'm still waiting for someone to give a PC a really thorough cleaning job, and demonstrate real water cooling by submerging a system into a cleaned fishtank full of deionized water. (The cleaning job is required to get all the dust and miscellaneous substances off the computer. If they dissolve, the fishtank water will no longer be deionized, and would start conducting again.)

      Bravo on a good solution.

    2. Re:Most unintuitive thing I've done by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hah! I had that happen the other day when my power supply blew. There was a loud firecracker sound then everything went dark. :-|

  45. old mac books talk about scsi voodoo by Joe+The+Dragon · · Score: 1

    Like you have to brake the rules of scsi to make it work.

  46. What I usually do... by bangenge · · Score: 1

    I usually stick needles in a PDA. sometimes it works.

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  47. Computer hardware and software voodoo by ArielMT · · Score: 1

    I picked up a refurbished Toshiba Win95 book that was so old that it didn't even have a CD-ROM drive. It had an Intel 486-SL/33 CPU, 12 MB RAM, and an 800 MB disk drive. Win95 was installed from floppies: 13 of the buggers, with IE3 optional on three more. Anyway, it didn't have an on-board modem. I had to buy a PCMCIA modem card, and all I could afford was a used 14.4 Kbaud. Yes, I surfed the 'Net quite happily on a 14.4, but that was a good ten years ago. But that thing had the weirdest problem.

    After using it for a while, like an hour or two, it turned on the modem speaker, so I could hear the modulated data whether I wanted to or not. After three hours, it just wouldn't hold a connection anymore, and nothing could get it back online. Well, I found that it was just getting too warm (but not too warm to the touch), so cooling it down made it perfectly useable again. The best place to keep it cool is -- where else? -- in the refrigerator. I was known as the only one within a thousand mile radius who kept his modem in the fridge's butter tray. It was the only way the modem would work for long stretches.

    For Windows use, given how often it crashed otherwise, I kept the can of Diet Coke I was drinking visibly crushed right next to the keyboard. I never crushed the can enough that it would leak, but I crushed it enough that a third had to be drank already. Keeping that within sight of the book kept it from crashing.

    When I switched back to desktops, I kept a Skuld UFO catcher doll suspended over the computers. When it was there, no serious failures to speak of. When it wasn't, the "System Halted" BSOD. Your guess is as good as mine.

    Now, for general use on desktops and laptops, I keep a plush voodoo doll or two around. I can't quite afford a collection of Tux plushes just yet, so I use the next best thing: Cozy Heart Penguin, one of the Care Bears (along with the patron Care Bear of cryptography, Secret Bear). Those usually convince PCs to play nice.

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    It must be Windows. It needs half a gig of RAM and a hardware-accelerated graphics card just to run Solitaire.
  48. cookie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    my girlfriend had an old pentium 266 laptop that her father decided needed to run XP with only 64 megs of ram (because that was the minimum requirment and he didnt want to buy more ram) it was the slowest thing ever but if she offered it a cookie it worked quick as if it was a modern computer and whats real funny is the only cookies she gave it were from websites

  49. "You are a pirate!" - Microsoft by The+MAZZTer · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Just today I turned my computer on after leaving it on hibernate for a week. The "thaw" as I guess it could be called, failed (the computer hung before showing anything useful) so I rebooted. Windows starts up fine and then tells me my hardware has changed and I need to reactivate Windows. Except my hardware hadn't changed since the last boot (over the course of owning this computer, admittedly it had changed a lot). Oh wait, I can't activate over the Internet anymore, I've installed it too many times on the same machine, I have to call Microsoft, speak a 42 digit number slowly into the phone, get put on hold, be told I spoke the number wrong, put on hold again, read part of the number to a person, and then type another 42 digit number read to me over the phone. Then my computer will work again.

    1. Re:"You are a pirate!" - Microsoft by The+MAZZTer · · Score: 1

      Troll? OK granted I'm a little upset that I had to jump through all these hoops to get my computer back to a state it should have already been in, but I wasn't trolling. I REALLY had to do all that, and it was annoying.

    2. Re:"You are a pirate!" - Microsoft by Progman3K · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I don't think you are a troll;

      A few years ago, my pc started randomly turning itself off while I was using it.

      During the course of swapping parts in an out of the motherboard and trying to boot the computer to see if a specific component was causing the problem (it was the power-supply, duh!), Windows eventually got to a place where it needed to be reactivated.

      The network card didn't function anymore because its driver had been uninstalled (???) during the tests.

      I didn't feel like spending any time on the phone over it. I felt it was bad enough to have a hardware failure, but even WORSE to have the operating system prolong the crisis for no other reason than it not trusting me.

      So I downloaded and burned a Knoppix bootable CD with a different machine and booted my computer with that.

      I used Knoppix like that for about a month while evaluating Linux distros.

      When I had decided which Linux distribution I was going to go with (Gentoo), I used Knoppix to backup the data from my computer's hard disk over the LAN to a second machine and then using the installation handbook, I partitioned and formatted the drives, downloaded and installed the base system and have never looked back since.

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      I don't know the meaning of the word 'don't' - J
    3. Re:"You are a pirate!" - Microsoft by KozmoStevnNaut · · Score: 1

      I have a somewhat similar story of switching.

      I was using Win2000 on my 350MHz K6-2 and WinXP had just been released, so I borrowed an installation CD from a friend (yeah I know, I'm a dirty pirate, it was the "Devil's Own" and everything), put it in the drive and proceeded to run the compatibility check. It failed on just about every single piece of hardware in my machine. I have no idea why, since it was just a bog-standard whitebox computer with an ASUS P5A motherboard which worked perfectly with Win2000.

      So I said "Screw this. I'm not going to have to keep buying new hardware just so I can upgrade Windows." and installed Mandrake Linux, which was later replaced by Debian, then Gentoo. Even though I later got my hands on better hardware (a 733MHz P3) I refused to even touch WinXP until I bought a Thinkpad T42 where it was pre-installed and not 100% sucky.

      The K6-2 machine is still in service as an IPCop firewall for my dads computers. It has been functioning perfectly since I installed it, and never had a single failure, so I guess the hardware wasn't at fault ;-)

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    4. Re:"You are a pirate!" - Microsoft by kreyg · · Score: 1

      Exactly the same thing happened to me... of course, after a couple (miserably) failed attempts at using the voice recognition, it informed me I could just use the keypad to enter the serial number. That worked flawlessly and much more quickly. Then they asked me if it was being installed on a different machine, I said no, they gave me a new code.

      Still it's a bit strange. Somehow it thought I had a different network card, even though the only one I have is the built-in one on the motherboard. I noticed later it was now listed as network adapter #2, so I'm not sure if there might have been a way to flip it back to #1 or not.

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    5. Re:"You are a pirate!" - Microsoft by Procyon101 · · Score: 1

      I switched to Linux permanently after this happened to me on a particularly grumpy day. I had played with it for a couple years, but never really had much motivation to use Linux over Windows. Then one day, I found that Windows had shut itself down on my server machine and was refusing to reboot because I was a pirate. Had the server failed due to a hardware issue, then that would be one thing, but here it was refusing to run under it's own volition and accusing me of pirating software while denying me access to my home network from work (which is what it was supposed to be doing). I switched all my machines to Linux that week (save for 1 XP machine I use for testing on windows, being as I'm a developer), and honestly have been much happier for it the last couple years.

  50. Florence Ambrose nailed it. by ArielMT · · Score: 0

    "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." - Arthur C. Clarke

    "Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced." - Barry Gehm

    "Any technology, no matter how primitive, is magic to those who don't understand it." - Florence Ambrose [Freefall #255]

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    It must be Windows. It needs half a gig of RAM and a hardware-accelerated graphics card just to run Solitaire.
  51. Networking and the color red by crossmr · · Score: 1

    I've had two weird things occur with computers. Windows Networking is a mystery. I find it to be extremely finicky and will work one second and not the next. I.e. you can browse the workgroup, then restart and you cannot. If I knew what I did to suddenly make it work all those times I'm sure I could retire.

    When I was in high school long ago I had a CGA monitor that was tinting red randomly. I used to smack it and it'd be cool. This went on for a year or more then I took microelectronics which included soldering. They let me take a soldering pen home with some solder and the stuff for removing solder. One night me and the monitor had a reckoning and on a whim I resoldered half the circuit boards. I have no idea which one was the problem one but it fixed the problem. I don't think I've done anything half as cool as that since. Yeah I'm a sad geek.

    1. Re:Networking and the color red by Short+Circuit · · Score: 1
      I have no idea which one was the problem one but it fixed the problem.


      Usually, the board attached to the CRT tube. Those tubes get hot, and can desolder the boards they're attached to.
  52. Mod parent up!!! by Fallen+Kell · · Score: 4, Informative

    If I had mod points left I would have done it myself. I never actually thought to try and do that. It makes perfect sense now that you said it. I always assumed that when used dd setting the input file and output file to the same thing would cause it to get stuck in an infinite loop. But now that you posted that and I thought it out some more, it makes perfect sense. DD will just grab the amount of data you specified as the block size from the input file and dump it to the first part of the output file (which in this case would be the same section of the disk). It will then increment by the block size on the input file and place copy it to the output file by the same incrementation of the block size, rinse, repeat ad infinum until it hits EOF...

    Again, great little one liner command to remember in the tool bag...

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    1. Re:Mod parent up!!! by blank_reg_0 · · Score: 1

      So correct me if im wrong, but if it just writes the sector it just read to the disk again and it skips over a bad sector, when it writes the next sector wouldn't it overwrite the block directly after the bad one thus deleting the data that comes after?

    2. Re:Mod parent up!!! by statusbar · · Score: 5, Informative

      The hard drives do a dynamic re-mapping of bad sectors to a different area. If you write an entire sector, and the sector was already marked a 'unreadable', the drive has an opportunity of using the 'secret' sector area instead. From then on, reads for this sector will come from the secret area. There are a limited number of secret tracks.

      This is one of the 'gotchas' with multimedia content. A hard drive may have fast access times and a fast bus, but if there are persistent CRC errors (and there is quite often CRC errors on a non-failing drive!), then the drive may have to take 15 or so separate reads of the track to reconstruct - It may also temporarily move the surrounding tracks to the secret area, then zero out the surrounding tracks in order to reduce track-to-track crosstalk.

      All of this takes time, and quite often any real time media bandwidth budgets get blown when this happens.

      The neat thing is, when this does happen, it is never an error. The program does finally get the data, but it just takes longer than expected. Typically one way to find out if the drive has remapped tracks on you is to have a program which measures track to track access time sequentially, and find the track boundaries that take a lot longer than a move from adjacent tracks should.

      Jeff

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    3. Re:Mod parent up!!! by tepples · · Score: 1
      if it just writes the sector it just read to the disk again and it skips over a bad sector, when it writes the next sector wouldn't it overwrite the block directly after the bad one

      When the hard drive "skips over a bad sector" to write, it doesn't overwrite another good sector.

  53. Not exactly on topic but close by alshithead · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I had a Lexmark all in one printer, scanner, blah, blah, blah that wouldn't work after we moved. The PC just didn't recognize that it was attached. The copy function worked fine but it didn't depend on the PC for that function. Uninstall and reinstall, troubleshoot USB cable, remove USB hub, all of the normal troubleshooting steps. Finally, buried in Lexmark's website, was the suggestion to have the PC power and printer power be supplied from different outlets. Not different circuits but different outlets. Craziest frickin' thing I've ever heard and even crazier was that it worked! If anyone has a good explanation for why that would work, I would love to know.

    As for being on topic...I can guarantee that shit will break everytime I try to take a long weekend or vaction. The corollary is that everytime I'm on site for a "just in case", I end up not being needed.

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    1. Re:Not exactly on topic but close by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A different outlet is likely to be on a different circuit breaker and have more power available, just enough to work correctly.

    2. Re:Not exactly on topic but close by alshithead · · Score: 1

      All outlets in the room were on the same circuit. That's why it doesn't make sense to me with my limited knowledge of electricity.

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    3. Re:Not exactly on topic but close by pjhenley · · Score: 1

      That could be a ground loop. Maybe they're hoping you'll get off an ungrounded outlet or change the impedences to make it go away.

    4. Re:Not exactly on topic but close by NateTech · · Score: 1

      The house wiring was faulty. If you still live there, get it checked.

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    5. Re:Not exactly on topic but close by IL-CSIXTY4 · · Score: 1

      It may be something specific to that outlet. My UPS wont work on the outlet under my wife's desk but is fine under mine. It's been a while, but I think the hot & neutral wires are reversed. It's more or less ok for most things that plug into the wall, but some devices are picky or, in the case of my UPS, designed specifically not to work in such situations.

  54. RE: Entrails by 00Sovereign · · Score: 4, Funny

    I keep various old expansion cards, motherboards, and processors hanging on the wall in plain sight of my beige box. The threat of disembowelment seems to keep it inline.

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  55. Flakey IBM Workstations by XeresRazor · · Score: 1

    I work in a corporate helpdesk environment for a mid-sized retail chain. We use IBM Netvista SFF boxes for our cash registers and they have a tendency to occasionally stop recognizing the network. Reconnecting network cables doesn't work and neither does rebooting or power cycling the machines. Oddly the only thing that seems to fix them is to power them off and cycle the power button several times with the power cord unplugged. Seems to be some sort of residual charge that clears when the system's cycled without power. It works consistently enough that it's in our internal troubleshooting documentation too.

  56. Uhhh by joshetc · · Score: 0, Troll

    No offense is meant to the poster but you do realize this is slashdot, right?

    For some reason that question just seems like something a bunch of "normal" people would talk about during a break at work. I've never met a geek stupid enough to smack their spinning hard drive to keep it from fucking up, as an example. Hot swapping PCI cards sounds like something I would do shortly after rebuilding my first OEM computer in the 90s while I still didnt know shit and was sub double digits in age. (guess it woulda been an ISA card then actually)

    Does anyone here actually do crap like that?

    When I first started reading the article / summary I thought he was talking about the "voodoo" that makes stuff work and there would be loads of insightful comments about the underlying technology behind computers :(

    PS. That seems like something /.ers would be interested in reading, even if they already know about it.

    1. Re:Uhhh by syrinx · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      there would be loads of insightful comments

      You must be new here.

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  57. Dowsing for bad RAM chips. by sakusha · · Score: 4, Funny

    True story: I used to identify bad RAM chips in old Apple II units with a dowsing rod. Finding one bad RAM chip out of 24 was a horrible pain in the ass, the normal procedure was to remove half of them, replace those with known-good RAM chips, see if the mem diagnostic passed, ok, it wasn't in the half I removed, put those back. Take out half of the chips that weren't removed before, replace with known good chips, repeat, etc. in a binary search pattern. This was horribly unproductive, particularly if the memory fault was intermittent. And even worse, once in a while, due to all the handling and insertion/extraction, or maybe just from static discharges, you'd ruin a chip in the known-good set, which really screwed things up, you could go back and forth for HOURS.

    I remember when I was a little kid, I used to watch the old Tom Snyder Tomorrow show on late night TV, and some weird guy demonstrated how to dowse using a couple of bent wires made from coat hangers. I was skeptical, but eventually I became known for some rather startling dowsing stunts, I used to challenge people to hide my keys in a location I was unfamiliar with, in houses or buildings I'd never been to, and could find them 4 times out of 5. So when I became a computer tech, I figured, what the hell, it couldn't hurt, it couldn't possibly take MORE time to try dowsing than to do the elaborate binary search method. And to my astonishment, it was a LOT faster. Sometimes it took me a couple of tries, but pulling just a couple of individual chips was a lot faster than pulling 12 chips at a time, and my results were way above the expected average of just pulling a chip at random. BUT.. I made absolutely sure that nobody ever saw me dowsing on their machines. This is Computer SCIENCE, after all, it isn't computer VOODOO. Ha!

    1. Re:Dowsing for bad RAM chips. by stevejobsjr · · Score: 1

      The real mystery is why you did a binary search. Why not replace one at a time with known-good chips?

    2. Re:Dowsing for bad RAM chips. by sakusha · · Score: 3, Interesting
      The real mystery is why you did a binary search. Why not replace one at a time with known-good chips?

      Well, the short answer is, because that was Apple's official service procedure.

      The binary search method is theoretically the fastest way to identify the bad chip. This is a basic comp sci search algorithm, if I remember the it right, with 24 chips, you can identify the bad chip in 4 swaps. Replacing chips one at a time is, on average, the worst way to find one bad chip. Of course you could get lucky and it was the first chip you replace, row 1 socket 1. How often is that ever going to happen?
      Also consider that the RAM diagnostic program could run for hours to run before a chip faulted, so swapping chips was not always the most time-consuming part of the test procedure. I sometimes used to speed up the process by gently heating up the motherboard with a hair dryer, on the theory that intermittent chips were more prone to failure when they were hot, but this was not usually effective.
      Also consider how expensive RAM chips were back around 1980. We were NOT going to just replace every chip until we got the bad one, we only replaced known bad chips, if we pulled out chips, once they were ruled out as not the cause of the problem, they went back into the customer's machine. Otherwise we would have ended up with drawers full of suspect chips, and customers would have had to pay for every single chip we replaced. Labor was much cheaper than parts, back in those days.
      Now I'll tell you what REALLY hurt.. when I had to service a machine that had TWO bad chips.. but fortunately, that rarely happened. They almost always went bad one at a time.
    3. Re:Dowsing for bad RAM chips. by Lord+Ender · · Score: 1

      Ah, selective memory... I can't remember it ever failing me.

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    4. Re:Dowsing for bad RAM chips. by Eil · · Score: 1

      Please oh please be joking...

    5. Re:Dowsing for bad RAM chips. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you should try to demonstrate this ability to james randi. he'll prove ayou wrong and even explain to you how you came to believe dowsing works. OR he'll give you one million dollars ... it's a win-win scenario :-)

      oh, and in case you'll get the million and would like to give me a cut ... my username here is n3k5, i'm just too lazy to log in from my secondary machine.

    6. Re:Dowsing for bad RAM chips. by marcosdumay · · Score: 1

      Binary search would make sense if testing the chips was the slow step, not exchanging them. The MINIMUM amount of exchanges you have to do to test N chips with binary search is N, sequential serach can do no worse than this.

    7. Re:Dowsing for bad RAM chips. by stevejobsjr · · Score: 1

      Oh, got it. I didn't know it was an hours-on thing.

      I was assuming the chip swapping was the longest part.

    8. Re:Dowsing for bad RAM chips. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you can identify the bad chip in 4 swaps

      5.

  58. Blowing into a floppy drive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ..yes that's right. My flatmate said his floppy disk couldn't be read.
    So I dropped to my knees and gave tht floppy drive the "kiss of life" i.e. blew into it ... driving the dust out.
    It could then read disks.

  59. Dr Who (Tom Baker) was here first by OldSoldier · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This reminds me of one of my favorite quotes/jokes from the Tom Baker era of Dr Who.

    He stumbled across an old spacecraft on a very distant planet. As he sat down at the control console he remarked, "this looks like Earth technology". As he began to power it up it slowly came to life then started to fade back out. He kicked the bottom of the console and the rocket resumed slowly coming back to life. The Doctor remarked "Definitely Earth technology".

    I just LOVE the implication that this sort of "kick it to keep it working" is a characteristic aspect of our technology that (in the world of this SF TV show at least) sets us apart from other species.

    1. Re:Dr Who (Tom Baker) was here first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's from State of Decay--written by Terrance Dicks, the best write Who ever had.

  60. well... by drgroove · · Score: 1
    What wacky stuff have you done that makes no obvious sense, but just works?

    I use Microsoft Windows. I'm not sure why - certainly its usage doesn't make any sense. But, for some reason, it occassionally allows me to use the computer in a semi-useful way, albeit for short periods of time at best. I know, wacky, huh?
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  62. TV board.. by lockefire · · Score: 1

    I've never had a problem like this with my computer, but a TV that I have would work and then suddenly turn off. The only way to turn it back on was to lift the cable line or wiggle it around. Obviously, some sort of connection inside was messed up.

    Eventually, it stopped working so I opened it up and didn't see a problem, but it worked when I flexed the mainboard. So, I just left the screws off the back (holding the board to the case) and every few months had to shove another piece of cardboard inside to flex the board more and get the TV to work. Needless to say, eventually this process didn't work so a friend of mine and I opened the TV again and played with flexing the main board while the TV was powered (bad idea) until there was a small explosion on the board. We then saudered the connection where the explosion occurred and amazingly the TV has never given me trouble since.

  63. I don't think you've got it quite right by oldmanmtn · · Score: 1

    It sounds like the real corollary is: "To any sufficiently dumb user, cause and effect are indistinguishable from voodoo"

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  64. The Magical Ungrounded PC by raxx7 · · Score: 1

    Some years ago, a friend of mine had his PC pluged into a power socket without ground connection. Ocasionally, the PC would freeze.
    Connecting the ground pin on the power plug to his house's floor with a wire would unfreeze the computer.

  65. ie by Walzmyn · · Score: 1

    What wacky stuff have you done that makes no obvious sense, but just works?

    I assume we are supposed to skip the weird, funky coding it takes to make an otherwise standard webpage work in ie?

  66. Machine Empathy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Didn't you ever play the role playing game "Paranoia?"

    Machine Empathy is a mutant power that makes all things electronic (be they computers, appliances, or killbots) into your best friends.

    I submit that people who program computers, and like computers, naturally develop this mutant power. :)

    (Incidentally, the best part of the game was that computer programmers were called "high programmers" and were worshipped (and feared) by the rest of society. That is how it should be.)

    1. Re:Machine Empathy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I love it! And you know what, I am tempted to honestly believe this. It is 100% consistent with my experience.

    2. Re:Machine Empathy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So true. It works in reverse to. My father can break any computer with a few keystrokes. I have watched him sit down, open safari, and cause a kernel panic by clicking a link off the home page. This was on my mothers computer that has had no history of problems, before or since.
      What's truly terrifying is what happens if you leave voice recognition on with him around...

