No, it isn't. I have several 'IoT' things, NONE of them use some custom backend infrastructure somewhere else.
Pretty much everyone I know in the IoT and connected device world is still building a backend infrastructure and coding their own APIs, even for pure analytics apps.
Then you're a newb with little experience who must have just recently discovered the NEST and think thats normal. You just included the backend infrastructure on the device, and for a single object. This is how pretty much everything started. Years ago.
2. A detailed tutorial seemed appropriate so people can see some of the ins and outs of doing this, and to show that now non-experts can do this kind of thing as a weekend project.
Except its not a weekend project for those who don't already have considerable know how in the area.
Obviously, this doesn't eliminate code or servers. But the big win is that I don't have to deal with any of that.
Congratulations, you've caught up to 15 years ago. Hell, I have chips with ethernet and serial interfaces that have a built in web server (and a couple other protocols I don't remember) that simply require you to send it a few serial commands to return some html when connected via ethernet. Thats from the late 90s. Just because you recently discovered libraries doesn't make it impressive.
because I've spent a lot of the past 6 years building out and maintaining a scaled sensor backend before. It sucked, and I don't want to do it again if I can avoid it!
So you think because you've only been doing one pigeon holed type of project that there is no other out there?
Its like you've never even heard of an IP camera from 15 years ago.
Worst part is that this made the front page of slashdot.
They aren't going to bring the price down to $50 until the sensors are $1 each. Considering a quality GPS still costs > $50, as do a set of gyros or a set of accelerometers that are high enough quality to be useful, this is a year or two off still.
I can write anything you want in a single line of code, given enough time to make a library that encapsulates all the required functionality into single function call.
Its not impressive, it just shows how you think you're impressive for using so much of someone else's hard work and acting like you did it.
Evil, vile company. Fuck'em. Bezos is a scum bag who makes walmart look like a bunch of saints. They refuse to pay taxes until it benefits them for others to have to pay taxes. Treating their employees like shit. Treating their affiliates as pawns. I wish there was some way to put them out of business... but...
Sadly people will continue to buy from Amazon until they're screwed by not having anyone else to buy from.
Great... now can I run a freaking stand alone pit boss server that DOESN'T require logging into my steam account... effectively making it so my option is to run a server or play the game but unable to actually run a server AND play a game?
A large multiple game of Civ takes weeks at best when you're an adult with jobs, a wife, kids and other bits of the real world, Pitboss is worthless if it still requires being logged into a steam account to use it.
Linux came out when x86 got a BETTER MMU, it wasn't the first UNIX like clone on the x86 platform.
Linux may be a crappy desktop OS, but for a long time there were far more UNIX desktop workstations than there were Windows. Ask SGI, Sun, DEC and a few others.
Linux is not UNIX, OSX is a certified UNIX with far more desktop installs than Linux.
NT based workstations started with the original NT release. That was the point, not servers. NT Advanced Server came second. NT4 came with multiple SKUs from the start, one of which was workstation. Windows 2000 as well. XP was simply where they dumped the consumer branch as the workstation branch was ready for consumers, a plan they had in place since at least the 95 release era.
These aren't 'server' OSes, they are simply reliable kernels. You seem to think desktop OSes are supposed to be shitty and based on DOS with no memory management. You lack experience to know that only DOS/Windows and classic Mac OS suffered from these problems, pretty much EVERY other OS has been light years better.
Linux sucks as a desktop OS because the people who develop it WANT it to suck as a desktop OS, they actively work AGAINST commercial companies making products for it unless those commercial entities kiss the GNU ass.
Android went somewhere because a company commercialized it and essentially told the kernel fanboy club to go fuck themselves, "we'll do it ourselves". Note: Linus isn't the issue here, but the rest of the club is.
Your device has to beacon continuously if you have ANY hidden networks otherwise it won't find them. At least not until it takes GPS location into account to determine if it should be broadcasting to hidden SSIDs.
In other words, any device has a hidden network in its list is always looking. Not to mention that mobile clients DO probe in order to find known networks more quickly than waiting for the WAP beacon.
Doing it on purpose to get around an existing ban on you and allow you to use services you aren't supposed to be using is ENTIRELY different than a it being done as a standard feature that doesn't make any attempt at communication other than discovery of PUBLIC radio signals that you're already allowed to communicate with by default.
