If you are having troubles with this....try mandrake or suse. They both have autodetect / install / create destop icon scripts. You might be able to use the Mandrake one with most distros. I dont know about suse's hotplugging script. They automount them as well , errr... mine does and I cant speak for Mandrake because I havent used it in about 2 years). These work for most usb devices, I dont know about hotswappable scsi devices and stuff like that.
I dont know about many distro's, but SuSE and mandrake allow you to automatically log in as a user. You still require a root password, but the other password could be as good as forgotten after setup.
I have only been using Linux exclusivly for about a year. I guess I would say that I am typical for the granny test. Well almost typical, I am only 23 and not female, but other than that, I am a typical home computer user. I use office suites, email programs, browse the internet, watch movies, burn cd's, and keep my finances in order on my pc.
My first complaint is there is a lack of documents that are easily used by the home user. Man is ok, but I haven't really found a good gui for searching for help by topic. That would have been nice. I usually have to search the net to find out what program I have to use to do a certain thing. It would be nice to search for 3d animation, and if a program was installed, have a link pop up to the help file from that program. If more are installed...have multiple links. I guess that comes from using MS for a long time.
Dependancies are a killer. SuSE (its what I use) seems to handle this pretty well. I have yet to install anything over the net. I dont have much need to, I have everything I need. I have noticed that they file systems are big time different. I have used RH , and SuSE. The mount points are different for my removable media. Since I am not a programmer, I can only assume that there is some variable that I can use in a script to detect the usual mount point for say... my cdrom. That isn't much of a deal to me, I can get around well enough to figure the stuff out. But to a new user....I bet it could get confusing, especially if they switch from one distro to another. Suse uses/mnt/cdrom where RH uses something different. Well it did when I last used it, its been about 8 months. I would also like to see a universal package installer. I like the idea of.deb's because they handle pretty much everything. KRPM also looks to make sure dependancies are filled. It would be nice to have a program handle both package formats.
Hardware support is a major issue. I guess we can only blame the vendors for not releasing the proper information to develop those.
The config system for the different WM's and Desktops are completely different. I personally like that, but it would drive my old man nuts. Many of the windows home users that I deal with are used to learning the exact steps to do something, not the concept of how to do it. IE. "to open my add printers dialog, I go to START -> Settings -> Printers -> enter. If it wasn't there...I wouldn't know to look in the control panel." The different distro and WM's place things in different locations and have the config UI's in different places. Most MS users dont even know that you can use the command prompt. Before you flame me, I said users, not admins.
I think a database of available packages for download by distrobution would also be nice. Add a gui for apt, or apt getrpm (is that correct?) with a menu option to add, modify, or remove a source from the list and it would help. Make that same list available to your package manager so it can dl any dependancies that your system doesn't have when it checks and it makes life all happy and stuff.
Some of the stuff I have mentioned is probably being looked at or being solved by the LSB.
Ohhh...one more thing...
It would be nice to have a find button on "add attachments" for the email programs. I dont know how many times I have had to instruct people on how to find the file before they attach it. It would also lower the need for knowing the file system layout of your system. I think it would also solve some of the confusion for the "where is my c:\ prompt" people that are still trying to learn linux. It really isn't that hard to figure out, but if you want someone to migrate from something they are already familiar with...you have to make it really easy for them.
The servers aren't that bad. I have used them for running small domains off of. I have used both 1u and 5u units and have never had a problem. Like I said though, these are small domains (approx. 500 - 1000 users) and the work load is very easy. 1 PDC a few BDC's, and a couple of exchange servers. If it does matter though...my company just went to Dell's recently.
Your statement that whoever decided to block ftp or http was not all there completely misses the point, I think.
Allow my to explain my self better. I meant that blocking FTP and HTTP just because a site is reported to spam is not a good idea. While I don't fight spam for a living, I do regularly write filters for email worms on my company's IDS though. We have to be careful that we only filter out the unwanted and nothing else. There should have been at a bare minimum, 1. A check to guarantee that the site was not spamvertising 2. Emailed the site to notify them of the blacklisting. This would give them a chance to verify the information and not fall victom to someone spoofing the FROM: field and domain. This would also stop spammers from using the blacklist against people by getting them blacklisted after the person reported the spamming. We just need to make sure that when we implement censorship (at the request of others possibly), we need to make sure we dont go overboard.