  67. Monitor switch fun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Like any respecable geek, I've got multiple pcs hooked up to a single monitor via a switch. Which is fine, except for 1 computer, an old PII shitbox. If it doesn't detect a monitor plugged in at startup, then it turns off the vga, so no video even if I plug in a monitor later. Damn annoying... if I'm using one of the other boxes and I want to switch on the PII, rather than just hitting the on button and leaving it to boot up headless, I need to switch the monitor over, turn it on and wait 10 seconds for the vga card to test, before going back to whatever I was doing on the other computer.

  68. Urg by treak007 · · Score: 1

    I love how people have to mystify everything. There is obviously no computer voodoo. All things happen for a reason, and it takes just a little bit more effort to find that reason and fix it. This way you never have to worry about messing up your hdd because you smacked your computer.

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  69. IDE drive order by pruneau · · Score: 1

    The first pentium-based PC I bougth (a DELL P120) had a desktop case. For some reason, when I wanted to put a new HD in it, I had to try a few combinations before finding out that to boot the damn beast, I had to put the biggest HD alone on the primary controller, and the CD as a master on the secondary controller, while the other HD was the slave. Any other combination would'nt boot, period. Oh, And I had to isolate the primary HD from touching some part of the chassis, otherwise it would not boot as well. Go figure...

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    1. Re:IDE drive order by Alien54 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I remember certain hard drive brands from that era were not very compatible. Some drives were not not even compatible with other drives from the same company. Thus the odd configuration setups like you describe. Conners was one brand that was weird like that. Seagate was another, but it varied from year to year from venmdor to vendor.

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  70. Modem "Voodoo" by Deathscurge · · Score: 1

    When I was a teenager we had a computer that had one of those new fangled high speed 28.8 modems. The thing worked like a champ until one day it wouldn't dial out to connect to any BBS systems. Tried everything would could think of. Then one of us lifted the phone off of its base (yes...it was a corded phone) to listen for those classic handshake signals (you know the ones I'm talking about). The modem worked! We couldn't explain it. It turns out it would only be able to communicate with anything if we lifted the receiver and leave it off the hook. I would disconnect the handset to avoid any interference getting through; I didn't want any of my ASCII art downloads to get corrupted!

    1. Re:Modem "Voodoo" by Short+Circuit · · Score: 1

      Could be the modem was no longer capable of handling normal signal voltages.

      As for the ASCII art...didn't you use hardware error correction? Granted, it was annoying when the data transfer paused for no apparent reason, but it was usually better than getting a quick demo of the extended ASCII character set and control characters.

      BTW...Some old-school BBSes are still around. Try telnetting to grnet.com.

  71. Back in the '80s... by Assassin+bug · · Score: 1

    I had a first generation Nintendo. The game cassettes would sometimes give funky signals (flashing and such) on the screen when put in. So, I would take the cassette out and blow really hard into the cassette and then slam it back into the machine and turn it on. In most cases the game would then boot up normally. I'm sure there is a reason why it worked, but I only cared that it worked and not why.

  72. Propped-open bay? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My pal had a Dreamcast that started to give the "No disk" error even when there was a valid disk in the drive. One time, I noticed that when I went to close the bay, it would start to load for a second, but when it clicked shut it stopped and went back to the "no disk" screen. So, I stuck a spare sock in between the CD door, propping it open a half-inch, and it worked again!

    The condition gradually got worse, but if you increased the gap, it worked again for a little while...

  73. Performa 5200 and the mouse vs. network ritual. by Valdrax · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I used to have a Performa 5200 back when I started college, and if you're not familiar with the machine, it's arguably the worst Macintosh ever made. Ever. The only thing it excelled at was displaying grainy TV on the TV tuner card you could get for it.

    Read that second link for all the gory details of why the follow scenario works, and you'll shudder.

    I used to note in college that when doing particularly fast FTP transfers that saturated by 10-Base-T card that the machine would often lock up within a minute of starting the transfer. For months, I fiddled around and noticed that if I was actively working that this didn't happen. Eventually, I found the article I mentioned and realized that if I kept moving the mouse constantly, the machine wouldn't get in whatever weird state locked up the machine and I could finish my transfers. That's right -- to run FTP (or any other sustained, saturated transfer), I had to sit there moving the mouse in circles through the entire transfer.

    Essentially, the "Left 32" bus described in the article was shared by the 16-bit Apple Desktop Bus (for mouse and keyboard) and the 16-bit networking card (as well as audio and the 8-bit SCSI controller). So long as I kept interrupting the bus with input from ADB, the networking card was unable to flood the controller that had to make sense of all the different bit-widths and clock speeds between the various busses hanging off of it, and the machine wouldn't lock up.

    Now how's that for some serious computer voodoo?

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    1. Re:Performa 5200 and the mouse vs. network ritual. by sjs132 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Interesting... Back in 90 in College, I found the same thing/info... And now out of habbit, whenever my computer seems to bog down, I find myself spinning the cursor. EVEN though, I know it has NOTHING to do with current problems. It's just "back there" in my subconscience. I usually laugh when I catch myself doing this type of stuff...

      I also remember my old Tandy COCO Days with my external 300 Baud modem... I could dial into Delphi but I couldn't start pressing keys or the Term Program I wrote would freeze. So I had to wait till connection was established and got to know the tones pretty good even up to my 2400 baud modem I last had on it... To this day, When I listen to fax machines, I picture the handshake protocol while it is happening, and I HATE the fax machines that mute the tones! (I will even go up to the copier/fax unit at work and use the send immidiately, dial offhook mode so that I KNOW that it was sent and not have to bother checking for the little xfr report later...

      Of course this reference brings back another trick of mine. When I worked as a lab op in college, I worked the opening and closing shifts often. (beer right after, and passout in the lab overnight to open it up in the AM. Not always, but NOT kidding either. :) Point is that when I closed a lab, students would shut their computers off near the end of the night, and the monitors would be left on. I found that I could pick up the sound of the flyback transformers if I just closed my eyes and focused on it. So when Shutting down a lab: I'd walk in, turn out lights, listen. No monitors or computers, fine, turn around / leave & lock it. If I did hear a monitor, without opening my eyes, I could walk to it turn it off and then leave. It became a little game. Even now, if I hear a CRT that is "about to go bad" it drives me nuts because the sound just jumps out at me even in a crowded room. Haven't noticed it with LCD's yet.

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    2. Re:Performa 5200 and the mouse vs. network ritual. by vought · · Score: 1

      Now how's that for some serious computer voodoo?


      You just did a better job explaining that problem than many of Apple's response engineers could at the time.

      I worked in Customer Relations during the dark days (1995-1997) of Apple's history. No, you don't want to hear the stories about third and fourth repair visits to 5200 owners...because even the modem could cause the problem you describe. Good motherboards after bad, until the isolated and fixed the problem.

      Fortunately Apple is much better at identifying and fixing things now. Ultimately, replacing the Cache/ROM DIMM of the 5200 fixed the problem. (I'd bet five dollars that the ROM upgrade polled ADB every half-second or so...)

    3. Re:Performa 5200 and the mouse vs. network ritual. by Gideon+Fubar · · Score: 1

      and nor will you :) LCDs don't have CRTs (in merit of the fact that they are LCDs) ;) and therefore don't vibrate in the same way. I remember back in the ol' bbs days, (when i was quite, quite young) i had a similar problem to the performa bus problem with a 386, which (of course) i'd tried to upgrade myself. A new modem (ooh 19.2k.. blazing fast) is not a big deal these days, but back then was a bit stressful.. for me anyway. it was installed, and should have been working properly. however, i couldn't get it to dial or transmit a signal unless i was constantly moving the mouse around. Luckily for me, i'd just set both the mouse & modem to the same IRQ, and a more knowledgeable friend fixed the problem quite easily. have since had to deal with that exact performa issue (yeah, the tv card in them is teh sucks) but i don't believe we ever sorted out the cause. It's good to finally know exactly why the damn thing crashed every time we put it on the network.

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    4. Re:Performa 5200 and the mouse vs. network ritual. by Kankraka · · Score: 1

      Well well well.... And to think my old 'computer class' (read: basic claris works tasks and browsing the web when said tasks were complete :P) teacher thought those old Performas were perfectly fine machines! "Stop playing around with it and it won't crash" he'd say. It's sick how many people I went grade school with had an absolute hate for Apple machines after having to use the 5200's for three years.

    5. Re:Performa 5200 and the mouse vs. network ritual. by Valdrax · · Score: 1

      Interestingly, in spite of the sluggishness and the frequent crashes, I was a passionate Mac advocate back in the day. Now, with machines that never crash that have great performance, I couldn't give a flying rip about Macs anymore.

      I think it's because of how much the Classic Mac UI was important to me and to how much Mac OS X gave up all of it's advantages senselessly when they went about fixing all their disadvantages. In spite of all the hardware problems, Classic Mac OS just clicked right with me, and I've never has as productive of a desktop environment since then.

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    6. Re:Performa 5200 and the mouse vs. network ritual. by Valdrax · · Score: 1

      No, you don't want to hear the stories about third and fourth repair visits to 5200 owners...because even the modem could cause the problem you describe. Good motherboards after bad, until the isolated and fixed the problem.

      I remember hearing that, as well as the whole unterminated SCSI port nonsense. "Fortunately," I had a Jaz drive, so I didn't run into that latter one. It's good to know that they fixed it with a ROM upgrade, but can you imagine trying to explain to customers before that that they needed to jiggle their mouse because their machine was a Frankenstein monster of patched together busses?

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    7. Re:Performa 5200 and the mouse vs. network ritual. by Valdrax · · Score: 1

      Interesting... Back in 90 in College, I found the same thing/info... And now out of habbit, whenever my computer seems to bog down, I find myself spinning the cursor. EVEN though, I know it has NOTHING to do with current problems. It's just "back there" in my subconscience. I usually laugh when I catch myself doing this type of stuff...

      I find myself strangely bonded with you by the shared trauma of having owned a Performa 5200. <g>
      Fortunately, it only took me a year to shake the instinct of having my mouse around after I got my next computer.

      Even now, if I hear a CRT that is "about to go bad" it drives me nuts because the sound just jumps out at me even in a crowded room. Haven't noticed it with LCD's yet.

      Drives me crazy too. I almost can't wait until I get old enough to lose the upper range of my hearing.

      You won't hear it from LCD's though, because the noise comes from the flyback transformer that powers the electron beam. LCDs don't really have a need for the same kind of transformer since they aren't throwing tens of kilovolts into projecting the beam.

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    8. Re:Performa 5200 and the mouse vs. network ritual. by Anubis350 · · Score: 1

      I can do that bit of the monitors with the lcd screens in the lab I work at at school. I tend to work nights to closing and I can check to make sure I got all the machines by standing in the middle of the room still for a few seconds :-P

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    9. Re:Performa 5200 and the mouse vs. network ritual. by Anubis350 · · Score: 1

      really? we have old dells in the lab at school (monitors that is, new comps, old dell lcds), and I can pick up on an electric whine as clear as day

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    10. Re:Performa 5200 and the mouse vs. network ritual. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That'll be the inverter for the backlight.

    11. Re:Performa 5200 and the mouse vs. network ritual. by lahi · · Score: 1

      Wow. I feel exactly the same way. When I first encountered Macs in 1989, I had little but contempt for them, being a command line guy at heart. But they soon grew on me, and I became a student assistant of the sysadmin. Eventually took over the job. System 7 remains the greatest UI ever designed. Because it *was* designed. I remember reading the GUI guidelines in Inside Macintosh vol VI - the attention to detail, oh boy.

      I simply HATE the Mac OS X Finder - it lack all of the consistency of Direct Manipulation Interface that the original Finder had.

      A story, to be on-topic:
      At one point I was updating all machines at the department with a fresh OS install. I did that by blanking the disk and copying a new system folder (and some tools and programs) if it was a lab machine, or by additionally making a backup of all data if it was a staff machine. Booted from an external SCSI disk with room for the copy and system folders for all types of Mac. However, when I wanted to do the Macintosh II computers, for some reason the internal disk would not show up when I booted from the external disk. Just didn't show up in the SCSI chain - not even SCSIProbe would mount it. What to do? I shut down the machine, took off the lid, removed the power from the internal disk. Booted and reapplied the power, now it came up in SCSIProbe. Had to do this for all the Mac IIs. It has puzzled me ever since.

      -Lasse

    12. Re:Performa 5200 and the mouse vs. network ritual. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your post and the linked article were fascinating. I'm amazed that this computer was even able to work intermittently given its hobbled-together design.

    13. Re:Performa 5200 and the mouse vs. network ritual. by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      I was recently playing with some PowerMac 6100s (our department was throwing them out, and I was blanking and reinstalling them for someone who actually did still have a use for a few). These machines didn't turn on when you pressed the power button. They would make a little noise, and then stopped. I guessed that the power supply was being overloaded by starting everything at once, and tried bump starting them (power on for a second, power off, and then power on again). This time, they worked fine. I'm not sure if this is a problem with age, or if it happened when they were new, but I experienced exactly the same problem with a dozen of the machines.

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    14. Re:Performa 5200 and the mouse vs. network ritual. by moonbender · · Score: 1

      I feel similar, but to be honest I think it might just be looking at the past with rose-tinted glasses. Remember Error -1?

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    15. Re:Performa 5200 and the mouse vs. network ritual. by mapkinase · · Score: 1

      I hear you. I had a similar problem with all computers I have worked with. If I won't touch it for 5 minutes or so, the computer without provocation displays some stupid irrelevant picture, like flying night stars or overdrawn fish tank. Moving the mouse helps in this case too!

      You are welcome.

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    16. Re:Performa 5200 and the mouse vs. network ritual. by tverbeek · · Score: 1

      When I'm waiting for a computer to do something, I just spin the mouse pointer around to entertain myself. It may not help the machine work any better, but it helps pass the time.

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    17. Re:Performa 5200 and the mouse vs. network ritual. by Valdrax · · Score: 1

      Huh. I've never heard that sound from an LCD before, but I know it's not due to the same cause becausse LCDs have absolutely no reason to have a flyback transformer (which gets the name "flyback" from how it paints the beam across the screen).

      Not having heard it, I'll just have to say that maybe the AC who responded is right. I've never investigated the matter.

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    18. Re:Performa 5200 and the mouse vs. network ritual. by /dev/trash · · Score: 1

      I had a friend who had a Mac SE that at least 3 times crashed so bad it displayed a C:\ prompt.

    19. Re:Performa 5200 and the mouse vs. network ritual. by tinkerghost · · Score: 1

      Mine wasn't that bad, but I had a PowerTower from powerPC - built on the Apple 7200 MB IIRC. My issue was always the SCSI setup. I had a ZIP drive & a scanner. If the scanner was on the left side of the desk, it had to go PC => ZIP => Scanner. Moving the scanner to the right side of the desk required PC => Scanner => Zip. Cable changes and even renumbering the hardware had no effect.

  74. Steel wool over the expansion slots. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is a great way to haunt a computer.

    Take out all the cards, rub some fine steel wool above it. Put the cards back in.

    Turn the computer on. It will not boot (there were thousands of shorts, but they all burned up once voltage was applied).

    Power off, power on. It should boot. No tiptoe away. Any vibration will cause it to lock hard or reset (in any OS).

    It will get a little better over time. In some cheap companys you wind up with everybody walking around like theres a cake that will fall.

    Laughing at the memory. It's good to be evil.

  75. Powersupply fun by Tetrad69 · · Score: 1

    I once had a PSU that whenever the computer got nudged (and since I had the box on top of dresser drawers it got banged around a lot) the computer would shut off.

    Eventually I unscrewed the PSU and put it on the top of the case upside-down. From then on until I replaced it it was solid as a rock. I guess a fan was slightly out of wack or something.

  76. Divide by zero by mjmeyer · · Score: 1

    Back in 1993 (all the way until 1998) I had a recurring quirk with my 386SX and Windows 3.1. If I loaded the drivers for my Sound Blaster 2 and enabled 256 colors, I would randomly (about 50% of the time) get a "Divide by zero" error when Windows launched. It would dump me back at the command prompt, where I would continue to type "WIN.COM" until it finally loaded. Once Windows loaded, it was fine until the next reboot. Sometimes it would load on the very first try. This problem survived several reformats of the hard drive, and a couple upgrades of DOS. There was no discernible pattern to when it would occur, so I just tolerated it until I upgraded to a Pentium II in 1998.

    1. Re:Divide by zero by Festering+Leper · · Score: 1

      i've had things like that happen as well ... usually it was traced back to the trident video drivers :)

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  78. Mysterious Reset by keithpreston · · Score: 0

    The weirdest problem I've ever seen was after my brother replaced his motherboard one time, if you slightly touched any part of the machine it would reboot immediately. It took me two hours to finally solve this problem. I tested each and every component to find they were all good. There was an extra mounting post remaining from his motherboard change and apparently it was in the right place to short out the motherboard enough to resest with the slightest of movements.

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  80. Installing Windows! by sc0p3 · · Score: 1

    Installing windows on a dodgy machine, only way to keep the system from hanging was to click the mouse constantly, not not too much. Too much and it crashed anyway,

    Of course it was a 486 so install took hours. But windows got installed in the end.

  81. smacking the monitor by beaverfever · · Score: 1

    "But I never smack the monitor. What good will that do?"

    It will do good if your monitor happens to be going flakey.

  82. How come no one has mentioned.... by tonyr1988 · · Score: 1

    Blowing in the Nintendo game consoles over and over and over again to get them working?

    1. Re:How come no one has mentioned.... by dkarma · · Score: 1

      OMG you read my mind...that wasn't supposed to work, but when my little bro did it w/ his patented blow the cart, tap it 5 times blow it again then gently slide it just over the lip it worked every time!!!

      Classic.

      As for a PC, I've never had to do anything remotely like that...call me lucky I guess. The closest I've come is crossing my fingers every time teh pc boots to Windoze... :P

  83. timing the boot CD by Chris+Snook · · Score: 1

    For a long time, I had a computer that had an impatient BIOS and a lazy CD-ROM drive. The drive would take much, much longer to spin up than the BIOS would wait for data. If you booted up the system with the CD in the drive, the CD would spin up at poweron, then spin down immediately after reaching full speed with no requests pending, and when the BIOS got around to checking it for boot media, it would time out before it finished spinning up again and started reading. The window of opportunity for inserting the CD and having it be recognized was only about a second long. I found that if I inserted the CD right after the BIOS reported the results of scanning the primary IDE channel, while it was scanning the secondary IDE channel, it almost always got to the "scan CD-ROM boot sector" phase right as the drive was hitting full speed, and I could boot from the CD.

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  84. More than the usual number lights go out around me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The street lights are always shutting off just as I get to them. I get a lot of blown incandescent bulbs when I flip them on. Mechanical watches always used to quit on me. I mess with over the air tv and radio reception.

    No idea why.

  85. The cause and solution to all of life's problems.. by SimplyI · · Score: 2, Funny

    defenestration!

  86. Compiling by FLAGGR · · Score: 1

    Sometimes I go to compile something (on Mac OSX with gcc) and it will give me some silly errors. Later I'll go back and try it again for kicks and it works. It's happened many times, and I try to block any ration explanations because it gives me an excuse for when my own code doesn't compile (solar interference? could be)

    1. Re:Compiling by smash · · Score: 1

      This is a symptom of dodgy memory, according to the GCC documentation (or what WAS in there).

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    2. Re:Compiling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sometimes I go to compile something (on Mac OSX with gcc) and it will give me some silly errors. Later I'll go back and try it again for kicks and it works.

      Maybe you ran out of space in your swapfile? This happens a lot with the -pipe flag, which allows gcc to compile and assemble straight to RAM, before the on-disk linking. Add more swap space or remove any -pipe flags from the Makefile.

  87. Apple ][ 5.25" disk duplication voodoo by danberlyoung · · Score: 1

    Long ago making an "archival backup" of your 5.25" copy protected disk required more voodoo than science. Many times a copy wouldn't take no matter what parameters or copy program you used. The trick that I used was to carefully turn the media inside the envelope until a small hole in the media lined up with a hole in the envelope. This was used by some old Schugart(sp?) mechanisms to synchronize the read head to the media. The Apple ][ mechanism didn't use this method and the hole was completely ignored. By lining up the hole in the source and the destination disk and then making the copy, it would work.

  88. Dusty interior? by Short+Circuit · · Score: 1

    Was it a Presario 2100?

    My brother had that problem with WoW on this laptop. Don't think he ever tried opening the CD-ROM drive, though. He's "given" it to me so long as I lose weight. (40 lbs down and counting. Woohoo!)

    For a good while, I ran it underclocked to 1.06GHz from the max of 1.79GHz. Then I had a friend service a bad part on it, and found out what the problem was. The inside of the system was caked with dust, with the fans and heat sink being especially bad. He cleaned all that crap out, and now the system runs happily at full speed.

    1. Re:Dusty interior? by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

      Well, from what I remember, it was a Compaq, but probably an older model. AMD K-500 or something if I remember correctly.

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  89. Speaking of hard drives by wurp · · Score: 4, Interesting

    My dad works for the Arkansas Washington County Road Service, and he is something of a computer nut, so he would 'recover' the computers they were throwing out. I was pretty profoundly poor and also a computer nut, so I would take some of the stuff off his hands.

    Anyway, I used to have three or four MFM hard drives in various states of disrepair. (I think they were 40 *meg* hard drives, but I only had a controller to control up to 20 meg, to give an idea how old this hardware was.) One by one they died, until finally only one was left. When it gave up the ghost, it would spin up, then immediately spin back down. I dug into it and found some connections I could short across while it was spinning up and then break the connection, and it would keep running. I was too poor to want to go spend $1 on a pushbutton, so I just had two wires hanging out of the front of the computer that I held together while booting the PC. I ran it that way for over a year...

    A non-computer story, but more interesting one, is of an old Ford Escort I used to have. The starter went out on it, and, again, I was poor, so I dug into it. I finally figured out that the relay was kicking out too far and shorting out against the housing, so I duct taped a kitchen sponge to the inside of the relay housing and put it back together. I never had a problem with the starter again for the 2 years I had the car.

