We had a manager that tried moving to using disk based backup. If you have to rotate the disks, stop now, don't even try. We lost more backplanes and disks in the first 6 months than you would believe. Either put the disks somewhere else and replicate the data to them or use tape. Hard drives are not meant to be moved around constantly.
Well if I could steal my service from a few million locations I'd probably have pretty good uptime too. Oh and if the only service I needed to deliver was 1kb/s ascii text control channel, yeah, I think I'd do ok.
ok one more time and I'm done: the new nomenclature should help reduce confusion. it doesn't erase the currently existing processors. feel free to continue ranting until your blue in the face i'm done.
I like the idea of abstracting the physical location of files. You don't care what FILE contains class Foo you just want to access one of it's methods. Being able to group several related code fragments together is really nice. I don't see this as revolutionary just a neat idea.
You realize 2010 is the current year, right? Yes, the transition will still be slightly confusing because it will include the old product line. The point of my original post was that the i3/i5/i7 nomenclature will help reduce the confusion.
I can't imagine any instance in which I'd personally buy a "Core" branded processor for a desktop PC, so you can pretty much just ignore them, which should make it easier for you.
All being phased out. All a generation old. You're trying to make this more complex than it is by throwing the last generation of processors into the discussion. Although "Pentium" will live on for a little while sitting just above the Celeron line. There's still some value to be squeezed out of the Pentium name.
celeron -> pentium -> i3 -> i5 -> i7
Here's an article that will help clarify. Yes, you might have to read a couple pages to understand the processor lineup from a multibillion dollar CPU manufacturing company. No, it's not rocket science to keep up with.
The i3, i5 and i7 monikers denote CPU features. For example, the i5 and i7 both have VT whereas the i3 does not. This makes it a lot easier to compare processors of similar clock speeds.
Did you just compare assembling a PC from off the shelf components to building a jet engine? I think calling that analogy strained would be the understatement of the year.
Honestly, typically per year I'm upgrading CPU, RAM and motherboard (if not graphics adapter as well). It runs around $500-$800 per year, depending on how crazy I'm feeling.
Sorry I didn't meant to imply that being a computer scientist intrinsically meant you should understand consumer computer hardware. Just that I'm surprised people that spend that much time working with computers (hardware or theory) don't follow consumer PC hardware to a point where they can assemble a PC. Or at least have some other "geek" friend to ask.
I agree. If you're looking middle of the road you can find some great deals by building AMD systems. But, if you want a really good system AMD can't really compete at the high end at this point.
I spend probably 40 hours a week using my home computer(s). $300 a year (alternating between two systems, one per year) to upgrade them to the latest and greatest CPU is a no-brainer. We're talking $0.14/hour to have the latest and greatest CPU. Not to mention the power savings offset every time I upgrade to a new CPU. Yes please.
Once you understand Intel's naming scheme it's actually very helpful and makes a lot of sense. It's not perfect with some of the overlap but overall I think it's quite an improvement.
"That's why they overpay CDW and others to handle it for them. And about half the time those guys don't know what they are talking about."
You really don't need to know too much about hardware to work in corporate IT. You don't ever deal with PC's below the system level. You just buy assembled PCs from major manufacturers based on the hardware requirements from your software vendors. When it breaks you ship it back for a replacement.
And for what it's worth our CDW-G rep is fantastic.
Yes when people have so much money they can blow $2k-$3k without spending so much as a day to review their options (read: more money than sense) they just head straight to the apple store, point at the prettiest thing on the counter and hand them their credit card.
It's shocking to me how many "computer scientists" don't even follow modern x86 computer hardware enough to assemble a PC. Something any competent 14 year old can do in an afternoon.
You've got 1Gb/s fiber and you still get the same lousy 5mb/s from every website just like the rest of the world. Congratulations on building out a fiber infrastructure at today's costs 10 years before you need it!
"Stuck inside? If something the winters were awesome as a kid. Snowboarding, playing in the snow, cute girls with red cheeks and all the crazy stuff we used to do (and as a little vigilante throw snowballs at cars and run hiding:). Of course, when you got inside you could enjoy a game of Civilization. I would take all of that anytime over surfing or making sand castles on the beach as a kid, as these things I can do now as an adult."
Well you can have your red cheeks I'll take tanned hotties and thong bikinis.
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We had a manager that tried moving to using disk based backup. If you have to rotate the disks, stop now, don't even try. We lost more backplanes and disks in the first 6 months than you would believe. Either put the disks somewhere else and replicate the data to them or use tape. Hard drives are not meant to be moved around constantly.
Because their embarrassingly high tax rate offsets the cost?