Why is the blacklist being done on a domain level. Spam is usually email....so block the email address. That is simple enough to do with intrusion detection systems, some application level firewalls, and if your really bored....an access list on a router. Whoever decided to block ftp or http to stop spam was not all there. They should have stopped smtp traffic from there instead and been done with it.
Black listing of spammers is a good idea, we just have to make sure we are only blocking them and not innocent bystandards.
Then all they have to do is by RH from HP and be done with it. HP will conver modified code on a case by case deal. Would you pass up a chance to insure a Hollywood renderfarm when you are given a chance and probabably wont need to defend them? I would.
SCO has already contacted sony. Will sony pony up? Not a chance in hell. SCO is going after any one that is using Linux that they might be able to squeeze some money out of. With Novell buying SuSE and claiming it still has certain rights that it can wave.... SuSE is pretty much a safe bet. HP is imdemnifying its customers as well. Red Hat is waxing the floor with them. Are there any other companies that they can go after? The IBM suit is only between IBM and SCO. It does nothing else for the rest of the industry. SCO can still try to go after other Linux contributers that have access to SVR4 source code. DoD, that could be a funny attack. They are stupid enough to try it, but will not succeed. Hollywood s the only place they almost possibly have a prayer that they can extort some money. Everyone else is pretty much safe at the moment. They could go after other distrobutions, but there isn't any money left. If Novell does still have rights to waiver infringments....then all people have to do is switch to suse and keep on trucking. There shouldnt be any need to go back to windows or sun, irix,hpux, or other proprietary os. They also would have to prove that they have infringing code in the Linux kernel and other GNU software if they are to attack HollyWood.
I think SCO has just reached 100 deciJobs in the reality distortion field.
Actually, the SCO case can be dismissed and not affect the IBM countersuit. The GPL issue isn't brought up in the SCO case; it is part of the IBM case. The GPL will still be tested even if Judge Kimball tells SCO to quit smoking crack and continue with discovery for the suit that IBM brought against them.
Well, Id say I have had about 265 days in the last year where one of those could come in handy. The chance for about 12 hours a day play, with about 180 more consecutive days in the next year. Oh yeah, I think there is about 130,000 people that could find a good use for those for at least 6 months to a year once in a while.
There isnt much to do but hold scorpion fights and play my gameboy here. I dont need professionalism, I have a shelter with a door;)
Am I the only one that had the inspector gadget theam song go charging rampantly through my head while readint the little blurb?
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I am pretty sure that TCP/IP was developed by the millitary. They needed a better protocol. What you said is true though, BSD and Microsoft did develop the implementations that they use in thier OS's at the same time. I think both tcp and ip have been around since the 70's though (just in use at DoD and not majorly on arpa net, but I could be wrong). Am I correct, or am I making my self look terribly stupid here.
PS. Dont Feed The Trolls!:)
You are missing one minor fact. If the License is declaired invalid, then SCO doesnt have permission to distribute the software. Since openssl, samba, etc are released under the GPL, they cannot be distributed if the GPL is ruled invalid without written permission from the copyright holders. I also believe that the GPL states that you have to accept the license in order to distribute (but not use) the software. If SCO is trying to get the GPL declaired unconstitutional, then it cannot also accept the license and therefore cannot distribute the software covered under the GPL.
I do see what you are saying, but they cannot accept and claim that the GPL is invalid at the same time.
