I hardly think ONE socialist on the city council counts as the whole city voting for socialism... And frankly, she's done a lot of good things for the city. Also, that higher min wage isn't really that insane... It's actually right around what it would be if minimum wage had kept up with inflation through the years. That's kind of the point.
What will you do when Seattle rolls along just fine, it's economy does fine, no jobs are lost, and the extra money in the economy helps it grow? Are you prepared to think about your beliefs when Seattle doesn't turn into Mad Max?
I help with the hardware grants program at Free Geek. I've seen and interacted with just about every non profit there IS in Portland, and handed over computer gear to most of them. There are some non profits that do AMAZING work. Free Geek is one of them. There are a LOT of non profits that do... Stuff.
If we're going to hand out kick as internet connections, I want them going to the Non Profit organizations that do a lot of immediate good work. I love the Portland Fruit Tree project. They are NEAT, and they do good things. The Urban Farm Collective does a LOT of good work for people.... but Free Geek can put a kick ass connection to WORK in a way that the PFTP and the UFC cannot.
You're both very principled. Good for you. But this is the real world.
Also, at this level, the corruption you're so worried about is pretty minimal. I assure you, there are no non profits housed at the mayors house.
Rokstar? What's it like to be able to just pull conspiracies out of your ass to support your own beliefs like that? I can't quite seem to manage it. I'm always bothered by a lack of evidence when I do it, and I can't hold it together.
If you seriously think there's a secret cabal of white people who bothered to give a SHIT about the name Redskins, and actually managed to scrape together funding to prop up some token natives with fancy cars and new clothes... vs. Some natives who've been fighting this fight for forever actually manage to make some headway in a long standing legal fight.... I don't know man. Occam's razor is looking pretty bad for your case there....
If you were a decent human being you'd know that it's the intent behind the words as much as the words themselves, you redneck honky. That high school filled with Navajo CAN use the term Redskin, just as it's quite acceptable for one black person to call another "nigga". You try it. It doesn't work for you. That's because it's up to the person being derided to decide if something is offensive. It's NOT up to the ignorant racist prick doing the deriding.
I'm quite fine with making Redneck jokes with my family. I'd actually be offended if someone else called my family rednecks in a derogatory manner.
This is common sense, and you should know this sort of empathic human social skill by this point in your life.
Eh. I feel comfortable making Redneck Honky jokes with my family, to poke fun at ourselves. I'd actually be pretty annoyed if someone outside my group did it. Sometimes the intent behind the word makes all the difference.
The person derided gets to decide. Not you. The white guy doesn't get to decide if Nigger is an offensive word, any more than he gets to decide if Redskin is an offensive word. You SHOULD know this already if you weren't being snarky.
who gets to decide? Not you, not the assholes below defending it with snark.
The person it's deriding gets to decide if it's offensive. That's kind of how it works. The white guy doesn't get to decide if Nigger is a bad word. The white guy doesn't get to decide if Chink is a bad word. The white guy doesn't get to decide if Redskin is a bad word. Etc etc etc... This is plain common sense, and everyone arguing against it is an ass.
I don't know where this scalping thing is from. Natives were (despite their obvious asian heritage) described as being of "red" skin color. Which is as stupid as the "Yellow" skin color, and my peachy gold self is definitely not white, but whatever.
You Ignorant Redneck Honkies. -- See what I did there? Doesn't seem offensive to ME... It's up to YOU to decide, because you're the ones I'm deriding.
No, that's pretty much it, at all. Right there. If there's no regulation, they can launch and push their own services and degrade everybody else's services.
regulation or no, all companies seek to turn themselves into monopolies, so as to maximize profits. We regulate to prevent monopoly behavior.
As for your dirty diaper law analogy? What? That made as much sense as a hat on a llama. Actually, less. And then it leaped to regulation limits options is always bad, which does NOT logically follow. You need to read up on your logical fallacies. https://yourlogicalfallacyis.c...
Given the incredible good work done by a LOT of non profits, why NOT? Google's OK with it, or they wouldn't have agreed to it. Why the hell SHOULDN'T governments negotiate for free service for non profits? Why the hell shouldn't governments negotiate for free services for anyone? What's wrong with that? Are you just one of those people that can't be happy when your neighbor gets something good and you don't?
I'm sorry, what are you outraged about? No one is giving free service to "city government officials' friends". And having my local city council approve a city wide rollout of a new service is kinda what a city council is FOR. When something affects an entire city, yeah, I want it to go through the city council.