Yes, you are correct, you are wrong on so many levels.
If your system is so broken that this is a problem then you're already fucked. Its trivial to do far worse than what this does with any laptop with a wifi card and a simple script.
Encryption is security through obscurity, just like MAC filtering. One is far more difficult than the other, but they are more or less the same. The MAC is a 6 byte key that gets broadcast openly fairly often where as most people use far larger keys for encryption that aren't broadcast at all if possible, but in the end the principles are the same.
Please stop repeating things someone else said that you don't understand.
Security is built in layers, defense in depth. You use as many as you can/need. You ACCEPT that one or more of your security protocols CAN and WILL fail, but you design in the hope that enough of them will work to keep you safe.
Your argument is the height of ignorance. You're arguing that leaving your valuables out in the front yard near the street is just as secure as putting them in your home because you left the door unlocked, ignoring the fact that no one will see them inside the house so they won't know its there to steal. Sure, its easy to walk through then unlocked door, but thats already a step beyond what most people will do.
You act as though that wasn't tried... or using 'special formulas' of fuel to tie them into your fuel supply... or even today, car makers still try to use 'special oil blends' that are required for their car... even though they aren't, by law.
The 'pirates' are giving people SOMEONE ELSES WORK, not their own. They didn't create the product, they stole it, and then 'made it better'.
Just because you don't like the product as sold doesn't mean you (or they, the pirates) have any right to change it as you see fit.
Its not yours to change. How about I come change your home around, how about I come install FreeBSD on your computer because I think its better? Do I get to decide that you need to update the business model by which you rent me your home and other possessions such as your loved ones?
I don't approve of the way you don't let me skip straight to having sex with your wife, so I should be able to change it to my whim regardless of what you or her want, right? Thats what you're saying, because some cartel of people got together and made it illegal for other people to do what they want with women.
Welcome to reality, you don't get to make the rules and if you don't like them you need to do something about it, just breaking them isn't the answer. Learn to work within the government. It is possible if you get off your ass and do something. You just use excuses to take the easy way out.
Save the coral because the coral deserves to be saved.
No, it really doesn't. It deserves nothing.
You can argue that YOU (and other people) want it to survive. You can argue its bad for humans in some way.
What you can not argue is that change can be stopped. The universe IS change. Evolution by definition means the end of species. Humans exist BECAUSE another species ceased, our ancestors.
Species go extinct every day, new ones are created every single day. This is the way of things.
I'm not saying we should say fuck the environment, its in our best interest of the world to stay relatively close to how it is today for the foreseeable future, but people like you really need to stop pretending you can keep the planet exactly like it is forever. All that will happen if you try is your death at the hands of your own starvation.
Yea, because women leave the bathroom in their stateroom BATHROOMS on the cruise ship to throw the tampon tube overboard. They want to make sure everyone knows they have put a tampon in. Cause they are all 12 year old girls. It of course has absolutely nothing to do with where you dump your garbage from those who dwell on land. Just like people who walk out of their staterooms on the ships to throw cig cartons overboard... instead of in the trash which is right next to them in their staterooms. And its all done by the hundred or so rooms per ship that actually have direct access to the ocean via a balcony where they could get by with dumping without anyone noticing.
And no, the cruise ship isn't dumping it overboard at sea either since thats been illegal for years.
Reality: Its standard municipal garbage that is being improperly dumped off garbage barges and has nothing at all to do with the ships you're blaming.
You resent dredging... and you post about it... on the Internet, which is powered by equipment that came from China in a massive cargo ship... using a router and computer which came in a cargo ship from China... probably drive to work in your car... that came to the US in parts from a cargo ship from China.
Get real, if you actually cared you'd have something far more useful to say about the issue.
Yours Truly, A Floridian of 30 years, ocean lover and boater.
ABS generally pumps the brakes at 25hz or higher, about 25 times faster than a human, regardless of how bad ass you THINK you are.
The wheels do, in fact skid a little bit. Wheel skid is how the system knows to pump the brakes. ABS brakes will still live skid marks. The wheels suddenly start having large differences in rotational speeds under heavy breaking and between that and accelerometer data the computer knows you've got one or more tires losing traction.
You didn't slide through an intersection because of ABS, you slide through it because you were going to fast for conditions.