I agree. If you look at the parent, it says IF the gpl is invalid. I really dont want it to become invalid. If sco is able to invalidate the gpl though, break out the shotguns cause Im gonna kill the damn gander that fucked my goose:)
You are right. The oath does not have an experation date. My point was more that we are to protect and defend the constitution, even if it means overthrowing the government. You are right in all accounts as well about the crew members. I dont know about the exact wording, but I think you are right about the defend and not uphold. I could argue though that defending the constitution is upholding it. Either way, you are enforcing it. I dont know if you are being sarcasting when you say *MY* children.... . I think you are saying it that way to emphasize that you feel responsible (and they are yours) for them. I feel the same way about the freedoms of *MY* country. I hope all of us (no matter what country you are from) feel that way about our countries. If we dont take a personal interest in our homelands, then we cant complain when it is no longer ours.
OTOH, I am glad I could be of service to you and your family, as well as everyone elses.
Most "Weapons" were tools by design or original purpose. Nuclear fusion was a way to create huge amounts of energy, later it was used as a WMD. Planes were not originally designed to be used as tools of war, but they later became so. Agent orange was a fertalizer. "GUNS" were originally used for hunting. They were tools of the hunt. Now they have been refined to very efficient weapons. The blunderbust would make a horrible weapon, it only used shot. Shotguns are not superlative weapons (without using rifled slugs) due to the limited range for killing, but they work great for putting food on the table (ducks, rabbits, phesant, quail, small game).
just FYI, a "gun" is a weapon. It , by definition, does not have rifling. The only true guns out there are now shotguns.
Granted, back to my ealier comment, some weapons were designed as weapons originally. A knife wasn't, but I dont see much use for a sword as anything but a weapon. A machette has other purposes, but that is an exception but I dont think it predates the katana or tao. Cannons were designed as weapons, not tools. I guess it more matters on the intent of the user then the purpose that the item was designed for.
That said, I am a firearm owner, and I will use them as weapons if the need arrises.
"The problem with this is, that the types of firearms the government allows you to own are so limited that they would be almost useless in an armed conflict against the military"
Yes, you are correct. A 30/30 isnt going to do jack to a Bradley, or an Abrahms. But, if you can, head down to a millitary post, recruiting office and get a copy of the oath of enlistment. In that oath, you will see the phrase "uphold the constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic". This doesnt just apply to civil uprisings and such. This also applies to the government. If they try to turn the US into a dictatorship (or do other things that will undermine the Constitution and the liberties of the populous) then we, the millitary, are sworn by our oath of enlistment to put an end to it. If we fail, we will probably be tried for mutiny (spelling?) and put to death. I am one of those people that have sworn to uphold the constitution and to protect the liberties that make our country great. I am sworn to follow my orders, but I am required to disobey if they are illegal. I just hope we never have to act on our oath and protect my country from its government with the use of force.
Secondly, a stick of dynamite (you can make explosives with that amount of strength) can disable a tank with the proper placement. You de track a tank, it is stuck. It cant move, its only good for as far as it can shoot. I do doubt that you can get close enough to a tank to do it though if the crew is actively engaging aggressors.
I was unaware that APT could support RPM's. I just assumed that since apt only supported.deb's, it was a given that I was talking about deb's. Thanks for the information and making my information more accurate. I still can handle deb's though, suse has the dkpg packages (ironic that they were installed via rpm) to handly the deb's. I again thank you for letting me know the apt was getting RPM's and not the deb's though.
Seriously, the solar flares would wipe out most of the communications in the northern hemisphere. They help in the ionization of the stratosphere which ruins any chance of tropospheric scatter radio, the flares mess with LOS and satellite comms as well. We would all have use land based lines for a while. Damn, there goes any chance of me getting satellite net!
Can be used on the same systems without using Alien anyways. They dont really coexist on the server, but my box handles them both flawlessly. SuSE supports APT and RPM's well. I have never had a problem with using either packaging format. Do other "commercial" distro's not do this? I know there is a big (and almost religous) argument on which is the better format, but to me, (just a user, not a developer) I dont see any difference.
OTOH, I dont think having things get to standardized is a good idea. I like how some distros do some things and dont like how others do the exact same thing. It wouldn't stop me if everything was done a way I dont like it, but it would take a lot longer to get my box the way I want it.
Again, the GPL covers distribution only, so the only direct GPL violation could be if SCO went after people who obtained Linux from SCO themselves (which they are in fact doing, but this presumably doesn't cover the case of the mythical Fortune 1000 Company). Otherwise, any argument against SCO would be rather indirect.
