No, THAT is exactly what the AC was saying. I have no idea why you think anything I said in any way was "exactly what the Ac was saying", can you read?
Why is it acceptable for companies to spout bullshit like "We can't find good employees," but the second a worker brings up needing to be paid a living wage, they're scorned as some entitled prick?
What does any of that have to do with the AC lie about someone claiming you should work for free?
IT'S NOT MY FAULT!1111 IT'S NEVER MY FAULT and when I turn into a rape-murderer, it still won't be my fault because you stupid kkkorprashuns didn't give me the exact job I think i deserve at the exact pay I want!!!!
Nope. The left labeled them that way, which isn't nearly them same. The best you get is that some of the "Tea Party" had libertarian leanings, but so do members of every party.
You DO realize there is AN ACTUAL LIBERTARIAN PARTY don't you? Why are you asking about the Tea Party instead of the Libertarian Party?
And why do you bother posting if you're just going to make up the most egregious lie you can and ascribe it to anyone you disagree with?
You're never going to change anyone's mind by lying like that. And you're clearly not even open minded enough to actually read and respond to what WAS ACTUALLY SAID, so is your only purpose here to make bombastic, trolling assertions?
I love that Libertarians have made such impressive political inroads that, in your obvious and abject fear of them, you resort to your reflexive "MY TEAM IS BETTER THAN THEIR TEAM" screed, and don't even realize that in combining "conservatives" and "libertarians" you're admitting you don't realize they're completely opposing idealogies.
Next time, save space and say "I have no fucking idea what Libertarianism is, and because I'm a partisan hack, it SKEEEERS ME! MY TEAM".
I'm sorry, I just continue to read this reply and all I get from it is that you made a sexist argument and can't approach backing it up.
Nothing you said there in any way resembles the truth about his post, but more importantly, none of it, by any measure, supports your grossly sexist claim of ""virtual flaccid urine dripping dick swinging attitude".
I wish people would post where they actually live when they make claims like this.
No, you know what, I'll be more blunt.
I wish when people wanted to have a reasonable conversation, and were requesting information, that they don't act like petulant brats, and instead, simply politely
ask for it. It never occurred to me that some lonely internet troll is so desperate for my approximate location that he would throw a tantrum about not immediately and automatically receiving it, like you did in your post.
Wait you really just seriously blamed "the libertarians" for convincing people that "the only jobs that matter are white collar jobs"?
The same libertarians that haven't really mattered politically or culturally until the last year or so?
And you think they talk DOWN blue collar jobs?
Do you even know what a libertarian is? Because your post seems to prove you don't. What is up with this sudden rush to blame everything you don't like in the world on a group of irrelevant politicos? By making claims that are demonstrably false?
"Because those are for the most part low-status, low-paying servant style jobs. "
So? Is your argument that CS jobs are better than Teaching Jobs or Child Care Jobs because YOU THINK they are "low-status, low-paying servant style jobs"?
Because that's pretty condescending, and frankly, wrong.
I GUARANTEE YOU, if you ran a poll, teachers would have higher status than programmers.
I'm sorry I'm being mean, but goddamn it, you guys. I'm sick of hearing this same tired bullshit, as though it occurred to no one to actually look the fuck around and see that this defensive attitude toward ignoring the fucking problem and hoping it goes away is making shit worse
You're not being mean, you're being gullible.
First, The lack of focus on diversity
doesn't exist, and should have been your first clue you were swallowing a load. Just look at the extensive and well documented attempts to introduce "diversity". The idea that there is ANY lack of focus on diversity is quite frankly, ridiculous.
Second you cite "negative experiences" as though it were lynching and sexual harassment, and not "long hours, tedious work, and a lack of social opportunities".
"There is currently a responsibility-dodging contest between industry and academia over who is to blame for the declining enrollment of women in Computer Science
Women are. Or are we still forwarding the lie that women don't make their own choices, and need to be coddled/cajoled/hand-held into taking jobs in industries they don't care about?
Minimum wage in this country is a joke, and while raising it to be a living wage would, indeed, cause some short-term loss of jobs, over the longer term, as the poorest working people were measurably better off and able to spend more money, it would contribute greatly to the country's economy.
So, did you not bother reading the article that proves you wrong?
Inflation kills when you raise minimum wage.
It's been proven so many times that I can't believe this nonsensical trope still has legs. It's like you completely ignored the story and the downside of inflation.
You are not intended to live on minimum wage. Anybody who shows up on time and sober will be making above minimum in three months.
This is wrong. My wife is the GM of a retail store, and her company only hires store associates at minimum wage. Why?
