No, it doesn't work that way, thats a typical misunderstanding of the way it works because you're confusing observations from your perspective with reality.
The dot isn't moving at all, and you wouldn't actually have a dot painted on the surface of the moon. From your perspective on Earth it may appear that way, but appearances are often deceiving.
What you end up with is something that would resemble a dimmer (than the dot would be if stationary) line or blur on the surface of the moon, spread out over vast distances, that would appear to the observer on the Earth as though it was moving faster than it actually is. When the reflection of the light from the laser returned to your eye, the line would appear as a dot again, all due to perspective of the viewer.
What does Open source have to do with patents? Nothing.
You seem to be confusing prior art with open source, which they have no real relation to each other. It doesn't matter if Hadoop did it and told everyone about it. What matters is who come up with the idea first, they don't even have to implement it!
As for stupid, well you might want to take a look in the mirror for several reasons. A) You don't know what you're talking about. B) I'm willing to bet pretty much everyone you called 'stupid' makes more money and has a much more comfortable lifestyle than you do, mostly due to A.
It works on a large scale with todays available processing setups, but its far from 'efficient' in any sense of the term I consider.
Pyramids were built with (so the theory goes) millions of laborers because thats the only way they could handle such a large scale project. Map reduce is the same thing. On that scale, with todays technology, thats the way we do it.
It works, today, so we use they method, but thats where it ends.
Would you build the pyramids today with a million laborers? No, you'd bring in some heavy equipment and a tiny (relative to the original) team and they'd do it in a couple years or less for FAR FAR less money (even slaves cost money since they don't tend to live long if you never feed or water them.)
If by work you mean makes it easy for people to get exploited for no good reason other than 'to make a point (i.e. get some publicity)' then sure it works, as far as protecting people, no it doesn't.
Instead of the potential that a few people may have found the exploit and may be exploiting it, you instead have lots of people most certainly do know about it, including the ones who are most certainly going to take advantage of it. Whats better is that the likely hood of these devices EVER being updated by the majority of their users is as close to less than 0 as you can possibly get. No nag screens or auto-updates for this one, no one outside the geek community is going to even know about it.
It isnt' counter intuitive, its being an attention grabbing douche bag using the name of security as an excuse to gather publicity.
Try to cover it in roses all day long and in the end this behavior will STILL BE BULLSHIT. Get a clue.
Yes, because it took me longer to read and respond to your post than it took me to make Firefox part of our GPO install policies on our network. The only time you're going to really care about 'learning a new installer' is if you work somewhere that has dedicated people constantly adding installation options to GPO otherwise you aren't going to remember the MSI 'standard' options either. The additional 3 minutes you spend 'learning' the new installer isn't going to be noticeable to anyone at his level.
He doesn't have to know shit about the installer other than 'it has these command line options available to use'. As far as the GPO editor GUI is concerned (which I'm going to assume he's using since he clearly doesn't know much about GPO installation options) it works the exact same.
I deal with MSI on both sides, from a network management perspective and dealing with all of its problems as well as a developer perspective. The only good side to it is that there are a bunch of Wizards from MS and MacroVision (installshield) to make installers. Other than that, it has no real advantage over anything and a LOT of problems.
Had you read my post you'd see the first line made a factual statement about an MSI issue. Do you know what baseless means or did you just not read the first line?
I'm so sick of this argument. I hate MS as much as the next guy, but there were no guns to heads. There were alternatives, just nothing better according to the guys who decided to go along with the bundling.
They created a superior product (not by your definition, but by those who decided what goes on the PC). They did so by bundling and discounts and a lot of other things that were taking advantage of their market position, but thats just the way the world works and always will.
Once you've been around technology long enough you notice and realize that 'the best' technology is never the one that wins because there is a hell of a lot more to somethings value and usefulness than its technical superiority by your definition (whatever that may be) or mine for that matter.
Stop making excuses and do something to change the situation, and no, posting your bitches on slashdot doesn't actually count as doing something since you aren't doing anything but talking to a crowd of people who mostly agree with you already and account for an absolutely trivial part of the market place, even when you include their 'influence on others'.