Your right, SCO is going after OpenLinux customers. They are violating the GPL because the license they are selling restricts distrobution. The thing is though, its free to OpenLinux (and all versions of linux that were purchased from SCO) users. If any of you out there have a version of OpenLinux, register it and get the license and post the damn thing. It wont cost you anything.
The proof is here Check #24
SCO is offering introductory, promotion pricing until October 1, 2003. Customers who are interested in purchasing the SCO IP license for Linux should contact their SCO sales representative or call SCO at 1-800 726-8649 for further information.
The introductory, promotional pricing available until October 1, 2003 is as follows:
A client license for a single user desktop system is $199. A single CPU, embedded device is $32. Server Licenses RTU SCO IP in a Linux Distribution
Promotional License Fee With 1 CPU $699 With 2 CPUs $1,149 With 4 CPUs $2,499 With 8 CPUs $4,999 Each Additional CPU $749
is that you can contact them and reserve your piece of paper at the current price. Oh wait, that's right, I dont need a stinking piece of paper.
BTW, the 699 every one is talking about is for servers. Its only like 200 (approx, I dont remember off the top of my head) for personal use.
I say we all pitch in and buy 1 licence, and then have all the Kernel developers sue the shit out of SCO. We can just add in our 699 to the costs to get our money back:)
(Im not trying to troll, But I think it looks that way, D'OH)
Why not use raid 3? It would be completely hardware based, still get striping and you get parity. Covered on all accounts. I know 1+0 is common, but do any controllers do both simultaniously? That would also require atleast 4 drives. Raid 3 will do it in 3 drives (2 for data, 1 for parity) or just say screw it and go with raid 5. I know raid 5 ide cards exixt out there. Is there any advantage of Raid 1+0 over 5? It seems like it would be faster, but wouldnt the heat / processor overhead even the playing fields?
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If you are having troubles with this....try mandrake or suse. They both have autodetect / install / create destop icon scripts. You might be able to use the Mandrake one with most distros. I dont know about suse's hotplugging script. They automount them as well , errr... mine does and I cant speak for Mandrake because I havent used it in about 2 years). These work for most usb devices, I dont know about hotswappable scsi devices and stuff like that.
I dont know about many distro's, but SuSE and mandrake allow you to automatically log in as a user. You still require a root password, but the other password could be as good as forgotten after setup.
I have only been using Linux exclusivly for about a year. I guess I would say that I am typical for the granny test. Well almost typical, I am only 23 and not female, but other than that, I am a typical home computer user. I use office suites, email programs, browse the internet, watch movies, burn cd's, and keep my finances in order on my pc.
/mnt/cdrom where RH uses something different. Well it did when I last used it, its been about 8 months. I would also like to see a universal package installer. I like the idea of .deb's because they handle pretty much everything. KRPM also looks to make sure dependancies are filled. It would be nice to have a program handle both package formats.
My first complaint is there is a lack of documents that are easily used by the home user. Man is ok, but I haven't really found a good gui for searching for help by topic. That would have been nice. I usually have to search the net to find out what program I have to use to do a certain thing. It would be nice to search for 3d animation, and if a program was installed, have a link pop up to the help file from that program. If more are installed...have multiple links. I guess that comes from using MS for a long time.
Dependancies are a killer. SuSE (its what I use) seems to handle this pretty well. I have yet to install anything over the net. I dont have much need to, I have everything I need. I have noticed that they file systems are big time different. I have used RH , and SuSE. The mount points are different for my removable media. Since I am not a programmer, I can only assume that there is some variable that I can use in a script to detect the usual mount point for say... my cdrom. That isn't much of a deal to me, I can get around well enough to figure the stuff out. But to a new user....I bet it could get confusing, especially if they switch from one distro to another. Suse uses
Hardware support is a major issue. I guess we can only blame the vendors for not releasing the proper information to develop those.
