Really? Show me the hardware that you can buy and get the Mac like experience with Linux.
Where I just turn it on, finish the initial setup, start playing dvds, making movies and burning them to DVDs, checking my mail on Google, Yahoo, my own imap servers, auto connecting to wifi as I roam around with my laptop, synchronizing my settings with my offsite backup (mobileme), playing The Sims 3, Civ4, and Rollercoaster Tycoon 3, sync my iPhone, ect ect ect.
You may be able to show me some hardware that is stable with some generic software, but it won't do what the Mac can do.
Linux needs to stop trying to copy everyone else and be itself. There are plenty of good reasons to run Linux. Trying to sell it as a Windows or OS X replacement is going to result in a failure.
Stop trying to compete on someone elses turf, do it on your own, where you actually ARE better.
'the goal' of 'free market' is to let anyone do what they want, and that is actually something that only people with power want as it allows them to ensure they remain the people with power.
What you refer to is not free market, its utopian market where everyone is good to each other and loves bunnies and kitty cats.
You must be young or an economist. Most people without high school diplomas know more about the economy than economists due. They do not live in reality, only in theory.
First, NT was around before 95. So 95 being public domain would require some version of NT to be public domain as well.
Second, If 95 was public domain, their would be no Linux or WINE. If 95 was public domain, Solaris, HP/UX, AIX, and all the other REAL Unixes would be public domain, pretty much removing any reason for Linux as it currently exists, to exist. Linux is and likely always will be copying and following others.
Not all GPL software falls into this catagory, but Linux most certainly does. Its just a copy of what someone else did, without the price. Nothing wrong with that, but in your theoretical world there would be no need for Linux.
Perhaps it has more to do with the question than the answer.
No one gives a shit that you can't see it happening any other way. I can't tell you how it would have happened differently, but I can tell you that things would have happened, and the end result would be different. You know... because things would have changed.
Your test is retarded. You can't change history and expect the results to be the same, change, by definition, is different than the original.
But on a different note, you go on thinking about how cool you are that people don't bother arguing with you over retarded political crap on the Internet. Maybe next year it'll be a special olympics event so you can talk to more people with your problem.
Perhaps the majority of your problem is that you feel you need to be part of 'the party'.
Why not believe what you believe and leave the party crap at the door. Vote for the individual that fills a specific position in the government best, regardless of what party they are in.
If everyone did that, your concern, wouldn't be an issue, and the government would be a far better place.
No it isn't. Its mostly developed by a bunch of hackers in their spare time.
A few companies contribute to larger well known projects in order to benefit themselves with (usually) closed source additions.
Very few companies have their entire business wrapped around GPL software. I say GPL because the only GNU software I can think of that people make money directly from is Linux. MySQL for instance uses the GPL license, but it not GNU software any more than it is Apache software.
Reality: The Free market effectively because it is composed of people who individually believe in one or more of the above, and the balance of all 3 of these and several others combine together to produce competition and innovation.
The ignorance is trying to define ONE free market, you tend to destroy the 'free' part with your definition since you confine it and remove the freedom to choose the best approach to the problem.
Thinking for yourself is hard, lets go shopping! -- Barbie
Well, he was partially right. Stallman is a bad guy. Of course you follow it up by saying basically that 'When Libertarians talk like Stallman I want socialists'
Really? Have you actually used an MS product? I've been using them and in IT for 20 years and never had data deleted, don't know anyone who has. I've seen a few apps crash and some work lost, but I've had that happen on every OS I've dealt with as well.
Either way, it most certainly would require some sort of interaction, but I'm guessing they haven't got that far in your grade school physics class yet, no action/reaction or cause and effect yet.
If you're going to troll you are going to have to do better than that, we shit trolls better than you out before breakfast here.
The system is designed intentionally to write data once and NEVER allow it to be modified, so it can not be corrupted or tainted after submitted into evidence. So BOTH sides of the case could know for sure that the data is the same from when it was checked into evidence till the end of time.
So yes, they can't do anything about it, and that is EXACTLY how they requested that it work in the first place.
When people get off on a crime because of a technicality, a legal oversight, then your laws are broken. In turn that comes down to voting for, or electing politicians who vote for bad laws.
The voters should be canned for continuing to vote in cheating politicians and voting for laws with loopholes like this.
Immoral? You must be a lawyer. Destroying the defense against a case of a guilty man is not immoral, letting him walk because a law designed to protect the innocent is.
Of course, throwing an innocent man in jail because someone overheard something that misleads others into thinking he's guilty is immoral too.
It can go both ways, but don't paint it as one cut and dried picture. You may think its okay to let someone walk on a technicality or lack of evidence in order to protect the innocent, I however think its immoral that guilty people get to walk for the very same reason.