As for the fees, I've started a small business. There were fees. I registered, did some paperwork, what about it? There SHOULD be a registry of businesses, with paperwork on who started them. That's a value to me, and to the city. The fees were negligable. I live in Portland. If you can't afford the tiny little paperwrork fees, your business sucks.
You sound like someone who hates government, just because. I quite like that there's someone out there with an actual strategic plan, managing services and paying attention. There's incredible valued added in that. My business is quite helped by decent roads, electrical lines(I wouldn't be able to operate my machines with spotty service), etc etc etc. It's been my experience that people that are pissed at government just take for granted all that they GET from having a stable system in place to run our society. That it IS taken for granted is, to me, a sign of it's success.
You'd stick with Comcast over Goggle fiber? Haahaahahahahah! Meanwhile, Google is scooping up your data ANYWAY. Comcast probably is too, you really think they' ignore that potential revenue stream?
Speaking as a Portland resident.... EEEEEEEEeeeeee! I hope this goes through. This has been done in other cities. Should I be rounding up my neighbors now so we can all say "right here!" together when they offer it? Anyone have the scoop on these "fiber rallies" that the article speaks of? Anyone have any idea how many neighbors I'd need to be effective?
You haven't had real freedom for a LONG time. Blaming Obama just makes you look like an idiot.
Ask yourself how many wars we've been in since WW2. How many of them were fought for the freedom of Americans, and how many of them were fought for economic interests?
Ask yourself if what the CIA did in South America from the 50's was about freedom, or economic interests?
America hasn't been a bastion of Freedom for a long time. Don't blame Obama. Don't even blame Bush. We have less than 50% voter turnout. It's OUR fault.
To all those complaining about the minimum bid... I think that's fair. If they had a yacht, you would expect a minimum bid. If it was a piece of land, you'd expect a minimum bid. If it's some crypto currency worth 1.7mil.... You should expect a minimum bid.
Snowden committed a crime to expose a MUCH GREATER crime. He's a hero, and a patriot. He loves the country, not the government, no the administration. He sacrificed for you, and for me. He should get a FAIR trial, by a jury of his peers, and all the evidence should be exposed to public scrutiny.
I'm a liberal. I'd vote for Colin Powel. He's accomplished, intelligent, and seems to have common sense in spades. He also seems to actually just say what he thinks instead of trying to be "presidential". He'd never make it through a Republican primary though...:D
I'll second that. We can all acknowledge that O's peace price was a "Not Bush" prize. As much as I am pissed at Obama for being weak and not actually fighting for any of the changes to the system that he spoke of on the campaign trail...... He at least didn't enter a war in Afghanistan because a group in that country pissed us off (Think about that for a second. A radical Canadian group blows up a pipeline. We do NOT invade Canada!) or invade Iraq based on shitty intelligence AND for no good reason at all (Note, ISIS just took Fallujah. We are leaving that country more fucked than when we came in. Saddam was a bastard, but at least he was stable-ish and the Taliban were NOT in Iraq.).
I don't have cable. No TV for me. And yes, I am quite smug about it.... But I love GoT. I watch it on google play. No, they don't have the latest season. That's ok, since I read the books, I know what happens, and I can wait. I'm patient. Most people just torrent it, and I wish HBO would stop being assholes and put season 4 on google play... right now it's easier to pirate than to watch legally for me. Grumble...
I'm in Portland, and my small business is growing. There has been no red tape that I've noticed. There has been a few small fees for registering, some basic common sense rules... What in specific are you complaining about? I realize that my small business is mostly under the radar, and perhaps you're talking about a mid sized or large business.... But this is the city where everyone's uncle starts a food cart. It's not hard to start a business here.
Immigration reform will never happen because our society is addicted to near slave labor. You will never have reform, because powerful people will lobby against it. You'll never have truly closed borders either, for the same reason.
I happen to agree with you. Going after the employers would fix it. It'll never happen though.
A side effect of all this would either be that we'd outsource all of our farm jobs to mexico for good, or you'd be paying double for your strawberries and we'd actually have to pay a decent wage for a day of honest labor. You tell me which is more likely to happen.:D
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I hardly think ONE socialist on the city council counts as the whole city voting for socialism... And frankly, she's done a lot of good things for the city. Also, that higher min wage isn't really that insane... It's actually right around what it would be if minimum wage had kept up with inflation through the years. That's kind of the point.
