Red Hat will release security and bugfix updates for RHEL3 for the next five years, while Fedora will have new releases every six months and won't go much longer than that. RHEL3 has official support and Service Level Agreements. Fedora doesn't.
Technically, one main difference is the kernel, which is patched in a way to increase the amount of continguous memory an application can get from around 1.3G to, IIRC, 3 GB. This makes RHEL kernels good for databases which need large amounts of contiguous RAM. You could rebuild a RHEL3 kernel on Fedora if you wanted to run Oracle on your big desktop box, but you wouldn't get support (besides, check out the EL3 Professional Workstation pricing).
Soulda made it clear, I was talking about why I use Red Hat as opposed to Debian (might made it clearer if/when the flamebait post I replied to gets modded down).
Raleigh, N.C.-based Red Hat, the top seller of the open-source operating system, will sell students its Red Hat Academic Desktop product for $25 and sell schools its Red Hat Academic Server product for $50, including online software updates but no telephone support.
The products will be offered first in the United States, but will be available internationally by the end of the year.
Install The installer lacks LVM and RAID, and asks me for a bunch of information it should be able to get itself - ie, the modules appropriate for my hardware. That's why PCI exists. Likewise X confuration is still pretty ancient - why ask for specs of my monitor? 99% of monitors can be DCC probed, so why not try that first?
Ease of Use (apt-get) Red Hat Enterprise Linux and Fedora include up2date, which handles RHN, apt-get, and yum repositories as well as local disk directories in one handy tool.
Stability Stability? If I want a modern Linux I can install on a machine and keep running for the next five years without having to install anything more than security updates and errata, RHEL looks pretty good. If I don't want to pay for support, I can use whitebox, which is based on RHEL source packages simply rebuilt.
Debian's a great distribution and makes a lot of valuable contributions to open source. it has some advantages too - eg, a much larger base of packages than RHEL, Fedora or Whitebox.
But the rampant Debian evangelism wherever someone even mentions Red Hat gives me the shits, as does the mistaken impression that because Red Hat includes some tools to make things easy rather than forcing people to learn a bunch of stuff right off the bat, that it somehow makes RH any less of a power users distro.
Solid state reliable, cheap (for the small ones) and getting cheaper for the big ones, already less per MB than floppies, and drivers installed by default in every OS that counts (Linux, MacOS, and Windows 2000+)
They don't take into account the cost of downtime. There's many environments where each hour of downtime - due to either scheduled maintenance (which occurs more on systems that need to be rebooted to apply security patches) or crashes costs tens of thousands of dollars an hour.
MS, and most of the other TCO phonies, ignore this.
OT: I'm not sure why the parent is marked as informative. Though I'm grateful for his answer, he apparently didn't actually read the article, not did he answer my question.
No, you need the iTunes client to play any files you buy from the iTunes store.
Well, apparently not any more: now I can also use VideoLAN as well as the iTunes client. What I'm asking is, can I download stuff from the iTms using software other than iTunes?
I have an ipod, and use it together with the nifty GTKPod, Grip and beep to get my music onto the Pod and play tunes off it.
But I'm in Australia, and we don't have iTunes music store yet.
It it possible to use iTunes music store under Linux? Is it just a web site, with files you need iTunes to play, in which case I can use VideoLAN instead? Or otherwise?
In a worse case scenario, does iTunes work under Winex or Codeweavers Wine?
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For example, this is apparently flamebait. Though nobody can explain why.
why should it see adverse effects under heavy loads as compared to the 2.4 kernel?
I'm not a kernel developer, but 2.6 is apprently remarkedky more responsive towards interactive processes than previous releases. It might be slower yet seem faster.
Why should a user care what DE it is 'built for'? Shouldn't it just work with whatever the current FDO standards are, rather than being handicapped if its run on the 'wrong' DE?
I've done nothing to appease the militant Islamic world. I've just stood up for something that is right. I think most US citizens would have the same opinion if they were aware of what their government is doing.
Torturing people is wrong.
Holding prisoners of war in camps for two years without any rights, including access to a lawyer is wrong.
Claiming that people who stand up for what is right when its unpopular are somehow coddling miltant Islam is a lie
At least it sends a signal to both the US and the Islamic world that the majority of first world western countries dissapprove of the motive for the war. Basically, the US government looked like a dick. They would have looked like more of a dick if the Australian and UK governments (who are also dicks) didn't also decide to back them.
UN: "Hand over control of the internet to us (the un), and take it away from icann." Bush (or whoever's president at the time) needs to say "Screw you. No."
Yes! Then when the whole thing turns into a massive shitfight, the net will be controlled by spammers and crackers with a few US based commercial organizations guarding over the good stuff.
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Red Hat will release security and bugfix updates for RHEL3 for the next five years, while Fedora will have new releases every six months and won't go much longer than that. RHEL3 has official support and Service Level Agreements. Fedora doesn't.
Technically, one main difference is the kernel, which is patched in a way to increase the amount of continguous memory an application can get from around 1.3G to, IIRC, 3 GB. This makes RHEL kernels good for databases which need large amounts of contiguous RAM. You could rebuild a RHEL3 kernel on Fedora if you wanted to run Oracle on your big desktop box, but you wouldn't get support (besides, check out the EL3 Professional Workstation pricing).