    That same car later had the fuel pump go out. When it went out, I asked my stepdad if I should check to make sure the pump was out instead of a wiring or power problem, and he said nah, it's the pump. So I bought a replacement - it didn't help. So, I hunted around under the hood until I found some leads that were hot when the key was on, but not when it was off, and I used ties to secure an extension cord from the leads to the fuel pump. The car ran fine.

    That was in the summer. When winter came along, one day I needed to defrost the front window as I was driving down the road. I flipped the vent from dash to defrost, and the engine stopped running. (I was doing 50 mph down the road at the time.) I flipped it back to vent, and the engine started right back up again.

    Somehow I had found a wire that only gave power when the vent was not on defrost. I never fixed it, just kept the inside warm enough that it didn't frost over.

    Now I'm a software developer and not poor. I virtually never fix (or jerry rig) anything myself, other than software and the occasional computer hardware issue.

    1. Re:Speaking of hard drives by Lord+Kano · · Score: 1

      My first car was a 1986 Camaro. I soon discovered that the car was prone to overheating if it was moving slower than 25mph. I discovered the overheating problem when the radiator exploded. I replaced the radiator. Through much hunting (and with my girlfriend's dad's help) I discovered a broken solder trace on the relay board that controlled the fan. Less than a penny's worth of solder fixed it. But only after I blew a radiator and paid ~$350 to replace the heater core.

      LK

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    2. Re:Speaking of hard drives by Voice+of+Meson · · Score: 1

      Ha! Fantastic.

      I'm not sure if you are on the same models as we have here in Australia but I had until recently a Ford Escort 1978. Classic piece of machinery. I would leave the thing completly unsecured because I was sure that no one else but myself could start the thing, let alone drive it.

      I would twist bits, lean on bits and hit bits with a hammer to get that thing going and keep it running. In four years the most money I spent on it was for new tires. Don't you just love a car that you can actually service yourself? Now I, like you, am a paid member of the programming community and I have a car than I dare not open the hood for fear of voiding the warranty.

      I miss that piece of shit. Best car I will ever own. Sold it and ran like hell!

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    3. Re:Speaking of hard drives by wurp · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I liked the car fine. My wife, however, didn't much care for it. It was underpowered and as you said, prone to need massaging just to keep it running at all.

      So, anyway, another "feature" of this car was that the pneumatic arm for the hatchback was out, so we kept a sawn off broomhandle in the hatch to prop up the hatchback. One day, about 95 degrees out and 95% humidity, the car just stalled while my wife was driving down the road. She was 6 months pregnant and I was in Virginia, as we were in the process of moving and I started my job early. So, she got out of the car and opened the hatch to get the broomstick. Her intention was to beat the car with the stick until she felt better!

      Just then, someone pulled off the road to help her, so she just politely accepted their offer and put the stick back. They got her going again. She didn't mention her intentions to them, although she and I got a good laugh out of it later.

    4. Re:Speaking of hard drives by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow. Thanks for the laugh, and the memories it brought back. Southern engineering at its finest.

  90. Most of it is Microsoft... by evilviper · · Score: 2, Informative

    The large majority of "computer voodoo" is because of Microsoft's buggy crapware...

    Back in the DOS days, people were convinced things worked better if they left the power off for long periods of time, before restarting.

    Windows got more complex, and had too many of those things to name. Hitting the tower is a popular one. Moving the mouse around while waiting to prevent lock-ups is another very popular one. There are certainly millions of them. Linux, too, has developed a few, because some drivers are iffy, but they make up the tiniest fraction of what you see with Windows zombies (aka. users).

    When I'm helping someone with a Windows system (I keep that as rare an event as possible), I still see similar nonsense. Windows XP's setup will allow me to partition hard drives #1 and #2, but WON'T let me format them there, and I have to put them in another system to do that part. Not to mention all the drivers that will just corrupt themselves after working fine for 3 months, if you just LOOK at the system funny. It's no wonder voodoo is so popular with Windows systems (and pre-OSX Macs, to be fair).

    .
    With that said, I have seen some frustrating hardware problems. After 6 months of working without any problem, my always-on Linux system starts crashing every day for 3 days, and then won't start up... Typical crappy power supply (bloated capacitor).

    I had a Charter cable modem which would work whenever the tech guys were here (I called them out a dozen times over 2 months), but would fail miserably just moments after they'd step out the door. It took me a while before I realized that the thing would work for amout 5 minutes after it was power-cycled, and only then would it crash. They would never take my word for it, and I had to cancel my service to get rid of that piece of shit.

    I've seen a few network cables, which test-out just fine, and work most of the time, but after the machine has been online for a while, it will fail, and need to be rebooted... This is partially Windows voodoo, because the stack is unstable, and can't handle many errors. But mainly, it's because of cables with marginal connections, which work about 95% of the time, enough to pass tests, but cause all sorts of problems in real-world use.

    Then there are the occasional network cables with crosstalk, which can be hard to diagnose if you don't have an advanced/expensive meter, and give many of the same symptoms as above.

    There was one case where a guy would play music CDs for an hour, before they started skipping. He changed CD-ROM after CD-ROM, before asking for my help. It was pretty obvious when I saw the sheer ammount of lint in his system fans. It would run fine while the system was cool, but the fans not spinning would drive the tempurature up to insane levels shortly, and the CD-ROM was just the first part to show symptoms.

    Another Windows one is IE's download dialog... It takes so long before it appears, that when it starts there is already a few KBs downloaded, so it claims a 500KB/sec download rate on a dial-up modem, and only gradually goes down to about 4K, as it's really doing. People think that's accurate, and actually come up with the great idea of stopping and restarting downloads several times every minute, presumably because the server or their ISP will only allow them to download "fast" when the download first starts.

    God I hate Microsoft...

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    1. Re:Most of it is Microsoft... by asuffield · · Score: 1
      Another Windows one is IE's download dialog... It takes so long before it appears, that when it starts there is already a few KBs downloaded, so it claims a 500KB/sec download rate on a dial-up modem, and only gradually goes down to about 4K, as it's really doing. People think that's accurate, and actually come up with the great idea of stopping and restarting downloads several times every minute, presumably because the server or their ISP will only allow them to download "fast" when the download first starts.


      And just to confuse the issue further, some ISPs *do* do this, because it means web browsing goes fast while downloading is throttled. It's a sign of a cheap traffic shaper, though - smart ISPs use ones which aren't susceptible to such trivial attacks.

      That's why people keep doing stuff like this: it works in just enough cases to maintain the myth. I wouldn't call it "voodoo" though - what we're talking about here is pure cargo-cult behaviour.
    2. Re:Most of it is Microsoft... by glesga_kiss · · Score: 1
      The large majority of "computer voodoo" is because of Microsoft's buggy crapware...

      It's more likely a result of your attitude.

      Moving the mouse around while waiting to prevent lock-ups is another very popular one.

      No, moving the mouse is to see if it's locked up _yet_. Another one is to move the windows about to see the state of the system e.g. if the GPU is doing redraws correctly.

      Not to mention all the drivers that will just corrupt themselves after working fine for 3 months, if you just LOOK at the system funny.

      I have three XP systems at home and seven at work. Each has been going for at least two years. That's 80 three-month periods and I've never seen this once.

      Another Windows one is IE's download dialog... It takes so long before it appears, that when it starts there is already a few KBs downloaded, so it claims a 500KB/sec download rate on a dial-up modem

      That's not whats happening. When you click on the link, it starts downloading instantly. It then presends you with the save-as dialog. This is really useful IMHO as the file is partially downloaded by the time you decide where to dump it. If it's taking three minutes to download on dialup, I'll gladly accept a 30-second reduction in that via this system. Yes, it confuses users, but how many of those users refer to the beige box as "the hard drive"? :-) Confusing them is like shooting fish in a barrel.

    3. Re:Most of it is Microsoft... by LaughingCoder · · Score: 1

      The large majority of "computer voodoo" is because of Microsoft's buggy crapware...

      Hmmm, the large majority of your examples were non-Microsoft hardware problems ... odd, that.

      After 6 months of working without any problem, my always-on Linux system starts crashing every day for 3 days

      So this would be Microsoft's Linux distro?

      I had a Charter cable modem which would work whenever the tech guys were here ... but would fail miserably just moments after they'd step out the door

      I didn't know Miscrosoft bought Charter? Did you mean it was a Microsoft cable modem?

      I've seen a few network cables, which test-out just fine, and work most of the time, but after the machine has been online for a while, it will fail

      Last time I checked MS did not manufacture network cables ...

      Then there are the occasional network cables with crosstalk, which can be hard to diagnose ...

      Ditto.

      It was pretty obvious when I saw the sheer ammount of lint in his system fans.

      Ahhh .. so maybe Microsoft forgot to run "lint" on their code? [sorry, bad nerd pun]

      Another Windows one is IE's download dialog... It takes so long before it appears

      Finally a real MS "problem", except as others have pointed out by other responders to your rant, it's not really a problem - the download is happening in the background (which is a good thing).

      God I hate religious wars. ;-)

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    4. Re:Most of it is Microsoft... by mkw87 · · Score: 1
      When I'm helping someone with a Windows system (I keep that as rare an event as possible), I still see similar nonsense. Windows XP's setup will allow me to partition hard drives #1 and #2, but WON'T let me format them there, and I have to put them in another system to do that part.
      Boot into the recovery console first, format the drive(s) of choice, restart and go into setup, install windows. Much faster than pulling the drive and placing it in another machine.
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    5. Re:Most of it is Microsoft... by evilviper · · Score: 1
      Hmmm, the large majority of your examples were non-Microsoft hardware problems ... odd, that.

      English language 101 for LaughingCoder.

      All paragraphs that happen to be in close approximation to each other, do NOT have to ALL be about the same subject. You do NOT have to compose two seperate posts, to write about two seperate subjects. You can change the subject with a transition or segway sentence. For example:

      With that said, I have seen some frustrating hardware problems.

      There, now isn't that better? Surely, now, the next time you see a post which changes subjects, you won't go trolling again, complaining that half their post didn't have anything to do with the intro sentence.

      it's not really a problem - the download is happening in the background

      Yes, I said as much in my post. The problem is that IE shows complete nonsense as the current average speed, which NO OTHER BROWSERS DO, even though they download in the background as well.

      God I hate religious wars. ;-)

      And I hate idiots, morons, and trolls.
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    6. Re:Most of it is Microsoft... by LaughingCoder · · Score: 1

      You started your post (and titled it) claiming "most of it is Microsoft". You ended it with "God I hate Microsoft". And yet the entire content had nothing to do with Microsoft? And I am the one needing remedial English lessons? Put away your irrational biases and learn to write a coherent, persuasive post, with examples and facts that support your thesis.

      God I hate people with cluttered minds.

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  91. AI Koan by Pupp3tM · · Score: 1
    Reminds me of the old AI koan:
    A novice was trying to fix a broken lisp machine by turning the
    power off and on. Knight, seeing what the student was doing spoke
    sternly- "You can not fix a machine by just power-cycling it with no
    understanding of what is going wrong."
        Knight turned the machine off and on.
        The machine worked.
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  92. Also by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 2, Informative

    Just running the diag tools provided from the company is often a good solution. It will check the drive, and recover the data when it can. Failing that you can always try Spinright from GRC. It's not the magic tool Gibson sells it as, but it can recover drives nothign else can. Take the drive, set it near a good fan, and let Spinrite at it. You'll either have your data, or a totally worthless drive. So try other recovery methods first.

    1. Re:Also by Captain+Splendid · · Score: 1

      A second vote here for Spinrite. It may not be magic, but it's certainly made me more money than the 50 bucks I spent on it.

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      Linux, you magnificent bastard, I read the fucking manual!
  93. Voodoo Serial Ports by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I used to manage a set of 5 Pr1me computers that contained 16-port intelligent (for the time) serial cards. Our offices were way in the back, far exceeding the valid RS232 cable lengths, and some cables that we built were longer than needed, so they were coiled under the floor.

    Well, occasionally someone's terminal would get into a position where you ended up with reflections on the line and the terminal card would spew crap to the terminal and the out-of-spec cable would bounce the signal from the terminal back to the controller. After a few of these we figured out that if you changed the characteristics of the cable just-a-bit and then flush the buffers, the cable would settle down. Several folks tried just the flush-the-buffer approach, but that never worked. The first character that you typed sent it into a tizzy again.

    Well, I had a new guy (Arnold Robbins at Georgia Tech, for those of you that know him) working with me and we got one of these. I told him, "Let me show you how we earn our money around here", and proceeded to track the cable and find the section under the floor where it was coiled up. I picked up the cable coil, shook it around a little bit and changed the way it was coiled and then dropped it back under the floor and replaced the tile. I then went over to the console and flushed the buffer and said, "that should do it." He's looking completely goofy about now and asked, "what did you just do?" I told him that it was plain 'ol black magic and why we learned a lot of practical things in the middle of all the theory so we could get the job done while other folks were telling us that shouldn't work.

    It was beautiful thing.

    OK, geek reminiscence over. Time to get back to work...

  94. I had a 19" CRT that would only work on its' side by syukton · · Score: 1

    I had a 19" CRT (I can't remember the manufacturer) that started to go bad in a very peculiar fashion. It started by making a high-pitched whining noise regardless of the screen resolution. I was able to fix this problem by propping the screen up on the left (thereby tilting it to the right a couple degrees). This worked...for a time.

    Eventually, I came home from work one day and the screen was blank. I tilted the screen even further, and it eventually came on. I couldn't work at a 45-degree angle, though, so I fully laid the screen down on its right side. My Geforce Ti4200 card's drivers did thankfully have a functionality for distorting the desktop screen (nvkeystone I think it was called), so I was able to continue using the monitor, laying on its side, for another four months. The thing did eventually die, and I replaced it with a a 17" NEC LCD which is still serving me (actually my parents) very well.

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    Reinvent the wheel only at either a lower cost, greater effectiveness, or your own personal enrichment and satisfaction.
  95. The best way to fix the PC-problem is to get a Mac by AriaStar · · Score: 1

    I said it. There!

  96. Witch Craft and Computers by Alien54 · · Score: 1

    I remember coming across an actual online article for computer using witches that warned about the dangers of casting spells while in the proximity to your computer. There was also a section on spells to keep out computer viruses, etc. I sent the article off to someone once, but the email got lost in a purge onetime. I would love to have it back as it would make a great scene in a movie somplace.

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    "It is a greater offense to steal men's labor, than their clothes"
    1. Re:Witch Craft and Computers by Alien54 · · Score: 2, Funny
      --
      "It is a greater offense to steal men's labor, than their clothes"
    2. Re:Witch Craft and Computers by rbochan · · Score: 1

      Your slashdot membership card has been revoked for posting a link to a dvorak article. Who do you think you are... Zonk?

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      ...Rob
      The American Dream isn't an SUV and a house in the suburbs; it's Don't Tread On Me.
    3. Re:Witch Craft and Computers by Alien54 · · Score: 1
      except I find the article was by David Coursey. And of course, the original article is not available online these days, only various snippets and quotes.

      [shrug]

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      "It is a greater offense to steal men's labor, than their clothes"
  97. ....Obvious Answer by trainsnpep · · Score: 4, Funny

    What wacky stuff have you done that makes no obvious sense, but just works?

    Ask Slashdot.

    (...though I'm not quite sure it works...)

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    --<Mike>--
  98. Ever heard of DFI? by hrrY · · Score: 1

    If you ever thought you did crazy stuff to get something working just get 1 of these Nforce 4 Lan Party motherboards and mix it with some Corsair or Kingston RAM...I promise you that you'll have a situation that is no less deserving than a witch doctor's intervention.

  99. failed hard drives by matt328 · · Score: 1

    One day one of my servers at a remote location 'died'. One user who claimed to be pretty computer savvy reported that the machine wasn't seeing its hard drive anymore, it was giving invalid boot device error messages. Sure enough, I could tell the hard drive wasn't even spinning up. I pulled the drive out, asked the secretary to slap it, reinstalled it, and the server booted. Without a word I strolled out of the office. The self proclaimed 'computer savvy' user still tells tales of how I 'bitch slapped' the server into repairing itself. Incidentally the machine has been working fine for 9 months now.

    I wonder what they would have thought if my next step, putting the drive in the freezer, would have fixed it? To the untrained user, anything us geeks can do to fix a computer is considered nothing short of magic.

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    Check out the cave on the east side of lake Hylia. Strange and wonderful things live in it.
    1. Re:failed hard drives by kofrad · · Score: 1

      a friend of mine had a computer, he had it off for around a month while on vacation. he got back, turned it on, everything works. it then froze up and would no longer boot. i went over to take a look at it and the bios wasnt showing any harddrives in the machine at all. i opened up the case, dusted it out, looked for any loose connections, found none. i was confused as to why i got the error in the first place, but i plugged it in after only dusting it out and it has worked fine ever since. i explained how i fixed the drive as it being afraid of me and working because of that.

  100. Punching it by springbox · · Score: 1

    I used to have a pretty bad CD-ROM drive in a server that would spin down while reading for no apparent reason. I eventually found out (probably because I accidently bumped it) that smacking the face of the drive HARD a few times would not only cause it to make some interesting buzzing and wobbling noises, but it would eventually spin back up and continue to read data.

    1. Re:Punching it by Novus · · Score: 1

      One of my older machines has a 24x CD-ROM drive with an odd tendency to refuse to stay closed (no matter how I close the tray, it pops out again after a few seconds). The solution to that problem turned out to be to forcefully hold the tray shut for about half a second when it tries to eject. After that, it closes just fine and reads CDs without any trouble for quite a while.

      That drive replaced a 4x one with a tendency to spin down and cause a timeout before it managed to get started again (especially on CD-R disks; it didn't read CD-RW) which resulted in a rather interesting Linux installation process: boot machine; press [Pause] while CD drive spins up and reads CD; unpause to allow boot sequence to start; during installation process, every time CD activity stops, switch to a command prompt and start copying random files from CD to /dev/null to keep the drive from spinning down.

    2. Re:Punching it by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1
      On the subject of CD weirdness, the CD drive in my ThinkPad behaves a bit oddly. For some reason, it won't spin up a CD that is inserted (and so the OS won't notice a CD has been added, and won't be able to access it). The solution is to spin the disk in the tray, and insert it with the disk still spinning[1].

      The really surprising thing is that it doesn't seem to make a difference which direction you spin the disk; as long as it's spinning when it goes in then it will work. The motors complain if you spin it the wrong way though...

      [1] This being a laptop, the 'tray' is, in fact, most of the CD drive.

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      I am TheRaven on Soylent News
    3. Re:Punching it by AI0867 · · Score: 0

      I have a similar problem with an old CD drive, it started years ago, it would reject CDs entered randomly, the chance of it accepting a CD went constantly down, but besides that, it functioned perfectly.

      during an upgrade, I replaced the CPU, mobo and memory, only original components inside the case that were still left were the floppy drive, CD drive, GPU and PSU.

      due to the mobo upgrade windows spectacularly failed to boot, as expected. problems started here, the (original) windows XP pro CD failed to be inserted into the drive for about a week, after that, BIOS didn't see it was bootable, knoppix ran fine instantly, fedora core 3 installed fine, debian would have worked fine if the netinstall hadn't failed miserably (didn't recognize the onboard ethernet), gentoo also worked fine.
      I borrowed a perfectly working CD drive from someone else, replaced the old one with it, exact same problem, closer inspection revealed it to be of the same type.
      A new XP cd with SP2 on it would read after several tries, but crashed while booting every time, doing nothing besides ruining the MBR.

  101. First pc by dysan27 · · Score: 1

    My first PC started dying on boot, not even geting to post. It sounded like it was working but is still seemed dead as a doorknob, not even a beep code.

    So pokeing around inside I switched the RAM slot and it worked. For a week, and again started dying on boot. So I switched the RAM slot again. Started up fine, for a week or two. Went on like this for a couple of months. Some times not even switching the RAM, just pulling an reinserting it.

    I finaly realied that it wasn't the RAM, but the power supply that had a losse connection in it. Every time I switched the RAM I would jostle the power cables. Replace the PS and every thing worked fine.

  102. Side Panel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I used to have a problem where after I would format my HD, after the new OS was installed, the computer would freeze while it was booting up. The solution was to take off the side panel, boot it up (always worked), then __slowly__ put the panel back on. I only had this problem after a fresh install.

  103. Hard drive on Ice by GroinSniper · · Score: 1, Interesting

    My favorite thing to freak users out is when their drive refuses to boot (the clicking death type, not the scraping heads of destruction type), I place the drive in the freezer over night. Next morning it usually boots fine and lives long enough for me to ghost the data off.

  104. bios not detecting hard drive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One of my computers had a problem detecting hard drives attached to the primary ATA controller. So my dad blames lilo and linux, and comes up with this weird key combination to boot windows. Of course it does nothing, because the hard drives are detected by the bios before linux is even loaded.

  105. Not a computer story per se by OBeardedOne · · Score: 1

    I have an uncanny knack for fixing most things through simple sheer luck, trial and error and plenty of physical encouragement. (Seemingly far more than most people). I think my biggest triumph was fixing a friends phone line when it had been kicked out of the wall socket. The 7 or so wires had been ripped from their connections. I wedged the phone between my ear and shoulder and randomly attached the connections while listening for a dial tone. Much to my own surprise, I got a dial tone after about 15 minutes of stuffing around with it with only 4 of the 7 wires attached. I got my mobile and called the landline number, it rang, and it actually worked - I could hear myself and talk through both the mobile and landline. I then called my mobile from the landline just to make sure and that worked too. That was the really surprising part because unbeknownst to me at the time the landline had a block on outgoing calls. I can only assume some of the wires that weren't attached were responsible for the call blocking feature ( I wouldn't know, I know nothing about the tech behind phone systems!) Being a University pad, everyone used the newly "unblocked" phone to make an enormous amount of phone calls, international calls included - expecting that they wouldn't be charged. Apparently they didn't get charged, but there was a rumor that they did. I never did find out because I had a falling out with my friend not long after. If you want to try this then be careful when stripping the wires from the wall socket with your teeth (the line had an extension from the wall). I was unfortunate to have a wire poke up my nostril while another was in my mouth and received quite an unexpected jolt to my face! Who knew there was enough power running through a phone line to give you a shock...