Science... Using professional race car drivers says you are flat out wrong. You can not brake better and maintain control better than a functional modern ABS system. The fact that you are so arrogant and stupid to think you can is reason enough to revoke your license.
They still offer cars without ABS because it's cheaper, and some people want cheaper
Your an idiot. Stay off the road, please, before you kill someone.
Looks like I just escaped disaster by not owning a TV at all.
Aren't you so special and clever.
Torrents, baby, torrents and streaming.
And proud to be a thief. How many legitimate sources of video are offered as torrents? I'd be interested in trying them myself.
I honestly don't understand why people would buy a "smart" TV instead of a monitor, surround sound speakers, and plug it in to a laptop or computer.
Then you're an idiot. Not everyone wants 3 or 4 different devices to do one simple thing. Not everyone wants to dick around keeping a computer working properly all the time.
How many people really use OTA broadcasts nowadays?
About 8% at last check, use OTA exclusively. Significantly more use a mix of OTA and other sources. So a significant number of people.
Of course if you weren't so busy trying to show us how brilliant you were, you'd have taken the 3 seconds required to Google it.
So awesome, you've used your leet skills to run someone else's software, someone else's OS and done a custom setup so you could steal most of your content and contribute nothing at all useful to society other than your arrogance.
We're so glad you have more time than brains so you can set around and do, for more money, what the rest of us do for less without offering in significant advantage.
Timing would make it easier to get larger numbers of televisions. Certain TV shows are more popular. The state of the union address, for example, would be watched by many of those in the more affluent neighborhoods.
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1. This is a legitimately new approach.
No, it isn't. I have several 'IoT' things, NONE of them use some custom backend infrastructure somewhere else.
Pretty much everyone I know in the IoT and connected device world is still building a backend infrastructure and coding their own APIs, even for pure analytics apps.
Then you're a newb with little experience who must have just recently discovered the NEST and think thats normal. You just included the backend infrastructure on the device, and for a single object. This is how pretty much everything started. Years ago.
2. A detailed tutorial seemed appropriate so people can see some of the ins and outs of doing this, and to show that now non-experts can do this kind of thing as a weekend project.
Except its not a weekend project for those who don't already have considerable know how in the area.
Obviously, this doesn't eliminate code or servers. But the big win is that I don't have to deal with any of that.
Congratulations, you've caught up to 15 years ago. Hell, I have chips with ethernet and serial interfaces that have a built in web server (and a couple other protocols I don't remember) that simply require you to send it a few serial commands to return some html when connected via ethernet. Thats from the late 90s. Just because you recently discovered libraries doesn't make it impressive.
because I've spent a lot of the past 6 years building out and maintaining a scaled sensor backend before. It sucked, and I don't want to do it again if I can avoid it!
So you think because you've only been doing one pigeon holed type of project that there is no other out there?
Its like you've never even heard of an IP camera from 15 years ago.
Worst part is that this made the front page of slashdot.
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They've been regulated since before they existed. The FAA already handles them, just like RC airplanes they've handled for the last 50-60 years.
And for reference:
http://ardupilot.com/
They aren't going to bring the price down to $50 until the sensors are $1 each. Considering a quality GPS still costs > $50, as do a set of gyros or a set of accelerometers that are high enough quality to be useful, this is a year or two off still.
you ignore the massive libraries it uses.
I can write anything you want in a single line of code, given enough time to make a library that encapsulates all the required functionality into single function call.
Its not impressive, it just shows how you think you're impressive for using so much of someone else's hard work and acting like you did it.
Evil, vile company. Fuck'em. Bezos is a scum bag who makes walmart look like a bunch of saints. They refuse to pay taxes until it benefits them for others to have to pay taxes. Treating their employees like shit. Treating their affiliates as pawns. I wish there was some way to put them out of business ... but ...
Sadly people will continue to buy from Amazon until they're screwed by not having anyone else to buy from.
Nevermind, I guess I should have googled before I posted
http://forums.2k.com/showthrea...
Maybe multiplayer is actually doable now!?
Great ... now can I run a freaking stand alone pit boss server that DOESN'T require logging into my steam account ... effectively making it so my option is to run a server or play the game but unable to actually run a server AND play a game?
A large multiple game of Civ takes weeks at best when you're an adult with jobs, a wife, kids and other bits of the real world, Pitboss is worthless if it still requires being logged into a steam account to use it.