The Debian installer, ahem.
Soulda made it clear, I was talking about why I use Red Hat as opposed to Debian (might made it clearer if/when the flamebait post I replied to gets modded down).
Raleigh, N.C.-based Red Hat, the top seller of the open-source operating system, will sell students its Red Hat Academic Desktop product for $25 and sell schools its Red Hat Academic Server product for $50, including online software updates but no telephone support.
The products will be offered first in the United States, but will be available internationally by the end of the year.
Install
The installer lacks LVM and RAID, and asks me for a bunch of information it should be able to get itself - ie, the modules appropriate for my hardware. That's why PCI exists. Likewise X confuration is still pretty ancient - why ask for specs of my monitor? 99% of monitors can be DCC probed, so why not try that first?
Ease of Use (apt-get)
Red Hat Enterprise Linux and Fedora include up2date, which handles RHN, apt-get, and yum repositories as well as local disk directories in one handy tool.
Stability
Stability? If I want a modern Linux I can install on a machine and keep running for the next five years without having to install anything more than security updates and errata, RHEL looks pretty good. If I don't want to pay for support, I can use whitebox, which is based on RHEL source packages simply rebuilt.
Debian's a great distribution and makes a lot of valuable contributions to open source. it has some advantages too - eg, a much larger base of packages than RHEL, Fedora or Whitebox.
But the rampant Debian evangelism wherever someone even mentions Red Hat gives me the shits, as does the mistaken impression that because Red Hat includes some tools to make things easy rather than forcing people to learn a bunch of stuff right off the bat, that it somehow makes RH any less of a power users distro.
Reminds me of a comment from the Linux to FreeBSD wipe-your-disk 'upgrade':
How does one moderate an entire article as flamebait?
NFS shares show up under the network neighborhood, and you can mount them to a directory or drive letter just like you can SMB shares.
Just the other day I was explaining the concept of a USB webcam to someone I know and when he showed me his PC, it was running Linux.
So you plugged it in and, while hotplug detected the new device and loaded the module behind the scenes, clicked Gnomemeeting to tell him this?
Solid state reliable, cheap (for the small ones) and getting cheaper for the big ones, already less per MB than floppies, and drivers installed by default in every OS that counts (Linux, MacOS, and Windows 2000+)
I don't know a lot about DAT, and I'm interested in your post. How was DAT crippled?
Clicked the button in my freedesktop.org KDE/Gnome menu and it worked.
No spam, popups, system tray crap, or anything else in the Linux version. Though they should
Here's the package, by the way, for Fedora Core 1.
Here's the source package
If the files aren't there right now, they will be soon.
They don't take into account the cost of downtime. There's many environments where each hour of downtime - due to either scheduled maintenance (which occurs more on systems that need to be rebooted to apply security patches) or crashes costs tens of thousands of dollars an hour.
MS, and most of the other TCO phonies, ignore this.
OT: I'm not sure why the parent is marked as informative. Though I'm grateful for his answer, he apparently didn't actually read the article, not did he answer my question.
No, you need the iTunes client to play any files you buy from the iTunes store.
Well, apparently not any more: now I can also use VideoLAN as well as the iTunes client. What I'm asking is, can I download stuff from the iTms using software other than iTunes?
I have an ipod, and use it together with the nifty GTKPod, Grip and beep to get my music onto the Pod and play tunes off it.
But I'm in Australia, and we don't have iTunes music store yet.
It it possible to use iTunes music store under Linux? Is it just a web site, with files you need iTunes to play, in which case I can use VideoLAN instead? Or otherwise?
In a worse case scenario, does iTunes work under Winex or Codeweavers Wine?
For example, this is apparently flamebait. Though nobody can explain why.
why should it see adverse effects under heavy loads as compared to the 2.4 kernel?
I'm not a kernel developer, but 2.6 is apprently remarkedky more responsive towards interactive processes than previous releases. It might be slower yet seem faster.
Why should a user care what DE it is 'built for'? Shouldn't it just work with whatever the current FDO standards are, rather than being handicapped if its run on the 'wrong' DE?
At least it sends a signal to both the US and the Islamic world that the majority of first world western countries dissapprove of the motive for the war. Basically, the US government looked like a dick. They would have looked like more of a dick if the Australian and UK governments (who are also dicks) didn't also decide to back them.
This is flamebait? How? Its on topic, and its true (if you don't agree, prove it otherwise rather than trying to censor me).
Exactly. Those who aren't in the US are pretty glad the UN is there to hold you back.
I think you've already got an equivalent with the US companies using the global .com namespace rather than CC TLDs as they should.
The postal system was created by the UK, in the UK. The rest of the world wants to take control of something they did nothing to create.
UN: "Hand over control of the internet to us (the un), and take it away from icann."
Bush (or whoever's president at the time) needs to say "Screw you. No."
Yes! Then when the whole thing turns into a massive shitfight, the net will be controlled by spammers and crackers with a few US based commercial organizations guarding over the good stuff.
No way. Their royal family's mates with George. They sound like swell guys.