How do you not understand this? This problem has been solved with software.
1. Spam filtering software stops 99.x% of spam, the rest is put in a quarantine and held for X days (user configurable) 2. User says "OMG!!1oneone!1 I cant findz muh emailzz!11" 3. You remind user of where they can login to view e-mails marked as spam (normally a pre-written e-mail, copy->paste) 4. User logs in, finds message, clicks "deliver e-mail" 5. You go back to browsing horse porn
Do you not understand that this is how multi-billion dollar international business work? I'm not sure who you are or who you're clients are, but I promise that their communication aren't any more important than some of the THOUSANDS (millions?) of people who use a system that functions as outlined above.
It *IS* the "usual OSS antispam stuff" you twit. It's a highly customized version of spamasssassin. You don't have a *clue* what you're talking about. I'm glad you have one example of an e-mail being blocked. How about the trillions of e-mails correctly marked? No system is perfect, but the alternative (no anti-spam) isn't acceptable.
#1 You're lying, no one can go through spam that fast
#2 Even if that was all in fact true, I spend zero minutes a day dealing with spam (IronPort)
By the way, even if it was true (and it's obviously not) and we take an average of 4 minutes per day to deal with spam, that means you give up entire 24 hour day per year to spammers or three entire work days.
Now, consider that most spam solutions cost about $20-$50/user/year and you're wasting three entire business days dealing with spam, all the sudden your system doesn't sound so ideal.
We recently purchased three IronPort C150's with 3 years of service and 3 years of platinum support for about half the price Postini charges and it also includes Email Encryption (they acquired the old PostX software). The email encryption is pretty slick. It will pick up on socials, aba routing numbers and anything in any dictionary you upload (ships with a pretty robust HIPAA dictionary we're using now). Spam filtering is phenomenal, includes Sophos anti-virus and the web interface for it is sweeeeeet.
I used to run 3 fedora mail exchangers with clamav and spamassassin and everytime I realize how much of a hassle it was relative to the IronPorts I just want to hang myself for not doing this sooner.
"What do you think - is it better to allow the botnet to continue unabated, or perhaps to risk crashing a computer controlling a heart monitor somewhere?"
Absolutely. Quickly before the worm itself crashes the machine.
I say call it unrealistic expectations on your part.
Did you expect the web to be a 3d hologram that you can have sex with by 2008?
We have hundreds of millions of people interacting from all over the planet. We have google. We have social networking. We've got skype. We've got World of Warcraft. We've got remote classrooms and teleworking. Government agencies conduct business across it. We're performing surgery from thousands of miles away using robots. And I buy everything but my groceries on it.
They forced the providers to pay through the teeth, who now have to manage it, and google still get's access to it?
Umm, I fail to see how Google "took a beating" ?
Why would scientists care about the fairy tales people make up? They deal in fact, they don't care if it says days, weeks, minutes or eons, its irrelevant.
A "submarine team" huh? Is that military jargon? You conspiracy theorists crack me up. And what exactly is this more efficient way that costs a "few billion or two" ? This should be hilarious. Does it involve the aliens they're working with at area 51?
I guess we'll just ignore the fact that beta was a direct competitor to VHS and just mention it's mighty success in the broadcast arena? Or would you rather discuss minidisc?
Resources there refers to _physical_ resources. The interface would be the API. Microsoft Office is the perfect example of an application that takes advantage of an operating systems ability to manage resources (memory, disk, etc) and provide an interface (API) for the application to (indirectly) access those resources.
"An operating system (OS) is the software that manages the sharing of the resources of a computer and provides programmers with an interface used to access those resources."
That's like saying a car is a machine with 4 wheels, cruise control and A/C because mercedes-benz uses those, so that becomes the definition of all cars. I have quite a few Linux servers without a GUI - is Linux no longer an OS?
" Sure, that statement makes some sense, but in the grand scheme of things, it's the design and usability factor that makes the operating system much easier to use."
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I spend 0 hours per year.
How do you not understand this? This problem has been solved with software.
1. Spam filtering software stops 99.x% of spam, the rest is put in a quarantine and held for X days (user configurable)
2. User says "OMG!!1oneone!1 I cant findz muh emailzz!11"
3. You remind user of where they can login to view e-mails marked as spam (normally a pre-written e-mail, copy->paste)
4. User logs in, finds message, clicks "deliver e-mail"
5. You go back to browsing horse porn
Do you not understand that this is how multi-billion dollar international business work? I'm not sure who you are or who you're clients are, but I promise that their communication aren't any more important than some of the THOUSANDS (millions?) of people who use a system that functions as outlined above.
