the larger screen an iPad offers may very well eventually lead me to purchase an iPad (AFTER the first generation!).
I'm an early adopter, you insensitive clod!
Joking aside, this is exactly the kind of reasonable disagreement I wish I saw more of on the net. It's almost like Pres. Obama took over SlashDot from CmdrTaco.
I think they did copy/paste as well as they could with the interface, but I kind of hate it. It's not uncommon that I'm doing something and the "copy/select" option comes up, and I'm just not interested in it. I think it triggers too easily.
I probably use it once for every 50 times the option shows up on my screen. And even then, I think I could live without it.
God bless the crybabies; we would never get the features we don't need or want if it weren't for them.
Why do people care so freakin' much about streaming music players? I just don't get it. What's wrong with buying your music and synching it on your phone if you want to browse at the same time?
I mean, I understand that it's a nice feature, but if a restaurant opens around the corner and they don't serve caviar, I wouldn't freak out and say that they're not worth their salt as a restaurant because they don't serve caviar. They serve what they serve because they're good at it, and it's something that they feel will serve the dining needs of a significant target market.
Even the iPod/iPhone allows this. I can listen to music through my iPod Touch's native music player app while playing a game without a problem. It's only the use of third-party music players like Pandora that are blocked here.
I'm not saying that there's no use at all for multitasking, but I agree with the GP that for the great majority of users, "save-state-and-switch-app" is a good enough solution.
Pandora must be thrilled that they're essentially the poster child for what's wrong with the lack of multitasking. I'm sure it's great for their business. But the market--outside of the/. crowd--I'm sure most people wouldn't notice that it's missing.
Now, in my ideal world, an i{Pad,Pod Touch,Phone} would have the ability to dock, drive a full-sized monitor or two, connected to a USB or bluetooth keyboard and mouse, and when docked, act like a full MacOS X computer. But do I want my 3d rendering programs giving life to my animations while I'm talking on the phone on the same device? Nah.
True. I think that Google should put an app on their Android phones that recognizes when someone is connected to a GVoice vmail box, and does the recording and processing locally. I figure that'd make a much more accurate translator.
Hey glum, Jen tonight. It's apologize for it, interrupting our conversation in early as this afternoon, yes, so I wanted to returning your call and you know check in with you further. Alright, hope you, I hope you're doing well done. Sounded like you, works but alright. Well I'll call me later. I'll talk to you soon. Bye.
Better? I don't know. Different, for sure. Before the iPad came out, I thought for sure I'd want some sort of dual-screen folding tablet thing, and the courier does look pretty cool for many tasks. But for browsing the web, that big, uninterrupted iPad window is pretty nice.
Before I invest in either, I really have to think about what I'm going to be doing with it. It's nice to see these sorts of devices really coming into their own. As much as I have an affinity for Apple devices, they're definitely not the only solution in town.
Is anyone calling it a netbook? I don't think anyone is saying that it's a netbook; they're saying that people who say they want a netbook really--for the most part--want a laptop. As such, what they're saying is that for people who don't need a notebook's capabilities, for people who want a multi-purpose internet access, gaming and lightweight computing platform, a well-designed tablet is a better fit. And what Apple is betting on is the idea that this year, 10 million people who have been thinking about a mobile computing device will agree that the iPad is a better fit for their needs than a netbook.
I personally wouldn't bet against them, although 10 million might be a little optimistic.
There. Fixed that for you. I'm not going to try to convince you to buy an iPad; why do you think that your reasons for buying a device are the same as or better than anyone else's?
The venom with which many geeks respond to the iPad astounds me. It's a tool, that's all. Don't like it? Don't buy it. But when you ridicule someone for being interested, you sound like a moron. I had a neighbor once who was actually disgusted that I bought a Kia Sportage. He told me all about what his car could do with it's hemi and modified suspension, wide tires and upgraded exhaust system. He said he'd challenge me to a race, any time, any day.
I told him I'd accept, as long as it was on a curvy, snowy mountain road in Lake Tahoe.
Don't get me wrong. I love fast cars. I love being able to hit the gas and have the tires squirrel out a little as I go from 60 to 100 in a few seconds. But I love skiing even more, so I bought the car that was right for the job.
For so many people, a simple interface without a lot of flexibility is all they need. It's "good enough". Your experience with the iPod Touch is almost exactly parallel to mine (although I like it fine for listening to music if and when I can put on headphones and block out the world), and I think the iPad is a great idea. I'm thinking of going for the low-end one with the 3g option. I'll probably wait a couple of revisions, not only to see if there are problems, but also to see if any competitor comes up with something better. If Dell makes a better tablet, then fine. I'll buy a Dell.