If you listen to my tapped phone call and get hard real evidence that I'm guilty, you sir, are an idiot if you think thats immoral. Guilty is guilty. Doing it to an innocent would be bad.
You speak like a true criminal/lawyer. Go hang yourself and save someone else the time.
Replying twice to the same post, but something struck me:
but his point is that for an industry that's always trying to attract women
You are confused, you think that a bunch of geeks who are socially inept who would like to have more women in the office to hit on and learn how to hit on, want women in the field.
They don't want women in the field, they want women in the office, that they can talk to and socialize with, as they utterly fail to do so on their own.
They'd be just as happy with doctors, secretaries, or prison inmates if they were women and would talk to them.
Interestingly enough, you won't find either of those living in Taiwan where this is considering completely socially acceptable.
Your concepts, culture and 'tastes' do not apply to everyone, especially everyone living several thousand miles away from you.
Sounds more like you're repressed and don't know how to deal with the issue more than anything else, especially since you've already admitted in another post you will be happy to function as someones sex toy for a million dollars.
Professionalism has a time and place and it generally doesn't share those times and places with people trying to have a good time.
You don't have to be 'professional' all the time, especially when you are somewhere that your definition of professional doesn't match with everyone elses.
Anyone who says they wouldn't perform homosexual sex for a million dollars is either a lair, already has far more money than they need, or is just trying to make sure no one else finds out.
If you're offering, I'll do it for 750K Euros, or whatever the amount converts to in USD.
Funny, seems the women who attended the event thought it was pretty funny to watch the awkward guys on stage not knowing what to do with the women in their face.
Did you get that part? No? Didn't read anything more than the summary eh?
There were female developers there... having a good time... The thing is that the just weren't American women, which are so sexually repressed and frustrated with themselves that they can't appreciate any situation which involves a women using her assets to their advantage if it involves physical attributes.
Whats fucked up is that American women are their own worst enemy.
Do you see guys bitching about male strippers? No, well okay, but only out of jealously.
Men are 'objectified' in the same way constantly. We appreciate it, enjoy the praise, and are more than happy that someone else appreciates what we have. Women in most of the rest of the world feel THE SAME WAY.
Its only in America where women get pissed off because another woman is using her abilities. In America, you are only accepted by other women if you shoehorn yourself into doing something you aren't really that good at.
Okay, so thats false, most women in America don't give a damn about this either. Its just the few loud mouths that get attention and the media promoting it that are a problem. I personally don't think I've ever met a woman who truly had a problem with strippers. I honestly don't think I've met a woman who hasn't considered BEING a stripper, including women who are now doctors, lawyers, and a VP of a rather large marketing firm in the US.
Its okay that you don't understand it, if you had some women as friends it would help you out a lot.
A 'hack' is not always security related. A hack is generally a quick fix or dirty fix to make something work the way you want it to regardless of how it was designed, intended to work, or currently functions.
Hack generally applies to what happens during a security failure, but it is not exclusive to security.
I've done plenty of hacks in my career, both with computers and completely unrelated to computers, none of which have been related to breaking someone elses security constraints without permission.
So you are using us Department of Labor stats to talk about something that happened in Taiwan ? Talk about ignoring scoping issues.
This post isn't insightful, its misleading. You're applying American culture and statistics to a country on the other side of the planet. This sort of ignorance is why we, as Americans get referred to as completely uncultured twits. Please stop talking about how things are 'wrong' parts of the world you probably can't even find on a map without names printed on it.
Cry me a river. Everyone morally objects to something someone else does, get over it. No one was harmed. No one did anything against their will. There were no guns to heads.
Anyone who has a problem with this event is the exact kind of uncultured intolerant person that I personally have no need to work with, male OR female.
I'm not changing my ways to appease someone else because they 'dont like' some aspect of the culture of the field. If they want to be in IT they can adjust to the IT field. As they join the IT field will change based on the ratios of what people prefer.
Real women (just like real men) have no problem entering a hostile field without whining and bitching. What you are doing is attempting to change a field, to encourage more people to join it, but the people you are encouraging don't WANT to join it. You want to change the field to get what YOU want, not what women want.
Not EVERYTHING has to have a perfect balance based on sex or race. Differences between sex and race AND CULTURE will ALWAYS result in less than a perfect balance. Thats not a bad thing, thats reality and you need to check it out.
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Really? Show me the hardware that you can buy and get the Mac like experience with Linux.
Where I just turn it on, finish the initial setup, start playing dvds, making movies and burning them to DVDs, checking my mail on Google, Yahoo, my own imap servers, auto connecting to wifi as I roam around with my laptop, synchronizing my settings with my offsite backup (mobileme), playing The Sims 3, Civ4, and Rollercoaster Tycoon 3, sync my iPhone, ect ect ect.
