Then they can come right out and say that they wish to ban wifi because it has no use in the class or can be used to play around.
That's politically incorrect if someone important came out in public support in the recent past. This cannot be shut off without important heads rolling or at least being embarrassed. Therefore it cannot be shut off as long as the important heads remain in power. You have to wait for them to move up or out, then the new guy can come in, say "WTF is this idiocy" and shut it off. This behavior pattern is hardly limited to wifi deployments at schools...
3rd story is "The administration is being a PITA, so I'm going to retaliate."
I have relatives in the system, so I don't know if I'm skirting either a legal or cultural privacy violation, but I know of at least one situation where the union is fighting management with all they got up to and including RF exposure FUD because management and/or IT busted a teacher for unplugging an access point because kids were screwing around online instead of paying attention to her, and that results in trouble tickets and eventually trumped up accusations of "hacking IT hardware" or "intentional vandalism of school property" or however its exactly phrased. And accusations that she should have been "working harder" to police the kids, and countered with she should be able to control her classroom environment just as she's "permitted" by mgmt to control the room lights (oh how nice of them). Then add in the usual corruption, where a young hot single opposite sex of the principal teacher was not busted for doing the exact same thing, whereas the victim is, as you'd expect, the exact opposite demographic and was busted. And the race card has been released, also. Which is probably too much detail, perhaps pinpointing the exact legal case I'm talking about. So we'll stop there.
My electrical engineering response was that teacher was an idiot for playing with the connectors and cables, should have just wrapped the antenna in tinfoil or bought a wifi jammer off deal extreme or ebay.
Wifi is something that can be controlled... can be controlled in many ways, by many different people. Therefore a workplace with terminally poisonous control issues, is going to fight viciously over it as if its the most important thing to ever exist. Its like a hyper violent military battle over some ugly little plot of grassland... no one cares about the plot of land as merely a plot of land, its just an excuse for both sides to draw as much blood as possible.
If a teacher can't identify and punish people using their devices in class something is seriously wrong... their class sizes are much to large
Hmm whats the cheapest way to solve this problem. Hire double the number of teachers which at current admin:teacher ratios means hiring double the number of admin personnel in addition, or... unplug the wifi that serves little educational purpose anyway...
What about the safety of chairs, has that been thoroughly researched? No, and therefore the precautionary principle and prudent avoidance of exposure to sitting on your ass 6 hours a day should be practiced.
How about "for most of human evolutionary history, clothes have not been worn, and we know for a fact clothing spreads germs and head lice and athletes foot. Therefore we must think of the children and not allow the wearing of clothing in our schools. Heating bills will probably 'perk up' a bit, but..."
The 1st one is the exoteric "I'm scared of technology" FUD that frankly works pretty well.
The 2nd one is the esoteric and totally unpopular "I'm sick of kids playing angry birds in class" and "I'm sick of my boss (principal) and/or family and friends IMing me stupid distracting stuff while I'm trying to teach a class" and "I'm sick of the boss using this to track my every digital action and create utterly meaningless dilbertian machine generated metrics to evaluate me on instead of doing real human observation evals" and "I'm sick of square peg / round hole the silver bullet to all educational problems is just add more internet"
I send my kids to a recently wifi'd school and also have some teacher relatives and option 2 is the reason why they use option 1 as a weapon against wifi.
See, option 1 works and thats all they care about in a "ends justify the means" scenario. If blaming witchcraft or the spread of communism on wifi worked better, they'd be trying that angle instead.
In such an instance, would it not have been better to tell that story in a film or book? That way you could enjoy the story without suffering the bad mechanics.
The dominant subculture has formed where they'd rather die than read a book, no matter how awful the movie. We may be blessed to be living in this era where we can watch a new subculture form, those who will only adsorb culture via video games.
Personally I think a GTA3 style version of the Old Testament would be kind of cool. Plenty of sex and violence. New Testament would be the obvious sequel. I'm thinking the "no images" thing is going to flare up for the Koran DLC package. Scientology done in a GTA3 style video game... Put a ring on it, that one's a keeper.
and civilization, and every hex based military strategy (my specialty) and every board and puzzle game (words w friends etc) Also every driving and flying game ever invented.
