Thanks for the laugh! I haven't laughed so hard sitting in front of a computer in my life. I mean the whole forum being based on "upgrading" a lump of plastic 266 and then your story on your Apple IIe! HaaHaaHaaaa! It reminds me of one of my clients (a geophysist) who asked me to turn a Sun IPc into a seismic analyzer (seriously! It works for part of the job, but c'mon!) It struck me all as funny and close to home. Thanks
and it's here to stay. But as has been said it's been criminalized. In todays emerging "wired" society we'll be re-examining the scripted dogma of our last one hundred years and begin moving back to the free society this country once enjoyed.
It won't happen without pain, most likely, but it will be the hackers and other free thinkers that will be in the forefront.
Look closely at the society that has been built around us and you'll see that most of us are criminals, or will be, because of all the laws that have sprung up. The narrow minded and "Big Brother" types have been having a free-for-all for the last thirty years. Unless the General Public starts rejecting what governments are pouring down our gullets things are only going to become more restrictive.
Here's an example: Indiana Code 6-7-3 A law to collect taxes on illegal controlled substances. It's only purpose is to further penialize those unfortunate souls that are busted with possesion of a controlled substance. Unless you pay the tax before you do the dirty deed, of course.
I know, I'm wandering off topic, but I see it all as a big clash in the future between those who want freedom and those who want control.
Ya know, after I posted this, I got to thinking about sales taxes in general. You come near the point I came to, "...why he doesn't go all year...", but I say why don't all states drop the stupid sales taxes and start being fair in collecting income taxes? I mean, we aren't being taxed on the internet (mostly, and hopefully never), and local businesses are going to lose out in states that do have sales taxes. I can see why brick-and-mortar businesses are getting upset about the tax-free internet, but they have their anger directed in the wrong direction. It should be directed at the whole notion of sales taxes. Don't tell me that states will lose revenues, all they have to do is write realistic budgets and levy resonable income taxes! Quit taxing my already taxed dollars!!
Great, typical misunderstandings made by hysterical people and now we have a new problem on our hands.
OSHA never said that employers were going to be held responsible for workers safety in the home. What OSHA did was respond to a request for guidance and in return sent "interpretation letters" explaining the current policy relating to home workers. They never expected those letters to be regarded as policy measures.
Now, however, since the subject has been broached, everyone from CEO's to Milly the maid are going to be calling their lawyers to see what they can get out of this, and that's going to bring the Feds right back into it.
This is what I want. Uncle Sam standing in my bedroom, with the Board of Directors dictating how I should decorate my living room, and OSHA forced into my kitchen.
Sometimes it's best if people just keep their traps shut! Nobody cared until some shmoe decided he/she was too afraid to make a decision on their own. Now we get to hear from all the left wing radicals how businesses are mistreating their employees in the bedrooms. Just wait and see. You won't be able to work from your house without hiring a half dozen lawyers and signing away your social security benifits a few years from now. Good grief!
On top of all this, Ms. Herman wants a national dialog! Why don't we just rip out our brains, tie them up in pretty bows and send them special deliverly the the White House now, and get it over with! Once a bunch of week knee'd polititions get their hands on this we're doomed! What better slogan could you ask for? "I'm for protecting the worker. ...!" That's what they'll say! But don't you believe it!
I agree with you Bruce! But then there's the idiots that know nothing about technology at all that are in the position to tell you how to do your job. 'Cmon, we all have or know one. My people told us we needed to shut down everything in case the power is lost! Of course I ignored them, but I know many departments took their word as gospel. Ignorance begets ignorance I guess. My servers didn't crash, we didn't lose power, and my servers are still avaliable.
No, this isn't so much about labor organizing into unions, this is much more important. This is about the freedom to create and diseminate information. From what I've been reading, the program was created without knowlege of the original encryption scheme. I'm no lawyer, but isn't it legal to create a program? And didn't this same thing happen when people were building and selling little boxes to descramble cable signals? I seem to remember that it wasn't illegal to make or sell the boxes, just to use them.
The movie industry is not going to come crashing down because a few people might use the program to decode a DVD movie. I know I'm just waiting to fill up a few hundred gigabytes of disk space for a few movies! DVD's are cheap. If they make them cheaper more will sell. Most people know what is right and wrong, and as long as the movie makers don't price their titles so high as to encourage pirating there won't be any pirating.
I do think that it is very important that security "features" of all types be constantly tested and attacked to improve all types of security.
"Free Information Zone!" This is the battle cry of the new Millennium!
I think the Lawyers are chasing the wrong people. In the complaint itself it specifies... "31. Before allowing their copyrighted motion pictures to be used on the DVD format, the motion picture companies insisted on a viable copy protection system. ..", apparently the copy protection system isn't viable.
I don't know why you ". ..can't understand why this project exists. ..", I mean we're just a bunch of humans bossing around a bunch of machines. Why _not_ teach them a new language? Plus it's fun, and you never know where it will go. As for abondoning old machines just because the new shiny ones have arrived, what a waste. Not only can you do lots of things with the older machines and software, but, yet again, it's fun! I have a perfectly good 486DX-100 by my desk at work, and I intend to find (for free) more of them in the future.
Ah, excuse me, but where do these ideas come from? Too much TV and movies I think. Believe it or not, the military is NOT made up of a bunch of unthinking, uncaring war mongers and pychopaths. They are predominatly 18-24 year olds, who just got over missing their mommies and have no desire to destroy the U.S., their home, by the way. And as far as the top brass is concerned, they really can tell a dumb order from a sound one, and you can bet, that if the President were to make a dumb order the commanders in charge would make sure that it was carried out "soundly".