You may be able to show me some hardware that is stable with some generic software, but it won't do what the Mac can do.
Linux needs to stop trying to copy everyone else and be itself. There are plenty of good reasons to run Linux. Trying to sell it as a Windows or OS X replacement is going to result in a failure.
Stop trying to compete on someone elses turf, do it on your own, where you actually ARE better.
'the goal' of 'free market' is to let anyone do what they want, and that is actually something that only people with power want as it allows them to ensure they remain the people with power.
What you refer to is not free market, its utopian market where everyone is good to each other and loves bunnies and kitty cats.
That will never exist.
By a lot longer you mean what? A year? In the span of over 10?
I'd hardly call that 'a lot longer', but it is a subjective statement.
You must be young or an economist. Most people without high school diplomas know more about the economy than economists due. They do not live in reality, only in theory.
Two problems with your statments.
First, NT was around before 95. So 95 being public domain would require some version of NT to be public domain as well.
Second, If 95 was public domain, their would be no Linux or WINE. If 95 was public domain, Solaris, HP/UX, AIX, and all the other REAL Unixes would be public domain, pretty much removing any reason for Linux as it currently exists, to exist. Linux is and likely always will be copying and following others.
Not all GPL software falls into this catagory, but Linux most certainly does. Its just a copy of what someone else did, without the price. Nothing wrong with that, but in your theoretical world there would be no need for Linux.
Perhaps it has more to do with the question than the answer.
No one gives a shit that you can't see it happening any other way. I can't tell you how it would have happened differently, but I can tell you that things would have happened, and the end result would be different. You know ... because things would have changed.
Your test is retarded. You can't change history and expect the results to be the same, change, by definition, is different than the original.
But on a different note, you go on thinking about how cool you are that people don't bother arguing with you over retarded political crap on the Internet. Maybe next year it'll be a special olympics event so you can talk to more people with your problem.
Perhaps the majority of your problem is that you feel you need to be part of 'the party'.
Why not believe what you believe and leave the party crap at the door. Vote for the individual that fills a specific position in the government best, regardless of what party they are in.
If everyone did that, your concern, wouldn't be an issue, and the government would be a far better place.
Most people do. However, the government uses my money and has no experts, they don't get to make choices in some cases.
No it isn't. Its mostly developed by a bunch of hackers in their spare time.
A few companies contribute to larger well known projects in order to benefit themselves with (usually) closed source additions.
Very few companies have their entire business wrapped around GPL software. I say GPL because the only GNU software I can think of that people make money directly from is Linux. MySQL for instance uses the GPL license, but it not GNU software any more than it is Apache software.
You forgot the last:
Reality: The Free market effectively because it is composed of people who individually believe in one or more of the above, and the balance of all 3 of these and several others combine together to produce competition and innovation.
The ignorance is trying to define ONE free market, you tend to destroy the 'free' part with your definition since you confine it and remove the freedom to choose the best approach to the problem.
Thinking for yourself is hard, lets go shopping! -- Barbie
Well, he was partially right. Stallman is a bad guy. Of course you follow it up by saying basically that 'When Libertarians talk like Stallman I want socialists'
So unless they run what you think of as freedom on there systems, they aren't worth listening to?
I can come up with a thousand reasons not to listen, but your reason is retarded and shows how truely ignorant you are.
Politics by morons.
Seriously? Why the fuck is there a front page story written by some guy I've never heard of, spewing his opinions about Libertarians?
Really? Have you actually used an MS product? I've been using them and in IT for 20 years and never had data deleted, don't know anyone who has. I've seen a few apps crash and some work lost, but I've had that happen on every OS I've dealt with as well.
Either way, it most certainly would require some sort of interaction, but I'm guessing they haven't got that far in your grade school physics class yet, no action/reaction or cause and effect yet.
If you're going to troll you are going to have to do better than that, we shit trolls better than you out before breakfast here.
That is indeed the actual point in this case.
The system is designed intentionally to write data once and NEVER allow it to be modified, so it can not be corrupted or tainted after submitted into evidence. So BOTH sides of the case could know for sure that the data is the same from when it was checked into evidence till the end of time.
So yes, they can't do anything about it, and that is EXACTLY how they requested that it work in the first place.
When people get off on a crime because of a technicality, a legal oversight, then your laws are broken. In turn that comes down to voting for, or electing politicians who vote for bad laws.
The voters should be canned for continuing to vote in cheating politicians and voting for laws with loopholes like this.
Immoral? You must be a lawyer. Destroying the defense against a case of a guilty man is not immoral, letting him walk because a law designed to protect the innocent is.
Of course, throwing an innocent man in jail because someone overheard something that misleads others into thinking he's guilty is immoral too.
