Unless you open up whatever you want to save. You can need to get inside the actual items, whether it be that direct TV box, or the amp, or whatever. There are many different ways to clean the electronics. The issue arises with the mold. Nothing will remove it completely without a little scrubbing (a nylon brush will work great for this). And secondly, the only way to verify that the mold is gone is to give it a visual. It WILL grow back if you do not remove it all. It WILL make your items inoperable, if it hasn't already.
The mold isn't even your biggest concern. It's the corrosion that occurs. It will eat through the PCB and any electrical traces along the way. Components? It loves eating those. The faster you act, the better chances of recovery and minimal damage, if any.
I work at the component level with electronics for a living. I've seen all sorts of... messes people have made with their stuff. If you do not get to the mess that was made as soon as possible, the more likely that it is lost.
The reason you don't get it is because you don't fully understand. "The right to bear arms" doesn't mean you have the right to hold a gun. It means you have the rights to wield arms of a bear. Unfortunately, they're a little cumbersome, so no one really uses them.
What I want to know why this format feels worse? I honestly never tried uploading a picture before, but I'm doing it now. I honestly have no fucking idea what the dimensions should be. I started out with something huge, and it asked me to crop it down (leaving about a third of the width missing if I leave everything height in wise), which is no good. So I went to a smaller dimension, which was about 400x 360, same fucking things. So I tried smaller, 196x172, same thing! It didn't matter what dimension it was, I still had to crop it down and when I tried with the tool they gave, the cropping always ended up the same.
It might be a beta, but crying out loud, pretend I am average idiot joe user. Tell me specifically what dimensions that you support, how the pictures work.
Now, I honestly don't care that much. I just wanted to see what all the hub-bub was about. I can see why users are flabbergasted, to say the least. It's a new system, it's confusing, and it wasn't exactly easy to find your own profile from Yahoo's page. This just stinks of failure.
Well not in the least bit idiotic actually.
It's up to me as a user to choose where a url opens, especially since we are all using the tabbed paradigm now.
I hate this mantra. If you want it to open in a new window, right click it. If you want it to open in a new tab, right click it. If you choose to left click it, guess what? You don't get any choice regardless.
Besides, it is my website, not yours. I should have every right to dictate how you view it, and what you do with it.
HL2 mods (well now just Source mods), are generally great. Console gamers are missing out on golden opportunities to enjoy some great mods (I'm not gonna fanboy for the ones I enjoy here). The nice thing about the modding scene these days is that a lot of them are taking the time to polish what the work that they do.
Honestly, I think this whole fight of PC vs Console is stupid. Both sides miss out on something great for various reasons. I think it would be great if console ports to PC didn't usually terriblly suck. And I think it would be great if consolers could play mods more frequently.
You're right, so far, that every game on the Wii works, and the Wii doesn't have a significant failure rate to bother most people. I'm not going to argue that.
However, I'm sure just about everyone remotely interested gaming has at least heard about the 360 and it's massive failure rate, and probably how some games actually needed to be patched to work with certain versions of the 360. So really, my point was that I was just providing a counter point to what you broadly stated.
Specifically, yeah, the Wii works nice. (I'm a Wii owner too.)
You are stupid. Jesus fucking christ. Look, you claimed that you've used DRM on your games in the past, and because of that, the figures stated in TFA had to be correct because you've got some retarded vendetta against AKAImBatman, and you're hell bent on proving them wrong every chance you get. But your claim is entirely disingenuous. There are many different forms of DRM. Blizzard uses DRM with their games too. Guess what? They've probably never had major issues either.
And guess what? AKAImBatman's rants haven't been about the DRM that doesn't break shit, like the type you've used, like the type that Blizzard uses, etc... It's about the type of DRM that EA uses. Just because you and your friend haven't had issues doesn't mean other people aren't having issues.
It's apparent you don't fully understand the issue. I suggest you take some more time to do so.
-- Technological problems. There's nothing more irritating than purchasing a game or getting a game as a gift, then not being able to run it. At least two of those instances were clearly DRM problems. The games would not even start. No error, no reason, just fail. Tech support then explains some BS about having a CD Burner. Because, you know, those are so uncommon in computers. (This guy explains it WAY better than I can. [youtube.com]) Not to mention the video card driver treadmill. Having problems with that game? Oh, well you need to update to Super Destructo Detonation Drivers version 34120123.1239213213 release 8231 patch -0123 revision B. It will make your system super-unstable, but your games will kick ass!
Consoles are starting to have technological problems now too. So you can't truthfully say that you pop in a game and it works 100% of the time. Even if we ignore the infamous RROD, there are games that needed to be patched once or twice before they worked across the board as advertised.