    1. Re:Not a computer story per se by surprise_audit · · Score: 1
      Who knew there was enough power running through a phone line to give you a shock...

      Supposedly, there's enough power to kill you, if it gets you just right. So, don't use a corded phone while in the bath. Of course, that might just be advertising spin from the cordless phone manufacturers... :)

    2. Re:Not a computer story per se by Short+Circuit · · Score: 1

      When I was a teenager (and for a couple years after I turned 18), I was the primary phone tech guy for the family business, an ISP. I wasn't the one to receive the worst, call, fortunately...that pain fell to my mother, who was the other phone tech.

      Here's a rough transcript of that conversation:

      "Cyberspace, this is Darcy"

      "Yeah, I'm having problems getting on the Internet."

      swish

      "OK, what error message does it give you?"

      slorsh

      "Uh, I don't know."

      "Can you try connecting and call me back?"

      "Yeah, sure. Let me get out of the tub."

      slorsh, swish, dripdribble

  106. Homemade "Apple" Intel by RESPAWN · · Score: 4, Funny

    I had (still have, actually) this old Compaq Presario computer with a Pentium 200 MMX processor. The thing was never the most stable computer out there and was a pain in the but to work on, having non-standard screws and proprietay memory, as most Compaqs of that era did. One day I realized that I had a bunch of old hard drives lying around, so I decide to make this Compaq into a makeshift file server by adding the two larger drives in to the machine and brought it to school with my at the start of my Senior year. The machine's sole purpose was to act as a file server AND as a second internet/instant messaging terminal that I could use when my primary desktop was otherwise engaged. The machine didn't do this well as it seemed to suffer a 25% random reboot rate while using it. (Windows 98, couldn't even get Linux to come close to running on it.) This wasn't really any different from the sort of behavior it had shown since the day we purchased it, shortly after the MMX processors were released, so I just put up with it until...

    One day I'm playing Serious Sam over the LAN with some friends. There's a brief lull in the action and so I reach over for the 1 gallon bottle of apple juice I was drinking from. Well, instead of picking up the apple juice, I tip it over and the entire contents spill out ON TOP OF the Compaq. I of course, immediately jump in to disaster recovery mode and race to the kitchen to grab the paper towels. I start cleaning up the mess, expecting the wrost for the Compaq in the process. I could see where there was apple juice in all of the little crevices and I'm darn sure some of it actually got into the computer. Some had spilled on to some school papers lying next to the machine and I wanted to make sure I didn't lose any notes so I took plenty of time to salvage those papers.

    After I finished cleaning up the mess, I check the computer. Mouse and keyboard input seem OK. I start up Winamp and it seems to work OK. I run scandisk on all of the drives and they all report being OK. I can't find a single thing wrong with this computer. And I'll be damned if that computer didn't have a single random reboot after I spilled apple juice on it. It became the object of admiration and jokes amongst my friends, and one friend even managed to find one of those fruity, rainbow colored Apple Computer stickers that he wanted me to put on the case. I never even bothered to open up the computer to asses the damages (partly becuase I was lazy and didn't have a torx screw driver at school). Truth be told, I was afraid to even move the comptuer or otherwise disturb it since it seemed to be working OK.

    A quick addendum to this story... right before graduation I purchased another hard drive for my primary desktop machine that was about 4 times the total capacity of the drives in the apple computer. I copied all of my data off the apple computer on to this drive and pretty much relegated the apple solely to web surfing detail. About a year and a half later, I need another hard drive for a client machine and so I decide to finally open the apple computer to raid one of the hard drives in it. I was even more amazed then that the computer still worked. There was brown, sticky apple juice residue on everything in the computer. There was even a puddle of this gooey gel that had pooled at the bottom of the case. It was all over the cables, the drives, everything. I was even more surprised and even a little bit proud that the computer still worked after that ordeal.

    I guess that just goes to show: if you want a stable computer, get an Apple. ;)

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    If Murphy's Law can go wrong, it will.

    1. Re:Homemade "Apple" Intel by Spit · · Score: 1

      Dry joints.

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      POKE 36879,8
  107. Those poor interns... by Chabil+Ha' · · Score: 4, Funny

    We wrote a script once that would gradually slow down the mouse pointer. We installed it on the interns computers and watched them get frustrated when their mouse pointer wouldn't move. We explained to them that they had to unplug the mouse, swing the plug end rapidly around their heads, and then plug it back in, and it would be fixed.

    We would conspiciously watch from quite a few cubes away and watch this mice get whipped around in the air! It was the most hilarous thing we've ever seen! You'd think that they wouldn't buy it, but when push came to shove they did it and it worked for them after looking like fools!

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    We're all hypocrites. We all have hidden parts, it's the contrast between them that make us more a hypocrite than others
  108. ACER Widescreen Monitor fuzzyness by FizixMan · · Score: 1

    I got a widescreen LCD monitor from Acer at work. I believe it's the 2016W model, but I could be wrong; going from memory. But here's the weird thing. I have it set exactly to their specifications in terms of resolution and refresh rate and whatnot, but the screen looks very fuzzy and blurry. On bootup it starts at the recommended 60hz, but if I set it to 85hz (from the recommended 60), it still looks blurry. At the prompt asking me whether or not to keep the setting, I say "no" and it restores it back to my 60... at which point looks crystal clear. I have to do it everytime I boot up. Not just that computer/graphics card either. The monitor used to be on another system of ours, different OS, different graphics card, and I had to do the exact same procedure. >

  109. My wacky fix-it moment by Spacejock · · Score: 1

    I removed Windows from a server and installed Linux. It's worked just fine ever since, and the next time I have the same problem I just know the same wacky fix will do the trick.

    1. Re:My wacky fix-it moment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or you could learn how to properly setup and run a Windows server...

  110. My first computer... by Josiah_Bradley · · Score: 0

    To get my first computer going I would have to first unlock the door and find the power "wires" and touch one of them to the PSU. Then i'd have to manually spin the main 120mm with my finger to get it spinning. (I just wish I didn't do it at night, that was one bad cut) Then I'd put on the headphones to try and save my hearing from the 60db beast so I could use it. Then I'd have to jiggle the RAM while the computer was on to get windows to detect the second stick, after that the wire for the fan would fall out and id have to try and push it back into the molex connector. By that time I'm sure I had done something to windows and would need to reformat. Ahh I miss that old thing.

  111. Printer - mouse by darkonc · · Score: 1
    Back around 1995, I was working on a win3.11 machine with a printer attached to it. I added some memory to the printer and configured it so that it knew about the extra memory. This caused the mouse to stop working. When I reconfigured the printer to think that it had the smaller memory size, the mouse worked again.

    I yanked the extra memory and just left the printer that way.

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    Sometimes boldness is in fashion. Sometimes only the brave will be bold.
  112. Back in the days of DOS and config.sys by snoggeramus · · Score: 2, Funny

    It was always handy to add a BUGS=OFF line.

  113. Percussive Maintenance by MichaelKaiserProScri · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I had a friend have a hard drive that simply would not spin up. He REALLY needed the data off that drive. After about 6 hours of messing with it, he picked it up in frustration and slammed it against the desk. Well, it spun up. He didn't ask any questions, but IMMEDIATLY "Ghosted" the drive to another one. The drive lived through the "Ghost" and never started again. And the data was mostly OK.

    1. Re:Percussive Maintenance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the lubricant in the drive's bearings had congealed. banging it good and hard broke them free.

    2. Re:Percussive Maintenance by glesga_kiss · · Score: 1
      he picked it up in frustration and slammed it against the desk. Well, it spun up. He didn't ask any questions, but IMMEDIATLY "Ghosted" the drive to another one.

      Similar story for me, six months ago. I don't recommend slaming it against the desk, if you feel violence is neccessary build it up gradually. Start of with a gentle tap from the base of your screw driver.

      In my case I believe the read head was stuck. It worked intermittently and on the last time it worked I was ghosting it and the head stuck. The drive was too hot to touch after a few hours of it sitting in this state. Any longer and it may have become a fire hazzard.

      Speaking of which, I almost had a fire two weeks ago. Water had been getting into the in-line power adapter for my WiFi access point. I've never seen an ethernet cable melt before, kinda scary.

  114. Mac Administrator by LoudMusic · · Score: 0

    I've been a Macintosh admin for nearly 9 years now. Pre-OS X everything was voodoo to the users. I hoped with all my heart that maybe they'd just 'get it' with OS X and a computer would be a computer. But no, it's all still voodoo to the Mac user. I guess that's the way Apple wants it. Everything is done for the 'user's experience'.

    Hell some of it is still voodoo to me. And half the time I think it's voodoo to the Apple support staff as well.

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    No sig for you. YOU GET NO SIG!
  115. Re-"wiring" a monitor by Digz · · Score: 1

    Back in the day, I had an old Amiga monitor that developed a short somewhere on the logic board. Never quite figured out where it was, but I did figure out a solution. You see, if you torqued the board just right the short would go away. So I did the quick-and-dirty - I used a piece of rope to hold the board in the proper position. Worked like a charm for me. ;)

    I later included that monitor with an Amiga 1000 I sold a co-worker. He ended up using it for several years - but the monitor bugged him. So when he finally upgraded to a new system, he did the only logical thing with it.

    I hear Amiga monitors make a pretty sight when hit with a 20 gauge. :)

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    SYS 64738
  116. From my experience, by Progman3K · · Score: 1

    Having to power-down in order for the computer hard disk to cool down for a while so it would become readable again, giving a short time period where it would be possible to copy some data to a few diskettes, power-down when it gets too hot again, (rinse and repeat LOL) ...

    Fortunately, the hard disk was only 10 MB so it was still possible to get it done in an hour or so.

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    I don't know the meaning of the word 'don't' - J
  117. more vodoo by sjs132 · · Score: 1

    And as for more "VODOO", how many times do you get: "It was broken till you came over to fix it... Now it is just fine." Happens all the time... I respond with "it must be my magnetic personality" but I know it just bugs folks that have had a problem and spent 45 minutes or a few hours rebooting a number of times and doing everthing over and over and I come in and it magically "fixes" itself. The other thing that I've told them is that the computers are afraid of me and straighten right up or I'd format them and install Windows ME. Of course for Windows there is always a "REBOOT" vodoo that I do before I attempt to "FIX" anything... Usually fixes 99% of the problems right away. ;) Then I give them a good dance about why it didn't work right... Cause if I told them they were just f&$#ing idiots, and don't deserve to own a computer; I don't think I'd get good reviews or repeat business on the side. ;) (Users = JOB SECURITY)

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    --- Relax, that mass muderer is just trying to reduce our carbon footprint, one fetus at a time...
  118. Whenever I build a new PC or upgrade a PC, I ALWAYS test the machine before closing the case. 99% of the time it works fine, then I close the case and life is good. However if I close the case before testing it, 99% of the time something will be wrong that will require me to reopen the case. How does it know?

    1. Re:Why? by swordgeek · · Score: 1

      "Ya just don't get it, do ya son?"

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      "People who do stupid things with hazardous materials often die." -- Jim Davidson on alt.folklore.urban
    2. Re:Why? by nurb432 · · Score: 1

      Somehow i really doubt you are older then me. So be careful throwing words like that around.

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      ---- Booth was a patriot ----
    3. Re:Why? by swordgeek · · Score: 1

      First of all, you seem to be trying hard to take offense where it wasn't intended. Did you notice the little tick-thingies before and after the statement? Those are called quotation marks, and mean that the statement was a quote. In this case, it was Foghorn Leghorn, complaining to his young charge that his practicality made him overlook the whole philosophy of the subject. This, I claim, is what you've done. Sure, PCs are cheap, replaceable garbage. However, that doesn't change the fact that many of us have had to do certain bits of magic on computers (or other equipment) to keep it alive while waiting for parts, or because parts aren't available for old minicomputers and the like.

      As for the age comment, I hope I'm older than you. It saddens me to think of someone approaching middle-aged and still as uncreative as you appear.

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      "People who do stupid things with hazardous materials often die." -- Jim Davidson on alt.folklore.urban
    4. Re:Why? by nurb432 · · Score: 1

      Never watched cartoons, even when i was a kid, so yes i easily missed the reference. ( though i have heard of the character.. i guess i get a point for that? :) )

      On the 2nd item.. How about creativity is lost as you age and become disillusioned with it all? You will see...

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      ---- Booth was a patriot ----
  119. these darn web-savvy ghosts, nowadays by amrust · · Score: 3, Funny

    I have a friend. Her and her husband's computer works completely normal. To him, anyway, when he only "checks email occasionally". But for some reason, when the wife uses it, she says their antispy software shows the husband's profile/browsing history is mysteriously always infected cookies from a bunch of porno sites that they never visited! Seems like it's worse when she gets back from being out of town. Like the ghostly hackers know when she's been gone, or something.

    There's some spooky voodoo for ya, right there. They should probably call Ghostbusters, or something.

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    VOTE!
  120. Lonely Computers by keithmo · · Score: 2, Funny

    Years ago, I spoke with a repair tech at a local repair shop. He told me about a problem with Apple II machines that exhibited very specific symptoms. A customer would call him, describe the problem, bring the computer to his shop, and the machine would suddenly work perfectly. The actual problem was a loose connector (or expansion card, I don't remember) and the simple act of putting the machine in the car and driving to the shop was enough to reseat it and correct the problem.

    He was eventually able to recognize the problem over the phone. He would tell the customer that the computer was lonely, and should be taken for a ride around the block. It worked almost every time.

  121. Computer Voodoo is awesome! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just this weekend, I installed linux on a dead badger I found on the road. I had to get several badgers before I finally corrected all my kernal panics, but eventually it worked. All REAL Linux gurus need a dead badger running Linux around. Now, if I could only find drivers for the new printer I installed...

  122. My old 486... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... had 64MB of 72 pin SIMMs. Now, since this box was my little hardware bitch, I eventually ended up breaking some of the metal tabs that held the RAM in. Being a midtower case, whenever it would lock up I'd give it a swift kick to save myself the trouble of reaching down and pushing the RAM back in. Reboot. Rinse. Repeat.

    Ah, I love that machine.

  123. Re: best way to fix the PC-problem is to get a Mac by thoughtlover · · Score: 1

    "What wacky stuff have you done that makes no obvious sense, but just works?"

    Well, my friends and family all thought _I_ was wacky for using a Mac, but who's getting the last laugh, now? Funny, because everyone loved the Apple ][ at school, but they all went cheap(er)-PC when it came to the GUI.

    -SMUG since 1994

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    No sig for you! Come back one year!
  124. what's so voodoo about this one ? by freaker_TuC · · Score: 1

    I use Microsoft Windows.

    Problem solved, no voodoo about this thing, Windows is supposed to work semi-useful, the rest is bells-n-whistles ;)

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    --- I am known for the ones who want to find me on the net. Is that a privacy risk or a privilege? One might wonder..
  125. The CD ROM Voodoo by in2mind · · Score: 1
    I have a Samsung Cd-Rom drive,that will not open(eject) if there is no CD inside the drive.
    The solution? ..is to always have a Cd inside the drive.
    If I didnt,it'd very difficult to get it to open ..
    My friend has the same problem with his samsung drive too.

    Sadly,recently I had forgotten to leave a Cd in the tray : game over I guess - It wouldnt open at all any longer! Its a drive that would work perfectly if it had a Cd inside...

  126. But, of course! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Windows is filled with this kind of shit! Nobody knows why it works, nobody knows why it should work, but everybody knows that, if you have this problem, then you do this in Windows and it just works!

    Google your next Windows problem. See if I am wrong.

  127. Today by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I go to restart httpd after changing the config, no go. It claims my DocumentRoot doesn't exist. I look at the filesystem, yep it's there.

    % cd /etc/init.d
    % mv httpd httpd.bak
    % cp httpd.bak httpd
    % service httpd start
    Starting httpd: [ OK ]
    %

    Stupid computer. Fix discovered on a previous occasion when I made a copy of /etc/init.d/httpd so that I could insert debugging help without changing the original, followed by the startup refusing to fail.

  128. Router by AndresCP · · Score: 1

    We have a home wireless router hooked up to a cable modem that just craps out every once in a while. Certain p2p things will work, but browsers won't; someone told me that was a DNS problem. Regardless, I tried a number of technical, reasonable fixes. Nothing. So, if you unplug the router and modem and plug them in IMMEDIATELY, it still doesn't work. But if you lerave it unplugged long enough for the hamsters inside to forget whatever the problem was (say 5-10 minutes, these are rocket scientist hamsters) it works. Until the next time it craps out again.

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    "Just because you're eloquent doesn't mean you aren't a fucking crackpot." -Wavebreak
  129. How's this for some voodo by Jairun · · Score: 1

    My parents had an old Packard bell. Before they got rid of the evil machine, we had to pull some pretty wierd stuff to get the computer to connect to the internet. First, if the computer was turned off and you wanted to get online, you had to physicly disconnect the power. Easiest way was by taking the plug out of the power supply. Wait at least 30 seconds and plug it back in. Boot the computer and dial into the internet, everything was fine. Until you reboot or shut down. Rebooting and still being able to connect to the internet required shutting down, un plugging, and booting after 30 seconds of being unpluged. If you failed to follow these steps every time you turned the computer on, then you would endlessly try to dial into the web in vain. We tried everything, new modems, different ISP, everything. That was the only way that computer would connect to the web.

  130. This reminds me of the old AI koan... by ClockworkSparrow · · Score: 1

    A novice was trying to fix a broken Lisp machine by turning the power off and on.
    Knight, seeing what the student was doing spoke sternly:
    "You cannot fix a machine by just power-cycling it with no understanding of what is going wrong."
    Knight turned the machine off and on.
    The machine worked.


    enlightenment...

    1. Re:This reminds me of the old AI koan... by Yonzie · · Score: 1

      It worked again, yes, but the problem was not fixed...

  131. Threat of Violence by udoschuermann · · Score: 3, Funny

    Back in the day when I was a network admin (think 286 and the powerhouse 386 with a whooping 8mb RAM), we had occasional issues with one networked PC or another. Most of the time I'd carry a fairly large hammer with me and would place it on top of the computer case while I had it open to investigate the problem and work on the machine. The sight of the hammer freaked out more than one person in the office because they thought I intended to really use the thing. Apparently it had a similar effect on the computer because I never had a problem getting the thing to work again in short order. They also behaved just fine after that implicit threat (the computers, not the people).

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    --Udo.
  132. UGH....... by Sillygates · · Score: 1

    I had to do the pull out the plug one on a computer before :(....it was a faulty power supply :(

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    I fear the Y2038 bug
  133. Hot-plugging SATA after attempting a Vista by lullabud · · Score: 1

    I learned that SATA was hot-pluggable after Vista nuked my partition table so bad that another XP system wouldn't boot up if the bad disk was plugged in during boot.

    I guess the only voodoo part of this was trying to install Vista...

  134. Super NoFriendo by Evets · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I bought a clearance Super-Nintendo from CompUSA for $5 when I worked there. We didn't even sell them, but someone got suckered into taking it as a return. It worked find for about a week, then we ended up resorting to blowing on the cartridges for another week or two.

    Finally it stopped working alltogether, but addicted to one of the games, I set to taking it apart and finding the problem. While it was apart, I found that if I held the game cartridge in with a certain amount of pressure it would work, but too much pressure or none at all and it would not operate at all.

    Searching throughout the house for an appropriate weight, I ended up finding a 3 quarters empty bottle of Amaretto in the parental unit's liquor cabinet that worked perfectly. I spent the last semester of my senior year with a bottle of alcohol staring at me that I could never drink - for if I did my game console would die on me. It didn't last once summer started, though ... :)

    1. Re:Super NoFriendo by Egregius · · Score: 1

      It's like that with gameboy cartridges as well. Not with Amareto weights, mind you, but if you shifted the cartridge in too far or not far enough, the connectors apparently wouldn't connect.

  135. Re:The CD ROM Voodoo by KloroFormd · · Score: 1

    I've seen this problem with a "CyberDrv" CD-RW in a COMPAQ. It had another problem after that. A round piece of steel like a washer in the middle of the plastic part the CD spins on came loose, and that was keeping the CD from being held by the magnet at the top of the drive cover. I used superglue on it, and could get it to play CD's again, but it would currupt digital data horribly.

  136. smacking the computer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    if you smack your computer hard enough, it is less likely to crash if you are running Windows 95/98.

  137. laptop pressure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was having problems with my dv4130 freezing up...no reason i could figure out, but when pressure was applied to the touchpad, it worked find, rather than holding my thumb on the touchpad, i opened it up to see where the pressure was really needed...no help...but it was the board under the touchpad, not the touchpad....so i folded up cardboard, stuffed it in, closed it back up and havent had a problem since....

  138. Memory management magic!!! by Lars512 · · Score: 1

    Ah, sweet, sweet C++ and array out of bounds errors. Memory bugs are always magic. Like I once worked on some code with an errant delete in there, and the project I was working on had very strict version control processes. When I ran the extensive test suite, it caused a crash in someone else's code. My code got committed, since another "unrelated" part of the system was crashing. Luckily, we found the real problem quickly.

    That's all normal though. The really funny business was when a friend asked me for some advice on his code. He'd made a minor change, but it crashed the system badly. The sytem had been working before, so he stripped back and back his change until he found it worked again. It turned out that with a "do nothing" statement like int notUsedVar = 1; taken away, a bad memory error surfaced. I had to convince him not to just leave it in and keep going with his work =)

  139. CD-ROM Driver voodoo by mridle · · Score: 1

    Back in the Win98 days I had a homebuilt computer with some 4x CD-ROM drive, that I don't remember the name of. The problem was, that when booting from the Win98 CD (did a lot of reinstalling those days...), the standard drivers on that thing woulnd't recognise th CD-ROM drive. For some time I just had a bootdisk with the drivers that came with the drive and everything went smooth - that is, until that disc went fubar.

    Well, I was young at the time and had plenty of time to allocate to such problems so I found a solution: Rebooting with the disc tray open and closing the drive during POST worked. When done like that the Win98 standard drivers would load for the drive.

