.. they should really ban anything else that could cause a distraction. I still don't understand how drinking coffee while driving is acceptable, but talking on a cellphone isn't...
Not that I'm defending cellphone talkers.. with the prevalence of bluetooth/handsfree kits today there isn't much excuse to be driving with one hand and holding a cellphone with the other. I don't think a total ban on anything that could cause you distractions (radio, cellphone etc etc) is the right answer, but why would anyone be opposed to banning people from driving dangerously? I don't really care if you are talking on a cellphone and end up in a ditch.. as long as you don't take me with you.
I know a lot of people say that they've been driving for years and years and never got into an accident while talking on the cellphone but here's some food for thought:
1. How many people have been forced to take evasive action because you're too distracted to concentrate on driving and you've simply been oblivious to it?
2. How sure are you that it isn't just pure blind luck that you've need had to react in a split second to avoid a collision?
I'm not one to blindly agree with all "nanny" legislation, but some people just really are a hazard to themselves and others and if it means some nut/housewife in a 4 ton SUV doesn't swipe me while talking on the cellphone/putting on makeup so be it.
Enjerth,
I'm not sure if you were defending my original post that was strangely modified "funny" but yeah, I am serious.
I guess my view/belief is "funny" only if you don't know Islam and therefore the concept of Adam & Eve being Muslim is so alien that it appears funny.
As far as historical support, only what the Quran says - but I guess that opens up a whole new debate on whether the Quran is from God or not. For me, personally, it is and thus I don't believe that Adam & Eve were Christian or Jewish etc. There are plently of references in the Quran for Adam & Eve, Abraham and even Noah - eahc of which would be 'Muslim'
If you're a Muslim you believe that Adam & Eve were Muslim. In my limited time, I found this reference:
http://www.religioustolerance.org/isl_intr.htm
"The Messengers of God, including Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, David, Jesus and Muhammad -- the last prophet; (peace be upon them). Muhammad's message is considered the final, universal message for all of humanity."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophets_of_Islam#Ada m_.D8.A2.D8.AF.D9.85
"The first prophet is Adam, while the last prophet is Muhammad..."
but I will try and dig up something more concrete. The Wikipedia article is especially useful though
Actually, it is a legitimate comparison if you realise that Islam is not cultural. Muslims in Saudi Arabia have very different customs to those in Malaysia.
I chose NASA as an example specifically because of the advancements/inventions they have made this century and are widely regarded as possessing great minds. Will they continue to make the same impacting inventions 200 years from now? If they don't, does that make their achievements this century and less important? Will it be a reflection of their work if they don't invent anything new?
But if you really want to insist on lumping Muslims into the same cultural group (or defining Islam as such), then can you care to list 100 or so inventions that Christianity has been responsible for in the last 600 years? Christianity mind, not scientists who happen to be Christian?
How many of the ideas the 'Western' world (I personally don't like using that term, but whatever) are even possible because of the inventions from years ago?
Maybe in 500 years, people will look back and say "NASA? What have they invented in the past 50 years?"
Actually Islam didn't start with Mohammed. This is a fairly common misconception.
It actually started with Adam & Eve. Mohammed didn't 'found' Islam, he is merely the last Prophet and perfected it.
OK, so you clarified your position - you don't know the subject in hand.
There is a *huge* difference between the email you receive on your standard cell-phone compared to the services provided on a BlackBerry. If all you want to do is make phone calls and take grainy pictures, a regular cellphone is all you need. However, if you need any of the following:
1. Integration with your corporate mail system (Exchange, Notes or Groupwise)
2. The ability to open multiple attachment types (PDF, DOC, XLS, TXT etc)
3. Push-based email (i.e. you don't need to request email from your Mail Server)
4. Ability to integrate your own internal applications on a Handheld that can be accessed anytime
5. Ability to enforce IT Policies
6. Much better than average battery life (I can go for around 3 days without having to charge, and I receive over 70 emails a day)
7. Internet/Intranet browsing
8. Message reconciliation (moves, deletes, read/unreads)
Then you need a BlackBerry. Joe Public never really understands the importance of a BlackBerry but speak to any corporation that uses them extensively, and they'll paint a very different picture.
Overpriced technology?
You should really know what you are talking about before posting. Are you basing this on any factual evidence, or are you just posting on a topic you are not familiar with?