Because the line of teeny boppers looking to work in a trendy store is LOOOOOONG and the job requirements are low.
They only give raises at one year intervals.
In addition, I happen to live in an area of the country where RN's make around 17-20 an hour, and skilled tradesmen are the same. In short, the wages are LOW. Minimum wage, while not in any way comfortable, is liveable.
Every single thing you claimed in your post is wrong in regards to my area and direct personal experience.
I do think that being a big sports fan to the point that you memorize shit about it is a big fat fucking waste of time. But hey, is it any more of a big fat fucking waste of time than ranting on slashdot?
According to its latest report on Smartphone OS shares, of those smartphone purchases, 48 percent of buyers went with Android, 43 percent landed iOS a close second
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...the alternative is a fucking nightmare.
WHICH alternative?
You realize there's more than one?
And your excuse is why the country is in this mess, voting for a known bad actor instead of a third party.
DERP I KNOW OBAMA MURDERDRONED MY MOM, BUT ROMNEY!!!
So don't vote for Romney. Vote third party. Or stop pretending you want to make things better.
"We should all just work for free"
No, THAT is exactly what the AC was saying. I have no idea why you think anything I said in any way was "exactly what the Ac was saying", can you read?
Why is it acceptable for companies to spout bullshit like "We can't find good employees," but the second a worker brings up needing to be paid a living wage, they're scorned as some entitled prick?
What does any of that have to do with the AC lie about someone claiming you should work for free?
ON TOPIC PLEASE.
mainly because companies are making it difficult.
IT'S NOT MY FAULT!1111 IT'S NEVER MY FAULT and when I turn into a rape-murderer, it still won't be my fault because you stupid kkkorprashuns didn't give me the exact job I think i deserve at the exact pay I want!!!!
And you wonder why you can't get hired.
Not in the least. But many of them will, if their situation gets bad enough.
Are you the Coward I was responding to? I was asking it, not it's apologist.
Good for you. But clearly you've not paid attention to anything that's been said, either in the news or in this discussion.
You're right, I paid attention to reality where I got a job, and didn't sit around making excuses for why I couldn't or wouldn't on a web board.
That's difficult, mainly because companies are making it difficult.
OH MY GOD!!! GETTING A JOB IS SOOOOOO DIFFICULT!!!
I'VE TURNED INTO A RAPE-KILLER BECAUSE COMPANIES MAKE GETTING THE EXACT JOB I LIKE SOOOOOOO HARD
Nothing in the discussion, which I've paid very close attention to, in any way supports your points.
Are they?
Yup. That you're asking says much.
The Tea Party was supposedly "libertarian"
Nope. The left labeled them that way, which isn't nearly them same. The best you get is that some of the "Tea Party" had libertarian leanings, but so do members of every party.
You DO realize there is AN ACTUAL LIBERTARIAN PARTY don't you? Why are you asking about the Tea Party instead of the Libertarian Party?
"The social safety net that right wingers both disdain and take for granted has helped keep people who've hit hard times from turning to crime"
So you think everyone who is out of work and not on benefits will steal or kill.
I got another job.
Which says a lot about both of us.
"We should all just work for free"
Who said that?
And why do you bother posting if you're just going to make up the most egregious lie you can and ascribe it to anyone you disagree with?
You're never going to change anyone's mind by lying like that. And you're clearly not even open minded enough to actually read and respond to what WAS ACTUALLY SAID, so is your only purpose here to make bombastic, trolling assertions?
"To conservolibertarians,"
I love that Libertarians have made such impressive political inroads that, in your obvious and abject fear of them, you resort to your reflexive "MY TEAM IS BETTER THAN THEIR TEAM" screed, and don't even realize that in combining "conservatives" and "libertarians" you're admitting you don't realize they're completely opposing idealogies.
Next time, save space and say "I have no fucking idea what Libertarianism is, and because I'm a partisan hack, it SKEEEERS ME! MY TEAM".
I'm sorry, I just continue to read this reply and all I get from it is that you made a sexist argument and can't approach backing it up.
Nothing you said there in any way resembles the truth about his post, but more importantly, none of it, by any measure, supports your grossly sexist claim of ""virtual flaccid urine dripping dick swinging attitude".
The whole "I don't see the problem, so it doesn't exists".
Cold you post the quote where he says that? I missed it.
In this case "free choice" is used to wave away the actual problems one encounters when working in the field of choice, chosen so freely.
So, he's using the fact that people have free choice to... show that people don't have free choice?
What?
You're incoherent.
I wish people would post where they actually live when they make claims like this.
No, you know what, I'll be more blunt.