    Today I have no idea of just how I go the thought "Hey why don't I reboot with the drive open", and I Don't remember if tried sacrificing goats to the Computer Gods.

    /idle

  140. Hard drive by whereiseljefe · · Score: 1

    I had an old harddrive (4gb... back in the day!) that would randomly stop spinning, so I had to kick the case to get it to spin back up.

    Also a more recent issue is I had a computer that randomly after shutdown, windows (including my PE disks and the recovery console) couldn't read the partition, but if I booted up a linux live cd (ubuntu or mepis, whatever I had on hand) and mounted the partition in linux, windows would be good to go again...

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  141. my voodoo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My computer was having problems booting up. I would turn the power on, and the power light would come on, but the computer wouldn't actually boot. I think it would stop while trying to read the bios or something. The trick was to just press the reset button after powering on the computer. I think that the power supply in the computer didn't quite have enough capacity to sustain the startup instant power on of everything in the system. Basically, the initial power-on would discharge the capacitors completely, and the power supply didn't supply the 12 volts needed to read back the BIOS at the critical time. A "reset" switch was all that was needed to have it retry once the initial power on was over.

  142. Old Motorola StarMax by carolsim · · Score: 1

    Hello: I once owned an ancient Motorola StarMax( a Macinitosh clone). It was upgraded with a G-3 processor and actually worked pretty well as my son's computer except it would periodically just go completely dead. No startup. Nada.

    One day I smacked it in frustration and poof, you could start it up again, chime and all. I guess it had a loose connection somewhere, but after checking out its innards I could never pinpoint where it was.

    So when it "died" a swift sharp smack would always "resurrect" it.

    Go figure...

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    "What would men be without women? Scarce, sir. Mighty scarce."- Mark Twain
  143. The sounds of the internet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My friend had a computer, I think it was a Cyrix 166, although it might have been an Intel or an AMD. It was in the early Pentium days at any rate.

    He somehow got what I think must have been a bizarre IRQ conflict between his sound card and his modem. When he'd first boot up Windows, you would not hear the Windows startup sound. However, the sound was queued up and waiting for packets to go in and out of the modem. Logging onto Earthlink would cause the sound to finally play, in fits and spurts, synchronized perfectly with the in/out indicators in the taskbar modem monitoring program.

    Oh man, computers have come a long way since then!

    -- Posted from a Powermac, routed through an OpenBSD router, no Windows anywhere in the process :)

  144. Credit card works in plastic bag by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have one that still can't explain (maybe someone can explain this).

    I worked at a local grocery store as a cashier. Every now and then a credit card reader wouldn't work when someone would slide their card, even after trying many times. This man came through once and grabbed a plastic bag, stuck his card in it, and slid it threw with the bag still over it. It worked.

    This worked so well that anytime a customer would come through with a card that didn't work after sliding it many times I would take their card, put it in a bag, and it would usually work then on the first try. It was so weird, I would even get really strange looks from people. Can anyone explain why this worked?

    1. Re:Credit card works in plastic bag by Jairun · · Score: 1

      No idea why it works, but I can confirm that it does work sometimes on those really hard to read cards.

    2. Re:Credit card works in plastic bag by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am no expert, but my swipe card at work is bent and needs the right speed and pressure of swiping. In 3 dimentions, it's bent so there is a slight hump near the corner, effectively accross the magnetic stripe.

      To return to your question, it could be that the difficult cards are more bent than normal, and the reader won't quite make contact properly. Or it could be, that the bag acts as an extra layer that distributes the friction during the swipe process --remember that the card is magnetic and bad contact may screw with the fields produced by the card reader, if there are bulges that cause friction zones. The bag, I think prevents contact with what may be faulty areas on either the reader or the card. Plus the fact that having a bag cover the card makes you swipe in a slightly different way.

      In New York city there are about 1 million daily users of the public transportation system. Years after our upgrade from subway tokens to pay fares, some people still won't swipe the disposable "Metrocards" right way. A few times, the culprit is a dirty or somewhat defective turnstyle, and moving to another one fixes the issue. Some times it is tourists who are not aware of how to swipe the card, so you have to show them the speed of the swing and hold the card firmly for them.

      Well, hope this helps abit, but I'm only a computer guy, so take with grains of salt.

    3. Re:Credit card works in plastic bag by ripismoney · · Score: 1

      I have also seen this at our local grocery store. Whenever someone's credit card won't read at our Meijer's, the cashier has then put a plastic bag over it and, usually, it reads like new.

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      ---Without electricity, we'd all be surfing the net by candlelight.
  145. SNES by HearWa · · Score: 1

    I usto own the game "Stunt Race FX" for the SNES when I was younger and it had a bad habbit of bugging out on me five or ten minutes into the game. One day I remember randomly putting the game in the freezer and leaving it for an hour. Turns out it worked fine after doing that.

  146. Overdrive processor... by MaXMC · · Score: 2, Funny

    My father got an 386SX 25Mhz with 4MB of RAM when it was THE thing to have.
    Later on we upgraded to 8MB and then it was time to get the overdrive processor that had it's own slot on the motherboard, I was a happy camper, finaly a floatingpoint co-processor for my povray renderings.

    Well we plugged it in and noticed that instead of the 50Mhz we should be getting we were getting 66Mhz.
    Since it didn't have any active cooling devices and this was a desktop computer we left the hood off to see if it got to warm. After some heavy use of the new processor (I think it was Warcraft 2) I can hear a creaking sound coming from the computer and then the screen goes blank, everything stops. Suddenly *boing* the co-processor flies out of it's socket. I'm sitting in my office chair and from that I'm throwing myself (still sitting in the chair) and I catch the co-processor mid flight, and I emidiately start juggling it since it's hot as h*ll. I get it on to the desk and I let it cool down.

    After it's cooled I plug it in again and it works... phew... so I start playing WC2 again and the next time I hear the creaking sound I take my thumb and press it down on to the co-processor, I can hear and feel the burn on my thumb but since then it hasn't jumped out again. Infact I think it's stuck now :)

  147. synch; synch; reboot; by louarnkoz · · Score: 1

    Recognize that? That was the proper way to stop a classic Unix system. Synch first, to make sure the write cache is flushed and the file system is clean. Then reboot. But repeat the synch command twice, because you never know, just one might be bad luck. Old style voodoo...

    1. Re:synch; synch; reboot; by WWWWolf · · Score: 1

      And here I thought that if X server gets terminally messed up in Linux, the real key combo to do is MagicSysRq-E,I,E,I,S,S,S,U,B, and the real pro knows how to time the key presses properly =)

  148. Flex video card by zlogic · · Score: 1

    I once bought a relatively cheap Gigabyte Geforce 2 MX video card. It worked fine for two days then died. After trying to fix it I found out that the video card worked if you bent it the right way (on one corner) while the computer was booting. After that I added some cardboard and duct tape so that the card would always stay bent. It worked something like two years, occasionally failing because the duct tape would move and the whole thing returned to normal. After I replaced the thing, I finally took it out. It was twisted by 10 degrees in its normal state!

  149. Vegetable oil in video card fan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My ATI video card fan would not shut up; the constant high-pitched whine drove me nuts. So I took apart the card and peeled off the bright ATI logo sticker exposing the fan bearing. I put a few drops of cooking oil in there (didn't have any WD-40 around), booted up, and the noise was gone!

    Of course the noise came back a few months later, so then I just removed the fan and underclocked the chip so it wouldn't get so hot. Who can enjoy 100fps with that noise?

  150. Hard Drive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One of my hard drive controllers was failing so every time I booted up my computer I would have to go into the bios, and set that hard drive to disabled then exit the bios without saving...

  151. Windows by pritchard · · Score: 1

    I click things.. and eventually....

  152. Hmm... by Greyfox · · Score: 1
    1) Back when my room mate's computer had two CD ROM drives in it, a Windows XP install would error out about half way through with some funky error unless the drive the Windows CD wasn't in was in the ejected state. I checked the jumpers and the master/slave jumpers were set correctly.

    2) Same computer, a hard drive mysteriously stopped writing one day but the cache was still working. So you could seem to format the drive and write stuff to it, but once it was rebooted it would magically revert back to its original state. Her friends though I was some super-hacker who had somehow set some windows permission setting so that no one could modify the drive. Took several hours and formatting the drive with a Debian boot CD before I figured out what was going on.

    3) This one time a customer complained that the OS/2 time setting interface didn't work correctly. He'd set the milliseconds but a second later the time would be wrong. Well after digging around inside the assembly language timer driver, it turns out that there were two interrupts the driver would listen to. The first one happened every 22 milliseconds or so. The other was a 1 second periodic interrupt. Turns out the OS could easily ignore one of the 22 millisecond ones if the system was loaded, so to work around this and keep the the system from regularly losing millseconds, the driver would reset the millis to 0 when the 1 second interrupt came around. It further turns out that this was "Working as designed" (Although not documented that way) and the bug was closed as a nofix.

    Good times...

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    I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?

  153. Thaw a 'Frozen' PC by kEnder242 · · Score: 1

    I have an old dual p3 board DVD266u-RN that needs a few minutes to randomly freeze and/or reboot during varios parts of starting up.

    Underclocking seems to do the trick, untill it has been running for half an hour, then the P3's run stable at 1.4Ghz. It was strange explaining to friends at LAN parties that the thing needed to 'warm up'. Come to think of it, I replaced the caps on this thing not too long before it started this behavior.

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  154. computer voodoo by coldmc · · Score: 1

    it is amazing how many "problems" are fixed just by shuttin the machine down, and then powering it back on. this works 99% of the time, no matter if it is a mac or pc. what changed??? nothing. you all decide.

    1. Re:computer voodoo by IHC+Navistar · · Score: 0

      Windows had a problem with a bad memory leak. If you ran your computer for days at a time, you would have to completely shut it down and reboot it if you wanted to use any remotely burdening programs. Supposedly, the memory leak was fixed, but I'm still not so sure.....

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      Knowing Google's lust for data collection, the Soviet Union is still alive and well inside the psyche of Sergey Brin....
  155. Website voodoo by FoXDie · · Score: 1

    I work at a web design company now and I've encountered two crazy voodoo happenings.
    First, it seems that in certain circumstances how elements appear in Internet Explorer can be affected by white space. Those twats. Anyway, you just delete the white space and put the code on one line and you're golden.
    Next, for some reason, our web server is a testy sonovabitch. Occasionally after I upload a webpage with additions/corrections the website will not display the updated page. Yes, I know I'm uploading the file and I've tried it numerous times. It will often take minutes for the page to update. However, I find that all I have to do is go take a piss and when I come back the page is working. Maybe it has a shy bladder too.

  156. Warming up Warcraft by SlackerElite · · Score: 1

    Back in the old days I had a 386 and the most amazing game came out: Warcraft. Problem was, it wouldn't run on my computer; always froze up during the map loads. So, I gave it a corner massage! Gently massage both corners of the lain down computer during the loading caused the maps to always work flawlessly!

  157. Notebook-Wifi resurrection by ruserious · · Score: 1

    A friend had an elitegroup notebook (a really cheap one) with built-in wifi (b). While helping him set it up, wndows crashed one time, so we unplugged and took out the battery to powercycle it. Suddenly the wifi was gone - the hardware wasn't being recognized. After trying out a whole lot of things and being frustrated, we figured, the heck, we'll just do the same thing we did when it disappeared - unplug and remove the battery on the running system. It actually worked.
    And it kept working for the next two years. Whenever the wifi-hardware stopped being recognized nothing would help (reboot, shutdown+wait, shutdown+unplug+wait, fiddle with drivers etc. etc.), except unplugging power chord and removing the battery while it was running - and it worked every time.

    I have no idea why that would even work, it sounds very silly.

  158. hard drive in the freezer voodoo... by capsteve · · Score: 1
    been reading some interesting ide harddrive tricks, this is one of my favs so far... so i thought i'd toss a scsi drive voodoo i've used a few times to retrieve some data.. the ol' "stick it in the freezer" voodoo. granted, this is a last ditch effort, but it's worked several times for me. so it goes something like this...

    years ago a graphic arts vendor was padding it's financials by shipping out demo RS6000 server and raid units to customers. on their books they'd list it as a sale and a returned product, even thought they were actually just demo units(they ended up getting in serious trouble for this behavior, but that's another story). they shipped one of these units to my company, and i remember trying to ship the unit back with out success. it sat on our shipping dock for over a year in it's original shipping crate, and was never claimed. so we ended up stripping it for parts. a total of twenty 4gb barracudas came out of the clovis raids. after some heavy usage, the 4 GB barracuda drives(before seagate had the 5 yr warranties) would start acting wonky, usually when you would try to read a critical file off of the drive. i remember these drives as being popular for their performance, but unpopular for their noise and heat. anyways, call me crazy, but i could tell by the sound of the drive that it was repeatedly trying to read the same sectors repeatedly before failing. mac os 7 and 8 would spin the watch and either recover with an error message that such-and-such file was unreadable, or it would tail spin endlessly and require a force quit/reboot. i'd make note of which files were problematic and copy as many of the other files as possible. when i was ready to copy off the final files, i'd pull the drive out of the mac, let it cool off to room temp, stick the drive in a ziplock, and into the freezer. meanwhile i'd stick a replacement drive in the system, rebuild it, and prep an external scsi case for the frozen drive. i'd boot the system completely, install the frozen drive, power the external scsi box, use scsi-probe or FWB scsi DA to discover and mount the drive, and Viola! i'd be able to copy my files off the drive.

    this usually gave me a 5-10 minute window before the drive started acting up again, and at least on one occasion i crashed the heads into the platter(prolly from condensation). in any event, after a successful copy, we'd end up low level formatting the drives and press it back into service for photoshop scratch drives or disk image drives for cd replication.

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  159. The Voodoo3 3000 that never died. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I once had a system with a K6-2 450MHz proc, w/384MB of RAM and a Voodoo3 3000. I had just gotten interested in overclocking (when I saw the PII kids do it better). Anyway, after I got my K6-2 450, I had caught onto the burn-in bandwagon, even following some people do extreme-temperature burn-ins. I let that bastard burn for a good 8 minutes while I had it running Windows. It worked great till the 8th minute, when the screen finally went berserk. Then I decided that wasn't good enough. I took off the aluminum plate over the core and performed the same thing. This time I ended it at 5 minutes, when it felt unbearably hot 5 inches away from the core. Still ran fine. What'd I do next? I hooked up a 60W peltier to an Alpha HSF and applied a hearty amount of silicone gel around the socket. It eventually smoked awhile later. But hey, I got it up to 580MHz! And then there was my Voodoo3 3000, in which I took a shit-ton of that craptastic RS thermal paste that came out of pen and painted on the back of the card. I put a huge custom 'sink out of some mainframe onto the back of it and O/C'd that pretty high too. I was also using the Epox mobo box as its enclosure. Mobo on top, drives in bottom. I made cut-outs for the face-plates. I used to transport this mother to LAN games too! (If anyone's wonderin', I used to live in AL).

  160. It's my day job by Miertam · · Score: 1

    I work at a not for profit computer refurbisher so Voodoo is what I do day in and day out. Some choice bits from this last month are; The system that refused to install win2k until I walked over and clicked the install button. The volunteer had been fighting it all morning as had a couple of other techs. I didn't do anything they didn't do it just liked me. Getting a dead system to run again by turning it upside down. I am going to assume that it had a short some where that opened, or a loose chip that the movement reseated. Standing there with a wireless NIC antenna in my hand because that was the only way the system would see the network.

  161. Nicotine Buddah by Digital_Mercenary · · Score: 1

    It was a small porceline buddah that sat on a problematic hp9000 in a small New York Finincial firm. The Senior Sysadmin (nicknamed:Satan) placed a cigarette across the buddahs upturned hands. The problems suddenly went away. Thus began my journey into computer spiritualism. Since then I've seen everything from rubber chickens in the datacenter hanging from noose made of cat 5 to Zombies and walking dead changing tapes and installing servers... oh wait... thats the the graveyard shift...

  162. What wacky stuff...? by falken0905 · · Score: 0

    "What wacky stuff have you done that makes no obvious sense, but just works?" Installing Windows XP.

  163. Bad ram slot? by moranar · · Score: 1

    I used to "admin" a celeron that would only recognize the full amount of RAM on the second consecutive boot. It'd only see half of the available memory the first time one powered it up after the night, and all of it the second time. I guess something had to heat up a bit to connect.

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    "I think it would be a good idea!"
    Gandhi, about Internet Security
  164. Commodore copy protection madness by WWWWolf · · Score: 2, Interesting

    As everyone knows, Commodore VIC-1541 Toaster is a very, very odd thing.

    I once got a C64 game collection. The store was half across the country. Got home. Tried playing the games. A few didn't work. We mailed the games back to the store for replacement.

    The games came back with a note "If the games do not work, turn the floppy drive to its side." With a helpful diagram.

    Flipped the drive to its side, tried running the game, and wham - time to enjoy some games.

    I later ran into some games that had such a weird copy protection that, in turn, didn't work while the drive was on its side...

    Now, honest truth to tell, I've looked at modern attempts at DRM/copy protections with rather bleary eyes, but I think Starforce and the Sony XCP rootkits seem to have finally beaten this stuff - time to get worried about nasty copy protection schemes again...

  165. Whack Mac with Rubber Chicken by Lost+Penguin · · Score: 1

    We had Mac 6840AVs with NuBus slots.
    The cards needed to be reseated from time to time.
    My manager would simply smack the outside of case with a rubber chicken (while off)
    This seemed to reseat the cards very well.

    Also, putting a hard drive in the freezer for 20 minutes to recover data, but everyone has done that.

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    I am the unwilling control for my Origin.
  166. Few bit's of voodoo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Had a network card that just wasn't worked, passed all diagnotics, lihgts on the switch showed data and link, finally noticed the lights on the card were not on, dont remember how I figured it out, but I found bending the end of the card up fixed it. I stuck a old garth brooks cassette under the nic and propped the back corner up, worked perfectly after that.

    On a very odd note. My mom once said loudly "I don't like you" to the microsoft paperclip in office when it came on the screen. The computer promptly turned off. No errors in logs or anything, just shut right off after that comment.

    Had a AMD network card that would crash any pentium system, but worked fine on AMD systems :)

    And had an old server I had to power of for 5min then reboot twice to get it to post, quite annoying.

    But the worst of all, I did finally find out what it was, was with my first computer.

    The place I got it from accidently put my modem and mouse on the same IRQ, so for a few weeks my mouse wasn't working when I wasn't connected to the internet, and when I would connect my mouse would start working fine. But my downloads would freeze until I moved my mouse. Stop moving the mouse the download would stop. So for a large download I had to constatly sit at the computer and move the mouse in circles. - I still have a habit of moving the mouse if a download freezes unexpectedly :)

    I have seen other very odd stuff I might post more later.

  167. Capacitance makes it fail. by Dr_Barnowl · · Score: 1

    I've seen an article where the authors tried this they used distilled water and a sealed case to make a "full-immersion" watercooled system.

    It didn't work (but didn't destroy the components), until they tried it with oil instead. The theory they expounded was that water, as a polar solvent, has effects on charge that a long-chain hydrocarbon doesn't. The capacitance of the water was throwing off the timing of the more sensitive components of the system.

    1. Re:Capacitance makes it fail. by Cadallin · · Score: 1

      Um, I'd guess the reason is that if you stick a computer (which is full of what now? oh yeah metal!) in deionized water, said water won't stay deionized for long. Pure water is a rather incredible solvent, and it will dissolve metal ions right off the tracings on the motherboard/other cards and connectors.

  168. Gotta warm up the engine by Anti_Climax · · Score: 1

    I had a Duron that I had overclocked from the normal 100Mhz FSB to 133. Most Durons of that era really didn't like to do that and I had to significantly increase my vCore to make it happen. For some reason if I cold booted my machine it would lock up while the OS was loading. If I rebooted after that it would boot and run with no further issues. Better than that, if I detoured through the CMOS config page and exited immediately or paused the POST, it would boot fine.

    Who would think you'd need to let a duron warm up before taking it out for a test drive.

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    Even people that believe in pre-destiny look both ways before crossing the street.
    1. Re:Gotta warm up the engine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That PAUSE reminds me of a solution I used at work until about a year ago.

      A specific set of copies of a DOS-based boot CD would fail when connecting to DHCP for an image distribution share running on a Novell network. These CDs must have had a few bad bytes.

      The solution was, using the provided boot menu, courtesy of the CD's DOS underpinings, to choose the "Confirm every batch file command" in the options, and then confirm each autoexec.bat line with "Y" waiting a second or two for time padding. The 20 or so NIC driver loader lines probably were running too quickly before finishing their job. The voodoo gave pauses that for some reason allowed the machines not to freeze. The voodooish pause did not always work, and I often had to show the other techs the rhytm I had for the solution. Beats me, but I have to use the solution recently and apparently forgot the exact timing of this voodoo.

      Copying off the original good CD kept producing bad copies that had this same problem. Thank God we use a different system now and using the CDs is extremely rare now.

    2. Re:Gotta warm up the engine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My machine has a Duron too and only runs when hot. I still suspect the Chaintech motherboard with cheap capacitors to be the problem.

  169. This qualifies, I think by Hosiah · · Score: 1

    Just this last week! Initial problem: In 3-computer household, lightning strikes, killing DSL gateway router. It was a very powerful strike; the surge protector didn't save it, only half of the PCs in the house got knocked out, and a light bulb popped and a battery operated toy on top of my monitor started up all by itself. Freak accident.

    Partial solution: New router arrives, but of course QWest doesn't support my Linux boxen. Tossing the Windows exectuable CDs, I type random IP addys into Firefox until I find the secret one that connectes to the router without the CD.

    New Problem: Connecting the *second* computer to the router. The line is live, but the same IP doesn't work. Neither does any other. It simply won't let me in. search for hours for the solution. It's midnight...

    Solution: and ANOTHER lightning storm makes the power dip just enough to reboot everything. When all the machines come back up, the second computer now shows up on the network. It connects. Problem solved.

    Yes, I take credit for this solution. I was cursing Cthulhu, who answered.

