Legal loophole my foot. Copyright law is supposed to apply to creative work, nothing else. And the point of copyright law is to advance society in general, not the people who make creative stuff (the only reason we do anything for them is so that they'll make more creative stuff).
Heh, I actually do troll with this account sometimes, but I've been entirely serious throughout this discussion. I didn't calculate anything. Like I said in my first topic, I haven't been to any concerts and I was wondering why people find the idea appealing. Maybe I'll go to some live music thing once and experience it and see if I consider such events worthwhile. Judging from most of the comments here, it doesn't sound like something I'd enjoy too much. I don't have a "real hatred" for it, though.
No, see, I usually do have broadband. I was away on business and that's why I had to use dialup. I prefer to filter my own damn e-mail because otherwise I don't know if my ISP is going to fuck it up like, for example, AOL does.
Nice troll. The mere fact that I find something uninteresting is not reason enough to go out of my way to avoid it. It is, however, quite a good reason not to go out of my way to experience it. P2P does not help me very much as I listen to independent music mostly. I also like to give money to musicians that I enjoy so they can continue to produce nice music.
Yes, I read that interesting article a while ago, actually. I only listen to independent music, never anything on the radio, so I am not worried. I also don't watch movies or television, since I know popular music might be featured there. And I try to avoid shopping in stores that play music, unless it's classical.
I don't usually use the mid, mod, s3m, xm, or it (how could you forget Impulse Tracker?) formats for my finished songs, though, because they don't provide powerful enough effects. I usually write songs in Impulse Tracker or MIDI format and then "reimplement" them in a program like Psycle or Buzz that will allow me to add reverb, delay, distortion, and other cool stuff.
- the pleasure from standing in line, paying 75 bucks, being searched,
Holy crap, these things cost $75? No way I'm paying that much for an event that only lasts a few hours. I could set up a FreeBSD server for the price of two of these!
and paying 7.50 for a glass of what some people have the gall to call beer.
I don't do drugs.
- the joy of some yahoo whistling in your ear
- the added experience of other people singing your favorite song along with the artist.
Okay, I'm never going to a live concert in my life. Thanks for the tips.
I meant "own" as in "have in a file on my hard disk," preferably in Ogg Vorbis or FLAC format. CDs are for ripping, and then for taking on long trips, but that's it. Also, I listen to independent music mostly. I haven't given the RIAA any money in a while, though I do have some songs around from when I did.
16 bit stereo samples @ 44.1kHz captures audio quite well -- but it doesn't capture dance, facial expressions, stage antics, synchronized light/lasers/visual effects, costumes, etc.
Music is not these things. Music is audio. I love music, but this experience that you say goes along with it does not interest me. Certainly I am not the only person in the world who thinks this way.
What's so good about concerts? I like to own music, so that I can play it whenever it is convenient. I hear this talk all the time about how artists should make money through concerts, but I've never been to a concert in my life and don't understand why I should care to. Micropayments are probably a better idea.
They don't get $12.98, the stores do. They get a little less than that. I wonder what the new CDs will cost at Cheap-CDs, which sells CDs at near wholesale prices. That should give you a better idea of how much profit the record companies are making.
You seem very insistent on having content to consume. Have you ever thought of producing your own content? I compose songs and produce movies, and though I don't quite have enough bandwidth to serve them up myself, it would be quite a pain to upload them all to my web host on dialup. Having a slow Internet connection would be crippling to my ability to share my creations with others.
That reminds me... people are always saying cable is cheaper than DSL. Around here, cable Internet is $25 a month if you already have cable TV, but $50 a month if you don't. So the prices are actually much closer than they seem.
Since I don't watch television (I don't even own one), I went with DSL. It was actually a better deal, because the local cable service filters port 80, which would have prevented me from running a web server.
Not necessarily. As another poster noted, upload rates are usually much lower than download rates. I have cable with 24 Kb/s upstream, so I could host a low-traffic, mostly text web site (if port 80 wasn't filtered), but I would never survive a slashdotting.