Then you get to the issue where a retail copy of Windows for use in Parallels Desktop is no cheaper than a Wii-size Acer Aspire Revo PC with preinstalled Windows for use in KVM Switch.
Holy crap, I totally didn't think of that. I use XP (which I own) and Win7 (via an MSDN subscription for work) but that doesn't help for my GF, who legally can't use the MSDN copy. I've been wanting an excuse to get one of those Acers from walmart, now I have one! She can have Win7 in parallels and I can have the hardware to screw with without caring if it gets destroyed.
Its funny how such a simple idea can totally escape me at times, especially since I was just in Walmart 2 days ago noticing those little things on sale loaded with Win7 for $230. I can use the hardware in my boat! Freaking awesome.
Those aren't replicating an already designed and published product. They are, for the most part, a chinese knock off copy of the real thing that outside of the Geek world, very very few people would use given the choice.
Yes, you may have your family members using Linux and Open Office, they may even tell you that they like it. Friends and family often lie to make loved ones feel better, consider it.
I've yet to see a data center that was more Linux than Windows. I have machines in the same data center as Redhat, so I'm pretty sure its a Linux friendly data center, there are well over twice as many cages for Windows machines than Linux.
Second, just because there are a few devices that DO run Linux, doesn't mean it dominates, not by any sane definition of the word. Perhaps you should get a clue about the embedded world. QNX and VxWorks kind have Linux utterly beaten down.
Stop thinking that slashdot is a good representation of the rest of the world, slashdot users haven't been connected to the real world since their umbilical cords were cut.
If WINE was done right (in my ignorant of its architecture opinion) then it wouldn't support 'X', you'd just use drivers for that, in which case, ReactOS just needs drivers, which... continuing along those lines, once the compatibility with Windows reaches the right point, you can just use normal Windows drivers instead of an X driver.
Take your exact statement, replace America with whoever the powerful country/countries were at the time, and the statement is true since the dawn of civilization.
Its cute that you think its unique. I suggest you take a high school history class or pick up a book and learn a little before you pretend that this is unique to America.
Why these trade rules aren't being used to enforce environmental agreements and not IP ones is somewhat beyond me.
Because other than a few attention whores who will do whatever they can to get people to look at them, no one actually gives a fuck about the environment. Kind of like yourself.
You might think you know their views, but thats just an example of ignorance. They are politicians, their only view is of money and power, and their 'views' will be whatever it takes to get the most money and power possible. They change every second of every day.
You're here to preach about it and pretend YOU KNOW who you voted for when in reality your just as ignorant as the people who go to vote and just mark the single checkbox for the donkey or the elephant.
You're just as ignorant as the people you're trying to call ignorant.
So heres an idea, give up everything that you have in your life that you have because of a direct result of doing this to other countries, then get back to me.
I much rather talk to someone on their high horse AFTER the legs have been cut off.
Or... we can do what we used to do... grow it in the states.
Just because we import something doesn't mean we HAVE to. Its often just far cheaper to import it from some struggling nation than to do it ourselves.
Pretty much every modern country got that way because it lives off the backs of those 3rd world countries. It doesn't have to be that way, but if you want to enjoy the same standard of living as you've been doing in the past than this is the way its going to be.
And other than idiots like yourself who think theres something wrong with it, what exactly is the problem going to be with this happening?
Of course, there is a lot of land in America that can be used for producing sugar, so we could also just grow our own cane and beats and make our own sugar if we want, to complement the HFCS usage just like now.
We stopped doing it because its far cheaper to let some little kid in the middle of BFE Costa Rica grow cane and ship it here than it is to pay some jackass ridiculous pay and benefits and meet all the requirements to do it legally in America.
Reality check: We don't need Costa Rica to get our sugar, but if you want it cheap than doing it in America with its stuck up over paid work force who thinks that actually requiring you to work while getting paid is wrong just isn't going to work out like you think it is.
