... and the ultimate advancement came when the mouse was introduced, forcing right handed people to use their more developed instrument (fitted to perform complex movements like writing) to press buttons. Sic(k)!
I would even write an application in PROLOG if I get paid (once when I coded (had to), I for the fun of it wrote matrix multiplication in (then TURBO) PROLOG, which actually was no fun but was possible).
Sorry, sad to see that the server of the local radio station (NDR in Hambug where parts of airbusses are assembled and then flown to Toulouse with a A300-600ST) was not able to sustain.
It's called situational ethics - the same action can be right in one circumstance, and wrong in another.
Do not be pedantic. On topic: I disagree - the scenario you try to establish resembles what they did here to sort out "true" "Wehrdienstverweigerer" (draft dodgers) from fake ones. (Most crucial question back then was along the lines of: What would you do if your girl friend would be about to be raped in the woods by a horde of... "). I would put it more like "There are situations that deserve unethical actions in order to survive" and then focus on building an environment within which the probability for such situations approaches zero.
morals do not exist in our three-dimensional world
There we have the problem . My position is that morals (not exactly my position but the one I have picked up while being "academically" socialized (arghhh))is the actual instance of ethics.
Now there would be much else to say, but, admittedly, I have to had for a more "horizontal" position right now (it is 3.40 here). However, if you like, we could go on discussing later or mailwise (cc mm ii ss ii aa kk @@ gg mm aa ii ll cc oo mm).
I am not so sure. Perhaps I would say that I have thought about questions of ethics and morality for quite a while without coming to the ultimate conclusion. Never mind.
If we're talking about my behaviour in light of the current legal framework, THEN AND ONLY THEN are we talking about ethics or morality.
From my position, we then are talking about "morality" (as the current implementation of ethics, if you like).
I don't like them either, but it's not immoral or unethical simply to sue someone.
To me, you do not "simply" sue someone - to me, it is "unethical" (SCO case), but conforms to current business "morals".
You're right. Things are *way* too serious in your world.
Please be precise. You are talking about "Intellectual Property Rights", right? This then moves us quite fast into the regions of moral an ethics (glance at SCO here?). Keep in mind that these areas (at least ethics, morals is more difficult to categorize, room for another thesis) are normative (contrasted to maybe empiricist).
But please let me be ridiculous, there is not much else left to laugh about in this (my?) world.
P.S.: Having a similar point of view, I was rated "Offtopic". Keep in mind that being "thoughtful" does not attract the masses here. In a way, I am sad that I did not have the chance to participate here when this site presumably smelled the air of the internet as it once was (maybe) conceived.
Thank you for replying, giving me the idea to play the original vinyl record that I have (Reprise 44083, presumably 1971, when I was turning 20, ouch).
Though I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say...
That the update managers not always worked for me as expected (I am especially considering gentoo which I installed about a year ago on an AMD64). This might have been my fault, and the same holds (of course) for Debian.
I am not so sure, however, with regard to kernel updates, but I suspect the problem here is too broad semantics of update.
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P.S.: The bottom line is that I should have obeyed the imperative of my current sig.
No idea if you're affiliated to them or just promoting the site...
Nope, I am not affiliated but I in about 1999 when playing with blender
(not affiliated to those either) in order to research ads had the idea that it would be nice to come up with a collaboratively rendered version of 2001 at the beginning of the new millenium.
and so far I know of only 3 that succeeded
Would you think along these lines if 3000+ had succeeded?
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Our dream is to create a movie with the POV-Ray raytracer,
as a collaborative effort of many people from all over the world,
just for the fun of it, "because it can be done" -
very much like POV-Ray itself is developed.
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... a german company (Heilersoft?) who pronounced the name like 'Oh Ess Half'.
Every geek did.
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... and the ultimate advancement came when the mouse was introduced, forcing right handed people to use their more developed instrument (fitted to perform complex movements like writing) to press buttons. Sic(k)!
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Now you got me ::confused::.
I would even write an application in PROLOG if I get paid (once when I coded (had to), I for the fun of it wrote matrix multiplication in (then TURBO) PROLOG, which actually was no fun but was possible).
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... "plain vanilla system" that works for me would help without "graphics".
In rememberance of DWIM, which never made it.
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Put another way, I don't do accounting in Python - why would I want to write applications in Excel?
The client is willing to sign a cheque.
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Sorry, sad to see that the server of the local radio station (NDR in Hambug where parts of airbusses are assembled and then flown to Toulouse with a A300-600ST) was not able to sustain.
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... at 14.25.
0 _REF872_SPC265922,00.html (German)
http://www1.ndr.de/ndr_pages_std/0,2570,OID122143
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...taking the position that manufacturers deprive photographers of the proper future use of their IP if the format is not open? IANAL etc ...
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Quite a nice lively discussion.