Imagine how simply awful Mario Kart would be if you had to sit thru 15 minute cutscenes full of plumber's helper jokes. super mario galaxy was... pushing the limit a bit of what I can tolerate. Or the awfulness of trying to turn any of the Gran Turismo series into a really poor cinematic reinterpretation of "the fast and the furious"
gold, silver, coal, Minnesota rice... Admittedly the entire US rice crop is only about 5% of China's crop, but theres no reason not to make a package deal.
Steel/cast iron/aluminum and tungsten and copper work well too.
Bitcoin? Not as a store of value but as a trading/transfer system?
The euro is toast. Best case scenario is it becomes the neoDeutschmark, and thats not all that good of a case either.
Who do you think has been supporting the mighty US empire with loans for the last few decades? Who does the US now owe more to than it could ever hope to pay back?
First order answer is nothing stops the mint from printing a single $100T bill, and declaring it paid off.
Second order answer is that messes up oil import costs. Once the M.E. is drained dry, or Iran closes the straits, or "whatever", then there is no further point in maintaining the charade. China gets a couple more years of interest payments, then they get something about as valuable as a box of confederate money.
Third order answer is we simply tell them "no". They can't even invade Taiwan... what are they realistically going to do to us, worst case scenario?
Now if we were dumb enough to issue bonds payable in Chinese currency, that would be a problem... We are dumb, but not that dumb.
My apologies, by "never" I should have rephrased that as something much more restrictive like "never in the last 1000 years", because obviously that will be the decisive factor in modern corporate travel policy decisionmaking. I would imagine Chinese compass makers are very rightly at this moment quaking in their boots that we'll steal the new idea of magnetized iron needle compass intellectual property.
If 90% of the websites say bad things about Santorum, and that's what 90% of the results show... where is the problem? We aren't allowed to have online activism now?
His support group has authoritarianism as a core value in their belief system. One of their core values is one authority should tell us all how to think, and they think that vile man would be a great choice... The idea that the beliefs of the majority should control what we think is ethically/morally/philosophically in direct opposition to their core beliefs. So... yeah the majority being disgusted with their vile messiah is exactly their problem. You are all supposed to submit in all ways to gods representative on earth, that vile man, as his supporters have already done so. Its not just a minor disagreement but a collision of philosophical outlooks.
I am thrilled that most people think Santorum is evil personified therefore they put up a website. In a less civilized culture, he would be shot, so I'm proud of "us" for behaving in a much more civilized manner and merely helping him turn himself into a laughingstock. The world would have been a much better place if instead of catching bullets, we instead had three websites: "jfk-sucks.com" "rfk-sucks.com" and "mlk-sucks.com". If Santorum gets his wish and reverses the progress of our civilization and reverts our civilization to past behaviors, he may regret it when he gets some 1960's era response instead of 2010's era response to his vile evil hatemongering.
Its just a windows box with PLC control software type stuff. IT might not even know about it. It might not be possible to install security patches while maintaining a valid support contract, or maybe fly-by-night-inc.com went out of business and there is no support of any type at all, at which time you pray it never breaks, and never ever touch it or change anything. IT might want you to upgrade from XP, but they're not offering a multi-million dollar capital budget to replace the entire HVAC system, and the new contractor is not going to just drop in a new controller because they know they have you over a barrel and can try to get you to spend $$$$$$$.
IF the windows box can in any way communicate with the outside world, that's how you evade the firewall. Seems obvious?
Not only just another windows box, but a windows box that cannot be upgraded without violating the extremely expensive software support contract. Seen this happen with numerically controlled machine tools, PBXs, some internet accessible "software as a service" type of apps, some weird embedded stuff I don't think I can talk about... the stereotype is if there is an expensive support contract, that machine is gonna get owned.
If down south someone gets straight to business this guy is just being rude and hiding information so you shouldn't trust him.