UNIX isn't a 'mainframe' OS.
Linux came out when x86 got a BETTER MMU, it wasn't the first UNIX like clone on the x86 platform.
Linux may be a crappy desktop OS, but for a long time there were far more UNIX desktop workstations than there were Windows. Ask SGI, Sun, DEC and a few others.
Linux is not UNIX, OSX is a certified UNIX with far more desktop installs than Linux.
NT based workstations started with the original NT release. That was the point, not servers. NT Advanced Server came second. NT4 came with multiple SKUs from the start, one of which was workstation. Windows 2000 as well. XP was simply where they dumped the consumer branch as the workstation branch was ready for consumers, a plan they had in place since at least the 95 release era.
These aren't 'server' OSes, they are simply reliable kernels. You seem to think desktop OSes are supposed to be shitty and based on DOS with no memory management. You lack experience to know that only DOS/Windows and classic Mac OS suffered from these problems, pretty much EVERY other OS has been light years better.
Linux sucks as a desktop OS because the people who develop it WANT it to suck as a desktop OS, they actively work AGAINST commercial companies making products for it unless those commercial entities kiss the GNU ass.
Android went somewhere because a company commercialized it and essentially told the kernel fanboy club to go fuck themselves, "we'll do it ourselves". Note: Linus isn't the issue here, but the rest of the club is.
You haven't been in IT very long, have you?
Your device has to beacon continuously if you have ANY hidden networks otherwise it won't find them. At least not until it takes GPS location into account to determine if it should be broadcasting to hidden SSIDs.
In other words, any device has a hidden network in its list is always looking. Not to mention that mobile clients DO probe in order to find known networks more quickly than waiting for the WAP beacon.
Doing it on purpose to get around an existing ban on you and allow you to use services you aren't supposed to be using is ENTIRELY different than a it being done as a standard feature that doesn't make any attempt at communication other than discovery of PUBLIC radio signals that you're already allowed to communicate with by default.
Yes, you are correct, you are wrong on so many levels.
If your system is so broken that this is a problem then you're already fucked. Its trivial to do far worse than what this does with any laptop with a wifi card and a simple script.
Wrong.
Encryption is security through obscurity, just like MAC filtering. One is far more difficult than the other, but they are more or less the same. The MAC is a 6 byte key that gets broadcast openly fairly often where as most people use far larger keys for encryption that aren't broadcast at all if possible, but in the end the principles are the same.
Please stop repeating things someone else said that you don't understand.
Security is built in layers, defense in depth. You use as many as you can/need. You ACCEPT that one or more of your security protocols CAN and WILL fail, but you design in the hope that enough of them will work to keep you safe.
Your argument is the height of ignorance. You're arguing that leaving your valuables out in the front yard near the street is just as secure as putting them in your home because you left the door unlocked, ignoring the fact that no one will see them inside the house so they won't know its there to steal. Sure, its easy to walk through then unlocked door, but thats already a step beyond what most people will do.
You act as though that wasn't tried ... or using 'special formulas' of fuel to tie them into your fuel supply ... or even today, car makers still try to use 'special oil blends' that are required for their car ... even though they aren't, by law.
... yea, so Snowden still doesn't know he was tricked?
The 'pirates' are giving people SOMEONE ELSES WORK, not their own. They didn't create the product, they stole it, and then 'made it better'.
Just because you don't like the product as sold doesn't mean you (or they, the pirates) have any right to change it as you see fit.
Its not yours to change. How about I come change your home around, how about I come install FreeBSD on your computer because I think its better? Do I get to decide that you need to update the business model by which you rent me your home and other possessions such as your loved ones?
I don't approve of the way you don't let me skip straight to having sex with your wife, so I should be able to change it to my whim regardless of what you or her want, right? Thats what you're saying, because some cartel of people got together and made it illegal for other people to do what they want with women.
Welcome to reality, you don't get to make the rules and if you don't like them you need to do something about it, just breaking them isn't the answer. Learn to work within the government. It is possible if you get off your ass and do something. You just use excuses to take the easy way out.
Why do you have to pick one or the other?
He's guilty, everyone knows it, why would you willingly let him go? Why not take out both of the criminals instead of exchanging one for the other?
... Do you know absolutely ANYTHING about kim dot com? If he were JUST an asshole, I'd agree with you.
