Its hard to switch to a website? Seriously? You can get to their website and do the same thing the app was going to do. The Internet means you can be your own publisher.
The funny part is that you somehow think this is different that pretty much everything else in your life. PCs and the openness of the Internet are not really the norm.
It always amazes me how excited people get when it comes to being 'open' in computers, yet the rest of their lives is totally goverened and 'censored' by others.
I wish they'd turn off the censorship for Long John Silvers here, I could use some nasty chicken and fish.
When you deny access due to content arbitrarily, and without using any reasonable standard
As has been pointed out elsewhere, adding rules doesn't change the fact that its censorship. Just because you've defined how you are going to censor something, thus making it not arbitrary, it does not instantly become not censorship.
The problem is use of the word censorship.
Technically speaking, pretty much every conscious decision made by a living creature is a form of censorship. Thats just the way it works, everyone does it constantly, all the time, even too themselves. If you thing censorship is evil, you're just an ignorant twit out to get your angsty bitching heard.
The problem, as it turns out is the Internet itself... or rather, what the Internet has done to society in too short of a period of time.
Up until very recently, people rarely communicated with people of vastly different cultures. Even over the phone, communications were/are primarly for contact with known people with shared interests. In the business world its more likely to be dealing with someone geographically distant but its still relatively rare. The majority of the population of the planet just talked to people very local to them. People that almost always shared VERY identical beliefs, even if they didn't realize how closely related there were.
Now, this very comment will be read by people in at least 20 nations I'm sure, probably many more. Thousands, if not 10s of thousands of people may read it. Most of these people will come from a culture very close to mine (I'm (probably obvious) American and most slashdotters are as well. But a large number of people will be from cultures that have values far different than mine. They may entirely disagree with everything I say, and in America, that means several things:
They don't have to listen to me if they don't want to because: If its their home/property, they can make me leave. If its a public place, there are local laws governing what is acceptable for me to do, if I go outside those lines, I can be removed, if I don't, the person can leave. If its my home, they can leave.
One thing that is not a right is for you to force anyone else to listen to you, agree with you, or welcome you into their home or onto their property so you can practice your free speech.
Because the Internet has suddenly brought people from all over the world together with deeply different views, many of which directly disagree with each other. The result is that random person A on the Internet thinks his/her way is the only way, everyone they know agrees with them! Person B disagrees. Person B happens to own the website where person A is posting these comments. This is person B's place of business essentially.
Now, I believe (feel free to disagree) that person B has every right to throw you out. Its their place. No one is entitled to be there. Not you. Not me. No one except the owner.
If you don't like it, don't go there. Go some place you like. Regardless of how much you tell someone its wrong, they aren't going to change just because you said they were wrong. Take your toys and go play with people like you. I promise you there are plenty of people just like you on the Internet, you just have to find them.
Apple has the right to run its business however it sees fit as long as it doesn't force you do do anything.
Now before anyone starts screaming about how Apple forces you to do things, I will require you to show me an instance of where someone who was physically harmed by Apple for not buying an Apple product. Apple forces you to do nothing. You do what Apple wants because you want to use their product more than you are bothered by their games... or you don't use their product for that reason (or any other number of reasons).
Even slashdot is censored, through moderation, otherwise all we'd see is GNAA and stinger links with a good sprinklin
Its one thing to point out religious ignorance, but I suggest you learn a little more yourself about the timeline before doing so. Your arguments will make more sense if you stop trying to be witty and just stick to facts. The way your statement is now, the first have makes you look ignorant while the second half is very logical.
If you would have left out your sad attempt at being witty you'd deserve your +5 insightful. Personally, I give you a +2 inciteful for it as it stands as you spent as much effort being insulting as you did making a point.
Now that x86 is stuck in between 32 and 64bit HELL, Apple is poised to move to a new platform architecture that isn't limited by 30+ years of legacy holding it back.
This is simply due to lazyness.
Mac OS X is capable of running 64 bit apps under a 32 bit kernel. I never have any clue which mode apps are running in. At one point I switched my system to force 32 bit support only... never noticed. Back to 64 and nothing changes.