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.. they should really ban anything else that could cause a distraction. I still don't understand how drinking coffee while driving is acceptable, but talking on a cellphone isn't... .. with the prevalence of bluetooth/handsfree kits today there isn't much excuse to be driving with one hand and holding a cellphone with the other. I don't think a total ban on anything that could cause you distractions (radio, cellphone etc etc) is the right answer, but why would anyone be opposed to banning people from driving dangerously? I don't really care if you are talking on a cellphone and end up in a ditch .. as long as you don't take me with you.
Not that I'm defending cellphone talkers
I know a lot of people say that they've been driving for years and years and never got into an accident while talking on the cellphone but here's some food for thought:
1. How many people have been forced to take evasive action because you're too distracted to concentrate on driving and you've simply been oblivious to it?
2. How sure are you that it isn't just pure blind luck that you've need had to react in a split second to avoid a collision?
I'm not one to blindly agree with all "nanny" legislation, but some people just really are a hazard to themselves and others and if it means some nut/housewife in a 4 ton SUV doesn't swipe me while talking on the cellphone/putting on makeup so be it.
Enjerth, I'm not sure if you were defending my original post that was strangely modified "funny" but yeah, I am serious. I guess my view/belief is "funny" only if you don't know Islam and therefore the concept of Adam & Eve being Muslim is so alien that it appears funny. As far as historical support, only what the Quran says - but I guess that opens up a whole new debate on whether the Quran is from God or not. For me, personally, it is and thus I don't believe that Adam & Eve were Christian or Jewish etc. There are plently of references in the Quran for Adam & Eve, Abraham and even Noah - eahc of which would be 'Muslim'
If you're a Muslim you believe that Adam & Eve were Muslim. In my limited time, I found this reference: http://www.religioustolerance.org/isl_intr.htm "The Messengers of God, including Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, David, Jesus and Muhammad -- the last prophet; (peace be upon them). Muhammad's message is considered the final, universal message for all of humanity." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophets_of_Islam#Ada m_.D8.A2.D8.AF.D9.85
"The first prophet is Adam, while the last prophet is Muhammad..."
but I will try and dig up something more concrete. The Wikipedia article is especially useful though
Actually, it is a legitimate comparison if you realise that Islam is not cultural. Muslims in Saudi Arabia have very different customs to those in Malaysia. I chose NASA as an example specifically because of the advancements/inventions they have made this century and are widely regarded as possessing great minds. Will they continue to make the same impacting inventions 200 years from now? If they don't, does that make their achievements this century and less important? Will it be a reflection of their work if they don't invent anything new? But if you really want to insist on lumping Muslims into the same cultural group (or defining Islam as such), then can you care to list 100 or so inventions that Christianity has been responsible for in the last 600 years? Christianity mind, not scientists who happen to be Christian?
Glad you also agree.
How many of the ideas the 'Western' world (I personally don't like using that term, but whatever) are even possible because of the inventions from years ago? Maybe in 500 years, people will look back and say "NASA? What have they invented in the past 50 years?"
I think you're confused. Accomplished anything is NOT the same as 'invented anything'
Actually Islam didn't start with Mohammed. This is a fairly common misconception. It actually started with Adam & Eve. Mohammed didn't 'found' Islam, he is merely the last Prophet and perfected it.
OK, so you clarified your position - you don't know the subject in hand. There is a *huge* difference between the email you receive on your standard cell-phone compared to the services provided on a BlackBerry. If all you want to do is make phone calls and take grainy pictures, a regular cellphone is all you need. However, if you need any of the following: 1. Integration with your corporate mail system (Exchange, Notes or Groupwise) 2. The ability to open multiple attachment types (PDF, DOC, XLS, TXT etc) 3. Push-based email (i.e. you don't need to request email from your Mail Server) 4. Ability to integrate your own internal applications on a Handheld that can be accessed anytime 5. Ability to enforce IT Policies 6. Much better than average battery life (I can go for around 3 days without having to charge, and I receive over 70 emails a day) 7. Internet/Intranet browsing 8. Message reconciliation (moves, deletes, read/unreads) Then you need a BlackBerry. Joe Public never really understands the importance of a BlackBerry but speak to any corporation that uses them extensively, and they'll paint a very different picture.
Overpriced technology? You should really know what you are talking about before posting. Are you basing this on any factual evidence, or are you just posting on a topic you are not familiar with?