What about when a company in country A spends 5 or 6 billion dollars developing something, then country B ignores the investment and costs involved and just lets anyone who wants to copy it with no restriction?
What do you think happens when next time around the company says 'fuck it, the rest of the world will just copy what we did and we'll never make back what we put into developing it' and then they just stop making new things. Now everyone suffers, because of 'free trade' as you put it.
Contrary the the utterly ignorant opinion most of slashdot has, IP protection has its place and its usefulness when done within reason.
If you want to get pissed off, then be pissed off at the drug companies who use federal grant money or research done at Universities to patent things and make a fortune off of them.
IP theft is still theft. Are you okay with pirates (the kind with ships and guns) too? You'd be okay with a supply ship carrying your things across the ocean getting 'free traded' (literally) right into someone elses hands?
No, its been that way since the dawn of recorded time. You know why? Because thats the way it works, the big guy sets the rules. This is nothing new. This is nothing unique to America. It will continue long after America is no longer of any importance at all.
Just figuring this out now... did you bother to go to your high school history class?
Because much like pirating software or other content, IT REALLY DOESN'T FUCKING HURT ANYONE, regardless of how much you whine and bitch about it.
And no, the girl that killed herself over a myspace or facebook page didn't do it because of online activities, she did it because she was mentally unstable and unable to survive in the real world. Should would have done it based on something else the next day if it hadn't been for the website being there.
You really do need to learn what 'liberal' and 'conservatives' think before you start making such retarded statements about such a generic political label. The only statement you've made is that you are just some douche bag who listens to the news and parrots 'liberal' and 'conservative' when referring to your team or the other team. Every time I hear someone use these words my mind instantly knows you're version of politics is about the same as my version of NFL Football.
Please get a fucking clue and stop being such a uneducated, ignorant moron that you use those words like they actually have any sort of meaning beyond which team your rooting for.
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Uhm, thats funny, it would seem that every person on the planet with a basic understanding of electricity is wrong then.
Electrical current is the movement of electrons between atoms, it most certainly involves movement of electrons.
No, it doesn't work that way, thats a typical misunderstanding of the way it works because you're confusing observations from your perspective with reality.
The dot isn't moving at all, and you wouldn't actually have a dot painted on the surface of the moon. From your perspective on Earth it may appear that way, but appearances are often deceiving.
What you end up with is something that would resemble a dimmer (than the dot would be if stationary) line or blur on the surface of the moon, spread out over vast distances, that would appear to the observer on the Earth as though it was moving faster than it actually is. When the reflection of the light from the laser returned to your eye, the line would appear as a dot again, all due to perspective of the viewer.
What does Open source have to do with patents? Nothing.
You seem to be confusing prior art with open source, which they have no real relation to each other. It doesn't matter if Hadoop did it and told everyone about it. What matters is who come up with the idea first, they don't even have to implement it!
As for stupid, well you might want to take a look in the mirror for several reasons. A) You don't know what you're talking about. B) I'm willing to bet pretty much everyone you called 'stupid' makes more money and has a much more comfortable lifestyle than you do, mostly due to A.
It works on a large scale with todays available processing setups, but its far from 'efficient' in any sense of the term I consider.
Pyramids were built with (so the theory goes) millions of laborers because thats the only way they could handle such a large scale project. Map reduce is the same thing. On that scale, with todays technology, thats the way we do it.
It works, today, so we use they method, but thats where it ends.
Would you build the pyramids today with a million laborers? No, you'd bring in some heavy equipment and a tiny (relative to the original) team and they'd do it in a couple years or less for FAR FAR less money (even slaves cost money since they don't tend to live long if you never feed or water them.)
If by work you mean makes it easy for people to get exploited for no good reason other than 'to make a point (i.e. get some publicity)' then sure it works, as far as protecting people, no it doesn't.
Instead of the potential that a few people may have found the exploit and may be exploiting it, you instead have lots of people most certainly do know about it, including the ones who are most certainly going to take advantage of it. Whats better is that the likely hood of these devices EVER being updated by the majority of their users is as close to less than 0 as you can possibly get. No nag screens or auto-updates for this one, no one outside the geek community is going to even know about it.