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Thanks for the laugh! I haven't laughed so hard sitting in front of a computer in my life. I mean the whole forum being based on "upgrading" a lump of plastic 266 and then your story on your Apple IIe! HaaHaaHaaaa! It reminds me of one of my clients (a geophysist) who asked me to turn a Sun IPc into a seismic analyzer (seriously! It works for part of the job, but c'mon!) It struck me all as funny and close to home. Thanks
and it's here to stay. But as has been said it's been criminalized. In todays emerging "wired" society we'll be re-examining the scripted dogma of our last one hundred years and begin moving back to the free society this country once enjoyed.
It won't happen without pain, most likely, but it will be the hackers and other free thinkers that will be in the forefront.
Look closely at the society that has been built around us and you'll see that most of us are criminals, or will be, because of all the laws that have sprung up. The narrow minded and "Big Brother" types have been having a free-for-all for the last thirty years. Unless the General Public starts rejecting what governments are pouring down our gullets things are only going to become more restrictive.
Here's an example:
Indiana Code 6-7-3 A law to collect taxes on illegal controlled substances. It's only purpose is to further penialize those unfortunate souls that are busted with possesion of a controlled substance. Unless you pay the tax before you do the dirty deed, of course.
I know, I'm wandering off topic, but I see it all as a big clash in the future between those who want freedom and those who want control.
Open source vs. Closed source... who will win?
Ya know, after I posted this, I got to thinking about sales taxes in general. You come near the point I came to, "...why he doesn't go all year...", but I say why don't all states drop the stupid sales taxes and start being fair in collecting income taxes? I mean, we aren't being taxed on the internet (mostly, and hopefully never), and local businesses are going to lose out in states that do have sales taxes. I can see why brick-and-mortar businesses are getting upset about the tax-free internet, but they have their anger directed in the wrong direction. It should be directed at the whole notion of sales taxes. Don't tell me that states will lose revenues, all they have to do is write realistic budgets and levy resonable income taxes! Quit taxing my already taxed dollars!!
Great, typical misunderstandings made by hysterical people and now we have a new problem on our hands.
..!" That's what they'll say! But don't you believe it!
OSHA never said that employers were going to be held responsible for workers safety in the home. What OSHA did was respond to a request for guidance and in return sent "interpretation letters" explaining the current policy relating to home workers. They never expected those letters to be regarded as policy measures.
Now, however, since the subject has been broached, everyone from CEO's to Milly the maid are going to be calling their lawyers to see what they can get out of this, and that's going to bring the Feds right back into it.
This is what I want. Uncle Sam standing in my bedroom, with the Board of Directors dictating how I should decorate my living room, and OSHA forced into my kitchen.
Sometimes it's best if people just keep their traps shut! Nobody cared until some shmoe decided he/she was too afraid to make a decision on their own. Now we get to hear from all the left wing radicals how businesses are mistreating their employees in the bedrooms. Just wait and see. You won't be able to work from your house without hiring a half dozen lawyers and signing away your social security benifits a few years from now. Good grief!
On top of all this, Ms. Herman wants a national dialog! Why don't we just rip out our brains, tie them up in pretty bows and send them special deliverly the the White House now, and get it over with! Once a bunch of week knee'd polititions get their hands on this we're doomed! What better slogan could you ask for? "I'm for protecting the worker. .
I agree with you Bruce! But then there's the idiots that know nothing about technology at all that are in the position to tell you how to do your job. 'Cmon, we all have or know one. My people told us we needed to shut down everything in case the power is lost! Of course I ignored them, but I know many departments took their word as gospel. Ignorance begets ignorance I guess. My servers didn't crash, we didn't lose power, and my servers are still avaliable.
No, this isn't so much about labor organizing into unions, this is much more important. This is about the freedom to create and diseminate information. From what I've been reading, the program was created without knowlege of the original encryption scheme. I'm no lawyer, but isn't it legal to create a program? And didn't this same thing happen when people were building and selling little boxes to descramble cable signals? I seem to remember that it wasn't illegal to make or sell the boxes, just to use them.
The movie industry is not going to come crashing down because a few people might use the program to decode a DVD movie. I know I'm just waiting to fill up a few hundred gigabytes of disk space for a few movies! DVD's are cheap. If they make them cheaper more will sell. Most people know what is right and wrong, and as long as the movie makers don't price their titles so high as to encourage pirating there won't be any pirating.
I do think that it is very important that security "features" of all types be constantly tested and attacked to improve all types of security.
"Free Information Zone!" This is the battle cry of the new Millennium!
I think the Lawyers are chasing the wrong people. In the complaint itself it specifies... .", apparently the copy protection system isn't viable.
"31. Before allowing their copyrighted motion pictures to be used on the DVD format, the motion picture companies insisted on a viable copy protection system. .
I don't know why you ". . .can't understand why this project exists. . .", I mean we're just a bunch of humans bossing around a bunch of machines. Why _not_ teach them a new language? Plus it's fun, and you never know where it will go. As for abondoning old machines just because the new shiny ones have arrived, what a waste. Not only can you do lots of things with the older machines and software, but, yet again, it's fun!
I have a perfectly good 486DX-100 by my desk at work, and I intend to find (for free) more of them in the future.
Ah, excuse me, but where do these ideas come from? Too much TV and movies I think. Believe it or not, the military is NOT made up of a bunch of unthinking, uncaring war mongers and pychopaths. They are predominatly 18-24 year olds, who just got over missing their mommies and have no desire to destroy the U.S., their home, by the way. And as far as the top brass is concerned, they really can tell a dumb order from a sound one, and you can bet, that if the President were to make a dumb order the commanders in charge would make sure that it was carried out "soundly".