  170. Label Magic by mlush · · Score: 1

    I was on the train having all sorts of trouble installing Mandrake 10 on my laptop I had to give up because I arrived at my station. Anyway the next day, absently, I peeled off the 'Designed for Microsoft(R) Windows(R) XP' label, tried again and it booted first time. Magic I still have the label, if SysAdmin hack me off, I'll sneak in one night and stick it on a critical server :->

  171. Network Card Paradox by foreverdisillusioned · · Score: 1

    I'm surprised there aren't more Windows stories. Sure, the hardware stories are funny but virtually every truly bizare computer experience I've ever had has been strictly Windows-related. The one that immediately leaps to mind is this:

    A few years back I was installing XP on my sister's computer and the network card didn't work out of the box. The driver disk was long gone, the search-for-a-driver-on-the-XP-installation-CD wizard didn't work, so I was downloading every driver I could think of on my laptop and copying them over via USB key... nothing worked. An hour or so passes and I've now tried every driver I've found that even remotely stands a chance of working, including several drivers from sites written in Bulgarian.

    So, out of sheer frustration, the next time I reboot (a just-for-the-hell-of-it reboot--not because I actually installed anything new) and see that damn "Found new hardware!" crap I hit "yes" when Windows asks me if I want to allow it to connect to the internet to search for a driver.

    And I'll be damned if it didn't somehow connect to the internet and download the appropriate driver. I was stupified... there wasn't any other form of net connection on her computer. I fired up Firefox and Windows Update to check--why yes indeed, they were both seeing the internet now.

    I dunno, perhaps there's some sort of Zen lesson to be learned here, but at the time I was quite livid. My sister was like "cool, it's working now" and started surfing while I sat in a corner waving my hands around and gibbering quietly.

  172. Can an error be intentional? by smithfarm · · Score: 1

    All misspellings and grammatical errors in the above post are intentional and part of my artistic expression.

    If it is an error, then by definition it can't be intentional. You need to rephrase your manual.

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    Om
  173. Monitor madness by trewornan · · Score: 1

    The hard drive went on my PC just over a year ago. I replaced it with a larger one and tried to boot, the fans started up and then nothing - no beeps, no clicks, no output, nothing. Tried all sorts without any success, eventually I took it into PC World and explained the problem, the lad there said let's have a look and connected it up to his monitor - bingo booted straight up no problem. Once it had booted from another monitor it would then boot fine from mine.

    Just over a year later the new drive went as well, so I bought a replacement and installed it but same problem - wouldn't boot, no beeps, nothing.

    So I couldn't help thinking it might be something to do with the monitor - borrowed a monitor from a friend and the thing booted straight away.

    Why?

    1. Re:Monitor madness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Poor earth link between the monitor and computer. This answer must be true because the CAPTCHA for this was "unstable"

  174. Hard drive fixing by rikkus-x · · Score: 1

    Every so often, a hard drive will start making horrible clicking or grinding noises. If I buy a new hard drive, format it, copy the data over from the old one, then throw the old one away, everything's fine! I recommend this fix to anyone with failing hardware.

  175. Well once... by Anonymous+Cowpat · · Score: 1

    ...I resorted to reading the instructions!

    See, I was building my current box and it wasn't booting. Turns out ATX2.0 has a SECOND power connecter for the CPU. A magic, voodoo, connector.

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    FGD 135
  176. Magnetic Field by ShadowC001 · · Score: 1

    I once had a celeron 300 that sat on top of a 15 inch speaker and never once thought about the magnetic field it generated at 200 watts. Several times I brought it over to a friends house and everytime without fail, every byte of data would corrupt. So I would just reformat, install the games and swear he had a grimlin. It wasnt until i brought it over to another friends house that I realized when it was sitting on the speaker it adapted to the new field and when I moved it, the harddrive would just fall to pieces. So I just started bringing over my stereo with me and never had another problem...

  177. There's an explaination for this by Qbertino · · Score: 1

    You computer probably was dirty inside, with static causing dust to bridge conectors and pins. This is the single most cause of crashing aside from Microsoft Viruses. The Applejuice neutralized the static, washed the dust away and the goo prevented it from returning. It probably was just enough to remove the static and to wash the dust away but not enough to short-circuit the electronics.

    Come my story:
    I've been a PC freak for nearly a decade, with all my boxen custom built. The fist one being a Cyrix 200+ the first CPU to require a fancooler. Overclocket to 75mhz system clock. Custom DTK Mobo, built extra for it. Blazingly fast back then. Anyway, all of my PCs where built by me, exept the first one which was built by my geek comrades who had a PC company back then. It's after that decade, when a computer starts going haywire without the obvious reason of MS Viruses, I allways go for the "there's a spec of dust shorting your mobo or periferals out" option. Open box, clean it (canned air, carbonfiber brush, cheap shaving cream brush, whatever), close, turn on. Problem solved. Just did that the other month with an ancient laptop of a friend that showed funky stripes on the screen when booted. Dirt on the grafics chip.

    Most people don't keep their PCs clean. I do. I clean my Keyboard 4 times a year and my comps at least as oftern. Once a year I open the ones with fans in them and give them a thourough clean up, vacuum cleaning and all. That combined with Linux or - nowadays - Mac OS X is the best insurance against bad suprises. It's electronics, people. Keep them clean.

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    We suffer more in our imagination than in reality. - Seneca
  178. my crap by Ginger+Unicorn · · Score: 1
    I used to work for a bakery years ago, where i would use a Commodore 286-16 to process orders in a DOS app. This was in 1995, so the 286 was getting on a bit, and after a while it would give BIOS errors and not boot. We noticed this happened when the weather got hot, so we took to putting it in the cold room for 30 minutes before turning it on, and that seemed to cure the problem.

    My other favourite is PSU fan bearings. I usually stab a pencil in through the air vent and that jogs the bearings enough to shut up the grinding noises when they're getting old.

    The worst voodoo is getting windows "network neighbourhood" to work with its random ability to see computers whenever it feels like it. I've never fully understood how to troubleshoot it, and luckily now i'm on linux, it isnt an issue.

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  179. I have the same at work by RichiH · · Score: 1

    It's a shuttle XPC barebone with an AMD CPU and a nforce4 chipset. As we have had DHCP troubles right before, it took me ages to 'debug' that..

  180. voodoo/OCD by mapkinase · · Score: 1

    My guilty voodoo/OCD thing is obcessive saving. If I hit Ctrl-S or :w! I do it at least three times in a row. Three is a very rare minimum.

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    I do not believe in karma. "Funny"=-6. Do good and forbid evil. Yours, Oft-Offtopic Flamebaiting Troll.
  181. FM by Stanislav_J · · Score: 1

    I used to have a friend who was a very active Amateur Radio operator ("ham"). He had rooms full of equipment and operated just about every mode available (AM, FM, SSB, SSTV, TV, Packet, Satellite, etc.). Anyway, his philosophy was that if a certain piece of equipment failed to function properly, and nothing seemed to work, the thing to do was shut it off, call your friends, go out and have a good meal and some brewskis, get a good night's sleep, then wake up the next morning and switch the thing back on. Chances are, he said, it would work just fine. "This is what we hams call 'FM'" he told me. "'FM?'" "Yeah, 'FM' -- 'Fucking Magic.'"

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    "Every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business, and eventually degenerates into a racket." -- Eric Hoffer
  182. Its all in the show. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I recall an incident from several years ago, when I was at school in a physics lesson. Some of the school equipment was less than perfectly reliable. After completing a practical electronics demonstration (The old paperclip-and-cork motor, I think) I noticed another group of students were having problems - their power supply unit was not supplying.

    I walked up to this lot, and without speaking just pressed the tips of my fingers against its plastic top, closed my eyes... and it turned on. I then mysteriously walked back to my own desk across the room. The stories of the 'psychic repair' lasted for a full day - quite an endurance with the rapid turnover of secondry school rumors.

    The trick was simple though - having used that supply in a previous lesson, I was aware that it would only turn on if a slight weight was placed on top of it. Presumably this made or broke a contact within its rickety construction. Once started, it would work until the mains input was switched off.

  183. Wait, you did that by hand? by Salvage · · Score: 1

    Whenever I used a Mac running one of the earlier systems, I always tried to have some lightweight audio app running. It accomplished the samething without all the hassle.

    --
    T. M. Pederson
    "Lies, Damn Lies, and Documentation"
  184. Unorthodox repairs by jbm125 · · Score: 1

    I find ignoring the problem usually works. After ignoring it for a few weeks I will run across a fix while doing something totally unrelated. Jack

  185. SCSI Voodoo by finitimi · · Score: 1

    Thanks for reminding me of that particular voodoo. At the time I felt very foolish invoking it, but it worked. Speaking of Macs, does anybody recall the voodoo involved in getting multiple SCSI devices working? Often you'd have to break the rules of termination or randomly switch IDs around until it worked. Coaxial ethernet termination also seemed not to play by the rules.

    1. Re:SCSI Voodoo by Shannon+Love · · Score: 1
      Speaking of Macs, does anybody recall the voodoo involved in getting multiple SCSI devices working?


      Good god yes! I worked for years in Apple Tech support and the stories about weird SCSI configs were plentiful. The basic problem with SCSI was that it was an analog technology masquerading as a digital one. Every component added to the chain altered its analog properties and if it altered them to much the chain stopped working digitally.

  186. Windows 9x was voodoo central by jonadab · · Score: 1

    I have collected a substantial repertoire of voodoo for getting Windows 95 and 98 to function more-or-less as advertised. It ranges from the almost-sane (like never giving up on anything without rebooting at least five times -- I'm convinced there must be race conditions on Windows 9x startup that cause it to only _sometimes_ successfully complete everything it's supposed to) through the seemingly unnecessary (like keeping a backup copy of explorer.exe and putting a line in autoexec.bat that copies it overtop of the copy Windows actually uses every time the computer is started) to the frankly bizarre (like the schenanighans required to get print sharing to interoperate with Windows XP, some of which apparently vary depending on the printer model).

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    Cut that out, or I will ship you to Norilsk in a box.
  187. Good old Windows NT 4.0 and HAL voodoo by Bake · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I once added a TV Tuner card to my homebrewed NT machine. No matter how hard I tried, it simply refused to operate, even with NT specific drivers for the card, it would always give an error saying it was unable to share an IRQ. The manual for the card said that the only devices using IRQ 9 (still remember the IRQ) should be the TV Tuner card and the video card.
    After a bit of digging I was finally able to determine that IRQ 9 was indeed being shared by more than just the tuner card and the video card; my ZIP Zoom card was also using IRQ 9.

    For those who don't know what a Zip Zoom card was, it was a stripped down SCSI controller mainly used for external Zip SCSI drives.

    After a few months of being unable to use both my Zip drive and tuner card at the same time, I grew weary of plugging/unplugging the cards based on when I wanted to use them and finally decided to do something about it.

    The first step I took was to take a second look at the offending IRQ and changing it. The Zip zoom controller had a few jumpers you enabling you to change the port and IRQ. Finding out that the offending IRQ was 9 I thought it was a simple task at moving the IRQ jumper and therefore assigning a different IRQ.

    I still get the same error. Move the jumper to its original position, same error. This is when things start to get weird. I keep moving the jumper between positions and NT still keeps saying it's using IRQ9. I boot into Linux and shuffle the jumpers back and forth and amazingly Linux says the IRQ for the card changes.

    I then take a closer look at the card and its documentation and notice that the only IRQs the card supports are IRQ 5 and 7 (and NT reports it as having IRQ 9); I still remember the "hmm... this is odd" feeling I got when I found that out.

    Long story short, it turns out that NT's HAL (Hardware Abstraction Layer) decided that my Zip Zoom card belonged best at IRQ 9 and assigned IRQ9 to it accordingly. I was then able to change the IRQ for the zip zoom card so that it used the a different IRQ than IRQ9; thus enabling my to finally use my Zip drive at the same time as my TV Tuner card.

    This is what I call voodoo.

  188. Some lines I use by Gonoff · · Score: 1
    1. Have you checked all the wires are plugged in?
    2. Have you tried turning it off & on again?
    3. What happens when you try?
    4. have you moved your computer recently?

    With 1. I often get embarrased laughs as they unplug the desk fan or phone charger.

    With 2. I am regularly accused of black magic as this cures perhaps 25% of non functioning equipment.

    3. often works because users have calmed down and do it properly this time - whatever it is.

    4. gives me a chance to "tell off" people who think the whole hospital revolves around their office work rather than the patients, doctors, therapists & nurses that I often think the place is for!

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    I'll see your Constitution and raise you a Queen.
  189. Thanks for the Flashback by Shannon+Love · · Score: 1

    I worked in Apple Tech support during the Great Quality Implosion of 95-96. Virtually every product, especially at the low end, had major quality issues. To this day, I collapse weeping into a fetal ball when I hear "Performa 5200" and other models "of which we never speak."

    I think I will go take another shower and try to wash off the horror.

  190. Back in my Dial-Up days... by godkillzyou · · Score: 1

    When I connected to the internet with a 14.4k modem, I used to think that when my connection was taking a long time, if I moved the mouse around a lot, it helped speed up the process. Like making the computer "think about" more things reminded it to finish loading the page I was looking for, or resume downloading. The funny thing is, it seemed to work.

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    http://godkillzyou.blogspot.com
  191. Gum vodoo by das3cr · · Score: 1

    When I was in the service I was a das3 tech and would help the radio tech's out from time to time. One late night we had a 524 radio that the PS was arching to the chassis. So I stuck some gum I was chewing on the chassis at the point of arching and it stopped. We sent it and never had a complaint.

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    Hurricane Island Outward Bound
    OB
  192. It is modded as funny beacuse is nonsense. by jotaeleemeese · · Score: 1

    The hideout of the incapable technician is the blaming of the user.

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    IANAL but write like a drunk one.
    1. Re:It is modded as funny beacuse is nonsense. by causality · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Obviously you have never worked in a support position.

      The average user doesn't give a damn how it works, doesn't care if their own actions are contributing to the failure(s) experienced, and will resist being educated. The technician who is called in after-the-fact is only half of the equation.

      The way most users handle computing could be compared to approaching your doctor, complaining that there is something wrong with you, and then putting your fingers in your ears and saying "BLAH BLAH I CANT HEAR YOU!!!" when he gives advice or asks if you are willing to undergo some tests. Oh, and then getting pissed off at the doctor when you have the same complaint again. Now, would you say this is the doctor's fault? Similarly, the best technician in the world needs someone willing to work with them in order to truly solve problems instead of merely applying band-aids.

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      It is a miracle that curiosity survives formal education. - Einstein
    2. Re:It is modded as funny beacuse is nonsense. by DeltaHat · · Score: 2, Funny

      I do agree, but selling lusers expensive bandaids can be quite lucrative. I charge $90 an hour to clean out spyware and they keep coming back!

  193. Why? by nurb432 · · Score: 1

    With hardware as cheap a it is, i wouldnt risk my data or time to such nonsence.

    Even back when a cheap pc was 2grand, what is your time/data worth?

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    ---- Booth was a patriot ----
  194. The DEC guy and the rubber chicken story by Egregius · · Score: 1

    In case noone else posted it yet, here's an old story.:

    You laugh, but one of DEC's best field service upper level support guys carried a rubber chicken in his tool box. Once, he got called out to fix a dead 11/70 at a critical installation, where a newspaper was waiting to switch over to electronic composition, and lots of money was being lost while this system wouldn't start. This 3rd level tech got called in when the local guys couldn't fix it. It was a very important account, and high up DEC executives were waiting for his, as well as all the managers of the newspaper. This guy walked around the system for a quick visual inspection, and noticed a loose cable in the back of the thing causing the problem. He plugged it in while no one was watching...and then took out his rubber chicken, danced around the system chanting gibberish and waving the chicken, and then hit the boot button...the system started....the DEC managers wanted to fire him, then kill him, but the newspaper folks, who had a sense of hunmor and were so glad he got it going wouldn't hear of it, and insisted that this guy oversee the installation of this gear at all of their other sites...DEC Field Service guys...some of them, they were like that, back in the day...

  195. the freezer by capybopy · · Score: 1

    My old Amiga used to overheat while I was working on term papers (and playing music, and playing games, at the same time -- back in 1995). When it would do this, no amount of rebooting, or smacking it around would work. First the sound would die, then it wouldn't print, then it would go into guru meditation and wouldn't boot at all. I can only assume this was due to one after the other of the custom chips failing after excessive multitasking in an unairconditioned appartment. If I dropped in from a height of about 3 inches I could get it to boot but the sound and printing were still a no go. So I put it in the freezer (A1200's were nice small machines) for 30 minutes, dropped it a couple times, and printed my paper just in time for class.

  196. Odd things I've experienced lately by downhole · · Score: 1

    The first thing that comes to mind is mysterious printer wackiness on Windows computers. That's almost a post in itself. I'm using a HP 1410 all in one with a Dell Latitude D600 running XP. The printer will only work if it's connected directly to the computer. Plugging it into a USB hub makes Windows think that it's a completely different device, and it wants to install the drivers again. There are certain Excel documents that will not print out entirely on it - it just stops printing and feeds the rest of the page through. Last time, I tried printing to PDF and then printing from Acrobat, and that worked.

    We have a display here (proprietary, explosion-proof, and very expensive) that goes out of whack sometimes. Hitting it usually brings it back.

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    I don't reply to ACs
    1. Re:Odd things I've experienced lately by taara · · Score: 1

      Well. Not so lately. This was at the era of 286 computers. One of the users came complaining that he can't turn the computer off. It was Nokia 286 tower, running MS DOS, with turnable key for power switch. The program was hung. CNTRL-ALT-DEL did nothing. Turning the power key had no effect. Being desperate, I pulled the plug from the wall... The computer did not turn off . Well. The physics laws were not violated. As it turned out - I had pulled the wrong mains and the power switch was faulty. ;)

      The other occasion was with the visitor in the germany. He could log into terminal when typing the password standing up, but failed when typing password sitting before the terminal. Solution: german keyboards have 'z' and 'y' keys swapped. When standing up, he LOOKED at the keys and typed the password correctly. When sitting, he did blind typing and mistyped the password :)

    2. Re:Odd things I've experienced lately by skeptictank · · Score: 1

      I had mutliple routers and modems get burned by lightning coming in the data lines recently. The strange thing was that individual routers and modems would not work with new equipment, but each router was left with one working port that would talk to any of the modems, as long as that modem was online when the strike occurred. All the modems came from different manufacturers.

    3. Re:Odd things I've experienced lately by /dev/trash · · Score: 1

      Aren't all displays explosion proof?

  197. Modem Voodoo by williambbertram · · Score: 1

    I used to have an old white box with an IBM serial mouse, and a Boca 14.4 internal ISA modem. For some reason whenever I called a BBS I would have to smack the top of my computer desk before it would connect. It would just hang there until I smacked the top of the desk. Turns out there was an IRQ conflict with the modem and the mouse. When I was smacking the top of the desk it would jiggle the mouse and (somehow) allow the modem to connect. This went on for about 6 months. Finally I was able to resolve the problem by purchasing a PS/2 mouse.

  198. Cardboard cutout of myself by browman1 · · Score: 1

    The number of times problems have disappeared just with my mere presence, I considered printing up a proxy.

  199. Printer Voodoo by permaculture · · Score: 1

    We have a Hewlett Packard Laserjet 4M+ in our office. If it runs out of paper, it signals 'Paper Jam'. After you refill the paper, you have to open and close the ink cartridge hatch to get it to resume operation.

    It still runs fine though, so we won't replace it until it really craps out.

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    Environmentalism is the new Victorianism. Everyone ties on a green corset and pretends we're virtuous.
  200. Turn the Light Off by gz718 · · Score: 1

    Here's one of my favorite wacky tech stories to tell. Working offsite my boss and I went back to the hotel and were trying to wrap some things up. We had some files that we wanted to get off a USB drive, one of those Firelite 80GB drives which do not require an external power supply, it's just powered off the USB. The drive worked fine earlier in the day, but for some reason it was not turning on when plugged into the laptop. We tried different USB ports, plugged it in a number of times, shoved that cable in good, rebooted, etc but it would never spin up.

    So what's my genius boss do? He turns off the table lamp and immediately the drive turns on. I guess there was some bad wiring in the electrical outlet that was shared by the laptop and table lamp. Once the lamp was no longer on it allowed more juice to flow to the laptop which trickled down to the usb ports.

  201. It's called superstition... by Bytal · · Score: 1

    and even pigeons have it :). B.F. Skinner and Superstitious Pigeons. It's just a basic side effect of automatically associating meaning with events that happen in close proximity in time.

  202. Half of the "help" I read online is voodoo by dschuetz · · Score: 1

    One problem I kept running into when I was still fighting with Windows PCs was that, no matter what odd problem I had, I would always find a half-dozen answers, each different, each saying "Oh, yeah, you have to do /this/" with no real explanation. Half the time, the various answers would even conflict -- "that's an IRQ issue, move it to another slot" or "that's not an IRQ issue, it's a CPU speed issue."

    The big problem was that each answer seemed authoritative -- nobody would hedge their response, say "well, I tried this, and it seemed to work, but I don't know why," no efforts were made at explaining it or even testing to see if it wasn't one of a dozen other things that had actually solved the problem.

    Really, this points to a larger problem, which is the general inability of people to properly troubleshoot, and the further inability (or lack of time) to properly re-test what they think is the solution, in order to fully understand it.

    This isn't as much of a problem in the Linux or especially Mac worlds, becuase inevitably these crazy problems center around hardware, and not software, but there are still some doozies out there.

    I suppose this is what you get when anyone, anywhere, can post anything to just about any kind of forum, and said posting becomes easily searchable. It's just a shame that the scientific method is so far removed from so many of those posters...

  203. Broken motherboard by TheCount22 · · Score: 1

    I once dropped a hammer on a motherboard and cracked the board. The board stopped working and wouldn't power on anymore. A friend of mine who was trying to figure out what was broken accidentally shorted two wires of the ATX power cable and the machine started up again! So finally we soldered on a wire (green and black wire if I recall). The bad thing was that we couldn't stop the machine with the power button anymore so everytime I had to shutdown using the power supply switch.