It isnt' counter intuitive, its being an attention grabbing douche bag using the name of security as an excuse to gather publicity.
Try to cover it in roses all day long and in the end this behavior will STILL BE BULLSHIT. Get a clue.
Yes, because it took me longer to read and respond to your post than it took me to make Firefox part of our GPO install policies on our network. The only time you're going to really care about 'learning a new installer' is if you work somewhere that has dedicated people constantly adding installation options to GPO otherwise you aren't going to remember the MSI 'standard' options either. The additional 3 minutes you spend 'learning' the new installer isn't going to be noticeable to anyone at his level.
He doesn't have to know shit about the installer other than 'it has these command line options available to use'. As far as the GPO editor GUI is concerned (which I'm going to assume he's using since he clearly doesn't know much about GPO installation options) it works the exact same.
I deal with MSI on both sides, from a network management perspective and dealing with all of its problems as well as a developer perspective. The only good side to it is that there are a bunch of Wizards from MS and MacroVision (installshield) to make installers. Other than that, it has no real advantage over anything and a LOT of problems.
Had you read my post you'd see the first line made a factual statement about an MSI issue. Do you know what baseless means or did you just not read the first line?
I'm so sick of this argument. I hate MS as much as the next guy, but there were no guns to heads. There were alternatives, just nothing better according to the guys who decided to go along with the bundling.
They created a superior product (not by your definition, but by those who decided what goes on the PC). They did so by bundling and discounts and a lot of other things that were taking advantage of their market position, but thats just the way the world works and always will.
Once you've been around technology long enough you notice and realize that 'the best' technology is never the one that wins because there is a hell of a lot more to somethings value and usefulness than its technical superiority by your definition (whatever that may be) or mine for that matter.
Stop making excuses and do something to change the situation, and no, posting your bitches on slashdot doesn't actually count as doing something since you aren't doing anything but talking to a crowd of people who mostly agree with you already and account for an absolutely trivial part of the market place, even when you include their 'influence on others'.
Holy crap, I totally didn't think of that. I use XP (which I own) and Win7 (via an MSDN subscription for work) but that doesn't help for my GF, who legally can't use the MSDN copy. I've been wanting an excuse to get one of those Acers from walmart, now I have one! She can have Win7 in parallels and I can have the hardware to screw with without caring if it gets destroyed.
Its funny how such a simple idea can totally escape me at times, especially since I was just in Walmart 2 days ago noticing those little things on sale loaded with Win7 for $230. I can use the hardware in my boat! Freaking awesome.
Contrary to popular belief, Duke Nukem Forever was never going to finish.
Thats why its initials are DNF - Did Not Finish. Thats by design for anyone who's on the inside of the Joke.
There, you've now been enlightened from the inside.
Those aren't replicating an already designed and published product. They are, for the most part, a chinese knock off copy of the real thing that outside of the Geek world, very very few people would use given the choice.
Yes, you may have your family members using Linux and Open Office, they may even tell you that they like it. Friends and family often lie to make loved ones feel better, consider it.
You have a sick and twisted idea of 'perfectly good'
No it doesn't, sorry to burst your bubble.
I've yet to see a data center that was more Linux than Windows. I have machines in the same data center as Redhat, so I'm pretty sure its a Linux friendly data center, there are well over twice as many cages for Windows machines than Linux.
Second, just because there are a few devices that DO run Linux, doesn't mean it dominates, not by any sane definition of the word. Perhaps you should get a clue about the embedded world. QNX and VxWorks kind have Linux utterly beaten down.
Stop thinking that slashdot is a good representation of the rest of the world, slashdot users haven't been connected to the real world since their umbilical cords were cut.
Something gives me the distinct impression that you never actually used OS/2 during that time.
If WINE was done right (in my ignorant of its architecture opinion) then it wouldn't support 'X', you'd just use drivers for that, in which case, ReactOS just needs drivers, which ... continuing along those lines, once the compatibility with Windows reaches the right point, you can just use normal Windows drivers instead of an X driver.