The only time I realize that I'm somewhere other than 64 bit is if an app reports back memory or I use ActivityMonitor which states it specifically.
32-64 bit hell only seems to exist for shitty OSes.
There are plenty of flash... things that call themselves apps, and they are all steaming piles of... well you get the point.
My point is that no CS5 developer would maintain any code base because if you put Santa Clause, the Easter Bunny, a Good politician and a flash 'developer' in a room you'd have... an empty room. Stop playing with imaginary friends.
And more importantly, stop calling people who play with flash 'developers'. Artists, sure.
Sure. Whats the worse that can happen? We'll get less law suits?
Lets be realistic. Who has the better lawyers determines the winners in almost every case. That means unless you have a high level lawyer on your side (due to your own cash flow or ambulance chasing) you're unlikely to do well. In most cases, both sides lose.
So my options are: A) Lots of retarded cases, to which if I ever have to participate, my odds are bad regardless of the actual facts and matters at hand B) Not got to court because some clerk is having a bad day and doesn't want to deal with my paper work.
Shurg, B probably is the better way to go. It'd probably piss me off when it happened, but in the long run I'd probably lose less since the lawyers wouldn't' be involved.
Insightful? No, Insightful would be pointing out that there are far better more suitable 'general purposes computing devices' than trying to turn devices like game consoles and iPads into them.
The reason you install Linux on them is because you read about someone else on the Internet who did it or made an installer to do it so now you want to so you can pretend you are doing something special.
I've yet to actually meet anyone who has installed Linux on a console. I've yet to be given a reason why its a good idea. I've heard plenty of retarded and outright wrong reasons that involve clustering and using the GPUs in consoles but in the end it always turns out to be a shitty deal and you should have just bought proper hardware for what you spend.
What you, and geeks don't get is not that people don't look at this things as general computing devices... they don't think of them as computers at all.
Your laptop is a computer. Your desktop is a computer. Your netbook is a computer. An iPad is an iPad, and while it has a display and takes input, its not a computer. Neither is a game pad. Yes, of course, technically these are just computers, but they aren't general purpose computers no matter how hard you try to shoe horn them into such things.
They don't become general computing devices just because you want them too. Your complete lack of understanding of product design means you simply don't realize that devices really do need to have a purpose before they are sold rather than being sold so they can create a purpose for themselves.
If someone makes a good freeware app thats truely worthy of being ported, someone will offer to publish to the store for them. Truth of the matter is most people don't give a shit if they don't get some random freeware program because there is an alternative that may cost $2 instead of being free, but its probably better. (if it wasn't, someone would have bothered to port the free equivalent!)
So yes, for many people there is no problem living in that world.
It costs us more money to wade through all the various problems with shitty software than it does to just pay a little for some software knowing that most developers are going to maintain it in order to maintain their revenue stream.
Freeware is great, but really, anything you can find as 'freeware' probably has a better equivalent for very little cost.
I think you have a serious lack of understanding of how the government actually works.
The government can in fact criminalize or decriminalize anything it wants. I'm not sure what you are refering to happening 300 years ago but every government in the world still has the ability to change laws. Thats part of its job.
It is the peoples job (that would be society) to tell the government how we want the laws set. If we don't like them, its our job to get the government to change them.
Society determines what those 'unalienable rights' are, and the government criminalizes or decriminalizes things to fit those 'unalienable rights'.
The government doesn't exist without societies support.
Yes, they got caught with their hand in the cookie jar and took it out.
Contrary to popular and modern belief, you do not praise them for taking their hand out of the cookie jar after you catch them.
They still did wrong. They didn't do good. They are not your friend or buddy. They only took it down because that was after being caught it wasn't going to be profitable long term for them.
Do not apologize unless you like being raped as long as they rapist apologizes afterwords.
They clearly didn't understand the 'rewards marketing' industry they chose to rely on enough to find a competent partner (if they existed), they didn't put much time or effort into the solution... based on a complete read of the forums it looks very slapped together (an assumption on my part, not having seen it first hand)
Your assumption is wrong.
The implementation used is rather 'standard' for these practices and their are others being sued for this exact problem. I can't remember right off the top of my head who it is or I'd link to it.