  204. Keyboard wierdness by Hoi+Polloi · · Score: 1

    My old 486's keyboard had the fat kind of connector, like a ps/2 plug but much bigger. Over time the motherboard connector must've gotten damaged or something odd because the only way for me to get the computer to recognize the keyboard after turning it on was to wiggle the plug up and down in the connector. Sometimes it would just beep like crazy until I got it. In retrospect I think my pc just needed it's port "massaged" before it would let me work.

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  205. Re:I had a 19" CRT that would only work on its' si by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I once had a similar solution for a driver/bios problem at work. Someone working with a linux box Matrox G200 called and told me that rectangles and bitmaps weren't drawn properly or not at all) anymore but everything else seemed to work OK. I logged in to his box, edited the configuration to rotate the screen 90 degrees, told him to log out, turn the monitor accordingly and retry. It actually fixed the problem, since back then, rotating the display would turn off all hardware acceleration. It later turned out that a newer bios for the graphics card was a better fix.

  206. Back in the days: ZX 81 repair tips by ansemond · · Score: 1

    - The ZX81 came with 1K of memory. Most people bought an "16K Expansion pack" that connected to the "Expansion bus" which was simply part of the motherboard coated with aluminium. Thing was, the expansion pack connectors tended to be made of copper. After a while, the whole thing oxidized and you had to clean it with some liquid (alcohol? I can't remember).
    - The ZX81 used tapes, but was very finicky about recognizing them. I remember many a day cleaning my tape-recorder read head with alcohol.

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  207. floppy drive Voodoooo by CODiNE · · Score: 1

    Sometimes after I'd installed a new 3.5" floppy drive in a system the activity light would come on immediately and stay on forever when booted.

    I'm sure some of you already know what I'm talking about here.... You have to take the floppy drive out and turn the computer UPSIDE DOWN!

    Yeah... Sounds crazy I know, but it worked every time!

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    1. Re:floppy drive Voodoooo by SPY_jmr1 · · Score: 1

      All the light means is that the floppy cable was installed backwards; The fix is to reinstall it with the cable on correctly.

      This is common, because on floppy drives, unlike ATA drives, pin 1 is on the opposing side from the power connector, IE, opposite of the other drives in the computer.

    2. Re:floppy drive Voodoooo by CODiNE · · Score: 1

      Yeah I know, nobody got my joke. Thought it was pretty good myself. :-) Turn the computer upside down... heh... WOOSH!

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  208. Hard cards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anyone who remembers hard cards knows you have to slam them against the table quite hard to reset their bearings from time to time.

  209. No morning coffee by LaughingCoder · · Score: 1

    Well this thread is the perfect venue to relate one of my favorite "voodoo" stories.

    Years ago my computer started developing this wierd problem. First thing in the morning I would get myself a coffee and sit down to sift through my email (Outlook). Randomly, while reading an email, the message window would close, leaving me staring at the list of messages again. If I double-clicked the message it would re-open and I could continue reading. These mysterious disappearing message boxes would happen once or twice a week, but only early in the morning. I tolerated it for months ... then one time when it happened I realized what was going on. Turns out I had a keyboard on one of those sliding keyboard trays. I put my coffee mug on the desk, up above the keyboard. Occassionally when I would lean forward to pick up my coffee (which I usually did after bringing up a message box), my stomach would nudge the keyboard tray forward. Now, if you look on your keyboard you will see the ESC key in the upper left corner. Well, as the keyboard moved ever so slightly forward, the desktop (above the keyboard tray) would lightly press against the ESC key, closing the window. And of course as soon as I picked up my coffee mug I would lean back in my chair, which released the ESC key (so I didn't hear the tell-tale beeps of a key being held down). Well, the obvious solution to this problem was to give up coffee ;-)

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  210. not vodoo, but made for impressive demos by david_bonn · · Score: 1

    I worked at a company (mercifully long out of business) that was psychotically cheap.

    Apparently one day they needed some screws, and rather than going to the hardware store and spending three bucks, they dragooned several people into spending most of a day removing "extra" screws from peecees around the office. I said they were psychotically cheap.

    Anyway, two of the four screws attaching my motherboard to the case were removed. After that irregular modification, I could reboot my machine by smacking the case (apparently causing a short circuit). Some weeks later I was demoing the forgettable latest software revision of the company's product to some directors and other bigwigs. Of course, during the demo the software went a little crazy. I looked at the screen carefully, slid my right hand along the case like I was looking for something, and at a seemingly (to the audience) random point hit the case HARD.

    The machine instantly rebooted, of course.

    My technical virtuosity was never, ever questioned during the six months I remained at that company.

  211. Give users the touch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I used to do user support in a lab full of smart guys. I would always say "I'll be right over" and then wait fifteen minutes. When I got there the problem would be solved.

  212. My username is Vudufixit... how apt! by vudufixit · · Score: 1

    This is the exact sort of thing that inspired me to choose it as a Slashdot username!

  213. Weird stuff by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here's some weird computer voodoo, and it seems to be replicable almost anywhere but in MS's labs. I installed Windows 2000 on a PC with a SB Live! Value in it, and also on another PC with an Audigy. Now randomly on boot, the PC won't see the sound cards.

    Also, on a completely "normal" PC, Windows takes various amounts of time to start up. It's not always the same. Yet, computers are just 0s and 1s, they're logic, they're not variable. Also what's not always the same is sometimes the USB mouse is detected and sometimes it's not.

    Back when Windows 98 was around, I used to start up and randomly there would be fonts and GUI widgets missing. Sometimes everything would appear normal.

    In Windows 2000 also, when I used the Win+D shortcut to minimize everything, sometimes the taskbar would disappear and sometimes it wouldn't. Sometimes when I opened a "Favorite" in Internet Explorer, it would open in a different window than the one I selected. Sometimes in Internet Explorer, clicks aren't even recognized even though you can tell somewhere in the system the click had registered, because the "dotted outline" selection cursor (or whatever it's called) is around the link I wanted to open.

    It's very odd that sometimes there is a certain behaviour and other times there isn't, even when nothing else on the system has changed.

  214. Cup Sensor? by SmashedSqwurl · · Score: 1

    I have a friend who once dropped an EMPTY plastic cup on top of his computer. His PC restarted, and as soon as Windows came back up, his sound card didn't work. Somehow, dropping the cup on his PC corrupted his sound card drivers!

    1. Re:Cup Sensor? by alienmole · · Score: 1

      There's not much mystery about that kind of thing. First of all, any computer that reboots because you drop a cup on its case is probably flaky in the first place - either a poorly homebuilt machine, or a very cheap commercial one. The impact probably caused something to flex, which shorted something out and caused the reboots. Secondly, since the machine didn't properly shut down, it's not unusual to get disk corruption as a result of that.

  215. Keeping machines off for awhile by davidwr · · Score: 1

    Back in the DOS days, some PCs had crappy power supplies or motherboards. If you left them off for LESS than 2-3 seconds, the memory wouldn't clear and you'd have a garbaged system. Naturally, the cure was to leave the computer off for "longer" - long enough for everything but the cmos to lose voltage.

    Another problem, one that's probably more severe today, is heat. If a computer is overheating, leaving it off for longer definately helps.

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  216. More Magic! by pobster · · Score: 1

    I'm surprised no one has posted this yet: http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/magic-story.html To be honest there have been so many incidents that most have simply been forgotten. One recent one was a PC that didn't get past POST until a USB webcam was unplugged, then it booted fine, even with said webcam reattached to the same port. One which I liked was a friends laptop that would not do anything. Black screen, no sounds, nothing. I just press the on button for just over a second and it works fine ever after... I was known as having a magic touch after that :)

  217. Strange fixes by beavt8r · · Score: 1

    At the school system where I used to work, we had a librarian's computer that would periodically not boot. We tried to see what it was on site, but to no avail. We took it from that school to our central computer fixing place to take a longer look. (it was about a half an hour away) When we turned it on the next day, it booted fine. No problems at all. We took it back to the school and it was fine, until the next time it decided to not boot. Again, we took it back and magically worked fine, same scenario as before. So we tried leaving it unplugged overnight to simulate being at the other place, thinking that would do it. Nope. So we took it back, and of course it worked. So, the 'fix' to the problem was to take it back to the office, leave it in the van, then take it back the next day and everything worked just fine.

  218. Re:The CD ROM Voodoo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I had a similar problem with my last DVD burner. Audio would play mostly fine (except for a strange click at the beginning of every track), but data would always be currupted.

    SHAKE: Why don't you go check the gutters?
    FRYLOCK: Why would it be up in the gutters, Shake?
    SHAKE: That's where your DVD burner ended up when it decided not to work.
    FRYLOCK: Oh, I damn sure better not find that up there.
    SHAKE: Well, that's the last place I remember chucking it.

  219. Here is a good one. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A friend of mine built his own computer.

    However from the start he always had a weird problem with the start button - he would press the button, and it would turn on, but when he let it out it would almost always turn off.

    He would have to press it just right in a certain, random sequence to get the thing to turn on.
    Sometimes he would spend 10 or 20 minutes just trying to get the thing to stay on.

    Two years later, for one reason or another he ends up getting a new video card and asks me to install it.
    I notice what a pain in the butt this problem is, and check out the insides of the case.

    It turns out he had his reset pins wired the power switch, and vice-versa.
    I'm not sure how he could press the power/reset button in a strange enough way to get the machine to stay on, but it did work with some effort for three years before I found it.

    Also, I have an older RCA tv that will randomly change to whats playing on channel 66, no matter what channel you're on.

    If you smack the heck out of it on the back of the TV, it rights itself, at least for a while.

  220. Commodore 1541 Floppy drive by ProfitAlaKing · · Score: 1

    I remember the first floppy drive that I ever owned, a Commodore 1541(what an upgrade! I was using the Commodore Datasette).I purchased it from a friend (?). He said it wasn't working any longer and I could have it for $5 USD. 'SOLD!' I said, and took it home. Well, he was right. It didn't work. It turned on, and all the noises indicated it was running. But in name only. No files would load. Then I logged on to a local BBS and the sysop told me that the first production run of these 1541 drives had a defect. Something about the heads not being secured properly so they could come out of allignment with use. Even very infrequent use as it turns out. Back on point, sysop tells me to remove the cover of the drive and locate the cylindrical read/write head unit. Now, with your trusty screwdriver loosen the one (yes, just one) screw that holds it all together and start manipulating it as you attempt to load a file (LOAD "$",8), which I did. And then, after some clickety-clacketys, voila! success! Alas, the fix lasted only a few days at best. But enough to get some good games of Dino Eggs in! I still have that miserable 1541 POS somewhere in the house.

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  221. Timer woe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have a HP zv6000 laptop, which has an issue with linux 32 bit(many distros, kernels, custom and stock)... the system timer runs twice as fast, which doubles the rate of time, videos, music, games, etc. In Linux 64 bit however this isn't a problem with newer 2.6 kernels... however I could not get the propreitary ati driver to compile or run in accelerated mode. So I found myself dual booting 32 bit (double timer) and 64 bit (buggy and slow graphics). I found myself googling, searching forums, and sending emails to hp (none of which were responded), however no amount of boot-time options or custom kernel recompiles, distro reinstalls alievated my problem. Fortunatly a BIOS update from HP fixed the problem (but of course it required Windows, the OS which isn't affected by the buggy hardware).

  222. ATI Radeon cards by pVoid · · Score: 1
    I have a radeon 9800, and only a 250W psu.

    My computer works. But if I turn it off, and then turn it on again some time later, the POST screen never comes on. Either I get a blank screen or a screen with red text that says my ATI needs to be connected to a power source (hdd style power cable).

    At first, I thought this was a connection issue. I would open the box, wiggle the board, wiggle the power cable. Switch the power cables... and after a certain mysterious combination, it would work. And no problems then on.

    Then one day, I turned on my computer, and I had to do something. It just sat there with a black screen. I came back and restarted it and it just worked.

    That is when I think I understood what the problem is: I say it must be a capacitor the doesn't fill up fast enough on initial boot that makes the card think that it's not connected to a power source. But if you leave it on for a few minutes to 'warm up', it just works. Of course, the fiddling around masked the fact that it was staying on for that crucial amount of time, and made me think that the voodoo was that.

    It's still all conjecture, but yeah, that's my voodoo.

    1. Re:ATI Radeon cards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hard drive spin up.

  223. Software voodoo by madpianoskills · · Score: 1

    I have a piece of MIDI authoring software that was released in 1995 (MIDISoft Studio, for anyone who wishes to know). I got it for free with a new PC way back when, and with each new computer since, I have made it work...until now. I got a Dell, and MIDISoft worked fine up until I installed a new Audigy 2 card (ironic, I know), and it stopped working. The software would start up fine, but if I tried to open anything, it gave me an error saying that I was out of memory. I have not seen such an error since the days of Win 3.x, but knowing the software to be an old coot in young territory, I played around with compatibility and memory settings to try and fool it - to no avail. Not that I expected XP's "Run in Windows 9x Mode" to work anyway.

    Now, I was slightly terrified because a) I loved my MIDISoft like I loved my then fiance, and b) our wedding recessional was written in that software, stored in their proprietary format, and irretrievable until I fixed it, and the wedding was only two weeks away - not enough time to reconstruct the piece. So I tried every other MIDI software known to man (except for the stuff you have to pay for), but none of it could read the file, nor did I like the interfaces. I'd used one piece of software for ten years - I wasn't planning to change.

    Then, one day (I won't go into detail on how I discovered this) I found that if I had Firefox, Windows Media Player and Trillian open at the same time, MIDISoft would work. AIM was insufficient - it had to be Trillian, and IE would not take the place of Firefox. I didn't try WinAmp instead of WinMP. Close any one of those three and *poof* functionality disappeared. As long as they were open, however, MIDISoft was happy.

    Epilogue: Shortly after the wedding (which went off without a hitch, BTW), I had to reinstall Windows, and MIDISoft hasn't worked since. Even with those three programs open. *Sniff* But, that's my computer voodoo story!

  224. Wierd ADSL filter by TheThiefMaster · · Score: 1
    This one's confusing:

    We got broadband, and had to install adsl filters on every phone socket. After a few months, we started having phone trouble, specifically that people couldn't ring us. We could pick up the phone, get a dial tone, and dial out, but sometimes if someone tried to ring us then it would give a busy tone (without us being on the phone at the time). At first we blamed my sister for being on the phone too much, but then the problem worsened. One day I got a call from home (I'd gone to uni by then) and there was bad static on the line. I rang back and the call was fine. The next week it was fine, but I was told that several calls to different people that week had had noise very much like old dial-up internet "static". I agreed to look into it when I got back in a few weeks.

    When I got home the problem had worsened even more to the point where no phones in the house had a dial tone any more and no calls were possible. The internet was working, so I tried unplugging the modem data cable to see what happened, but we still had no dial tone, so I figured that it must not be the internet interfering. I tried plugging one phone into the master phone socket, which normally has a line in it running to the other sockets in the house, so unplugging this isolated all the other phones. Problem gone. Ok, so it wasn't the line, it was something in the house. I went around and unplugged everything from every phone socket, then reconnected the sockets to the master, and plugged back in the phone I'd used earlier. All fine.

    So I plugged things in one-by one until every socket was filled again except the pc's one. Everything working fine. This was odd, because I'd tried unplugging the modem earlier and the problem was still there. A quick glance under the desk gave the difference: this time I'd unplugged the adsl filter as well, and not just the modem. A little experimenting confirmed that whenever this filter was plugged into a phone socket, even with nothing plugged into the filter, every phone in the house went dead. I guess it had a short in it or something, but that wouldn't explain the earlier problems we were having, especially the "people sometimes can't ring us" one.

    I wonder how long it would have taken a bt engineer to find it?

  225. Modem by zaunuz · · Score: 1

    Many years ago i had this problem with my modem.. It simply would not work, so i uninstalled the driver, then rebooted. It worked.. wow, not exactly voodo, but the funny thing was that this happended every time. If i booted my PC without having the drivers reinstalled, my modem simply was dead, so i made an habit out of it: Each time I was about to shut down my pc, i remembered to uninstall the drivers.
    Well, afterall, it was Windows 95, so the fact that strange things occured aren't really that strange at all, i guess.

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  226. "Impact Maintenance" by v1 · · Score: 1

    That's what I call it. One place I worked, the main stats machine (PC) every now and then would not boot. I found out later that the fix was to lift it up off the ground one inch, press the power button, and drop it to the tile floor.

    When I discovered that this was actually their written procedure, that HD got replaced that evening.

    But serously, there really are people out there that naive to believe that, whatever the reason, if it works, Impact Maintenance is an accepted procedure.

    Freezing hard drives also seems to be a point of contention. It does work. Not often, but it does work. If a drive refuses to spin up, or starts and immediately spins back down, there's about a 1 in 6 chance that cooling it will help long enough to get your data off.

    My favorite though is the millenium falcon when Han smacks the dashboard to get it to boot up.

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    I work for the Department of Redundancy Department.
  227. This one actually makes sense. by Stormbringer · · Score: 1

    I've seen this one, and the cause for it, in equipment I've acquired.

    That "fat kind of connector, like a ps/2 plug but much bigger" is a 5-pin DIN plug. The mechanical forces one of those connectors can couple into the mating jack without crumpling can sometimes tear the mating jack loose from its soldering, especially if the motherboard manufacturer doesn't spec a jack with mounting tabs, or doesn't provide solderable plated feedthrus for them, and especially if the solder in the waveflow soldering machine was getting a bit tired when that board went through.

    With one (or more) contacts loose in its feedthru, and mating surfaces oxiding on exposure to air, you sometimes do have to treat it like a knife-switch, moving it back and forth to make it self-wipe and make electrical contact.

    The real fix, of course, is touch-up soldering of the loosened contacts, but that's a skill to develop elsewhere, not on a computer you care about. The next best fix, once you get the connection working, is to tie down the cable so it can't move from that position.

  228. Most bizare voodoo by fungai · · Score: 1

    true story.

    in about 1997 or so, me and my colleague were synical unix admins, who laughed at most microsoft products. (for what it is worth, i don't belittle them out of principle any more). in any case, we ran linux on our desktops. my friend got a new mouse - a microsoft mouse. no matter what we tried, we could not get it to work under linux. dead as dead. so as a joke, my colleague used tippex (same as wite-out and liquid paper) to remove the microsoft name from the mouse and with a pen wrote 'hyundai' or something similarly stupid on the mouse. he plugged it back in - and suddenly it worked. i kid you not.

  229. Commodore VooDoo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I used to have "backup" copies of my C64 games. Raid Over Moscow (I think it was that game) must have used some sort of disk error based copy protection. The only way to run the copy was to issue the run command and then immediately unlatch the drive lever. That would move drive head away from the disk and create an error. Once I heard the drive click a few times, I could then relatch the drive. The game would then run perfectly.

  230. Re:The cause and solution to all of life's problem by CanadianBoy · · Score: 1

    Just ask the Czechs

  231. sync, sync, sync, halt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually, three times isn't exactly voodoo; older unices wouldn't block on the second sync either.

    So typing sync, (enter), sync, (enter), sync, (enter), halt, (enter) slowed the operator down enough that there was enough time between the first sync and the halt for the synchronisation to actually happen. It's basically a meatware hack, and since it's a nice easy memorable one it stuck.

  232. better than blowing by thestallion · · Score: 1

    As a veteran NES user, my friends and I have discovered two tricks that are far superior to simply blowing the cartridge. The NES much prefers that you gently release slow, hot, and heavy breath upon the cartridge, for a good 5-10 seconds. The point is that the moisture from your breath collects on the connectors and aids in transmitting the signal between the console and cartridge. Simply blowing on it has a far lower success rate in my experience.

    The other important trick is, as you slide the cartridge into the console slot, push it in as little as possible, just enough that you can then push down and have it click into place. If you slide it all the way back it will be much less likely to work.

    Some people have been shocked to see me use these techniques and get cartidges to work that hadn't in years...

    1. Re:better than blowing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd be careful with that "hot heavy" breath thing--I knew a guy who worked at Nintendo back in the day and he said that can cause corrosion in the carts and in the system.

      -Rick

    2. Re:better than blowing by thestallion · · Score: 1

      I completely believe that, in fact I've always been concerned that might be a side effect. I've also noticed that once I have to resort to doing that for a cartridge to work, its lifespan seems to deplete at a slightly accelerated rate. Still, you can play games for years that may not otherwise work at all by using my technique.

  233. *Hangs head in shame* by Valdrax · · Score: 1

    Whenever I used a Mac running one of the earlier systems, I always tried to have some lightweight audio app running. It accomplished the samething without all the hassle.

    [Pauses.]
    [Rereads post in bewildered disbelief and the horror of dawning realization.]
    [Smacks forehead repeatedly into desk in shame.]

    Now I wish I hadn't recycled the machine years ago so that I could try this out and see if it would work ADB and audio shared the same portion of the bus. I feel like a clever idiot now.

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    If it's for-profit but free, you're not the customer -- you're the product (e.g., the Slashdot Beta's "audience").
  234. This is *still* my favourite "Vodoo" story!! by tekvax · · Score: 1

    http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/magic-story.html

    A Story About 'Magic'

    Some years ago, I (GLS) was snooping around in the cabinets that housed the MIT AI Lab's PDP-10, and noticed a little switch glued to the frame of one cabinet. It was obviously a homebrew job, added by one of the lab's hardware hackers (no one knows who).

    You don't touch an unknown switch on a computer without knowing what it does, because you might crash the computer. The switch was labeled in a most unhelpful way. It had two positions, and scrawled in pencil on the metal switch body were the words 'magic' and 'more magic'. The switch was in the 'more magic' position.

    I called another hacker over to look at it. He had never seen the switch before either. Closer examination revealed that the switch had only one wire running to it! The other end of the wire did disappear into the maze of wires inside the computer, but it's a basic fact of electricity that a switch can't do anything unless there are two wires connected to it. This switch had a wire connected on one side and no wire on its other side.

    It was clear that this switch was someone's idea of a silly joke. Convinced by our reasoning that the switch was inoperative, we flipped it. The computer instantly crashed.