It can go both ways, but don't paint it as one cut and dried picture. You may think its okay to let someone walk on a technicality or lack of evidence in order to protect the innocent, I however think its immoral that guilty people get to walk for the very same reason.
If you listen to my tapped phone call and get hard real evidence that I'm guilty, you sir, are an idiot if you think thats immoral. Guilty is guilty. Doing it to an innocent would be bad.
You speak like a true criminal/lawyer. Go hang yourself and save someone else the time.
Replying twice to the same post, but something struck me:
You are confused, you think that a bunch of geeks who are socially inept who would like to have more women in the office to hit on and learn how to hit on, want women in the field.
They don't want women in the field, they want women in the office, that they can talk to and socialize with, as they utterly fail to do so on their own.
They'd be just as happy with doctors, secretaries, or prison inmates if they were women and would talk to them.
Sun's MySQL page states ( http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/mysql/5.4.html ) that it is licensed under GPL and refers you to the following URL:
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/gpl-2.0.html
Which clearly states it can be licensed using any newer version of GPL by anyone who wants to do so.
I'm sorry, you were claiming something about what RMS was stating? I lost track after realizing you had no idea how it was licensed.
Interestingly enough, you won't find either of those living in Taiwan where this is considering completely socially acceptable.
Your concepts, culture and 'tastes' do not apply to everyone, especially everyone living several thousand miles away from you.
Sounds more like you're repressed and don't know how to deal with the issue more than anything else, especially since you've already admitted in another post you will be happy to function as someones sex toy for a million dollars.
Professionalism has a time and place and it generally doesn't share those times and places with people trying to have a good time.
You don't have to be 'professional' all the time, especially when you are somewhere that your definition of professional doesn't match with everyone elses.
Anyone who says they wouldn't perform homosexual sex for a million dollars is either a lair, already has far more money than they need, or is just trying to make sure no one else finds out.
If you're offering, I'll do it for 750K Euros, or whatever the amount converts to in USD.
We're all whores, the only discussion is price.
Funny, seems the women who attended the event thought it was pretty funny to watch the awkward guys on stage not knowing what to do with the women in their face.
Did you get that part? No? Didn't read anything more than the summary eh?
There were female developers there ... having a good time ... The thing is that the just weren't American women, which are so sexually repressed and frustrated with themselves that they can't appreciate any situation which involves a women using her assets to their advantage if it involves physical attributes.
Whats fucked up is that American women are their own worst enemy.
Do you see guys bitching about male strippers? No, well okay, but only out of jealously.
Men are 'objectified' in the same way constantly. We appreciate it, enjoy the praise, and are more than happy that someone else appreciates what we have. Women in most of the rest of the world feel THE SAME WAY.
Its only in America where women get pissed off because another woman is using her abilities. In America, you are only accepted by other women if you shoehorn yourself into doing something you aren't really that good at.
Okay, so thats false, most women in America don't give a damn about this either. Its just the few loud mouths that get attention and the media promoting it that are a problem. I personally don't think I've ever met a woman who truly had a problem with strippers. I honestly don't think I've met a woman who hasn't considered BEING a stripper, including women who are now doctors, lawyers, and a VP of a rather large marketing firm in the US.
Its okay that you don't understand it, if you had some women as friends it would help you out a lot.
A 'hack' is not always security related. A hack is generally a quick fix or dirty fix to make something work the way you want it to regardless of how it was designed, intended to work, or currently functions.
Hack generally applies to what happens during a security failure, but it is not exclusive to security.
I've done plenty of hacks in my career, both with computers and completely unrelated to computers, none of which have been related to breaking someone elses security constraints without permission.
So you are using us Department of Labor stats to talk about something that happened in Taiwan ? Talk about ignoring scoping issues.
This post isn't insightful, its misleading. You're applying American culture and statistics to a country on the other side of the planet. This sort of ignorance is why we, as Americans get referred to as completely uncultured twits. Please stop talking about how things are 'wrong' parts of the world you probably can't even find on a map without names printed on it.
Cry me a river. Everyone morally objects to something someone else does, get over it. No one was harmed. No one did anything against their will. There were no guns to heads.
Anyone who has a problem with this event is the exact kind of uncultured intolerant person that I personally have no need to work with, male OR female.
I'm not changing my ways to appease someone else because they 'dont like' some aspect of the culture of the field. If they want to be in IT they can adjust to the IT field. As they join the IT field will change based on the ratios of what people prefer.
Real women (just like real men) have no problem entering a hostile field without whining and bitching. What you are doing is attempting to change a field, to encourage more people to join it, but the people you are encouraging don't WANT to join it. You want to change the field to get what YOU want, not what women want.
Not EVERYTHING has to have a perfect balance based on sex or race. Differences between sex and race AND CULTURE will ALWAYS result in less than a perfect balance. Thats not a bad thing, thats reality and you need to check it out.