So I see you've used Linux ...
Take your exact statement, replace America with whoever the powerful country/countries were at the time, and the statement is true since the dawn of civilization.
Its cute that you think its unique. I suggest you take a high school history class or pick up a book and learn a little before you pretend that this is unique to America.
Because other than a few attention whores who will do whatever they can to get people to look at them, no one actually gives a fuck about the environment. Kind of like yourself.
0 if you exclude the representatives themselves.
You might think you know their views, but thats just an example of ignorance. They are politicians, their only view is of money and power, and their 'views' will be whatever it takes to get the most money and power possible. They change every second of every day.
You're here to preach about it and pretend YOU KNOW who you voted for when in reality your just as ignorant as the people who go to vote and just mark the single checkbox for the donkey or the elephant.
You're just as ignorant as the people you're trying to call ignorant.
So heres an idea, give up everything that you have in your life that you have because of a direct result of doing this to other countries, then get back to me.
I much rather talk to someone on their high horse AFTER the legs have been cut off.
Or ... we can do what we used to do ... grow it in the states.
Just because we import something doesn't mean we HAVE to. Its often just far cheaper to import it from some struggling nation than to do it ourselves.
Pretty much every modern country got that way because it lives off the backs of those 3rd world countries. It doesn't have to be that way, but if you want to enjoy the same standard of living as you've been doing in the past than this is the way its going to be.
And other than idiots like yourself who think theres something wrong with it, what exactly is the problem going to be with this happening?
Of course, there is a lot of land in America that can be used for producing sugar, so we could also just grow our own cane and beats and make our own sugar if we want, to complement the HFCS usage just like now.
We stopped doing it because its far cheaper to let some little kid in the middle of BFE Costa Rica grow cane and ship it here than it is to pay some jackass ridiculous pay and benefits and meet all the requirements to do it legally in America.
Reality check: We don't need Costa Rica to get our sugar, but if you want it cheap than doing it in America with its stuck up over paid work force who thinks that actually requiring you to work while getting paid is wrong just isn't going to work out like you think it is.
What about when a company in country A spends 5 or 6 billion dollars developing something, then country B ignores the investment and costs involved and just lets anyone who wants to copy it with no restriction?
What do you think happens when next time around the company says 'fuck it, the rest of the world will just copy what we did and we'll never make back what we put into developing it' and then they just stop making new things. Now everyone suffers, because of 'free trade' as you put it.
Contrary the the utterly ignorant opinion most of slashdot has, IP protection has its place and its usefulness when done within reason.
If you want to get pissed off, then be pissed off at the drug companies who use federal grant money or research done at Universities to patent things and make a fortune off of them.
IP theft is still theft. Are you okay with pirates (the kind with ships and guns) too? You'd be okay with a supply ship carrying your things across the ocean getting 'free traded' (literally) right into someone elses hands?
No, its been that way since the dawn of recorded time. You know why? Because thats the way it works, the big guy sets the rules. This is nothing new. This is nothing unique to America. It will continue long after America is no longer of any importance at all.
Just figuring this out now ... did you bother to go to your high school history class?
Because much like pirating software or other content, IT REALLY DOESN'T FUCKING HURT ANYONE, regardless of how much you whine and bitch about it.
And no, the girl that killed herself over a myspace or facebook page didn't do it because of online activities, she did it because she was mentally unstable and unable to survive in the real world. Should would have done it based on something else the next day if it hadn't been for the website being there.
Get some perspective.
You really do need to learn what 'liberal' and 'conservatives' think before you start making such retarded statements about such a generic political label. The only statement you've made is that you are just some douche bag who listens to the news and parrots 'liberal' and 'conservative' when referring to your team or the other team. Every time I hear someone use these words my mind instantly knows you're version of politics is about the same as my version of NFL Football.
Please get a fucking clue and stop being such a uneducated, ignorant moron that you use those words like they actually have any sort of meaning beyond which team your rooting for.