Most, if not all video cards coming out these days have DVI ports. Most new TV's coming out have an HDMI port. So in that instance, all you need is an HDMI to DVI cable.
While hitting two balls is effective, for whatever reason, hitting one ball hurts way more than having both hit. So I'd recommend a one nut tap for maximum effect.
Actually, you can play the Orange Box on both the 360 and PS3, but I can imagine the experience with those games is hampered since console makers don't allow for keyboard and mouse support on their systems for games.
It's kind of funny. He claims the backlash against the DRM didn't really affect them, but didn't it? Didn't they slightly loosen their restrictions? They wouldn't have done that just because.
Thanks for playing, but I hope you realize certain forms of DRM are considerably more harmful than others. But since it appears you haven't realized that, you have lost the grand prize.
That all depends on which game. If it's a game using PunkBuster, which never fucking works, yeah, you'll find a plethora of cheaters. If it's something made by Valve or Blizzard, no, you won't find cheating. And besides, people still find ways to cheat on the console by abusing exploits in the system. Sorry, but uh, cheaters or anywhere you go.
Ok, so you bought the game, don't want to accept the agreement. What do you do next? Stores love trampling on the rights of consumers here. "Oh, sorry, we don't take returns on opened computer games or software." Which equates into "Because there are some people out there who like copy the discs and return them for a refund, we believe everyone does this". So what are you left with? It depends. If the store gives you credit, you at the very least have that (although the store keeps their money regardless. However, if you can't even get that, you're stuck with a $50 coaster.
So really, its not particularly as simple as "if you don't like, don't accept the agreement". So my question remains, after not accepting the agreement, what do you do next?
No one wants to honor your warranties, no one wants to price what they sell you accordingly.
I don't seem to have a problem with companies honoring warranties. The only issue I ever had with warranties was something that was not covered.
Which is not what you specifically stated. You said that you had problems with manufacturers not covering an item that you thought was under warranty. (I took a wild guess and assumed you had read the length of warranty and didn't try to screw over the manufacturer by sending it in out of warranty.)
So what is it? Either they're not honoring their warranties, or are you trying to send them under warranty when the term has expired, or you voided it?
"We price things differently in different markets based on what will move the product" is bullshit
Google says, No results found for "We price things differently in different markets based on what will move the product".
I have no idea what you're talking about.
So wait, companies don't price things differently for other markets? Then why are copies of Valves games so fucking cheap in countries like Taiwan, or wherever, where people can't afford a $50 game, but can maybe afford a $5 or $10 game? Why was there controversy over people from not those regions not having the ability to play those games, or worse, when they typed in the product key properly?
The fact is, companies do do that. Australians complain all the time about the price of some items costing far more than they should in their country. You guys in the UK do it from time to time too. Though it probably wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't for VAT being added to everything (just from a cursory glance at a random UK PC parts store).
they have no other choice but to pay said price.
Uhuh...
Let's see... you could... steal the stuff you want. (Good luck not getting caught at some point.) You could not buy the stuff you want. (Have fun not owning anything but wanting more than nothing.) Or you could pay the prices, feel slightly ripped off, yet have the item you want. (You piss and moan about prices, but swallow it.)
It's no wonder that every time I play any game online with you lot, you're all cranky and whiny
Because people you meet in online games are a accurate representation of what they are in real life. Next you're going to claim that a sample of online gamers from the United Kingdom are a good sample of all kinds of British people.
Bubble bursting time; the anecdotal counter point of yours only proves my point. You can't honestly say you've never ran into a good many of people who didn't talk some sort of shit when they didn't feel comfortable in their nvironment. Online anything isn't any different.
Take those 13 year snot bags you hear over their mic of any platform, all they do is talk shit. They do it because they can get away with it. If they couldn't, they wouldn't. When they're not doing it to some random stranger, they're doing it elsewhere. And that coarse language carries on into their daily routine when they're out in public too.
So really, in the end, you can infer a good many things from a sufficient sample size. No one ever said it applied to everyone. But seriously, you guys in the UK do whine a lot when you're online. If you don't like the fact that I'm saying this, then do something to stop the people around you from sounding like a whiny cunt every time something happens.
Learn to troll properly, this is Sparta^H^H^H^H^Hlashdot, not Youtube.
Please, if I wanted to troll you, I'd have done it by now. It's always the typical douche-bag that mentions trolling when someone says something they don't agree with, even if it was a somewhat spirited debate. Get over yourself.