    Imagine our utter astonishment. We wrote it off as coincidence, but nevertheless restored the switch to the 'more magic' position before reviving the computer.

    A year later, I told this story to yet another hacker, David Moon as I recall. He clearly doubted my sanity, or suspected me of a supernatural belief in the power of this switch, or perhaps thought I was fooling him with a bogus saga. To prove it to him, I showed him the very switch, still glued to the cabinet frame with only one wire connected to it, still in the 'more magic' position. We scrutinized the switch and its lone connection, and found that the other end of the wire, though connected to the computer wiring, was connected to a ground pin. That clearly made the switch doubly useless: not only was it electrically nonoperative, but it was connected to a place that couldn't affect anything anyway. So we flipped the switch.

    The computer promptly crashed.

    This time we ran for Richard Greenblatt, a long-time MIT hacker, who was close at hand. He had never noticed the switch before, either. He inspected it, concluded it was useless, got some diagonal cutters and diked it out. We then revived the computer and it has run fine ever since.

    We still don't know how the switch crashed the machine. There is a theory that some circuit near the ground pin was marginal, and flipping the switch changed the electrical capacitance enough to upset the circuit as millionth-of-a-second pulses went through it. But we'll never know for sure; all we can really say is that the switch was magic.

    I still have that switch in my basement. Maybe I'm silly, but I usually keep it set on 'more magic'.

    1994: Another explanation of this story has since been offered. Note that the switch body was metal. Suppose that the non-connected side of the switch was connected to the switch body (usually the body is connected to a separate earth lug, but there are exceptions). The body is connected to the computer case, which is, presumably, grounded. Now the circuit ground within the machine isn't necessarily at the same potential as the case ground, so flipping the switch connected the circuit ground to the case ground, causing a voltage drop/jump which reset the machine. This was probably discovered by someone who found out the hard way that there was a potential difference between the two, and who then wired in the switch as a joke.

  235. It's not rose-tinted glasses for me. by Valdrax · · Score: 1

    I do remember errors and crashes, but they weren't as important to me as having a desktop metaphor that just worked. Remember pop-up folders? Remember how you used to be able to organize programs in the Apple menu? Remember how the File, Edit, etc. menus never used to move around on you? Remember icon and list views that actually maintained consistency? Remember how creator/filetype codes actually worked (when you didn't have to interact with files from foreign systems)?

    I think the reason I stopped loving the Mac OS was the Dock. That horrible abomination. The Dock put an end to pop-up folders. It put an end to launching programs from the Apple menu. It put an end to knowing where your applications were so that you could open them without even really looking at them. It put and end to window-shading and replaced it with the mouse-over hunt-and-peck for minimized windows.

    The Dock embodies everything that is bad about the Windows taskbar but manages to do it all worse. It's a terrible application launcher, a terrible running program manager, and generally a terrible waste of desktop space just to be pretty. Oh, and I hate have the trash move around.

    The sad thing is that since Mac OS X came along, I've completely stopped using the Finder and now only use the Terminal to manipulate files and launch applications. Irony of ironies -- Apple has made me a predominantly CLI user.

    For that reason, and that reason alone, I vociferiously HATE Mac OS X. It killed everything that made me love the Mac in exchange for fixing all the things I really didn't care that much about -- a trade-off that didn't have to be made. They could've had both like the started to in the early days of Rhapsody, but no -- Jobs wanted the Dock and he wanted something "lickable." I still use Mac OS X, and even recently bought a Mac Mini to replace my aging, first-revision PowerMac G4, but I'm primarily a Linux user now.

    I just still have need for a few apps, but that's as far as my loyalty to the platform goes. I'll be happy when I can one day just simply ditch it and stop paying a premium for an OS I drive by CLI that doesn't even have a good way of organizing your workspace.

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  236. You *can* distinguish technology from magic by Myria · · Score: 1

    Magic violates the first and/or second law of thermodynamics. Technology does not.

    Even if you got ahold of an alien spacecraft from an advanced civilization, you would be able to identify its energy source and heat vent.

    Melissa

    --
    "Screw Sun, cross-platform will never work. Let's move on and steal the Java language." - Visual J++ Product Manager
  237. What Worked?...The Last Thing I Tried by Cycloid+Torus · · Score: 1

    Bad Motherboard? - took it out, pulled CPU and HS, turned it upside down, dropped it 6 inches onto desk - copper bits in slots came out

    Bad Power Supply? - pulled, shook, stuff came out (solder this time)

    Noisy Fan? - pulled off label, WD-40, taped - still running 2 years later

    Jammed 3.5" FD? - removed, openned slot, shook, credit card came out (3 year old was learning how to use the Home ATM)

    Laser Cart Runout? - holed, copier toner poured, 3000 pages later..

    Vent Fan Thermal Sensor (small cricket disk actuator for 24v) - pulled, cleaned in WD-40 (love this stuff!!); rinsed in 90% alcohol - still working 15 months

    Worst One? - Ford Escort kept spitting out spark plug wires, push them on and drive an hour - ptouie! - put on barbecue glove and pushed on while HOT - no ptouie

    Frankly, what works just works - it's the attitude that matters most.

    --
    Lost in space at an early age. Survived the vacuum. Now rebuilding castle in air.
  238. splilt beer by CranberryKing · · Score: 1

    I had an PIII ASUS mobo that had everything integrated. I lied to the system and used some unsupported components that were newer/faster than the mobo was rated for. It was always unstable under heavy load. One day I knocked over a two day old beer and pretty much soaked the mobo (that's what I get for leaving the case open all the time and not using the no-beverage rule that I impose at work). I wiped it up as much as I could & thought about washing with water but didn't want to risk that either. After everythng was dry, I didn't think it would boot but it did AND the instability issue was 'fixed'.

  239. boot up by GizmoRevenj · · Score: 1

    heh, I remember I had to tilt my old PC 45 degress or else it wouldnt start up

  240. Pull the plug... then put it back. by WinBreak · · Score: 1
    First off, EXCELLENT question, and what better place to ask!?

    My moment of Computer Voodoo that I've seen work for me MORE than once (two laptops, and a desktop, to my immediate recollection) - a machine that refused to start when you pushed the power button - or else components would come up to speed but the screen would remain black and no beep code occured...

    I pulled the power cord from the unit, left the cord plugged in to the wall (in the laptop's case, the battery was @ 0% capacity, so it wouldn't turn on without being plugged in), HELD the power button down, and plugged the unit back in. It fired up immediately.

    No rhyme or reason. But it's become one of my 'last ditch effort' tricks in the bag.

  241. Wrong hard drive booting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have 2 hard drives, both bootable, but sometimes the secondary drive boots up instead of the primary. I have no idea why this happens. It's rare, but it does happen from time to time.

  242. PS2 fix by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Me and my house mates had a PS2 at our house it was a very old one after a while it started geting very unreliable freazeing up games not loading etc. Anyways after a while it got to the stage where was totaly unusable so my mates for a joke suggested doing the drop test on it he said pick it up about half a meter when it freezes then drop it. to my absolute amazment it worked got another month out of that PS2 before even the drop test couldnt help it. We did have to drop it 6 times an hour to keep it going though. we got some proper funny looks from people when they came round :)

  243. Re:The best way to fix the PC-problem is to get a by toddestan · · Score: 1

    Given many of Apple's overly generic error messages, I always kind of thought troubleshooting a misbehaving Mac as kind of voodoo, as you would just try stuff at random until it went away. Though maybe OSX is better at that now, or at the very least you see the error messages a lot less.

  244. Strange printer problem by kasperd · · Score: 1

    My parents had a PC where the printer would report "input jam" whenever trying to print anything. Interestingly it printed just fine when connected to my Amiga. To make matters even more strange, it was unable to even print a testpage, if it was connected to the PC.

    My thought after seeing those symptoms was, that maybee the PC was infected with some kind of virus. However even when the PC was turned off, the printer couldn't print a test page, only when the printer cable was disconnected could it print.

    The printer was still covered by waranty and was sent for a repair, and the paper tray was switched, which solved the problem. How a defective paper tray would only be a problem while the printer was hooked up to the PC is beyond me.

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    Do you care about the security of your wireless mouse?
  245. Laptop drive by Wiseleo · · Score: 1

    Long story short:

    T20 laptop, originally shipped with 98
    User upgrades to XP Home. Setup completes. User activates normal video resolution. System crashes with persistent bluescreens.
    I look at the thing. Bad CD drive? Yes. Can this thing boot from a USB CD drive? You need a T21 for that!
    I dig up an antique Win98 CD and do an upgrade to Home on that. Works! I run convert to NTFS. Same bluescreens.
    Redo the effort, install XP Home from scratch but on FAT32 vs. NTFS. Works to this day without any issues. Instruction to the user - any tech you'll take this to will want to run convert on this machine. Please tell them if they do that the machine will not function.

    --
    Leonid S. Knyshov
    Find me on Quora :)
  246. To this day I cant explain it by Lithdren · · Score: 1

    I once had a computer shipped to me from a friend a few time-zones away. The shipper completly screwed up the package, and as a result some damage happened to the components. I was able to get everything working, installed windows, ect. Worked great, I was quite happy that I was wrong about there being damage done *particularly to the motherboard*. So I put in a CD for a game to re-install, played a bit, computer crashed. I rebooted, and it failed to find an OS, or even a Hard Drive. Confused, I tried a few more times, then put in the windows xp CD to see what it had to say..and it booted into windows from the hard drive. I removed the CD-rom..rebooted...failed to find the hard drive. For whatever reason, this computer would ONLY boot, and find the hard drive, if the windows xp cd was in the CD rom. I still cant explain this.

    1. Re:To this day I cant explain it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I had a similar problem and its that you NT loader is corrupt. By default if you NT loader is corrupt it will try and pull it from the XP cd. See if you can repair it and it should work fine.

  247. Says you by lucm · · Score: 1

    It might violates the laws of thermodynamics according to our current scientific achievements. But science has a way of proving itself wrong over time... so I'd rather believe in magic than state that if there was such a thing as aliens then their spaceship would definitely have "heat vent". But that's just me!

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    lucm, indeed.
  248. offtopic: quote reference? by magnamous · · Score: 1
    "The price good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." -Plato
    I'm just curious if you know which of Plato's works that quote comes from. (When I find interesting quotes in sigs, I like to look them up and get a feel for their surrounding context.) Thanks!
  249. Weirdness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I finally got my terrabyte of disk space I'd been promising myself, all RAIDed.
    I get a super-duper SCSI card. All of my PCI slots are used up when I'm done.
    Boot up, use, no problems. Until I get myself a USB reader for CF/MMC/SM/everything.
    I need to read a CF card. Plug in, read. I leave it there.
    Days pass.
    I need to reboot. BIOS startup hangs.
    Swap RAID card PCI slots. BIOS hangs.
    Take RAID out, BIOS hangs
    Take SCSI out, BIOS hangs
    Take everything but the video card out, BIOS hangs
    Unscrew motherboard, check everything, rebuild PC, reboot
    BIOS hangs

    UNPLUG USB READER

    PC boots :P

    Check BIOS options - none for USB device booting.

    Gaaaaaaaaaaaah! I learned my lesson (It's a Syntax motherboard)

  250. Amiga 500 universal problem solution by polemistes · · Score: 1

    Well, I did have an Amiga 500 once, it wasn't easy to get hold of. A friend of mine came to the shop 10 minutes before me, and got one. I had to wait two weeks. I'm not quite over that yet. Still, I got Amiga number 1172 or something, and it was like coming to heaven (at least after filling the extra 256kb slot and getting the extra disk drive). But then, out of the blue, it stopped working, or some things stopped working, that worked on all my friends' Amigas. A game would crash at some arbitary place, or at the same place every time, or some disk wouldn't be read, or the machine just wouldn't start, or it gave a strange noice, or whatever. Sometimes it was my Amiga, other times someone else's. Luckily, we had some sort of instinct that told us what to do. Of course we had to twist it. So we lifted the Amiga up and twisted. And it worked. Every time. Of course sometimes it was the disk's fault. But not to despair. The simple solution was to throw it hard on the wall, two or three times. It worked every time as well.

  251. Do Not Modify Spell or Ritual by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It became pretty clear to me with Win95 that I had to follow a spellbook just to get all of my software installed, otherwise it wouldn't work or unexplained things would happen.

    This continues even with XP as I can attest to, having just gone through a 4X clean install to figure out what had to be installed first instead of it "Just Works".

  252. Reseating Cards by tmjva · · Score: 1

    About twenty years ago it was a common practice to remove and re-insert cards in an HP2680A terminal. It was explained to me the (gold plated) leads somehow lost their connectivity. Since the cards DID wobble a little, I accepted it as a plausible explanation. It usually worked too.

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    Tracy Johnson
    Old fashioned text games hosted below:
    http://empire.openmpe.com/
    BT
  253. My ipod works by voodoo by embeejay · · Score: 1

    For some reason my ipod (gen 3) often freezes so none of the buttons work anymore ie. you can't control it or turn it off in any way.

    I found out by pure chance that blowing very hard into the bottom connection port several times will unfreeze it. I have no explanation to why this works, but it does, and has worked for over a year now - otherwise the ipod works fine, and i have no idea why it ever started freezing.

  254. PC LOAD LETTER by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    WHAT THE F*CK DOES THAT MEAN?

  255. CD-eating CD-ROM drive by felix_stegerman · · Score: 1

    I had a CD-ROM drive once that would "eat" my CD's. Whenever you put a CD in it, closed the tray, and reopened it, it would be empty. Closing and reopening it would make the CD reappear. ;-)

    - Felix

    --
    "Any sufficiently advanced bug is indistinguishable from a feature." -- R. Kulawiec
  256. install linux on bad windows/dos drive by brucewestfall · · Score: 1

    My old boss's son had a computer that would not format the drive. Once the DOS reformat command (which I have happily forgotten) was typed, it would say "Reformatting 1%" then go to 0% and hang indefinitely. I inserted a Mandrake CD, and it installed fine. Worked for at least another year, actually booting into DOS for the CNC program to run the router we had. I always use this story to show how Linux is not only EASIER, but POSSIBLE to install on equipment Windoze gags on...

  257. jiggle the handle by Nathonix · · Score: 1

    ive had to jiggle the ram and videocard before booting and older machine.

    if i didnt jiggle the ram, it wouldnt be recognized, if i didnt jiggle the videocard, it wouldnt boot.

    --
    Soap box, Ballot box, Jury box, Ammo box. Use in that order.
  258. Count Zero? by AKira47 · · Score: 1

    What? No Count Zero references? You people call yourselves nerds?

  259. repair permissions by farranco · · Score: 1

    The silver bullet on a Mac, repair permissions, always works.

  260. 8-bit NES voodoo by Risen888 · · Score: 1

    After seeing some replies talking about old NES tricks, I decided to share mine. I have an old-school, side-load, Model 1 NES. Got it for xmas when I was six. It has long since passed the point where the "Breath of Life" will do it, but...it will work if (and only if) the console is upside down. I don't even remember now how I discovered this anomoly, but I swear to Christ it's true. It worked like that, uninterrupted and unmoved, for years. Then I moved into my new house, and my girlfriend hooked up the NES. Upside right. Wouldn't work. Flip it, it never fails. Let me emphasize, this is an original, first production run NES, circa 1985. And it has been running like a champ for going on twenty years.

    I'm gonna go play some 1943 now...

    --
    Hey, I finally got my first freak! Took you long enough!
    1. Re:8-bit NES voodoo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Replace the 72 pin connector and you cna have it upright, they are cheap on ebay. All teh flashing red light and scrambled games are mostly because of the connector corroding or being bent. Worked for mine. Funny that the one I replaced didnt look corroded or bent in any way.

  261. smug grin... by bandmassa · · Score: 1

    ...this is why I choose a Mac every time, and I mean EVERY time, I have the choice. I spend 8 hours every weekday at a dozer inflicted on my by my employer doing this sort of crap all the time. Every Mac I have ever owned has simply worked. Like the rolex, they take a licking yet keep on ticking. Only time I've lost a Mac is to the 2nd law of thermodynamics (oh, and a bastard melbourne airport baggage handler who dropped my old PB1400 too hard a few years back, but even that was more due to age, wear and tear.) I got 9 years of happy (if slow) work out of my old clock-chipped 6100 66av (spun out to 88Mhz) and it was running 9.2 and photoshop 5.5 quite nicely right up until it died of a mobo failure, prolly heat related.

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    "I hope you like Guinness, Sir. I find it a refreshing substitute for, er... food." Col. Jack O'Neil, SG-1
  262. Blow on the motherboard to keep it from freezing by silverdirk · · Score: 1

    I once helped a friend build a new comp, and it would freeze after about 15 mins of Warcraft 3. I suspected overheating, so I opened up the case and felt components to see which were overheating... nothing obvious. So, I tried blowing on the motherboard near the ram... and it unfroze! and then re-froze. The hilarious part was that a fan didn't seem to do the trick- it had to be a human blowing on it. so i spent the next 2 minutes blowing on the motherboard while he tried navigating the menus to get back out of warcraft. I guess the part that was really wierd was that the comp didn't bluescreen. It would just freeze until the temperature came back down, and then resume operation like nothing was wrong. He later RMA'd the thing to get one that was less tempermental.

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    Mark of the Coder fades from you. You perform Opening on World of Warcraft. Warcraft crits GPA for 4. GPA dies.
  263. USB, hotpluggable right? by dfries · · Score: 1

    They say that USB is hot pluggable, but I've stopped hotplugging keyboards at work after two beeped and powered off in exactly the same way when I hot plugged a USB keyboard in. These aren't cheap computers either, they are rackmountable cases with high end motherboards and cpus.

  264. Re:Fix for that error by halcyon1234 · · Score: 1
    However, after I installed the card, Windows 2000 would crash with the following BSOD: DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL *** STOP: 0X000000D1 (0X0191A400,0X00000002,0X00000001,0XF828B908) *** NETR33X.SYS - Address F828B908 base at F827B000, Datestamp 3ecdaf93 Annoying as heck-- somewhat expected from a cheap network card.

    I used to get that error all the time with my Windows 2000 machine. After a lot of looking around, I finally got a solution. It's a driver issue. The latest drivers suck. Downgrade by one driver revision. Can't remember the numbers, but just check to see what the latest 2000 drivers are, and go back by one.

  265. 6th sense fan by Gunstick · · Score: 1

    My fan was making noise, I tried everything but visibly the bearings were worn out. So I got a new one. When I came home to replace it, the old fan didn't make any noise anymore. And it is still silent today. The new fan sits on top of the case. I think as soon as I remove it, the old fan will get noisy again :-)

    --
    Atari rules... ermm... ruled.
  266. Loose VGA connectors by phorm · · Score: 1

    I had quite a few monitors at work (which happened to be a school) where the VGA connector would come loose just inside the machine. Kids would complain about having a blue/pink-hued screen, at which point I would walk over, and firmly give the monitor a slap upside the CRT. Most times this would jiggle things enough that they contacted again, and normal colours would return. Sometimes it required a few smacks, but the look on the kids' faces (not to mention the teachers) was definately worth the sore hand afterwards :-)

  267. just get someone else to do it by neminem · · Score: 1

    My favorite: I once had a laptop with modular drives, and somewhat spontaneously, my zipdrive module (remember those?) stopped working. No response at all - the laptop just didn't think anything was in the drive bay. I asked my stepdad to come over and check it out.

    He pops it in. It works fine. He leaves.

    I go to back up my stuff the next day. It's gone again.

  268. odd problem by bjs555 · · Score: 0

    Here's an odd problem I ran into:

    MS Access installed on a machine one day refused to run and gave the error message "no valide license". The fix was to rename a font called Hatten.ttf in the ...\windows\fonts directory to something else, reinstall Access, and then put back the original font name. I have no idea why Access hates Hatten.ttf.

  269. Computer Voodoo by SablKnight · · Score: 1

    Almost literally. Over the years of assembling computer systems, particularly early on, systems that would work well were ones that I had in some way injured myself in building, usually a skinned knuckle from working in a sharp sheet-metal case. Systems that were assembled with no bodily harm would almost always need a hardware fix fairly soon afterwards. I started calling this my "blood sacrifice." It got to the point that one time, when the hardware assembly had gone smoother than ever before and I was completely unscathed, I actually pricked my finger and touched a drop of blood to the inside of the case.

    I've since realized how stupid the whole thing was, but even so, if I skin a knuckle or cut a finger on a case I make a joke about blood sacrifice and breathe a little easier.

  270. CMOS battery by �berhund · · Score: 1

    I once had the CMOS battery go out on my 386. This machine wouldn't autodect the hard drive, so it had to be set manually. Before I got around to hunting down a new battery, I could set the hard drive type in the BIOS with my eyes closed.

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    -Uberhund
  271. upside down, Re:hard drive by mennucc1 · · Score: 1

    Some time ago a HD of mine stopped working; I bought a new one, and cried for the lost data; some time later, I tried again, and it worked, so I rushed to recover my data. Then I realized that, second time around, I had mounted it in the chassis upside down; I did a few tests, and indeed the drive would start only when mounted upside down. It has worked flawlessly ever since.

  272. Gonna Date Myself Here by queenb**ch · · Score: 2, Funny

    This is really going to date me but here goes....

    Once upon a time, CD burners were a very new thing. We had just gotten one in at work. We didn't burn much because the disks were expensive. This new guy started in our shipping department and he asked if we would copy a game for him if he bought the disk. We told him that would be fine. He brings in his software and his blank disk. We carefully put everything in the machine and set the disk to burn.

    When it's done, I very calmly pull some oven mitts out of my desk drawer and pull them on as I wander over to the machine. I pick up the newly burned disk and juggle it for a bit (like a hot potato) as I walk over to his desk. He looks up and sees me, taking in the oven mitts "What're those for?" "Oh...because the disk is hot. Why do you think it's called burning a CD?" I toss him the CD and tell him not to burn himself.

    He sits there juggling his new disk for about 30 seconds before he realizes that it's not really hot. In retaliation, he chases me around the warehouse with Nerf gun.

    The only real requirements are the ability to keep a straight face and to come up with something that is remotely plausible.

    2 cents,

    QueenB

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    HDGary secures my bank :/