The thing is that the leaders can often be powerful and rich, but you can't whip up people who are well off. They're too busy making money. The poor can be organised because they can be lied to that some group (normally that they are not in regular contact with) are to blame.
Also, wealthy people often have more contacts with more diverse groups, and so know what they are really like.
Spellings change. I once read Chaucer in old English and many of the words have changed. No doubt, there were olde people sometime after that time complaining about young vandals dropping the e from olde.
People get nostalgic. Recognising it is important.
The key thing is that someone understands what is being written.
How often do I see "lose" spelt as "loose"? Is it a bit irritating? Yes. Does it mean that I can't understand it? No.
Likewise, apostrophes. I can't think of a sentence that I've read where the misplaced apostrophe actually changed the meaning of the sentence. There's a shop near me with a sign that says "Top Bag's". I know that it's meant to be "Top Bags", and not telling me that the shop is owned by someone called "Top Bag".
People were complaining in the early 1970s when Slade produced records called "Cum on Feel the Noize" because of bad spelling. I imagine that people have probably been complaining about stuff from the time of Dickens.
Someone tell me if these students have also targetted the BBC, Microsoft and Yahoo.
Because it sounds to me that in the same way that people always mention McDonalds when mentioning junk food (and KFC and Burger King get nothing) that Google have become the evil censoring organisation.
Even that doesn't really affect the figures too much. I look after some home machines and some small businesses, and the poster is right - email, browser, IM and some basic office stuff.
Even in big companies, what are you running in your helpdesk? A custom administration application, office apps and some 3rd party stuff. Nothing that's testing the processor.
When I first ran Office 6, I ran in "draft mode" where I would not get a WYSIWYG view of my text, because I'd be waiting for Word. People were upgrading to get better speed. The human part of the operation is the slow part now.
If you are referring to slavery and what was done to Native Americans, that's about as far away from something that belongs in a Free Market democracy (as is trying to prevent people from having a vote).
Are you saying that blacks are discriminated against by government?
Which probably means people who've bought a PC because they heard it would be good for their kids, but have no idea how to use it, and still have their homepage set to MSN.
As an aside, this is why I'd always make sure that a website worked with Safari and Firefox. Whilst they are small percentages, they are predominantly people who are younger, wealthier or more tech aware, which generally means more disposable income..
But I see no reason to give references for facts that should be known to anyone wanting to engage in any kind of meaningful discussion about National Socialism.
Go on then. Enlighten me, if you've actually got anything. An URL, a book name. Something that proves that the policy of taking over department stores was directly related to them being Jewish.
I could write what you said as "I can pull rabbits out of my ass. I see no reason to prove I can pull rabbits out of my ass, because how it is done should be known to anyone wanting to engage in any kind of meaningful discussion about pulling rabbits out of my ass".
I'm seeing some real slow upgrades on Office now. Running a corporate rollout at massive cost of software + people for a few tweaks just isn't selling. Most places I know are running Office 2K still.
We all got past region coding here in the UK. I've got a player that plays anything.
Of course, after we took out the coding, they came up with RCE. So, we found a way to bypass that sucker too.
The movie industry guys who brought this in temporarily pissed people off. Then, word spread about it. Lots of non-geeks buy DVDs from the USA because specialists retailers set up shop, either providing discs cheaper, or earlier.
The people elect the politicians. A company can spend all they want on electing politicians. They'll not buy the legislation if people don't vote for them.
Sadly, most people don't care about what the government does in their name.
Here's an idea that someone suggested. For every RIAA album you buy, give the same to the EFF. Or alternatively, you could work out what you think that the record company is getting, and give the same (so take off taxes, approximate store margin and shipping costs).
Seriously, RIAA, sue someone with an iPod full of tunes taken from a CD. Please.
This would be the court case from hell for the RIAA. Right now, extensions to copyright and such like are slashdot discussions. Want to make rootkits the 2nd news item of the day on CNN? You're going about it the right way.
Such a case would be a PR disaster. You'd start to see government taking a far more pro-consumer line on CDs, possibly bringing in all sorts of legislation like forcing media replacement or upgrade at a small fee.
They seem to think that they can have another Vinyl to CD upgrade golden time, forgetting that CD offered something more, and that spikes in an industry (like Y2K for COBOL guys) are just that. CD is about the pinnacle for most people. Most users would be better off upgrading their equipment before improving their media.
Concentrate on making better music, and maybe creating a better value proposition. I can pay for a DVD rental service for a month for less than the price of a CD.
Not denying it. But considering the original poster was talking up how great left-wing politics are, I was happy to find some terrible examples. I could also talk about the economic record of left-wing politics, like Soviet Russia, France or Sweden.
On the other hand, I doubt that you can name a country with Right-wing Free Market economics with the human rights record of Russia under Stalin's rule.