The config system for the different WM's and Desktops are completely different. I personally like that, but it would drive my old man nuts. Many of the windows home users that I deal with are used to learning the exact steps to do something, not the concept of how to do it. IE. "to open my add printers dialog, I go to START -> Settings -> Printers -> enter. If it wasn't there...I wouldn't know to look in the control panel." The different distro and WM's place things in different locations and have the config UI's in different places. Most MS users dont even know that you can use the command prompt. Before you flame me, I said users, not admins.
I think a database of available packages for download by distrobution would also be nice. Add a gui for apt, or apt getrpm (is that correct?) with a menu option to add, modify, or remove a source from the list and it would help. Make that same list available to your package manager so it can dl any dependancies that your system doesn't have when it checks and it makes life all happy and stuff.
Some of the stuff I have mentioned is probably being looked at or being solved by the LSB.
Ohhh...one more thing...
It would be nice to have a find button on "add attachments" for the email programs. I dont know how many times I have had to instruct people on how to find the file before they attach it. It would also lower the need for knowing the file system layout of your system. I think it would also solve some of the confusion for the "where is my c:\ prompt" people that are still trying to learn linux. It really isn't that hard to figure out, but if you want someone to migrate from something they are already familiar with...you have to make it really easy for them.
The servers aren't that bad. I have used them for running small domains off of. I have used both 1u and 5u units and have never had a problem. Like I said though, these are small domains (approx. 500 - 1000 users) and the work load is very easy. 1 PDC a few BDC's, and a couple of exchange servers. If it does matter though...my company just went to Dell's recently.
Your statement that whoever decided to block ftp or http was not all there completely misses the point, I think.
Allow my to explain my self better. I meant that blocking FTP and HTTP just because a site is reported to spam is not a good idea. While I don't fight spam for a living, I do regularly write filters for email worms on my company's IDS though. We have to be careful that we only filter out the unwanted and nothing else. There should have been at a bare minimum,
1. A check to guarantee that the site was not spamvertising
2. Emailed the site to notify them of the blacklisting. This would give them a chance to verify the information and not fall victom to someone spoofing the FROM: field and domain. This would also stop spammers from using the blacklist against people by getting them blacklisted after the person reported the spamming.
We just need to make sure that when we implement censorship (at the request of others possibly), we need to make sure we dont go overboard.
Why is the blacklist being done on a domain level. Spam is usually email....so block the email address. That is simple enough to do with intrusion detection systems, some application level firewalls, and if your really bored....an access list on a router. Whoever decided to block ftp or http to stop spam was not all there. They should have stopped smtp traffic from there instead and been done with it.
Black listing of spammers is a good idea, we just have to make sure we are only blocking them and not innocent bystandards.
Then all they have to do is by RH from HP and be done with it. HP will conver modified code on a case by case deal. Would you pass up a chance to insure a Hollywood renderfarm when you are given a chance and probabably wont need to defend them? I would.
SCO has already contacted sony. Will sony pony up? Not a chance in hell. SCO is going after any one that is using Linux that they might be able to squeeze some money out of. With Novell buying SuSE and claiming it still has certain rights that it can wave.... SuSE is pretty much a safe bet. HP is imdemnifying its customers as well. Red Hat is waxing the floor with them. Are there any other companies that they can go after? The IBM suit is only between IBM and SCO. It does nothing else for the rest of the industry. SCO can still try to go after other Linux contributers that have access to SVR4 source code. DoD, that could be a funny attack. They are stupid enough to try it, but will not succeed. Hollywood s the only place they almost possibly have a prayer that they can extort some money. Everyone else is pretty much safe at the moment. They could go after other distrobutions, but there isn't any money left. If Novell does still have rights to waiver infringments....then all people have to do is switch to suse and keep on trucking. There shouldnt be any need to go back to windows or sun, irix,hpux, or other proprietary os. They also would have to prove that they have infringing code in the Linux kernel and other GNU software if they are to attack HollyWood.
I think SCO has just reached 100 deciJobs in the reality distortion field.