:)
For a (perhaps small) segment of participants you could also have written "quote"
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It's called situational ethics - the same action can be right in one circumstance, and wrong in another.
... "). I would put it more like "There are situations that deserve unethical actions in order to survive" and then focus on building an environment within which the probability for such situations approaches zero.
:)
Do not be pedantic. On topic: I disagree - the scenario you try to establish resembles what they did here to sort out "true" "Wehrdienstverweigerer" (draft dodgers) from fake ones. (Most crucial question back then was along the lines of: What would you do if your girl friend would be about to be raped in the woods by a horde of
morals do not exist in our three-dimensional world
There we have the problem . My position is that morals (not exactly my position but the one I have picked up while being "academically" socialized (arghhh))is the actual instance of ethics.
Now there would be much else to say, but, admittedly, I have to had for a more "horizontal" position right now (it is 3.40 here). However, if you like, we could go on discussing later or mailwise (cc mm ii ss ii aa kk @@ gg mm aa ii ll cc oo mm).
So far, it was great fun
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I'm quite aware of what ethics and morality are.
I am not so sure. Perhaps I would say that I have thought about questions of ethics and morality for quite a while without coming to the ultimate conclusion. Never mind.
If we're talking about my behaviour in light of the current legal framework, THEN AND ONLY THEN are we talking about ethics or morality.
From my position, we then are talking about "morality" (as the current implementation of ethics, if you like).
I don't like them either, but it's not immoral or unethical simply to sue someone.
To me, you do not "simply" sue someone - to me, it is "unethical" (SCO case), but conforms to current business "morals".
You're right. Things are *way* too serious in your world.
My problem. Yes. Well diagnosed.
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Please be precise. You are talking about "Intellectual Property Rights", right? This then moves us quite fast into the regions of moral an ethics (glance at SCO here?). Keep in mind that these areas (at least ethics, morals is more difficult to categorize, room for another thesis) are normative (contrasted to maybe empiricist).
But please let me be ridiculous, there is not much else left to laugh about in this (my?) world.
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Therefore you should say in response to are software patents good, precisely: "Yes, if used against M$".
I wholeheartedly disagree, though I, in real life, am not able to follow through consistently.
However, I at least always try to improve my integrity. No, I am not religious, but practice Tai Chi.
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... about it.
Ask yourselves: Are software patents a good thing?
Do not be tempted to say: "Yes, if used against M$"
It is a question of moral judgement.
Kohlberg 1
Kohlberg 2
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P.S.: Now I wonder what happens this time - fucking stupid moderators!
You think too much.
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P.S.: Having a similar point of view, I was rated "Offtopic". Keep in mind that being "thoughtful" does not attract the masses here. In a way, I am sad that I did not have the chance to participate here when this site presumably smelled the air of the internet as it once was (maybe) conceived.
I congrat myself, rating the stupidity of the common "American Idiot" (Green Day) perfectly.
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... about it.
Ask yourselves: Are software patents a good thing?
Do not be tempted to say: "Yes, if used against M$"
It is a question of moral judgement.
Kohlberg 1
Kohlberg 2
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P.S.: Note for moderators: Offtopic, because you are stupid.
Sadly enough, the common moderator here is not DENNIS ;)
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Thank you for replying, giving me the idea to play the original vinyl record that I have (Reprise 44083, presumably 1971, when I was turning 20, ouch).
Zappa still rocks!
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P.S.: An excellent article!
Though I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say ...
That the update managers not always worked for me as expected (I am especially considering gentoo which I installed about a year ago on an AMD64). This might have been my fault, and the same holds (of course) for Debian.
I am not so sure, however, with regard to kernel updates, but I suspect the problem here is too broad semantics of update.
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P.S.: The bottom line is that I should have obeyed the imperative of my current sig.
However, I've never heard much about updates breaking Linux apps.
Hmm, "apt-get" or "emerge" are good candidates; also, I recall difficulties (e.g.) moving from 2.4 to 2.6. Or is this just me?
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No idea if you're affiliated to them or just promoting the site...
Nope, I am not affiliated but I in about 1999 when playing with blender (not affiliated to those either) in order to research ads had the idea that it would be nice to come up with a collaboratively rendered version of 2001 at the beginning of the new millenium.
and so far I know of only 3 that succeeded
Would you think along these lines if 3000+ had succeeded?
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... or a similar instance.
Maya might fit better, but the platform would not be that crucial, I hate to say the trouble would be more on the side of managing it all.
Besides, LINUX took quite a while to grow in term of man years, see The true costs of Linux development.
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... would perhaps be to try to redirect the money to The Internet Movie Project ...
...
Begin Quote
Our dream is to create a movie with the POV-Ray raytracer,
as a collaborative effort of many people from all over the world,
just for the fun of it, "because it can be done" -
very much like POV-Ray itself is developed.
End Quote
or a similar instance
Yes, I am daydreaming.
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