To eat junk food "day to day" as quoted, Doritos takes care of exactly one day out of the year. You still need somewhere around 300 brands for the rest of the year. There are probably less than a tenth of that, at least with any appreciable market share...
(inc. Doritos, which are my favorite)
As a fellow doritos fan, I would argue they are the most popular of "bagged junk foods" with lower market share for everything else I'm thinking you'll need more like 400 other brands to explain widespread obesity.
Drat that means I'll only get insurance coverage for the generic version. Speaking of which, what is the generic version of this? Angry Birds? First Person Shooter copycat number 2526? Farmville?
If a game can have a medically recognisable affect, it falls under the purview of those who would regulate your private activities
Most of that crowd is blindly power hungry. Go for common cause with the jocks. Obviously jogging and treadmills have a medical effect and making tennis shoes prescription only or requiring a license to purchase a treadmill will not go over well.
I had to read the summary about 3 times before I noticed it was GAME not GENE.
GENE would be a way more interesting/. story.
I'm mystified why a therapeutic game is noteworthy to anyone who have ever had occupational therapy or knows anyone who ever took OT...
Admittedly the OT games I'm familiar with were mostly pretty lame, like, "you took 5 steps last time, now try for 6" but I've heard of some that got pretty elaborate.
The fact that this one is mental not physical seems irrelevant to me. If my sister in law does repetitive addition drills using a video game, thats called "being a modern teacher". If a doc re-teaches addition to a stroke victim using the same game, thats not noteworthy.
I learned a lot from playing hex-based military sims when I was a kid... patience, planning, delayed gratification, concentration, cooperation, how to judge competitors, "good sportsmanship"... Other games would have worked just as well, but I love hex based military sims. Sometimes I think I personally keep matrixgames.com in business... Having a dr prescribe the same games to a kid with poor impulse control would not exactly be the most insightful thing ever.
Which grains are fit for human consumption, oh great fount of wisdom?
Absolutely none. Its a paleo-diet fundamentalist position. That doesn't mean you should never eat them, just avoid them as much as possible. A special treat is OK, as long as you don't have "special treats" every day...
My ancestors did not eat genetically engineered factory farmed grains for 4.5 billion years, and were pretty darn successful.
Then, depending on the grain and famines, etc, they "recently" started shoveling down grains like water and now they all die of diabetes and liver cancer and heart disease.
Depending on what games you wanna play, like looking at reproductive ability vs stomach anatomy vs digestive chemistry, assuming you believe in evolution instead of fundamentalist christian theology, at least 99.99% of my ancestors ate mostly fruits and veg with a modest quantity of meat (dental changes show cooking is required now, which conveniently prevents numerous digestive diseases, so I cook). I am not going to argue with tradition, probably 6 out of 7 meals I eat is something like a big salad, a modest chunk of cooked meat, and some fruit for desert. Note theres about a million ways to prepare this general class of food, from formal steakhouse dinner (minus the garlic bread) to stir fry to sunday roast to stews to last night I had a spinach salad with an ounce or two of roasted chicken with some pecans tossed on top and an assortment of veg mixed in, and about half an orange for desert (and it was a really tasty meal)...
The fundamentalist christian types try to tell me I must eat wheat because the bible told them to, and the farmers etc have paid the government, to tell me to eat wheat, corn, etc. Um, thanks, but no thanks.
I'd be really impressed with your cooking skills if that got you anything other than a steaming bag of soggy corn chips and maybe a damaged microwave.
You know what makes an absolutely killer topping on top of mac n cheese? Like blow you away amazing flavor? Smashed nacho cheese Doritos, that's what. The key to eating fattening unhealthy stuff like pasta / cheese / doritos is its a special slow cooked winter snack, eaten in reasonable small portions, maybe as a side dish, not every freaking day at lunch, not eat more and more until you feel like you need the vomitorium.
They also make a weirdly tasty replacement for cornmeal for breaded fish. Plenty of seasoning in there, after all. Again, unless you wanna die, deep fried fish is a special snack, not a weekly bacchanalian feast.
Also crumbled up and tossed on a salad, they bring some serious flavor. More than most croutons, anyway.
People would think you're a lunatic if you drank ketchup like it was beer. I look at doritos the same way... yummy flavored cornmeal goodness as a condiment or flavoring, not as the primary source of calories in a meal.
A bag of doritos in my house when growing up, was a rare occurance....maybe for a special weekend if we were going to grill out burgers or the like. It cerainly wasn't day-to-day food.
Everyone I personally know still treats them the same way today. Maybe I'm out of touch, or maybe you're imagining the problem is bigger than it really is.