Nothing was proved. I listed some policies, and no proof was shown that these were about targetting Jews. The reply simply asserted something like "oh that was because of the department stores that were owned by Jews". No reference to any citation showing any backing for that assertion.
The german economy was largely controlled in terms of what to produce and the prices that could be charged. Which is hardly free-market economics.
As a personal example, the rising cost of electricity is accelerating my decision to get an LCD monitor. It's also that they are getting cheaper, and I'd prefer one, but fuel is going up in price, and the fuel price is a factor in when I jump. And when I do, I'll reduce demand.
I'm just trying to address the point about groupthink which can mean that opinions are formed and unchallenged when there are often more significant issues.
A friend of mine has an SUV, but drives only occassionally on weekends and for holidays. I drive a car and do about 2-300 miles a week. The guys doing the most environmental damage are generally sales reps, who don't even drive SUVs. I've even heard people say "no-one needs an SUV" but then, no-one needs beer and iPods, either.
Personally, I don't think I'd have one because I just don't like them. They always seem like a lot of space is wasted. I'd rather have a good estate car.
Hjalmar Schacht, Hitler's minister of economics was heavily influenced by John Maynard Keynes, a socialist who believed in command economics over laissez-faire, and who advocated government spending as a way out of depression. The public works in Germany, like the Autobahn were directly a result of that - not led by the public, but a job creation scheme.
How about a policy manifesto that states: "That all unearned income, and all income that does not arise from work, be abolished. " or "We demand that all the profits from wholesale trade shall be shared out." or "We demand the creation and maintenance of a healthy middle-class, the immediate communalization of department stores which will be rented cheaply to small businessmen, and that preference shall be given to small businessmen for provision of supplies needed by the State, the provinces and municipalities." or "We demand a land reform in accordance with our national requirements, and the enactment of a law to confiscate from the owners without compensation any land needed for the common purpose. The abolition of ground rents, and the prohibition of all speculation in land.".
Those are socialist policies, not a million miles from the policies of Marx and the Labour Party's old Clause 4:-
"To secure for the workers by hand or by brain the full fruits of their industry and the most equitable distribution thereof that may be possible upon the basis of the common ownership of the means of production, distribution, and exchange, and the best obtainable system of popular administration and control of each industry or service."
Not been on a bike much since they got popular, but I could imagine that in that case, they would hog the road. Point well made - I'll concede that.
But I still believe that there's a certain amount of witch-hunting. There's a strong groupthink element too. Very few people make an issue of people flying off to Switzerland for a weekend of skiing, even though it's probably a more pointless thing to do.
So, are you trying to say that they weren't all leftist countries? China - communist. Soviet Russia - communist. Romania - communist. Cuba - communist. Germany 1933-1944 - socialist.
Socialism is just communism that hasn't succeeded yet. If you want to look at socialism at work, check out the UK, where we are having civil liberties eroded by the day. It's amusing to hear people say "under a Labour government!" as though socialism has a noble history in human rights and civil liberties.
If you are interested, look up what the official name of Hitler's party was.
You might also like to see what Hitler did with regard to nationalising industries.
There's no such thing as totalitarianism. It's never been achieved. There are degrees of government control, and socialism is taking a walk down that path.
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The thing is that the leaders can often be powerful and rich, but you can't whip up people who are well off. They're too busy making money. The poor can be organised because they can be lied to that some group (normally that they are not in regular contact with) are to blame.
Also, wealthy people often have more contacts with more diverse groups, and so know what they are really like.
People get nostalgic. Recognising it is important.
How often do I see "lose" spelt as "loose"? Is it a bit irritating? Yes. Does it mean that I can't understand it? No.
Likewise, apostrophes. I can't think of a sentence that I've read where the misplaced apostrophe actually changed the meaning of the sentence. There's a shop near me with a sign that says "Top Bag's". I know that it's meant to be "Top Bags", and not telling me that the shop is owned by someone called "Top Bag".
People were complaining in the early 1970s when Slade produced records called "Cum on Feel the Noize" because of bad spelling. I imagine that people have probably been complaining about stuff from the time of Dickens.
The key thing is to ensure that employees have access to appropriate data, with the most trusted data being with as few people as possible.
Because it sounds to me that in the same way that people always mention McDonalds when mentioning junk food (and KFC and Burger King get nothing) that Google have become the evil censoring organisation.
Even in big companies, what are you running in your helpdesk? A custom administration application, office apps and some 3rd party stuff. Nothing that's testing the processor.
When I first ran Office 6, I ran in "draft mode" where I would not get a WYSIWYG view of my text, because I'd be waiting for Word. People were upgrading to get better speed. The human part of the operation is the slow part now.
Are you saying that blacks are discriminated against by government?
As an aside, this is why I'd always make sure that a website worked with Safari and Firefox. Whilst they are small percentages, they are predominantly people who are younger, wealthier or more tech aware, which generally means more disposable income..