What will you do when Seattle rolls along just fine, it's economy does fine, no jobs are lost, and the extra money in the economy helps it grow? Are you prepared to think about your beliefs when Seattle doesn't turn into Mad Max?
Oh God... No.
I help with the hardware grants program at Free Geek. I've seen and interacted with just about every non profit there IS in Portland, and handed over computer gear to most of them. There are some non profits that do AMAZING work. Free Geek is one of them. There are a LOT of non profits that do... Stuff.
If we're going to hand out kick as internet connections, I want them going to the Non Profit organizations that do a lot of immediate good work. I love the Portland Fruit Tree project. They are NEAT, and they do good things. The Urban Farm Collective does a LOT of good work for people.... but Free Geek can put a kick ass connection to WORK in a way that the PFTP and the UFC cannot.
You're both very principled. Good for you. But this is the real world.
Also, at this level, the corruption you're so worried about is pretty minimal. I assure you, there are no non profits housed at the mayors house.
OOps! Sorry, was directed at Ganjadude.. My apologies, I made a forum faux pas. Sorry Rokstar!
Rokstar? What's it like to be able to just pull conspiracies out of your ass to support your own beliefs like that? I can't quite seem to manage it. I'm always bothered by a lack of evidence when I do it, and I can't hold it together.
If you seriously think there's a secret cabal of white people who bothered to give a SHIT about the name Redskins, and actually managed to scrape together funding to prop up some token natives with fancy cars and new clothes... vs. Some natives who've been fighting this fight for forever actually manage to make some headway in a long standing legal fight.... I don't know man. Occam's razor is looking pretty bad for your case there....
If you were a decent human being you'd know that it's the intent behind the words as much as the words themselves, you redneck honky. That high school filled with Navajo CAN use the term Redskin, just as it's quite acceptable for one black person to call another "nigga". You try it. It doesn't work for you. That's because it's up to the person being derided to decide if something is offensive. It's NOT up to the ignorant racist prick doing the deriding.
I'm quite fine with making Redneck jokes with my family. I'd actually be offended if someone else called my family rednecks in a derogatory manner.
This is common sense, and you should know this sort of empathic human social skill by this point in your life.
Eh. I feel comfortable making Redneck Honky jokes with my family, to poke fun at ourselves. I'd actually be pretty annoyed if someone outside my group did it. Sometimes the intent behind the word makes all the difference.
"Kinda blows up that "derogatory" claim, doesn't that?" ........ uhm. No?
The person derided gets to decide. Not you. The white guy doesn't get to decide if Nigger is an offensive word, any more than he gets to decide if Redskin is an offensive word. You SHOULD know this already if you weren't being snarky.
who gets to decide? Not you, not the assholes below defending it with snark.
The person it's deriding gets to decide if it's offensive. That's kind of how it works. The white guy doesn't get to decide if Nigger is a bad word. The white guy doesn't get to decide if Chink is a bad word. The white guy doesn't get to decide if Redskin is a bad word. Etc etc etc... This is plain common sense, and everyone arguing against it is an ass.
I don't know where this scalping thing is from. Natives were (despite their obvious asian heritage) described as being of "red" skin color. Which is as stupid as the "Yellow" skin color, and my peachy gold self is definitely not white, but whatever.
You Ignorant Redneck Honkies. -- See what I did there? Doesn't seem offensive to ME... It's up to YOU to decide, because you're the ones I'm deriding.
No, that's pretty much it, at all. Right there. If there's no regulation, they can launch and push their own services and degrade everybody else's services.
regulation or no, all companies seek to turn themselves into monopolies, so as to maximize profits. We regulate to prevent monopoly behavior.
As for your dirty diaper law analogy? What? That made as much sense as a hat on a llama. Actually, less. And then it leaped to regulation limits options is always bad, which does NOT logically follow. You need to read up on your logical fallacies. https://yourlogicalfallacyis.c...
Given the incredible good work done by a LOT of non profits, why NOT? Google's OK with it, or they wouldn't have agreed to it. Why the hell SHOULDN'T governments negotiate for free service for non profits? Why the hell shouldn't governments negotiate for free services for anyone? What's wrong with that? Are you just one of those people that can't be happy when your neighbor gets something good and you don't?
I'm sorry, what are you outraged about? No one is giving free service to "city government officials' friends". And having my local city council approve a city wide rollout of a new service is kinda what a city council is FOR. When something affects an entire city, yeah, I want it to go through the city council.