This is hardly the first time this has happened so ignorance isn't exactly a valid excuse at this point. Both Turbine and SuperRewards were in on the implementation and I assure you SuperRewards was fully aware of what was going on and its written in some legal document somewhere that Turbine signed off on.
Did these idiot devs not even consider that Firefox does URL prefetching and they are, due to the prefetching of their sell-my-information-to-the-devil-wall page, selling information of people who didn't even view the wall but simply viewed a page that links to their offer wall?
I assure you they thought about it, and they thought about the fact that it increases their profit drastically. Its not even a question, this was intentional.
Its obvious they are being scammy, but... your web browser is taking actions without you telling it to. That kinda makes you the dumbass for having a browser that does things without asking and then bitching about the consequences.
Think of NULL as more of a symbol than a word. It represents an idea that goes beyond the simple meaning of the word null when used in programing contexts.
By capitalizing it, it is made very clear to any programmer that the discussion involves programming when the word NULL is being used and helps set the context for the conversation.
It helps scanning documents as well to find what you are looking for without reading the whole thing.
There are many special properties of NULL that distinguish it from the word itself, as such, it is distinguished from the word itself by always being presented in full caps when used in this context.
Since its written for machines that are likely in physically secure facilities which are stictly controlled, its more likely that they didn't inlcude firewire and esata because the machines simply don't have the hardware. You aren't likely to be making physical changes to the hardware without a whole heap of people watching you do it.
iSCSI is a network protocol used to emulate a hardware interface, probably easier to just use FTP, but its a safe bet the network is already controlled anyway.
Your post indicates you're looking at this from the perspective of a desktop support monkey, not as the admin of a secured machine in a secured facility.
Which is funny, because theres this whole API built around streaming video that I use on a daily basis that lets me play h.264 video in my applications.
Anyone who believes that particular statement is... to put it lightly, a total and complete fucking moron.
Adobe CAN do it, they just don't. Adobe COULD make their apps like Photoshop work on a case sensitive filesystem, but they still don't. 10 years later and they still havent' fixed case sensitivity issues.
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Yep. Its their house.
We can of course, leave and never come back if we want.
Its hard to switch to a website? Seriously? You can get to their website and do the same thing the app was going to do. The Internet means you can be your own publisher.
The funny part is that you somehow think this is different that pretty much everything else in your life. PCs and the openness of the Internet are not really the norm.
It always amazes me how excited people get when it comes to being 'open' in computers, yet the rest of their lives is totally goverened and 'censored' by others.
I wish they'd turn off the censorship for Long John Silvers here, I could use some nasty chicken and fish.
Wow, if you think Apple is anything like what the book was describing you and I took seriously different meanings from it.
As has been pointed out elsewhere, adding rules doesn't change the fact that its censorship. Just because you've defined how you are going to censor something, thus making it not arbitrary, it does not instantly become not censorship.
The problem is use of the word censorship.
Technically speaking, pretty much every conscious decision made by a living creature is a form of censorship. Thats just the way it works, everyone does it constantly, all the time, even too themselves. If you thing censorship is evil, you're just an ignorant twit out to get your angsty bitching heard.
The problem, as it turns out is the Internet itself ... or rather, what the Internet has done to society in too short of a period of time.
Up until very recently, people rarely communicated with people of vastly different cultures. Even over the phone, communications were/are primarly for contact with known people with shared interests. In the business world its more likely to be dealing with someone geographically distant but its still relatively rare. The majority of the population of the planet just talked to people very local to them. People that almost always shared VERY identical beliefs, even if they didn't realize how closely related there were.
Now, this very comment will be read by people in at least 20 nations I'm sure, probably many more. Thousands, if not 10s of thousands of people may read it. Most of these people will come from a culture very close to mine (I'm (probably obvious) American and most slashdotters are as well. But a large number of people will be from cultures that have values far different than mine. They may entirely disagree with everything I say, and in America, that means several things:
They don't have to listen to me if they don't want to because:
If its their home/property, they can make me leave.
If its a public place, there are local laws governing what is acceptable for me to do, if I go outside those lines, I can be removed, if I don't, the person can leave.
