Of course, it would be admissible. What legal principle would exclude it? If someone wrote incriminating information in a diary, for instance, and then threw it into what they thought was an incinerator, but was in fact a mail chute, it would still be evidence of a crime. The fact that they thought they had destroted would be irrelevant.
Yes, all secrecy is obscurity in some sense, but there is an important distinction to be made between two types of obscurity.
The fact that a port knocking scheme consisting of, say, 10 knocks is being used is one peice of information that someone would have to know in order to be allowed in. What the sequence of ports to knock on *actually is* is a second peice of information. These two peices of information are of very different types.
What is the chance that the first peice of info can be guessed? Impossible to say. What is the chance of guessing the second? Simple. It's one over the number of ways of choosing 10 ports from the set of all ports. (NumPorts!/(NumPorts - 10)!)
The security provided by the obscurity of the first peice of info is unquantifiable. This is what is typically call 'Security through Obscurity'. The security provided by the the actual password (or whatever you want to call it) is a calculable, knowable quantity. This is real, scientific Security, as opposed to just having a feeling that it is 'unlikely' that someone will guess you are using port knocking, or whatever.
Absolutely. This isn't said often enough. Our society has become safety obesessed to the point that we will not allow people willing to be heros to do so. If someone wants to sacrifice themself (and certainly there are many who would be willing) for the good of us all and for the glory and adventure of it, I would have hoped that they'd be priased and admired, not restrained.
Perforce is the only version control software worth talking about. CVS just doesn't have the features or the robustness to be really useful. I wish CVS would go away, in favor of perforce, or better yet, an OSS equivalent. What's happening with subversion? Is it useable yet?
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Of course, it would be admissible. What legal principle would exclude it? If someone wrote incriminating information in a diary, for instance, and then threw it into what they thought was an incinerator, but was in fact a mail chute, it would still be evidence of a crime. The fact that they thought they had destroted would be irrelevant.
Yes, all secrecy is obscurity in some sense, but there is an important distinction to be made between two types of obscurity. The fact that a port knocking scheme consisting of, say, 10 knocks is being used is one peice of information that someone would have to know in order to be allowed in. What the sequence of ports to knock on *actually is* is a second peice of information. These two peices of information are of very different types. What is the chance that the first peice of info can be guessed? Impossible to say. What is the chance of guessing the second? Simple. It's one over the number of ways of choosing 10 ports from the set of all ports. (NumPorts!/(NumPorts - 10)!) The security provided by the obscurity of the first peice of info is unquantifiable. This is what is typically call 'Security through Obscurity'. The security provided by the the actual password (or whatever you want to call it) is a calculable, knowable quantity. This is real, scientific Security, as opposed to just having a feeling that it is 'unlikely' that someone will guess you are using port knocking, or whatever.
Absolutely. This isn't said often enough. Our society has become safety obesessed to the point that we will not allow people willing to be heros to do so. If someone wants to sacrifice themself (and certainly there are many who would be willing) for the good of us all and for the glory and adventure of it, I would have hoped that they'd be priased and admired, not restrained.
The xerox copier in my office refuses to copy U.S. currency. It beeps and the LCD on the machine shows a picture of a bill with an X through.
Ah.
Tell me, do you use the GUI or the command line client? Just an innocent question.
Do NOT click on that link! You bastard.
Perforce is the only version control software worth talking about. CVS just doesn't have the features or the robustness to be really useful. I wish CVS would go away, in favor of perforce, or better yet, an OSS equivalent. What's happening with subversion? Is it useable yet?
Those wars all happened well *over* a thousand years ago. The Battle of Hastings (1066) would have been much closer to the mark.