I spent a year in the south in the 90s and the reason is people see themselves as instruments of tradition. Historically mobility was low in the south, so a simple business transaction well become a lifetime economic marriage, so there's lots of courting going on. Your GGGgrandpa and his GGGgrandpa probably served in the same civil war regiment, and in fact there probably is a distant genealogically tenuous connection between you two assuming you're genuine southern natives. If nothing bad happens, your kids might very well be expected to continue the business transaction. Also there exists a massive gossip network such that you can assume everyone is all into your business, so if they truly don't know you, they will be mystified as to what you're up to simply due to curiosity. I heard some hilarious jokes that probably only make sense in the rural south about old forgetful people simply relying on their gossip hound neighbors to remind them of stuff, like a human peer to peer network. In the go go go north economic transactions are more of a one night stand or fling at most, so no one cares what church if any you attend, or what military unit you or your GGGgreatgrandpa served in. Its an article of faith amongst the southerners I knew that tradition and reputation (both individual and familial) are extremely valuable, they believe in that about as much as their church, more or less.
Northern business transactions are like a single hand of poker. Southern business transactions are like a multigenerational game of chess or Go. Before you freak out, obviously these stereotypes are only about 75% accurate.
...if people traveling from Russia or China to here are told the same thing?
1) Our security forces focus exclusively on taking peoples shoes off, punishing them for traveling by irradiating travelers, and molest traveling women and children. Definitely the laughingstock of the world's security and customs personnel.
2) Russia occasionally innovates something worth stealing (occasionally...) but China never innovates. Individual Chinese visit the US to go to research colleges etc and innovate, but nothing comes out of China worth stealing. Other than plots to put melamine in baby formula and lead paint on kids toys, can anyone think of anything they've done that the west wants that isn't just copying the west? Also what would we do with something we stole from them, outsource it right back to them anyway? Russia is corrupt enough that nothing happens there that isn't at least tangentially involved in organized crime, so if you stole a "whatever" from them, you can safely assume you'll and/or your family will end up dead, which is in some ways better than our IP system and in some ways worse.
What I'm getting at is when the phone is "freeeeeee" then you get the $600 phone instead of the $200 phone because why not, which thrills the mfgrs in China. When you have to pay for the phone, then its hard to justify paying 3 times as much to do almost the same thing, or I can find something much more fun to do with $400 than spend it on a phone, etc.
Having been a prepay guy in the US for a long time, I'm well aware of the "buy the phone, then the service" thing.
The USA is denser than Finland, Sweden, Iceland, Australia, Canada all places with superior wireless infrastructure.
I'm sad to say we are also "denser" than numerous 3rd world countrys, the sad part being they also have superior wireless infrastructure. Crazy, sad, but true.
You can pretty much look at that list and there's 178 countries that are denser, and about 80 that are less dense, and frankly most of them have better infrastructure than we do.
Yes as an anecdote I'm sure Hong Kong beats us for density and infrastructure, but how you explain the homeland of Nokia being far lower than usa?
I don't think the static pressure of an inch of blood is relevant compared to blood pressure. If a "typical BP" is around 100 mmHg and atmospheric pressure is around 750 mm Hg then your blood pours out around 1/7th an atmosphere delta. Now a 1 atm water column is a whoppin 30 something feet. A seventh that is around 4 or so feet. So if your buried beneath 4 feet of blood, then the pressure of the blood will have a substantial effect on flow rate. This would seem to imply that the pressure of the blood in your feet and head changes quite a bit laying down vs standing up. In fact, it does and there's lots of Fing around in your circulatory system to deal with it.
I think you Might be confusing square/cube issues. So the rate that blood pours out of a wound is a constant volume cube thing. So the rate that a puddle's radius/diameter expands on the floor declines at a cube root over time, roughly.
Then you'd have to listen to endless "damnit Jim, I'm a doctor not an engineer". Maybe if she's kinda hot in a milf-y way, but what if she has a pesky son on board... I suppose its inevitable, eventually.
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Then they can come right out and say that they wish to ban wifi because it has no use in the class or can be used to play around.
That's politically incorrect if someone important came out in public support in the recent past. This cannot be shut off without important heads rolling or at least being embarrassed. Therefore it cannot be shut off as long as the important heads remain in power. You have to wait for them to move up or out, then the new guy can come in, say "WTF is this idiocy" and shut it off. This behavior pattern is hardly limited to wifi deployments at schools...
3rd story is "The administration is being a PITA, so I'm going to retaliate."