Slashdot Mirror
Indeed. And Microsoft would never hinder free competition, nor would they be unfair to their competitors. Right.
Legal loophole my foot. Copyright law is supposed to apply to creative work, nothing else. And the point of copyright law is to advance society in general, not the people who make creative stuff (the only reason we do anything for them is so that they'll make more creative stuff).
No. Terrorism is the use of violence to influence politics.
Heh, I actually do troll with this account sometimes, but I've been entirely serious throughout this discussion. I didn't calculate anything. Like I said in my first topic, I haven't been to any concerts and I was wondering why people find the idea appealing. Maybe I'll go to some live music thing once and experience it and see if I consider such events worthwhile. Judging from most of the comments here, it doesn't sound like something I'd enjoy too much. I don't have a "real hatred" for it, though.
No, see, I usually do have broadband. I was away on business and that's why I had to use dialup. I prefer to filter my own damn e-mail because otherwise I don't know if my ISP is going to fuck it up like, for example, AOL does.
Nice troll. The mere fact that I find something uninteresting is not reason enough to go out of my way to avoid it. It is, however, quite a good reason not to go out of my way to experience it. P2P does not help me very much as I listen to independent music mostly. I also like to give money to musicians that I enjoy so they can continue to produce nice music.
Yes, I read that interesting article a while ago, actually. I only listen to independent music, never anything on the radio, so I am not worried. I also don't watch movies or television, since I know popular music might be featured there. And I try to avoid shopping in stores that play music, unless it's classical. I don't usually use the mid, mod, s3m, xm, or it (how could you forget Impulse Tracker?) formats for my finished songs, though, because they don't provide powerful enough effects. I usually write songs in Impulse Tracker or MIDI format and then "reimplement" them in a program like Psycle or Buzz that will allow me to add reverb, delay, distortion, and other cool stuff.
Shipping is a flat rate if you buy 4 CDs or more.
I meant "own" as in "have in a file on my hard disk," preferably in Ogg Vorbis or FLAC format. CDs are for ripping, and then for taking on long trips, but that's it. Also, I listen to independent music mostly. I haven't given the RIAA any money in a while, though I do have some songs around from when I did.
The artists and song writers were losing already. Shame on you to think otherwise.
How exactly is Best Buy a competitor to a record company? I never knew Best Buy published music.
What's so good about concerts? I like to own music, so that I can play it whenever it is convenient. I hear this talk all the time about how artists should make money through concerts, but I've never been to a concert in my life and don't understand why I should care to. Micropayments are probably a better idea.
They don't get $12.98, the stores do. They get a little less than that. I wonder what the new CDs will cost at Cheap-CDs, which sells CDs at near wholesale prices. That should give you a better idea of how much profit the record companies are making.
I use 172.16.0.0/12. That way I don't have any problems connecting over VPN to networks that use 10.0.0.0/16 or 192.168.0.0/8.
Right. I wish I had 1000000 Gb/s downstream. That would be super cool.
You seem very insistent on having content to consume. Have you ever thought of producing your own content? I compose songs and produce movies, and though I don't quite have enough bandwidth to serve them up myself, it would be quite a pain to upload them all to my web host on dialup. Having a slow Internet connection would be crippling to my ability to share my creations with others.
That reminds me... people are always saying cable is cheaper than DSL. Around here, cable Internet is $25 a month if you already have cable TV, but $50 a month if you don't. So the prices are actually much closer than they seem.
Since I don't watch television (I don't even own one), I went with DSL. It was actually a better deal, because the local cable service filters port 80, which would have prevented me from running a web server.
Not necessarily. As another poster noted, upload rates are usually much lower than download rates. I have cable with 24 Kb/s upstream, so I could host a low-traffic, mostly text web site (if port 80 wasn't filtered), but I would never survive a slashdotting.