You guys in the UK get fucked big time. No one wants to honor your warranties, no one wants to price what they sell you accordingly. ("We price things differently in different markets based on what will move the product" is bullshit if you're gouging your customers and they have no other choice but to pay said price.) It's no wonder that every time I play any game online with you lot, you're all cranky and whiny. You guys need a reach around, at the very least. (Haha, the "image word" that I'm seeing is "mounted"! How fitting.)
So manufacturer's don't honor the warranty in the UK? Because otherwise, you are covered. Even if one component fries the rest, you have that warranty. Hell, I've seen Asus honor warranties even when they've expired. And those four year warranties that Dell or HP offers are bogus. Chances are that it if lasts one year, it will easily last four. It's just easy money.
I've dealt with Dell before, unless they've changed their policy, you either get 30 days or three months (I can't honestly remember), and after that you have to sign up for a plan. Most component related failures happen very soon, or near the end of the products "natural" life cycle. In either case, you have nothing to worry about.
And the price difference here in the states would probably be far greater. While you may only be saving roughly the equivalent of $30?, I'd probably be saving a good few hundred or more, which includes standard shipping costs. It still stands to reason that even if you're only saving $30 after everything is said and done, you'd still be stupid for not building your own. What are you going to do once the coverage runs out? Refuse to upgrade because you were a dumb shit who didn't want to take the time to learn how?
Because, you know, the average person buys a gaming computer, instead of a normal desktop PC (Ok, so I wasn't exactly clear on that, but why would you think I really meant something that no one buys?). And those that do buy the gaming PC's are stupid anyway. I've heard, the reasons as to why an "experienced" person would buy a gaming machine, but in the end, it's still idiocy. (Hey, if you can waste time arguing on the internet, you can spend the time to spec the parts and build it yourself for a fraction of the price.)
Oh, another thing that annoyed me about OO was the that whatever "dictionary" they used for their spell checker was seriously outdated. When it doesn't recognize a word like "contactor" (neither does Firefox, go fucking figure), it just becomes increasingly annoying when you do go to use the grammar checker for any inconsistencies in your documentation, as now you have to keep in mind that OO has inconsistencies!
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Unless you open up whatever you want to save. You can need to get inside the actual items, whether it be that direct TV box, or the amp, or whatever. There are many different ways to clean the electronics. The issue arises with the mold. Nothing will remove it completely without a little scrubbing (a nylon brush will work great for this). And secondly, the only way to verify that the mold is gone is to give it a visual. It WILL grow back if you do not remove it all. It WILL make your items inoperable, if it hasn't already.
The mold isn't even your biggest concern. It's the corrosion that occurs. It will eat through the PCB and any electrical traces along the way. Components? It loves eating those. The faster you act, the better chances of recovery and minimal damage, if any.
I work at the component level with electronics for a living. I've seen all sorts of... messes people have made with their stuff. If you do not get to the mess that was made as soon as possible, the more likely that it is lost.
Actually, we both were wrong. Bearing arms only applies to Bearlocks.
Yes, but to what extent? Is it the entire notion? Or just some numbers of his data? And how far off are those numbers if that's the case?
The reason you don't get it is because you don't fully understand. "The right to bear arms" doesn't mean you have the right to hold a gun. It means you have the rights to wield arms of a bear. Unfortunately, they're a little cumbersome, so no one really uses them.
What I want to know why this format feels worse? I honestly never tried uploading a picture before, but I'm doing it now. I honestly have no fucking idea what the dimensions should be. I started out with something huge, and it asked me to crop it down (leaving about a third of the width missing if I leave everything height in wise), which is no good. So I went to a smaller dimension, which was about 400x 360, same fucking things. So I tried smaller, 196x172, same thing! It didn't matter what dimension it was, I still had to crop it down and when I tried with the tool they gave, the cropping always ended up the same.
It might be a beta, but crying out loud, pretend I am average idiot joe user. Tell me specifically what dimensions that you support, how the pictures work.
Now, I honestly don't care that much. I just wanted to see what all the hub-bub was about. I can see why users are flabbergasted, to say the least. It's a new system, it's confusing, and it wasn't exactly easy to find your own profile from Yahoo's page. This just stinks of failure.
Well not in the least bit idiotic actually. It's up to me as a user to choose where a url opens, especially since we are all using the tabbed paradigm now.
I hate this mantra. If you want it to open in a new window, right click it. If you want it to open in a new tab, right click it. If you choose to left click it, guess what? You don't get any choice regardless.
Besides, it is my website, not yours. I should have every right to dictate how you view it, and what you do with it.