I have relatives in the system, so I don't know if I'm skirting either a legal or cultural privacy violation, but I know of at least one situation where the union is fighting management with all they got up to and including RF exposure FUD because management and/or IT busted a teacher for unplugging an access point because kids were screwing around online instead of paying attention to her, and that results in trouble tickets and eventually trumped up accusations of "hacking IT hardware" or "intentional vandalism of school property" or however its exactly phrased. And accusations that she should have been "working harder" to police the kids, and countered with she should be able to control her classroom environment just as she's "permitted" by mgmt to control the room lights (oh how nice of them). Then add in the usual corruption, where a young hot single opposite sex of the principal teacher was not busted for doing the exact same thing, whereas the victim is, as you'd expect, the exact opposite demographic and was busted. And the race card has been released, also. Which is probably too much detail, perhaps pinpointing the exact legal case I'm talking about. So we'll stop there.
My electrical engineering response was that teacher was an idiot for playing with the connectors and cables, should have just wrapped the antenna in tinfoil or bought a wifi jammer off deal extreme or ebay.
Wifi is something that can be controlled... can be controlled in many ways, by many different people. Therefore a workplace with terminally poisonous control issues, is going to fight viciously over it as if its the most important thing to ever exist. Its like a hyper violent military battle over some ugly little plot of grassland... no one cares about the plot of land as merely a plot of land, its just an excuse for both sides to draw as much blood as possible.
If a teacher can't identify and punish people using their devices in class something is seriously wrong ... their class sizes are much to large
Hmm whats the cheapest way to solve this problem. Hire double the number of teachers which at current admin:teacher ratios means hiring double the number of admin personnel in addition, or ... unplug the wifi that serves little educational purpose anyway...
What about the safety of chairs, has that been thoroughly researched? No, and therefore the precautionary principle and prudent avoidance of exposure to sitting on your ass 6 hours a day should be practiced.
How about "for most of human evolutionary history, clothes have not been worn, and we know for a fact clothing spreads germs and head lice and athletes foot. Therefore we must think of the children and not allow the wearing of clothing in our schools. Heating bills will probably 'perk up' a bit, but..."
There's two stories here.
The 1st one is the exoteric "I'm scared of technology" FUD that frankly works pretty well.
The 2nd one is the esoteric and totally unpopular "I'm sick of kids playing angry birds in class" and "I'm sick of my boss (principal) and/or family and friends IMing me stupid distracting stuff while I'm trying to teach a class" and "I'm sick of the boss using this to track my every digital action and create utterly meaningless dilbertian machine generated metrics to evaluate me on instead of doing real human observation evals" and "I'm sick of square peg / round hole the silver bullet to all educational problems is just add more internet"
I send my kids to a recently wifi'd school and also have some teacher relatives and option 2 is the reason why they use option 1 as a weapon against wifi.
See, option 1 works and thats all they care about in a "ends justify the means" scenario. If blaming witchcraft or the spread of communism on wifi worked better, they'd be trying that angle instead.
Those who play primarily for being part of an interactive story, and those who play primarily for the gameplay mechanic.
Neither is better or worse---they just are.
This is almost as much fun as watching the hard science fiction and the soft science fiction types battle it out.
In such an instance, would it not have been better to tell that story in a film or book? That way you could enjoy the story without suffering the bad mechanics.
The dominant subculture has formed where they'd rather die than read a book, no matter how awful the movie. We may be blessed to be living in this era where we can watch a new subculture form, those who will only adsorb culture via video games.
Personally I think a GTA3 style version of the Old Testament would be kind of cool. Plenty of sex and violence. New Testament would be the obvious sequel. I'm thinking the "no images" thing is going to flare up for the Koran DLC package. Scientology done in a GTA3 style video game... Put a ring on it, that one's a keeper.
and civilization, and every hex based military strategy (my specialty) and every board and puzzle game (words w friends etc) Also every driving and flying game ever invented.
Imagine how simply awful Mario Kart would be if you had to sit thru 15 minute cutscenes full of plumber's helper jokes. super mario galaxy was ... pushing the limit a bit of what I can tolerate. Or the awfulness of trying to turn any of the Gran Turismo series into a really poor cinematic reinterpretation of "the fast and the furious"
gold, silver, coal, Minnesota rice... Admittedly the entire US rice crop is only about 5% of China's crop, but theres no reason not to make a package deal.