It *IS* the "usual OSS antispam stuff" you twit. It's a highly customized version of spamasssassin. You don't have a *clue* what you're talking about. I'm glad you have one example of an e-mail being blocked. How about the trillions of e-mails correctly marked? No system is perfect, but the alternative (no anti-spam) isn't acceptable.
How do you know your ISP isn't doing the same thing? For the same reason people trust google -- you have a contract with them that says they won't.
You can put up your tinfoil hat, FUD like that doesn't fly here.
#1 You're lying, no one can go through spam that fast
#2 Even if that was all in fact true, I spend zero minutes a day dealing with spam (IronPort)
By the way, even if it was true (and it's obviously not) and we take an average of 4 minutes per day to deal with spam, that means you give up entire 24 hour day per year to spammers or three entire work days.
Now, consider that most spam solutions cost about $20-$50/user/year and you're wasting three entire business days dealing with spam, all the sudden your system doesn't sound so ideal.
We recently purchased three IronPort C150's with 3 years of service and 3 years of platinum support for about half the price Postini charges and it also includes Email Encryption (they acquired the old PostX software). The email encryption is pretty slick. It will pick up on socials, aba routing numbers and anything in any dictionary you upload (ships with a pretty robust HIPAA dictionary we're using now). Spam filtering is phenomenal, includes Sophos anti-virus and the web interface for it is sweeeeeet.
I used to run 3 fedora mail exchangers with clamav and spamassassin and everytime I realize how much of a hassle it was relative to the IronPorts I just want to hang myself for not doing this sooner.
"What do you think - is it better to allow the botnet to continue unabated, or perhaps to risk crashing a computer controlling a heart monitor somewhere?"
Absolutely. Quickly before the worm itself crashes the machine.
I agree with everything except the brighter comment. LCD's are exceptionally bright, actually, in most cases, far too bright.
I say call it unrealistic expectations on your part.
Did you expect the web to be a 3d hologram that you can have sex with by 2008?
We have hundreds of millions of people interacting from all over the planet. We have google. We have social networking. We've got skype. We've got World of Warcraft. We've got remote classrooms and teleworking. Government agencies conduct business across it. We're performing surgery from thousands of miles away using robots. And I buy everything but my groceries on it.
What exactly did you expect it to do?
Wait - so your argument is for me to come up with my own counter argument? Welcome to the twilight zone ...
They forced the providers to pay through the teeth, who now have to manage it, and google still get's access to it? Umm, I fail to see how Google "took a beating" ?
Just run the last mile over wireless, and we will in a few years (read: WiMax).
"Whatever we get, it is double-plus ungood. It is increasingly clear to me that the www, at least, has been dead for about a decade."
Dead in what sense? Because if I compare the world wide web in 1998 to the one we have to day, dead is not how I would describe it.
Who is this guy and how did this biased, baseless, crap make it to the front page of slashdot?
"Sooner or later someone will work out a way to get Windows applications running seamlessly on Intel Mac, if they haven't already."
You already can:
http://www.parallels.com/en/products/desktop/features/coherence/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rN9jNNeEd98
"Except that Scientists don't want to accept"
Why would scientists care about the fairy tales people make up? They deal in fact, they don't care if it says days, weeks, minutes or eons, its irrelevant.
I'm incensed with baseless conspiracy theories. See I'm from the US, where people are innocent until proven guilty.
A "submarine team" huh? Is that military jargon? You conspiracy theorists crack me up. And what exactly is this more efficient way that costs a "few billion or two" ? This should be hilarious. Does it involve the aliens they're working with at area 51?
I guess we'll just ignore the fact that beta was a direct competitor to VHS and just mention it's mighty success in the broadcast arena? Or would you rather discuss minidisc?
Resources there refers to _physical_ resources. The interface would be the API. Microsoft Office is the perfect example of an application that takes advantage of an operating systems ability to manage resources (memory, disk, etc) and provide an interface (API) for the application to (indirectly) access those resources.
If I mistake a horse for a piano does that make a horse a piano?
I'm sorry I must of missed the part where I insisted they be able to distinguish between the two. Maybe you could point it out for me?
I'm just here to shoot down ill-informed "journalists". I'll be in the back if you need me again.
Whether or not you can grasp the difference doesn't change a thing. Not understanding nuclear physics won't make it cease to exist.
No.
"An operating system (OS) is the software that manages the sharing of the resources of a computer and provides programmers with an interface used to access those resources."
That's like saying a car is a machine with 4 wheels, cruise control and A/C because mercedes-benz uses those, so that becomes the definition of all cars. I have quite a few Linux servers without a GUI - is Linux no longer an OS?
" Sure, that statement makes some sense, but in the grand scheme of things, it's the design and usability factor that makes the operating system much easier to use."
No.
Much worse - your information security administrator.