As for the fees, I've started a small business. There were fees. I registered, did some paperwork, what about it? There SHOULD be a registry of businesses, with paperwork on who started them. That's a value to me, and to the city. The fees were negligable. I live in Portland. If you can't afford the tiny little paperwrork fees, your business sucks.
You sound like someone who hates government, just because. I quite like that there's someone out there with an actual strategic plan, managing services and paying attention. There's incredible valued added in that. My business is quite helped by decent roads, electrical lines(I wouldn't be able to operate my machines with spotty service), etc etc etc. It's been my experience that people that are pissed at government just take for granted all that they GET from having a stable system in place to run our society. That it IS taken for granted is, to me, a sign of it's success.
You'd stick with Comcast over Goggle fiber? Haahaahahahahah! Meanwhile, Google is scooping up your data ANYWAY. Comcast probably is too, you really think they' ignore that potential revenue stream?
Speaking as a Portland resident.... EEEEEEEEeeeeee! I hope this goes through. This has been done in other cities. Should I be rounding up my neighbors now so we can all say "right here!" together when they offer it? Anyone have the scoop on these "fiber rallies" that the article speaks of? Anyone have any idea how many neighbors I'd need to be effective?
P.S. Fuck Comcast.
You haven't had real freedom for a LONG time. Blaming Obama just makes you look like an idiot.
Ask yourself how many wars we've been in since WW2. How many of them were fought for the freedom of Americans, and how many of them were fought for economic interests?
Ask yourself if what the CIA did in South America from the 50's was about freedom, or economic interests?
America hasn't been a bastion of Freedom for a long time. Don't blame Obama. Don't even blame Bush. We have less than 50% voter turnout. It's OUR fault.
The ACLU is amazing. Anonymous Coward has no idea how much the ACLU stands up for him.
To all those complaining about the minimum bid... I think that's fair. If they had a yacht, you would expect a minimum bid. If it was a piece of land, you'd expect a minimum bid. If it's some crypto currency worth 1.7mil.... You should expect a minimum bid.
Snowden committed a crime to expose a MUCH GREATER crime. He's a hero, and a patriot. He loves the country, not the government, no the administration. He sacrificed for you, and for me. He should get a FAIR trial, by a jury of his peers, and all the evidence should be exposed to public scrutiny.
I'm a liberal. I'd vote for Colin Powel. He's accomplished, intelligent, and seems to have common sense in spades. He also seems to actually just say what he thinks instead of trying to be "presidential". He'd never make it through a Republican primary though... :D
I'll second that. We can all acknowledge that O's peace price was a "Not Bush" prize. As much as I am pissed at Obama for being weak and not actually fighting for any of the changes to the system that he spoke of on the campaign trail...... He at least didn't enter a war in Afghanistan because a group in that country pissed us off (Think about that for a second. A radical Canadian group blows up a pipeline. We do NOT invade Canada!) or invade Iraq based on shitty intelligence AND for no good reason at all (Note, ISIS just took Fallujah. We are leaving that country more fucked than when we came in. Saddam was a bastard, but at least he was stable-ish and the Taliban were NOT in Iraq.).
Yes, Obama is just as bit a corporatist as Bush.
You forgot 5.) Read the books. :D
I don't have cable. No TV for me. And yes, I am quite smug about it.... But I love GoT. I watch it on google play. No, they don't have the latest season. That's ok, since I read the books, I know what happens, and I can wait. I'm patient. Most people just torrent it, and I wish HBO would stop being assholes and put season 4 on google play... right now it's easier to pirate than to watch legally for me. Grumble...
I'm in Portland, and my small business is growing. There has been no red tape that I've noticed. There has been a few small fees for registering, some basic common sense rules... What in specific are you complaining about? I realize that my small business is mostly under the radar, and perhaps you're talking about a mid sized or large business.... But this is the city where everyone's uncle starts a food cart. It's not hard to start a business here.
Please provide specifics.
I deeply suspect you're trolling....
I'm in Portland, and shopping for FTTH. Who's your provider? What neighborhood are you in?
Immigration reform will never happen because our society is addicted to near slave labor. You will never have reform, because powerful people will lobby against it. You'll never have truly closed borders either, for the same reason.
I happen to agree with you. Going after the employers would fix it. It'll never happen though.
A side effect of all this would either be that we'd outsource all of our farm jobs to mexico for good, or you'd be paying double for your strawberries and we'd actually have to pay a decent wage for a day of honest labor. You tell me which is more likely to happen. :D