I wish when people wanted to have a reasonable conversation, and were requesting information, that they don't act like petulant brats, and instead, simply politely
ask for it. It never occurred to me that some lonely internet troll is so desperate for my approximate location that he would throw a tantrum about not immediately and automatically receiving it, like you did in your post.
I wish people would post where they actually live when they make claims like this.
1) why?
2) you could just ask nicely, why didn't you
the libertarians
Wait you really just seriously blamed "the libertarians" for convincing people that "the only jobs that matter are white collar jobs"?
The same libertarians that haven't really mattered politically or culturally until the last year or so?
And you think they talk DOWN blue collar jobs?
Do you even know what a libertarian is? Because your post seems to prove you don't. What is up with this sudden rush to blame everything you don't like in the world on a group of irrelevant politicos? By making claims that are demonstrably false?
It's exactly this virtual flaccid urine dripping dick swinging attitude that keeps women away.
Um, what "virtual flaccid urine dripping dick swinging attitude"? His point was
Last time I checked, people have a free choice as to what field they want to work/study in.
I fail to see how one could read that as a "virtual flaccid urine dripping dick swinging attitude".
"Because those are for the most part low-status, low-paying servant style jobs. "
So? Is your argument that CS jobs are better than Teaching Jobs or Child Care Jobs because YOU THINK they are "low-status, low-paying servant style jobs"?
Because that's pretty condescending, and frankly, wrong.
I GUARANTEE YOU, if you ran a poll, teachers would have higher status than programmers.
I'm sorry I'm being mean, but goddamn it, you guys. I'm sick of hearing this same tired bullshit, as though it occurred to no one to actually look the fuck around and see that this defensive attitude toward ignoring the fucking problem and hoping it goes away is making shit worse
You're not being mean, you're being gullible.
First, The lack of focus on diversity
doesn't exist, and should have been your first clue you were swallowing a load. Just look at the extensive and well documented attempts to introduce "diversity". The idea that there is ANY lack of focus on diversity is quite frankly, ridiculous.
Second you cite "negative experiences" as though it were lynching and sexual harassment, and not "long hours, tedious work, and a lack of social opportunities".
In short, you bought a line.
"There is currently a responsibility-dodging contest between industry and academia over who is to blame for the declining enrollment of women in Computer Science
Women are. Or are we still forwarding the lie that women don't make their own choices, and need to be coddled/cajoled/hand-held into taking jobs in industries they don't care about?
Minimum wage in this country is a joke, and while raising it to be a living wage would, indeed, cause some short-term loss of jobs, over the longer term, as the poorest working people were measurably better off and able to spend more money, it would contribute greatly to the country's economy.
So, did you not bother reading the article that proves you wrong?
Inflation kills when you raise minimum wage.
It's been proven so many times that I can't believe this nonsensical trope still has legs. It's like you completely ignored the story and the downside of inflation.
You are not intended to live on minimum wage. Anybody who shows up on time and sober will be making above minimum in three months.
This is wrong. My wife is the GM of a retail store, and her company only hires store associates at minimum wage. Why?
Because the line of teeny boppers looking to work in a trendy store is LOOOOOONG and the job requirements are low.
They only give raises at one year intervals.
In addition, I happen to live in an area of the country where RN's make around 17-20 an hour, and skilled tradesmen are the same. In short, the wages are LOW. Minimum wage, while not in any way comfortable, is liveable.
Every single thing you claimed in your post is wrong in regards to my area and direct personal experience.
Research isn't paid for out of tuition.
So your claim is that there is no research anywhere that is funded in any way by tuition?
Care to support that claim with citations?
Don't bother, you're wrong.
"and Shrub"
isn't the President and doesn't matter, no matter how many times you and the current administration try to pretend otherwise.
Yeah, it would be forking awesome! Samsung would be the biggest forking company in the world!
Steve Jobs would be rolling in his forking grave!! IT WOULD BE FORKING INCREDIBLE!!!
That was an anonymous coward, not me
Sure guy.
I do think that being a big sports fan to the point that you memorize shit about it is a big fat fucking waste of time. But hey, is it any more of a big fat fucking waste of time than ranting on slashdot?
Unfortunately for you, you're guilty of both.
Android is winning.
Yes, it is.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/29/nielsen-smartphones-account-for-nearly-50-percent-of-us-mobile/
According to its latest report on Smartphone OS shares, of those smartphone purchases, 48 percent of buyers went with Android, 43 percent landed iOS a close second
If my Android phone wasn't working
Except is is working, so your observation is really irrelevant.
A few features are buggy, one would have to be openly lying to claim the "phone doesn't work".