And I have to say, I totally agree with the Apple stance on netbooks. I've used a few, and they're fine and flexible and all, but if I'm doing something that needs a full keyboard, then I'm interested in a full sized laptop. I know there are people out there who are price sensitive, but that's not really who buys and uses netbooks. The netbook market is geeks who like to max out whatever hardware they're using. If they want to buy a $200 system that can run Windows or Linux and play their favorite Win-based game, more power to them. Based on my experience, I'm not going to buy anything like that, except maybe for my kid when he gets old enough to learn how to code.
Apple is a consumer electronics company, and they are building products that maybe a significant portion of SlashDot doesn't care about or won't use for philosophical reasons. Does that mean it's a bad product? I don't know. To draw a parallel based on the common joke about the product, I'm a man and have never, ever had a need for a maxi pad. But to say that it's worthless because it won't do anything for a man is ridiculous. It ignores the three billion people in the world who might indeed need to buy thousands of them over each of their lifetimes.
Yeah, I could, too. It was my bad. Fungi are a step up, closer to plants, much more complex organisms. Thanks for apparently jumping in on my behalf, but save your karma. I was just trolling.
Touche. My bad, absolutely. But whatever; I was clearly trolling. I didn't feel a huge need to be totally accurate. For all the responses I got about yeast being a fungus, I guess Tinactin probably sells pretty well among the/. set.
Or maybe someone should call them "yeasties". In another thread, some slashdotter pointed out that yeast bacteria are perfectly content to ferment and ferment and ferment until alcohol kills off their whole colony. I wonder if, in their short life, some of the more "successful" bacteria scorn the ones who suggest that a different approach would be wiser.
Or, considering that the name of the language is actually a reference to Monty Python (Guido's a fan), they could use just about any animal from the MP lore. Of course, the only one I can think of is a dead parrot.
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the larger screen an iPad offers may very well eventually lead me to purchase an iPad (AFTER the first generation!).
I'm an early adopter, you insensitive clod!
Joking aside, this is exactly the kind of reasonable disagreement I wish I saw more of on the net. It's almost like Pres. Obama took over SlashDot from CmdrTaco.
Woosh. :)
I think they did copy/paste as well as they could with the interface, but I kind of hate it. It's not uncommon that I'm doing something and the "copy/select" option comes up, and I'm just not interested in it. I think it triggers too easily.
I probably use it once for every 50 times the option shows up on my screen. And even then, I think I could live without it.
God bless the crybabies; we would never get the features we don't need or want if it weren't for them.
Why do people care so freakin' much about streaming music players? I just don't get it. What's wrong with buying your music and synching it on your phone if you want to browse at the same time?
I mean, I understand that it's a nice feature, but if a restaurant opens around the corner and they don't serve caviar, I wouldn't freak out and say that they're not worth their salt as a restaurant because they don't serve caviar. They serve what they serve because they're good at it, and it's something that they feel will serve the dining needs of a significant target market.
Like, OMG! Pandora FTL! What's up with that?!
As long as the Death Penalty exists, there can be no justice.
There: fixed that for you.
Even the iPod/iPhone allows this. I can listen to music through my iPod Touch's native music player app while playing a game without a problem. It's only the use of third-party music players like Pandora that are blocked here.
/. crowd--I'm sure most people wouldn't notice that it's missing.
I'm not saying that there's no use at all for multitasking, but I agree with the GP that for the great majority of users, "save-state-and-switch-app" is a good enough solution.
Pandora must be thrilled that they're essentially the poster child for what's wrong with the lack of multitasking. I'm sure it's great for their business. But the market--outside of the
Now, in my ideal world, an i{Pad,Pod Touch,Phone} would have the ability to dock, drive a full-sized monitor or two, connected to a USB or bluetooth keyboard and mouse, and when docked, act like a full MacOS X computer. But do I want my 3d rendering programs giving life to my animations while I'm talking on the phone on the same device? Nah.
Vision, schmision, I say.
Yeah, and the Internet? I think it might be time to take it seriously.
True. I think that Google should put an app on their Android phones that recognizes when someone is connected to a GVoice vmail box, and does the recording and processing locally. I figure that'd make a much more accurate translator.
Hey glum, Jen tonight. It's apologize for it, interrupting our conversation in early as this afternoon, yes, so I wanted to returning your call and you know check in with you further. Alright, hope you, I hope you're doing well done. Sounded like you, works but alright. Well I'll call me later. I'll talk to you soon. Bye.
Better? I don't know. Different, for sure. Before the iPad came out, I thought for sure I'd want some sort of dual-screen folding tablet thing, and the courier does look pretty cool for many tasks. But for browsing the web, that big, uninterrupted iPad window is pretty nice.