Well if I could steal my service from a few million locations I'd probably have pretty good uptime too. Oh and if the only service I needed to deliver was 1kb/s ascii text control channel, yeah, I think I'd do ok.
ok one more time and I'm done: the new nomenclature should help reduce confusion. it doesn't erase the currently existing processors. feel free to continue ranting until your blue in the face i'm done.
I like the idea of abstracting the physical location of files. You don't care what FILE contains class Foo you just want to access one of it's methods. Being able to group several related code fragments together is really nice. I don't see this as revolutionary just a neat idea.
You realize 2010 is the current year, right? Yes, the transition will still be slightly confusing because it will include the old product line. The point of my original post was that the i3/i5/i7 nomenclature will help reduce the confusion.
I can't imagine any instance in which I'd personally buy a "Core" branded processor for a desktop PC, so you can pretty much just ignore them, which should make it easier for you.
yes, essentially. just reusing what I can (case, hard drives, dvd rom, power supply, peripherals).
"Core 2 duo? Core 2 quad? Pentium d?"
All being phased out. All a generation old. You're trying to make this more complex than it is by throwing the last generation of processors into the discussion. Although "Pentium" will live on for a little while sitting just above the Celeron line. There's still some value to be squeezed out of the Pentium name.
celeron -> pentium -> i3 -> i5 -> i7
Here's an article that will help clarify. Yes, you might have to read a couple pages to understand the processor lineup from a multibillion dollar CPU manufacturing company. No, it's not rocket science to keep up with.
ok this is a little too ridiculous to continue responding.
The i3, i5 and i7 monikers denote CPU features. For example, the i5 and i7 both have VT whereas the i3 does not. This makes it a lot easier to compare processors of similar clock speeds.
Did you just compare assembling a PC from off the shelf components to building a jet engine? I think calling that analogy strained would be the understatement of the year.
Honestly, typically per year I'm upgrading CPU, RAM and motherboard (if not graphics adapter as well). It runs around $500-$800 per year, depending on how crazy I'm feeling.
Sorry I didn't meant to imply that being a computer scientist intrinsically meant you should understand consumer computer hardware. Just that I'm surprised people that spend that much time working with computers (hardware or theory) don't follow consumer PC hardware to a point where they can assemble a PC. Or at least have some other "geek" friend to ask.
I'm sceptical of anyone who thinks a 50% increase is doubling.
I agree. If you're looking middle of the road you can find some great deals by building AMD systems. But, if you want a really good system AMD can't really compete at the high end at this point.
"As a geek, I build my own. As a consultant, I push pre-built."
Amen. When you can provide your own support you don't need to pay Dell for it.
I spend probably 40 hours a week using my home computer(s). $300 a year (alternating between two systems, one per year) to upgrade them to the latest and greatest CPU is a no-brainer. We're talking $0.14/hour to have the latest and greatest CPU. Not to mention the power savings offset every time I upgrade to a new CPU. Yes please.
"Core i7-870 has better performance than the Core i7-920"
That's not _entirely_ true. If you need massive memory throughput the i7-920 still wins. It's really workstation vs desktop.
Thanks to the new Intel naming scheme if you need VT just make sure it's an i5 or better.
Once you understand Intel's naming scheme it's actually very helpful and makes a lot of sense. It's not perfect with some of the overlap but overall I think it's quite an improvement.
"That's why they overpay CDW and others to handle it for them. And about half the time those guys don't know what they are talking about."
You really don't need to know too much about hardware to work in corporate IT. You don't ever deal with PC's below the system level. You just buy assembled PCs from major manufacturers based on the hardware requirements from your software vendors. When it breaks you ship it back for a replacement.
And for what it's worth our CDW-G rep is fantastic.
Yes when people have so much money they can blow $2k-$3k without spending so much as a day to review their options (read: more money than sense) they just head straight to the apple store, point at the prettiest thing on the counter and hand them their credit card.
It's shocking to me how many "computer scientists" don't even follow modern x86 computer hardware enough to assemble a PC. Something any competent 14 year old can do in an afternoon.
You've got 1Gb/s fiber and you still get the same lousy 5mb/s from every website just like the rest of the world. Congratulations on building out a fiber infrastructure at today's costs 10 years before you need it!
"Stuck inside? If something the winters were awesome as a kid. Snowboarding, playing in the snow, cute girls with red cheeks and all the crazy stuff we used to do (and as a little vigilante throw snowballs at cars and run hiding :). Of course, when you got inside you could enjoy a game of Civilization. I would take all of that anytime over surfing or making sand castles on the beach as a kid, as these things I can do now as an adult."
Well you can have your red cheeks I'll take tanned hotties and thong bikinis.