If its my home, they can leave.
One thing that is not a right is for you to force anyone else to listen to you, agree with you, or welcome you into their home or onto their property so you can practice your free speech.
Because the Internet has suddenly brought people from all over the world together with deeply different views, many of which directly disagree with each other. The result is that random person A on the Internet thinks his/her way is the only way, everyone they know agrees with them! Person B disagrees. Person B happens to own the website where person A is posting these comments. This is person B's place of business essentially.
Now, I believe (feel free to disagree) that person B has every right to throw you out. Its their place. No one is entitled to be there. Not you. Not me. No one except the owner.
If you don't like it, don't go there. Go some place you like. Regardless of how much you tell someone its wrong, they aren't going to change just because you said they were wrong. Take your toys and go play with people like you. I promise you there are plenty of people just like you on the Internet, you just have to find them.
Apple has the right to run its business however it sees fit as long as it doesn't force you do do anything.
Now before anyone starts screaming about how Apple forces you to do things, I will require you to show me an instance of where someone who was physically harmed by Apple for not buying an Apple product. Apple forces you to do nothing. You do what Apple wants because you want to use their product more than you are bothered by their games ... or you don't use their product for that reason (or any other number of reasons).
Even slashdot is censored, through moderation, otherwise all we'd see is GNAA and stinger links with a good sprinklin
Its one thing to point out religious ignorance, but I suggest you learn a little more yourself about the timeline before doing so. Your arguments will make more sense if you stop trying to be witty and just stick to facts. The way your statement is now, the first have makes you look ignorant while the second half is very logical.
If you would have left out your sad attempt at being witty you'd deserve your +5 insightful. Personally, I give you a +2 inciteful for it as it stands as you spent as much effort being insulting as you did making a point.
I always thought Wookies had detachable penii, and called them Ewoks
I'm failing to see any sort of logical reason why you think the CLR runs faster than compiled code? Citation needed.
ASM is valid in Obj-C, its supported through language extensions (which is really all ObjC is anyway).
I have in fact 'dropped in' several lines of ASM to a couple iPhone apps without any problems from right inside XCode.
I really don't see this being the issue you think it is.
Let me give you a hint.
Developers don't use CS5 to create 'apps'
There is no such thing as a 'flash app'
There are plenty of flash ... things that call themselves apps, and they are all steaming piles of ... well you get the point.
My point is that no CS5 developer would maintain any code base because if you put Santa Clause, the Easter Bunny, a Good politician and a flash 'developer' in a room you'd have ... an empty room. Stop playing with imaginary friends.
And more importantly, stop calling people who play with flash 'developers'. Artists, sure.
Yes, but Windows did pre-emptive multitasking first!
Sure. Whats the worse that can happen? We'll get less law suits?
Lets be realistic. Who has the better lawyers determines the winners in almost every case. That means unless you have a high level lawyer on your side (due to your own cash flow or ambulance chasing) you're unlikely to do well. In most cases, both sides lose.
So my options are:
A) Lots of retarded cases, to which if I ever have to participate, my odds are bad regardless of the actual facts and matters at hand
B) Not got to court because some clerk is having a bad day and doesn't want to deal with my paper work.
Shurg, B probably is the better way to go. It'd probably piss me off when it happened, but in the long run I'd probably lose less since the lawyers wouldn't' be involved.
Focus my friend focus.
100 watt bulb isn't likely to blind you. Let me shine a narrow beam 100 watt laser at you, please ...
No? Really? You think they might be bullshitting?
Insightful? No, Insightful would be pointing out that there are far better more suitable 'general purposes computing devices' than trying to turn devices like game consoles and iPads into them.
The reason you install Linux on them is because you read about someone else on the Internet who did it or made an installer to do it so now you want to so you can pretend you are doing something special.
I've yet to actually meet anyone who has installed Linux on a console. I've yet to be given a reason why its a good idea. I've heard plenty of retarded and outright wrong reasons that involve clustering and using the GPUs in consoles but in the end it always turns out to be a shitty deal and you should have just bought proper hardware for what you spend.
What you, and geeks don't get is not that people don't look at this things as general computing devices ... they don't think of them as computers at all.