I checked the wikipedia and they typically sell around half a billion bucks worth of doritos per year in the USA. The vending machine in the basement sells a little lunch size snack for about a buck. There are about half a billion americans, plus or minus a heck of a lot of illegals. So the average american eats about one snack sized bag per year, or with an order of magnitude anyway. Supposedly that one annual bag is why one third of us are "fat" now. I'm thinking, no. Even assuming that only the fatties eat them and the skinnies never eat them, thats still only 3 snack bags per fatty per year.
I think this much like the widely quoted claim that the average american watches 8 hours of TV per day. Yeah, OK, whatever, its a gullibility test, nothing more.
But I'm a bit mad now...this guy contributed to the crap food we in the US eat on a regular basis. Highly processed foods, with no nutrition....contributing to the high obesity rate we see out there today.
Please reread the original article
age 97
Yeah I know, anecdote is not data, etc. But your rant is not gonna sit well about a dead nearly centurian. Sure, no corn and he might have lived to 110, but I think 97 is pretty good... If I "only" make it to 97 I'll be pretty happy. Pissed that I didn't make it to 98, but still pretty happy.
Also your rant is nonsense, regardless if corn and its byproducts are healthy, if it were not nutritious it would not make farm animals and people fat.
The final nonsense of your rant is the dorito was invented in 1964, about 40 years before widebodies started beaching themselves at the local walmart. I'm just guessing here, but I don't think it's the doritos.
non-nutritious would be stuff like sawdust, non-digestible fiber, cellulose plants in general...
I think you're confusing nutritious with good, just like some clowns confuse "natural" or "organic" with good.
In summary, I agree with you that corn and corn byproducts are not good for anything but fattening up cows and pigs before slaughter, so I try to eat as little corn and corn byproducts as possible. But your arguments are incredibly counter productive.
I'm thinking that Maxwell's demon and his future twin would also be able to wreck thermodynamics with this
Classical maxwells demon ran at sonic speeds... c variation won't matter. A modern interpretation of maxwells demon might be light based... random blackbody radiation gets categorized by opening and closing a shutter based on what a detector in front of the shutter sees. Although I'm not sure why that would require superluminal neutrinos since you could use a glass moderator between the detector and shutter, and run the control wires outside of the glass.
This would make an interesting arc welders helmet... LCD behind the viewport blanks the window before the light actually passes thru the view port glass. Hmm.
In the end the rod is an electromagnetic construction itself. It doesn't matter how rigid it is to you.
An interesting side effect of a very long rod and the speed of sound vs the speed of gravity and light, is the effect it has in directionality of a simple type of gravitational antenna. To get a nice strong gravitational wave signal out of an "infinitely" long rod, not only do you need to point it perfectly, you have to curve it to match the wavefront of the expected gravitational wave, or else you just get a jumbled up mess at the transducer. Of course if you had multiple transducers and did lots of math...
Well, I don't have a degree in physics, but I've read some books by the intellectually dreamy pop-physics icons Brian Greene, Neil Degrasse Tyson, and Michio Kaku, so I guess I have better qualifications than you.
Following the logic of the above scholars, I predict that c is not less than 0.03% faster than light, but that we have now discovered how to travel back in time! I have lots of other untestable theories about this discovery and am appalled that I haven't heard more predictions about all the amazing implications this discovery is going to have for humans in the future!
More likely neutrinos are created earlier than the scientists think. Maybe instead of squirting out after a collision is "all done" they squirt out at the instant of contact like a spallation thing. Maybe even at a location before contact, like a fraction of a wavelength apart or a planck length apart before contact. If that were the case, what common real world physics would be destroyed... Anything?
Multiple coordinated transmitters with multiple distance coordinated receivers would either prove or devastate my theory rather quickly. Trying to build something very much like a neutrino based LORAN system might as a side effect provide useful info to the geophysicists.
The only handle that makes me think there's a slim chance there might be something real here is that we are WAY outside the normally experienced velocities for massive particles. We're talking about a 2eV rest mass with a KE in the 17GeV range. Therefore we could be seeing new physics while still having relativity as a very good approximation for everything we've had so far much like relativity was a small correction to newtonian mechanics.
Tim.
Also you've shoving a particle around the speed of light thru a simply amazing amount of material. I was going to say we've never done a lab of shining light thru hundreds of miles of rock, but we have shined light thru hundreds of miles of optical fiber... maybe there is an opportunity to "do something weird" with some dark fiber and some lasers and detectors...