HL2 mods (well now just Source mods), are generally great. Console gamers are missing out on golden opportunities to enjoy some great mods (I'm not gonna fanboy for the ones I enjoy here). The nice thing about the modding scene these days is that a lot of them are taking the time to polish what the work that they do.
Honestly, I think this whole fight of PC vs Console is stupid. Both sides miss out on something great for various reasons. I think it would be great if console ports to PC didn't usually terriblly suck. And I think it would be great if consolers could play mods more frequently.
You're right, so far, that every game on the Wii works, and the Wii doesn't have a significant failure rate to bother most people. I'm not going to argue that.
However, I'm sure just about everyone remotely interested gaming has at least heard about the 360 and it's massive failure rate, and probably how some games actually needed to be patched to work with certain versions of the 360. So really, my point was that I was just providing a counter point to what you broadly stated.
Specifically, yeah, the Wii works nice. (I'm a Wii owner too.)
You are stupid. Jesus fucking christ. Look, you claimed that you've used DRM on your games in the past, and because of that, the figures stated in TFA had to be correct because you've got some retarded vendetta against AKAImBatman, and you're hell bent on proving them wrong every chance you get. But your claim is entirely disingenuous. There are many different forms of DRM. Blizzard uses DRM with their games too. Guess what? They've probably never had major issues either.
And guess what? AKAImBatman's rants haven't been about the DRM that doesn't break shit, like the type you've used, like the type that Blizzard uses, etc... It's about the type of DRM that EA uses. Just because you and your friend haven't had issues doesn't mean other people aren't having issues.
It's apparent you don't fully understand the issue. I suggest you take some more time to do so.
-- Technological problems. There's nothing more irritating than purchasing a game or getting a game as a gift, then not being able to run it. At least two of those instances were clearly DRM problems. The games would not even start. No error, no reason, just fail. Tech support then explains some BS about having a CD Burner. Because, you know, those are so uncommon in computers. (This guy explains it WAY better than I can. [youtube.com]) Not to mention the video card driver treadmill. Having problems with that game? Oh, well you need to update to Super Destructo Detonation Drivers version 34120123.1239213213 release 8231 patch -0123 revision B. It will make your system super-unstable, but your games will kick ass!
Consoles are starting to have technological problems now too. So you can't truthfully say that you pop in a game and it works 100% of the time. Even if we ignore the infamous RROD, there are games that needed to be patched once or twice before they worked across the board as advertised.
That you really don't know what you're talking about. The DRM you've used is probably significantly different from what we see with Spore.
Most, if not all video cards coming out these days have DVI ports. Most new TV's coming out have an HDMI port. So in that instance, all you need is an HDMI to DVI cable.
While hitting two balls is effective, for whatever reason, hitting one ball hurts way more than having both hit. So I'd recommend a one nut tap for maximum effect.
I haven't seen that problem in a really long time, so while it still might be possible, it's probably less likely than the DRM issue.
Actually, you can play the Orange Box on both the 360 and PS3, but I can imagine the experience with those games is hampered since console makers don't allow for keyboard and mouse support on their systems for games.
It's kind of funny. He claims the backlash against the DRM didn't really affect them, but didn't it? Didn't they slightly loosen their restrictions? They wouldn't have done that just because.
Thanks for playing, but I hope you realize certain forms of DRM are considerably more harmful than others. But since it appears you haven't realized that, you have lost the grand prize.
About my Valve or Blizzard comment, I spoke a little hastily. You'll still find cheaters in the games they make, but they won't be so rampant.
That all depends on which game. If it's a game using PunkBuster, which never fucking works, yeah, you'll find a plethora of cheaters. If it's something made by Valve or Blizzard, no, you won't find cheating. And besides, people still find ways to cheat on the console by abusing exploits in the system. Sorry, but uh, cheaters or anywhere you go.
Ok, so you bought the game, don't want to accept the agreement. What do you do next? Stores love trampling on the rights of consumers here. "Oh, sorry, we don't take returns on opened computer games or software." Which equates into "Because there are some people out there who like copy the discs and return them for a refund, we believe everyone does this". So what are you left with? It depends. If the store gives you credit, you at the very least have that (although the store keeps their money regardless. However, if you can't even get that, you're stuck with a $50 coaster.
So really, its not particularly as simple as "if you don't like, don't accept the agreement". So my question remains, after not accepting the agreement, what do you do next?
No one wants to honor your warranties, no one wants to price what they sell you accordingly.
I don't seem to have a problem with companies honoring warranties. The only issue I ever had with warranties was something that was not covered.
Which is not what you specifically stated. You said that you had problems with manufacturers not covering an item that you thought was under warranty. (I took a wild guess and assumed you had read the length of warranty and didn't try to screw over the manufacturer by sending it in out of warranty.)