Actually, the SCO case can be dismissed and not affect the IBM countersuit. The GPL issue isn't brought up in the SCO case; it is part of the IBM case. The GPL will still be tested even if Judge Kimball tells SCO to quit smoking crack and continue with discovery for the suit that IBM brought against them.
Well, Id say I have had about 265 days in the last year where one of those could come in handy. The chance for about 12 hours a day play, with about 180 more consecutive days in the next year. Oh yeah, I think there is about 130,000 people that could find a good use for those for at least 6 months to a year once in a while.
There isnt much to do but hold scorpion fights and play my gameboy here. I dont need professionalism, I have a shelter with a door;)
Am I the only one that had the inspector gadget theam song go charging rampantly through my head while readint the little blurb?
I am pretty sure that TCP/IP was developed by the millitary. They needed a better protocol. What you said is true though, BSD and Microsoft did develop the implementations that they use in thier OS's at the same time. I think both tcp and ip have been around since the 70's though (just in use at DoD and not majorly on arpa net, but I could be wrong). Am I correct, or am I making my self look terribly stupid here. PS. Dont Feed The Trolls! :)
You are missing one minor fact. If the License is declaired invalid, then SCO doesnt have permission to distribute the software. Since openssl, samba, etc are released under the GPL, they cannot be distributed if the GPL is ruled invalid without written permission from the copyright holders. I also believe that the GPL states that you have to accept the license in order to distribute (but not use) the software. If SCO is trying to get the GPL declaired unconstitutional, then it cannot also accept the license and therefore cannot distribute the software covered under the GPL. I do see what you are saying, but they cannot accept and claim that the GPL is invalid at the same time.
I agree. If you look at the parent, it says IF the gpl is invalid. I really dont want it to become invalid. If sco is able to invalidate the gpl though, break out the shotguns cause Im gonna kill the damn gander that fucked my goose :)
Why do you just get the samba, mozilla, or openSSL guys to do it, SCO claims that they are shipping samba with unixware 7.1.3.
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You are right. The oath does not have an experation date. My point was more that we are to protect and defend the constitution, even if it means overthrowing the government. You are right in all accounts as well about the crew members. I dont know about the exact wording, but I think you are right about the defend and not uphold. I could argue though that defending the constitution is upholding it. Either way, you are enforcing it. I dont know if you are being sarcasting when you say *MY* children .... . I think you are saying it that way to emphasize that you feel responsible (and they are yours) for them. I feel the same way about the freedoms of *MY* country. I hope all of us (no matter what country you are from) feel that way about our countries. If we dont take a personal interest in our homelands, then we cant complain when it is no longer ours.
OTOH, I am glad I could be of service to you and your family, as well as everyone elses.
Most "Weapons" were tools by design or original purpose. Nuclear fusion was a way to create huge amounts of energy, later it was used as a WMD. Planes were not originally designed to be used as tools of war, but they later became so. Agent orange was a fertalizer. "GUNS" were originally used for hunting. They were tools of the hunt. Now they have been refined to very efficient weapons. The blunderbust would make a horrible weapon, it only used shot. Shotguns are not superlative weapons (without using rifled slugs) due to the limited range for killing, but they work great for putting food on the table (ducks, rabbits, phesant, quail, small game).
just FYI, a "gun" is a weapon. It , by definition, does not have rifling. The only true guns out there are now shotguns.
Granted, back to my ealier comment, some weapons were designed as weapons originally. A knife wasn't, but I dont see much use for a sword as anything but a weapon. A machette has other purposes, but that is an exception but I dont think it predates the katana or tao. Cannons were designed as weapons, not tools. I guess it more matters on the intent of the user then the purpose that the item was designed for.
That said, I am a firearm owner, and I will use them as weapons if the need arrises.