Let me guess, you know nothing about his history and you think megaupload was a legitimate file sharing site?
Being an asshole is one of his better traits.
Yea, you should definitely defend the fraudster by claiming it was US government corruption that put him where he is.
He should be let off because his corruption was okay, because someone else was doing it too ... right?
Save the coral because the coral deserves to be saved.
No, it really doesn't. It deserves nothing.
You can argue that YOU (and other people) want it to survive. You can argue its bad for humans in some way.
What you can not argue is that change can be stopped. The universe IS change. Evolution by definition means the end of species. Humans exist BECAUSE another species ceased, our ancestors.
Species go extinct every day, new ones are created every single day. This is the way of things.
I'm not saying we should say fuck the environment, its in our best interest of the world to stay relatively close to how it is today for the foreseeable future, but people like you really need to stop pretending you can keep the planet exactly like it is forever. All that will happen if you try is your death at the hands of your own starvation.
That may be so. Or it might not be. I don't know enough about this issue to judge.
... that, by definition and your own statements ... makes it highly questionable.
The rest of your post is just disputing facts in exchange for theories
Yea, because women leave the bathroom in their stateroom BATHROOMS on the cruise ship to throw the tampon tube overboard. They want to make sure everyone knows they have put a tampon in. Cause they are all 12 year old girls. It of course has absolutely nothing to do with where you dump your garbage from those who dwell on land. Just like people who walk out of their staterooms on the ships to throw cig cartons overboard ... instead of in the trash which is right next to them in their staterooms. And its all done by the hundred or so rooms per ship that actually have direct access to the ocean via a balcony where they could get by with dumping without anyone noticing.
And no, the cruise ship isn't dumping it overboard at sea either since thats been illegal for years.
Reality: Its standard municipal garbage that is being improperly dumped off garbage barges and has nothing at all to do with the ships you're blaming.
You resent dredging ... and you post about it ... on the Internet, which is powered by equipment that came from China in a massive cargo ship ... using a router and computer which came in a cargo ship from China ... probably drive to work in your car ... that came to the US in parts from a cargo ship from China.
Get real, if you actually cared you'd have something far more useful to say about the issue.
Yours Truly,
A Floridian of 30 years, ocean lover and boater.
ABS generally pumps the brakes at 25hz or higher, about 25 times faster than a human, regardless of how bad ass you THINK you are.
The wheels do, in fact skid a little bit. Wheel skid is how the system knows to pump the brakes. ABS brakes will still live skid marks. The wheels suddenly start having large differences in rotational speeds under heavy breaking and between that and accelerometer data the computer knows you've got one or more tires losing traction.
You didn't slide through an intersection because of ABS, you slide through it because you were going to fast for conditions.
Science ... Using professional race car drivers says you are flat out wrong. You can not brake better and maintain control better than a functional modern ABS system. The fact that you are so arrogant and stupid to think you can is reason enough to revoke your license.
They still offer cars without ABS because it's cheaper, and some people want cheaper
Your an idiot. Stay off the road, please, before you kill someone.
Looks like I just escaped disaster by not owning a TV at all.
Aren't you so special and clever.
Torrents, baby, torrents and streaming.
And proud to be a thief. How many legitimate sources of video are offered as torrents? I'd be interested in trying them myself.
I honestly don't understand why people would buy a "smart" TV instead of a monitor, surround sound speakers, and plug it in to a laptop or computer.
Then you're an idiot. Not everyone wants 3 or 4 different devices to do one simple thing. Not everyone wants to dick around keeping a computer working properly all the time.
How many people really use OTA broadcasts nowadays?
About 8% at last check, use OTA exclusively. Significantly more use a mix of OTA and other sources. So a significant number of people.
Of course if you weren't so busy trying to show us how brilliant you were, you'd have taken the 3 seconds required to Google it.
So awesome, you've used your leet skills to run someone else's software, someone else's OS and done a custom setup so you could steal most of your content and contribute nothing at all useful to society other than your arrogance.
We're so glad you have more time than brains so you can set around and do, for more money, what the rest of us do for less without offering in significant advantage.
Timing would make it easier to get larger numbers of televisions. Certain TV shows are more popular. The state of the union address, for example, would be watched by many of those in the more affluent neighborhoods.
Where is there a taxi monopoly? Do you know what the word means? I don't think you do.