Your laptop is a computer. Your desktop is a computer. Your netbook is a computer. An iPad is an iPad, and while it has a display and takes input, its not a computer. Neither is a game pad. Yes, of course, technically these are just computers, but they aren't general purpose computers no matter how hard you try to shoe horn them into such things.
They don't become general computing devices just because you want them too. Your complete lack of understanding of product design means you simply don't realize that devices really do need to have a purpose before they are sold rather than being sold so they can create a purpose for themselves.
Yes.
I have no problem keeping the kruft out that way.
If someone makes a good freeware app thats truely worthy of being ported, someone will offer to publish to the store for them. Truth of the matter is most people don't give a shit if they don't get some random freeware program because there is an alternative that may cost $2 instead of being free, but its probably better. (if it wasn't, someone would have bothered to port the free equivalent!)
So yes, for many people there is no problem living in that world.
It costs us more money to wade through all the various problems with shitty software than it does to just pay a little for some software knowing that most developers are going to maintain it in order to maintain their revenue stream.
Freeware is great, but really, anything you can find as 'freeware' probably has a better equivalent for very little cost.
I think you have a serious lack of understanding of how the government actually works.
The government can in fact criminalize or decriminalize anything it wants. I'm not sure what you are refering to happening 300 years ago but every government in the world still has the ability to change laws. Thats part of its job.
It is the peoples job (that would be society) to tell the government how we want the laws set. If we don't like them, its our job to get the government to change them.
Society determines what those 'unalienable rights' are, and the government criminalizes or decriminalizes things to fit those 'unalienable rights'.
The government doesn't exist without societies support.
Yes, they got caught with their hand in the cookie jar and took it out.
Contrary to popular and modern belief, you do not praise them for taking their hand out of the cookie jar after you catch them.
They still did wrong. They didn't do good. They are not your friend or buddy. They only took it down because that was after being caught it wasn't going to be profitable long term for them.
Do not apologize unless you like being raped as long as they rapist apologizes afterwords.
Your assumption is wrong.
The implementation used is rather 'standard' for these practices and their are others being sued for this exact problem. I can't remember right off the top of my head who it is or I'd link to it.
This is hardly the first time this has happened so ignorance isn't exactly a valid excuse at this point. Both Turbine and SuperRewards were in on the implementation and I assure you SuperRewards was fully aware of what was going on and its written in some legal document somewhere that Turbine signed off on.
I assure you they thought about it, and they thought about the fact that it increases their profit drastically. Its not even a question, this was intentional.
Its obvious they are being scammy, but ... your web browser is taking actions without you telling it to. That kinda makes you the dumbass for having a browser that does things without asking and then bitching about the consequences.
Think of NULL as more of a symbol than a word. It represents an idea that goes beyond the simple meaning of the word null when used in programing contexts.
By capitalizing it, it is made very clear to any programmer that the discussion involves programming when the word NULL is being used and helps set the context for the conversation.
It helps scanning documents as well to find what you are looking for without reading the whole thing.
There are many special properties of NULL that distinguish it from the word itself, as such, it is distinguished from the word itself by always being presented in full caps when used in this context.
Since its written for machines that are likely in physically secure facilities which are stictly controlled, its more likely that they didn't inlcude firewire and esata because the machines simply don't have the hardware. You aren't likely to be making physical changes to the hardware without a whole heap of people watching you do it.
iSCSI is a network protocol used to emulate a hardware interface, probably easier to just use FTP, but its a safe bet the network is already controlled anyway.
Your post indicates you're looking at this from the perspective of a desktop support monkey, not as the admin of a secured machine in a secured facility.
Which is funny, because theres this whole API built around streaming video that I use on a daily basis that lets me play h.264 video in my applications.
Anyone who believes that particular statement is ... to put it lightly, a total and complete fucking moron.
Adobe CAN do it, they just don't. Adobe COULD make their apps like Photoshop work on a case sensitive filesystem, but they still don't. 10 years later and they still havent' fixed case sensitivity issues.
Perhaps you should learn what 'monopoly' actually means.
Apple is not a monopoly in any field by any sane sense of the word.