"The problem with this is, that the types of firearms the government allows you to own are so limited that they would be almost useless in an armed conflict against the military" Yes, you are correct. A 30/30 isnt going to do jack to a Bradley, or an Abrahms. But, if you can, head down to a millitary post, recruiting office and get a copy of the oath of enlistment. In that oath, you will see the phrase "uphold the constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic". This doesnt just apply to civil uprisings and such. This also applies to the government. If they try to turn the US into a dictatorship (or do other things that will undermine the Constitution and the liberties of the populous) then we, the millitary, are sworn by our oath of enlistment to put an end to it. If we fail, we will probably be tried for mutiny (spelling?) and put to death. I am one of those people that have sworn to uphold the constitution and to protect the liberties that make our country great. I am sworn to follow my orders, but I am required to disobey if they are illegal. I just hope we never have to act on our oath and protect my country from its government with the use of force. Secondly, a stick of dynamite (you can make explosives with that amount of strength) can disable a tank with the proper placement. You de track a tank, it is stuck. It cant move, its only good for as far as it can shoot. I do doubt that you can get close enough to a tank to do it though if the crew is actively engaging aggressors.
I was unaware that APT could support RPM's. I just assumed that since apt only supported .deb's, it was a given that I was talking about deb's. Thanks for the information and making my information more accurate. I still can handle deb's though, suse has the dkpg packages (ironic that they were installed via rpm) to handly the deb's. I again thank you for letting me know the apt was getting RPM's and not the deb's though.
I thought every body tried to do that.
Seriously, the solar flares would wipe out most of the communications in the northern hemisphere. They help in the ionization of the stratosphere which ruins any chance of tropospheric scatter radio, the flares mess with LOS and satellite comms as well. We would all have use land based lines for a while. Damn, there goes any chance of me getting satellite net!
Can be used on the same systems without using Alien anyways. They dont really coexist on the server, but my box handles them both flawlessly. SuSE supports APT and RPM's well. I have never had a problem with using either packaging format. Do other "commercial" distro's not do this? I know there is a big (and almost religous) argument on which is the better format, but to me, (just a user, not a developer) I dont see any difference. OTOH, I dont think having things get to standardized is a good idea. I like how some distros do some things and dont like how others do the exact same thing. It wouldn't stop me if everything was done a way I dont like it, but it would take a lot longer to get my box the way I want it.
Again, the GPL covers distribution only, so the only direct GPL violation could be if SCO went after people who obtained Linux from SCO themselves (which they are in fact doing, but this presumably doesn't cover the case of the mythical Fortune 1000 Company). Otherwise, any argument against SCO would be rather indirect. Your right, SCO is going after OpenLinux customers. They are violating the GPL because the license they are selling restricts distrobution. The thing is though, its free to OpenLinux (and all versions of linux that were purchased from SCO) users. If any of you out there have a version of OpenLinux, register it and get the license and post the damn thing. It wont cost you anything. The proof is here Check #24
SCO is offering introductory, promotion pricing until October 1, 2003. Customers who are interested in purchasing the SCO IP license for Linux should contact their SCO sales representative or call SCO at 1-800 726-8649 for further information.
The introductory, promotional pricing available until October 1, 2003 is as follows:
A client license for a single user desktop system is $199.
A single CPU, embedded device is $32.
Server Licenses
RTU SCO IP in a Linux Distribution
Promotional License Fee
With 1 CPU
$699
With 2 CPUs
$1,149
With 4 CPUs
$2,499
With 8 CPUs
$4,999
Each Additional CPU
$749
I got that from here
is that you can contact them and reserve your piece of paper at the current price. Oh wait, that's right, I dont need a stinking piece of paper.
:)
BTW, the 699 every one is talking about is for servers. Its only like 200 (approx, I dont remember off the top of my head) for personal use.
I say we all pitch in and buy 1 licence, and then have all the Kernel developers sue the shit out of SCO. We can just add in our 699 to the costs to get our money back
(Im not trying to troll, But I think it looks that way, D'OH)
Why not use raid 3? It would be completely hardware based, still get striping and you get parity. Covered on all accounts. I know 1+0 is common, but do any controllers do both simultaniously? That would also require atleast 4 drives. Raid 3 will do it in 3 drives (2 for data, 1 for parity) or just say screw it and go with raid 5. I know raid 5 ide cards exixt out there. Is there any advantage of Raid 1+0 over 5? It seems like it would be faster, but wouldnt the heat / processor overhead even the playing fields?