Before I invest in either, I really have to think about what I'm going to be doing with it. It's nice to see these sorts of devices really coming into their own. As much as I have an affinity for Apple devices, they're definitely not the only solution in town.
And I'd guess that certain DOM tricks, like drag-and-drop, don't work too well.
"Breaks" is the problem. I prefer brakes.
But it's precisely an iPod Touch that's been enlarged. Nothing more, nothing less.
Well, one thing more: you have the option of leveling up to 3G internet, which also adds GPS.
Is anyone calling it a netbook? I don't think anyone is saying that it's a netbook; they're saying that people who say they want a netbook really--for the most part--want a laptop. As such, what they're saying is that for people who don't need a notebook's capabilities, for people who want a multi-purpose internet access, gaming and lightweight computing platform, a well-designed tablet is a better fit. And what Apple is betting on is the idea that this year, 10 million people who have been thinking about a mobile computing device will agree that the iPad is a better fit for their needs than a netbook.
I personally wouldn't bet against them, although 10 million might be a little optimistic.
From my perspective NetBook > ipad
There. Fixed that for you. I'm not going to try to convince you to buy an iPad; why do you think that your reasons for buying a device are the same as or better than anyone else's?
+1 Totally Agree
The venom with which many geeks respond to the iPad astounds me. It's a tool, that's all. Don't like it? Don't buy it. But when you ridicule someone for being interested, you sound like a moron. I had a neighbor once who was actually disgusted that I bought a Kia Sportage. He told me all about what his car could do with it's hemi and modified suspension, wide tires and upgraded exhaust system. He said he'd challenge me to a race, any time, any day.
I told him I'd accept, as long as it was on a curvy, snowy mountain road in Lake Tahoe.
Don't get me wrong. I love fast cars. I love being able to hit the gas and have the tires squirrel out a little as I go from 60 to 100 in a few seconds. But I love skiing even more, so I bought the car that was right for the job.
For so many people, a simple interface without a lot of flexibility is all they need. It's "good enough". Your experience with the iPod Touch is almost exactly parallel to mine (although I like it fine for listening to music if and when I can put on headphones and block out the world), and I think the iPad is a great idea. I'm thinking of going for the low-end one with the 3g option. I'll probably wait a couple of revisions, not only to see if there are problems, but also to see if any competitor comes up with something better. If Dell makes a better tablet, then fine. I'll buy a Dell.
And I have to say, I totally agree with the Apple stance on netbooks. I've used a few, and they're fine and flexible and all, but if I'm doing something that needs a full keyboard, then I'm interested in a full sized laptop. I know there are people out there who are price sensitive, but that's not really who buys and uses netbooks. The netbook market is geeks who like to max out whatever hardware they're using. If they want to buy a $200 system that can run Windows or Linux and play their favorite Win-based game, more power to them. Based on my experience, I'm not going to buy anything like that, except maybe for my kid when he gets old enough to learn how to code.
Apple is a consumer electronics company, and they are building products that maybe a significant portion of SlashDot doesn't care about or won't use for philosophical reasons. Does that mean it's a bad product? I don't know. To draw a parallel based on the common joke about the product, I'm a man and have never, ever had a need for a maxi pad. But to say that it's worthless because it won't do anything for a man is ridiculous. It ignores the three billion people in the world who might indeed need to buy thousands of them over each of their lifetimes.
Without reading both books, I can't take sides on the merits.
Can't and shouldn't are two very different things. I say you can take whatever sides you wish!
Note: the above post was made as an AC so nobody can point out the (probable) volumes of hypocrisy in the poster's own history.
Yeah, I could, too. It was my bad. Fungi are a step up, closer to plants, much more complex organisms. Thanks for apparently jumping in on my behalf, but save your karma. I was just trolling.
Touche. My bad, absolutely. But whatever; I was clearly trolling. I didn't feel a huge need to be totally accurate. For all the responses I got about yeast being a fungus, I guess Tinactin probably sells pretty well among the /. set.
Thanks. This is why I trust peer-reviewed science.
Thanks!
Or maybe someone should call them "yeasties". In another thread, some slashdotter pointed out that yeast bacteria are perfectly content to ferment and ferment and ferment until alcohol kills off their whole colony. I wonder if, in their short life, some of the more "successful" bacteria scorn the ones who suggest that a different approach would be wiser.
Or, considering that the name of the language is actually a reference to Monty Python (Guido's a fan), they could use just about any animal from the MP lore. Of course, the only one I can think of is a dead parrot.
You may have been confused by the fact that there's a camel book and a llama book about perl. As far as I know, there's no dromedary book.