So what is it? Either they're not honoring their warranties, or are you trying to send them under warranty when the term has expired, or you voided it?
"We price things differently in different markets based on what will move the product" is bullshit
Google says, No results found for "We price things differently in different markets based on what will move the product".
I have no idea what you're talking about.
So wait, companies don't price things differently for other markets? Then why are copies of Valves games so fucking cheap in countries like Taiwan, or wherever, where people can't afford a $50 game, but can maybe afford a $5 or $10 game? Why was there controversy over people from not those regions not having the ability to play those games, or worse, when they typed in the product key properly?
The fact is, companies do do that. Australians complain all the time about the price of some items costing far more than they should in their country. You guys in the UK do it from time to time too. Though it probably wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't for VAT being added to everything (just from a cursory glance at a random UK PC parts store).
they have no other choice but to pay said price.
Uhuh...
Let's see... you could... steal the stuff you want. (Good luck not getting caught at some point.) You could not buy the stuff you want. (Have fun not owning anything but wanting more than nothing.) Or you could pay the prices, feel slightly ripped off, yet have the item you want. (You piss and moan about prices, but swallow it.)
It's no wonder that every time I play any game online with you lot, you're all cranky and whiny
Because people you meet in online games are a accurate representation of what they are in real life. Next you're going to claim that a sample of online gamers from the United Kingdom are a good sample of all kinds of British people.
Bubble bursting time; the anecdotal counter point of yours only proves my point. You can't honestly say you've never ran into a good many of people who didn't talk some sort of shit when they didn't feel comfortable in their nvironment. Online anything isn't any different.
Take those 13 year snot bags you hear over their mic of any platform, all they do is talk shit. They do it because they can get away with it. If they couldn't, they wouldn't. When they're not doing it to some random stranger, they're doing it elsewhere. And that coarse language carries on into their daily routine when they're out in public too.
So really, in the end, you can infer a good many things from a sufficient sample size. No one ever said it applied to everyone. But seriously, you guys in the UK do whine a lot when you're online. If you don't like the fact that I'm saying this, then do something to stop the people around you from sounding like a whiny cunt every time something happens.
Learn to troll properly, this is Sparta^H^H^H^H^Hlashdot, not Youtube.
Please, if I wanted to troll you, I'd have done it by now. It's always the typical douche-bag that mentions trolling when someone says something they don't agree with, even if it was a somewhat spirited debate. Get over yourself.
You guys in the UK get fucked big time. No one wants to honor your warranties, no one wants to price what they sell you accordingly. ("We price things differently in different markets based on what will move the product" is bullshit if you're gouging your customers and they have no other choice but to pay said price.) It's no wonder that every time I play any game online with you lot, you're all cranky and whiny. You guys need a reach around, at the very least. (Haha, the "image word" that I'm seeing is "mounted"! How fitting.)
So manufacturer's don't honor the warranty in the UK? Because otherwise, you are covered. Even if one component fries the rest, you have that warranty. Hell, I've seen Asus honor warranties even when they've expired. And those four year warranties that Dell or HP offers are bogus. Chances are that it if lasts one year, it will easily last four. It's just easy money.
I've dealt with Dell before, unless they've changed their policy, you either get 30 days or three months (I can't honestly remember), and after that you have to sign up for a plan. Most component related failures happen very soon, or near the end of the products "natural" life cycle. In either case, you have nothing to worry about.
And the price difference here in the states would probably be far greater. While you may only be saving roughly the equivalent of $30?, I'd probably be saving a good few hundred or more, which includes standard shipping costs. It still stands to reason that even if you're only saving $30 after everything is said and done, you'd still be stupid for not building your own. What are you going to do once the coverage runs out? Refuse to upgrade because you were a dumb shit who didn't want to take the time to learn how?
Because, you know, the average person buys a gaming computer, instead of a normal desktop PC (Ok, so I wasn't exactly clear on that, but why would you think I really meant something that no one buys?). And those that do buy the gaming PC's are stupid anyway. I've heard, the reasons as to why an "experienced" person would buy a gaming machine, but in the end, it's still idiocy. (Hey, if you can waste time arguing on the internet, you can spend the time to spec the parts and build it yourself for a fraction of the price.)
Oh, another thing that annoyed me about OO was the that whatever "dictionary" they used for their spell checker was seriously outdated. When it doesn't recognize a word like "contactor" (neither does Firefox, go fucking figure), it just becomes increasingly annoying when you do go to use the grammar checker for any inconsistencies in your documentation, as now you have to keep in mind that OO has inconsistencies!