Go on then. Enlighten me, if you've actually got anything. An URL, a book name. Something that proves that the policy of taking over department stores was directly related to them being Jewish.
I could write what you said as "I can pull rabbits out of my ass. I see no reason to prove I can pull rabbits out of my ass, because how it is done should be known to anyone wanting to engage in any kind of meaningful discussion about pulling rabbits out of my ass".
Try OOo 2.0. The compatibility and speed are a big improvement.
I'm seeing some real slow upgrades on Office now. Running a corporate rollout at massive cost of software + people for a few tweaks just isn't selling. Most places I know are running Office 2K still.
Of course, after we took out the coding, they came up with RCE. So, we found a way to bypass that sucker too.
The movie industry guys who brought this in temporarily pissed people off. Then, word spread about it. Lots of non-geeks buy DVDs from the USA because specialists retailers set up shop, either providing discs cheaper, or earlier.
Can you not get a multiregion player there?
The people elect the politicians. A company can spend all they want on electing politicians. They'll not buy the legislation if people don't vote for them.
Sadly, most people don't care about what the government does in their name.
Here's an idea that someone suggested. For every RIAA album you buy, give the same to the EFF. Or alternatively, you could work out what you think that the record company is getting, and give the same (so take off taxes, approximate store margin and shipping costs).
This would be the court case from hell for the RIAA. Right now, extensions to copyright and such like are slashdot discussions. Want to make rootkits the 2nd news item of the day on CNN? You're going about it the right way.
Such a case would be a PR disaster. You'd start to see government taking a far more pro-consumer line on CDs, possibly bringing in all sorts of legislation like forcing media replacement or upgrade at a small fee.
They seem to think that they can have another Vinyl to CD upgrade golden time, forgetting that CD offered something more, and that spikes in an industry (like Y2K for COBOL guys) are just that. CD is about the pinnacle for most people. Most users would be better off upgrading their equipment before improving their media.
Concentrate on making better music, and maybe creating a better value proposition. I can pay for a DVD rental service for a month for less than the price of a CD.
On the other hand, I doubt that you can name a country with Right-wing Free Market economics with the human rights record of Russia under Stalin's rule.
The german economy was largely controlled in terms of what to produce and the prices that could be charged. Which is hardly free-market economics.
How does Schacht's request for Autobahnen as a way to generate jobs fit into your thinking then?
As a personal example, the rising cost of electricity is accelerating my decision to get an LCD monitor. It's also that they are getting cheaper, and I'd prefer one, but fuel is going up in price, and the fuel price is a factor in when I jump. And when I do, I'll reduce demand.
Yeah, it might mean that I have less packaging to fight through.
I'm just trying to address the point about groupthink which can mean that opinions are formed and unchallenged when there are often more significant issues.
A friend of mine has an SUV, but drives only occassionally on weekends and for holidays. I drive a car and do about 2-300 miles a week. The guys doing the most environmental damage are generally sales reps, who don't even drive SUVs. I've even heard people say "no-one needs an SUV" but then, no-one needs beer and iPods, either.
Personally, I don't think I'd have one because I just don't like them. They always seem like a lot of space is wasted. I'd rather have a good estate car.
How about a policy manifesto that states: "That all unearned income, and all income that does not arise from work, be abolished. " or "We demand that all the profits from wholesale trade shall be shared out." or "We demand the creation and maintenance of a healthy middle-class, the immediate communalization of department stores which will be rented cheaply to small businessmen, and that preference shall be given to small businessmen for provision of supplies needed by the State, the provinces and municipalities." or "We demand a land reform in accordance with our national requirements, and the enactment of a law to confiscate from the owners without compensation any land needed for the common purpose. The abolition of ground rents, and the prohibition of all speculation in land.".
Those are socialist policies, not a million miles from the policies of Marx and the Labour Party's old Clause 4:-
"To secure for the workers by hand or by brain the full fruits of their industry and the most equitable distribution thereof that may be possible upon the basis of the common ownership of the means of production, distribution, and exchange, and the best obtainable system of popular administration and control of each industry or service."
But I still believe that there's a certain amount of witch-hunting. There's a strong groupthink element too. Very few people make an issue of people flying off to Switzerland for a weekend of skiing, even though it's probably a more pointless thing to do.
Socialism is just communism that hasn't succeeded yet. If you want to look at socialism at work, check out the UK, where we are having civil liberties eroded by the day. It's amusing to hear people say "under a Labour government!" as though socialism has a noble history in human rights and civil liberties.
Nationalist, no. Libertarian, yes.
You might also like to see what Hitler did with regard to nationalising industries.
There's no such thing as totalitarianism. It's never been achieved. There are degrees of government control, and socialism is taking a walk down that path.