Steel/cast iron/aluminum and tungsten and copper work well too.
Bitcoin? Not as a store of value but as a trading/transfer system?
The euro is toast. Best case scenario is it becomes the neoDeutschmark, and thats not all that good of a case either.
No slide to unlock? Perhaps we should make a "place genitals here" unlock mechanism. At least that may not be patented yet.
Finally a use for that "embed an Arduino in womens clothing" idea that just won't go away and has mostly been used to implement flashing lights...
Who do you think has been supporting the mighty US empire with loans for the last few decades? Who does the US now owe more to than it could ever hope to pay back?
First order answer is nothing stops the mint from printing a single $100T bill, and declaring it paid off.
Second order answer is that messes up oil import costs. Once the M.E. is drained dry, or Iran closes the straits, or "whatever", then there is no further point in maintaining the charade. China gets a couple more years of interest payments, then they get something about as valuable as a box of confederate money.
Third order answer is we simply tell them "no". They can't even invade Taiwan... what are they realistically going to do to us, worst case scenario?
Now if we were dumb enough to issue bonds payable in Chinese currency, that would be a problem ... We are dumb, but not that dumb.
My apologies, by "never" I should have rephrased that as something much more restrictive like "never in the last 1000 years", because obviously that will be the decisive factor in modern corporate travel policy decisionmaking. I would imagine Chinese compass makers are very rightly at this moment quaking in their boots that we'll steal the new idea of magnetized iron needle compass intellectual property.
Doesn't sound like the old mercury switch round honeywell in my mother in laws house either.
If 90% of the websites say bad things about Santorum, and that's what 90% of the results show... where is the problem? We aren't allowed to have online activism now?
His support group has authoritarianism as a core value in their belief system. One of their core values is one authority should tell us all how to think, and they think that vile man would be a great choice... The idea that the beliefs of the majority should control what we think is ethically/morally/philosophically in direct opposition to their core beliefs. So... yeah the majority being disgusted with their vile messiah is exactly their problem. You are all supposed to submit in all ways to gods representative on earth, that vile man, as his supporters have already done so. Its not just a minor disagreement but a collision of philosophical outlooks.
I am thrilled that most people think Santorum is evil personified therefore they put up a website. In a less civilized culture, he would be shot, so I'm proud of "us" for behaving in a much more civilized manner and merely helping him turn himself into a laughingstock. The world would have been a much better place if instead of catching bullets, we instead had three websites: "jfk-sucks.com" "rfk-sucks.com" and "mlk-sucks.com". If Santorum gets his wish and reverses the progress of our civilization and reverts our civilization to past behaviors, he may regret it when he gets some 1960's era response instead of 2010's era response to his vile evil hatemongering.
Its just a windows box with PLC control software type stuff. IT might not even know about it. It might not be possible to install security patches while maintaining a valid support contract, or maybe fly-by-night-inc.com went out of business and there is no support of any type at all, at which time you pray it never breaks, and never ever touch it or change anything. IT might want you to upgrade from XP, but they're not offering a multi-million dollar capital budget to replace the entire HVAC system, and the new contractor is not going to just drop in a new controller because they know they have you over a barrel and can try to get you to spend $$$$$$$.
IF the windows box can in any way communicate with the outside world, that's how you evade the firewall. Seems obvious?
Not only just another windows box, but a windows box that cannot be upgraded without violating the extremely expensive software support contract. ... the stereotype is if there is an expensive support contract, that machine is gonna get owned.
Seen this happen with numerically controlled machine tools, PBXs, some internet accessible "software as a service" type of apps, some weird embedded stuff I don't think I can talk about
If down south someone gets straight to business this guy is just being rude and hiding information so you shouldn't trust him.
I spent a year in the south in the 90s and the reason is people see themselves as instruments of tradition. Historically mobility was low in the south, so a simple business transaction well become a lifetime economic marriage, so there's lots of courting going on. Your GGGgrandpa and his GGGgrandpa probably served in the same civil war regiment, and in fact there probably is a distant genealogically tenuous connection between you two assuming you're genuine southern natives. If nothing bad happens, your kids might very well be expected to continue the business transaction. Also there exists a massive gossip network such that you can assume everyone is all into your business, so if they truly don't know you, they will be mystified as to what you're up to simply due to curiosity. I heard some hilarious jokes that probably only make sense in the rural south about old forgetful people simply relying on their gossip hound neighbors to remind them of stuff, like a human peer to peer network. In the go go go north economic transactions are more of a one night stand or fling at most, so no one cares what church if any you attend, or what military unit you or your GGGgreatgrandpa served in. Its an article of faith amongst the southerners I knew that tradition and reputation (both individual and familial) are extremely valuable, they believe in that about as much as their church, more or less.
Northern business transactions are like a single hand of poker. Southern business transactions are like a multigenerational game of chess or Go. Before you freak out, obviously these stereotypes are only about 75% accurate.
...if people traveling from Russia or China to here are told the same thing?
1) Our security forces focus exclusively on taking peoples shoes off, punishing them for traveling by irradiating travelers, and molest traveling women and children. Definitely the laughingstock of the world's security and customs personnel.
2) Russia occasionally innovates something worth stealing (occasionally...) but China never innovates. Individual Chinese visit the US to go to research colleges etc and innovate, but nothing comes out of China worth stealing. Other than plots to put melamine in baby formula and lead paint on kids toys, can anyone think of anything they've done that the west wants that isn't just copying the west? Also what would we do with something we stole from them, outsource it right back to them anyway? Russia is corrupt enough that nothing happens there that isn't at least tangentially involved in organized crime, so if you stole a "whatever" from them, you can safely assume you'll and/or your family will end up dead, which is in some ways better than our IP system and in some ways worse.
Does anyone have suggestions
Oh no, not another "ask a lawyer" question.
As a general rule, this is mostly unenforceable and/or is trivially worked around.
What I'm getting at is when the phone is "freeeeeee" then you get the $600 phone instead of the $200 phone because why not, which thrills the mfgrs in China.
When you have to pay for the phone, then its hard to justify paying 3 times as much to do almost the same thing, or I can find something much more fun to do with $400 than spend it on a phone, etc.
Having been a prepay guy in the US for a long time, I'm well aware of the "buy the phone, then the service" thing.
You know that "let me fing google it for you" site, we need one for wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and_dependent_territories_by_population_density
The USA is denser than Finland, Sweden, Iceland, Australia, Canada all places with superior wireless infrastructure.
I'm sad to say we are also "denser" than numerous 3rd world countrys, the sad part being they also have superior wireless infrastructure. Crazy, sad, but true.
You can pretty much look at that list and there's 178 countries that are denser, and about 80 that are less dense, and frankly most of them have better infrastructure than we do.
Yes as an anecdote I'm sure Hong Kong beats us for density and infrastructure, but how you explain the homeland of Nokia being far lower than usa?
I don't think the static pressure of an inch of blood is relevant compared to blood pressure. If a "typical BP" is around 100 mmHg and atmospheric pressure is around 750 mm Hg then your blood pours out around 1/7th an atmosphere delta. Now a 1 atm water column is a whoppin 30 something feet. A seventh that is around 4 or so feet. So if your buried beneath 4 feet of blood, then the pressure of the blood will have a substantial effect on flow rate. This would seem to imply that the pressure of the blood in your feet and head changes quite a bit laying down vs standing up. In fact, it does and there's lots of Fing around in your circulatory system to deal with it.
I think you Might be confusing square/cube issues. So the rate that blood pours out of a wound is a constant volume cube thing. So the rate that a puddle's radius/diameter expands on the floor declines at a cube root over time, roughly.
Biologist botanist sociologist.. all would probably fit pretty well.
There must be someone out there who graduated with a BSEE or BS in geology and later went on to medical school to become a surgeon.
It would be entertaining if it exhibited pack behavior. 30 or 40 of them running around together would be pretty interesting to see.
Then you'd have to listen to endless "damnit Jim, I'm a doctor not an engineer". Maybe if she's kinda hot in a milf-y way, but what if she has a pesky son on board... I suppose its inevitable, eventually.