May also be gravitational, having to pass thru layers of varying gravitational acceleration. The neutrinos detected went on a chord thru the earth, not a constant radius at the surface... Although again, we've certainly shined light thru planetary atmospheres before. Maybe there's the opportunity to do something weird with a jupiter orbiting space probe, although you can forget doing VHF band and below radio near Jupiter, which may be why we never saw something weird.
Ahh, the old subatomic ether thing. Look up michelson-morley interferometer experiment that lead to all that relativity stuff...
That's not what LeDopore said. He said that it might be incorrect to treat space as a true vacuum, in other words that all the matter in between lowers the effective speed of light to a value sufficiently lower than c to cause the observed results (much as glass lowers it measurably).
I agree with the rest.
I think you've got me there. I was thinking that "space" as in outer space can't have a 300 ppm shift because that would totally ruin the supposedly good observations of supernova neutrinos arriving around when the light gets here, more or less. Since its an effect apparently produced by either by passage thru rocks or gravity fields I got off track on ye olde subatomic ether.
Particles traveling FTL might make it necessary to redefine the laws of thermodynamics slightly.)
Do you have anything other than a W.A.G. or am I missing something? The best argument I can come up with is maxwells demon pretty much needs to operate supersonically, using some kind of electrical design doesn't help, so operating faster than c wouldn't "help" because c is already a zillion mach number so a couple ppm more won't change the result. Everything else in the thermodynamics laws operates subsonic, way less than c...
I do respect that an unknown cause could also have a theoretical effect on thermodynamics (smaller than we've ever been able to measure in a lab), in addition to the speedy neutrino effect.
Hey J.K. have you run into a law relating battery capacity (either per Kg or L) vs proc speed over time? I bet there is some kind of interesting curve for mobile devices. Or, maybe not, donno thats why I'm asking a guy with previous success at data analysis in a closely related field...
OK J.K here is the list of moral / ethical arguments about the path we're on, as seen in your law. You saw the path clearly enough to define a time based law. Are there any issues I'm not seeing on our current path?
1) Lower energy consumption at point of use 2) Higher energy consumption at manufacturing point 3) faster cpu = bigger programs = more bugs = lower quality of life 4) faster cpu = stronger DRM possibilities 5) Better processing * battery life = better medical devices 6) Better processing * battery life = better 1984 style totalitarian devices 7) Lower energy consumption = less air conditioning demand = decreasing average lattitude of data centers = population shifts or whatever or something? 8) More money required for both hw and sw development = good for big corps and bad for the little guy
What kind of technology and materials would we need to get the giant Fermilab etc. down from square kilometres down to square metres or even inches? Would cheap fusion energy, or room-temperature super-conductors, or limitless supplies of carbon nanotubes/diamond/graphene help reach that particular goal?
A limitless supply of gold would seem to be prerequisite.
Seriously though the killer is cubed squared law problems. Dump a few megawatts into a few hundred square megameters of "stuff" and it scarcely gets above room temperature. Dump a few watts into a few square cm and you have whats known as a "soldering iron"... Of course with infinite money I suppose you could develop a semiconductor industry designed around a thousand degree operating temperature, with all new substrates and dopants and packaging... or you could go 100% nanoscale vacuum tube computing
What we think of as vacuum could really be a medium with refractive index 1.0003
Ahh, the old subatomic ether thing. Look up michelson-morley interferometer experiment that lead to all that relativity stuff... At 300 ppm, that effect, if it existed, would prevent most interesting interferometer technology from existing. No FFT-IR spectroscopy, most inertial navigation systems would be too drifty to use, astrophysicists would not be able to do the interferometer thing using multiple scopes...
The other problem is we've verified E=mc2 and time dilation to much better than 300 ppm both of which depend on c.
Also, its expensive, and a bit beyond my basement, but your average RF engineer can build stuff to better than 300 ppm on first principles.
Then you start offending the chemists. I have to think about it a bit, but wouldn't this screw up quite a bit of chemistry (and physics) related to ferromagnetic materials? And the NMR scanners wouldn't work right, or at least how they work would depend on the phase of the moon, from memory 300 ppm is a pretty huge shift.
Who would notice a change in c is an interesting thought experiment.
If they succeed in recreating the measurements, doesn't it just mean that c was set at too low a value, and that the true speed to light in a vacuum is slightly faster than originally thought?
c is not a fundamental value, its a function of the permeability and permittivity of either empty space or some dielectric (something like inside a piece of coaxial cable, etc). Or rephrased, you are arguing the impedance of free space is wrong, and generations of antenna and RF engineers would disagree with you. Also c shows up in energy mass equivalance e=mc2 and all that which seems quite accurate. And in time dilation experiments it seems to work quite well. Astrophysics "stuff" thats far away seems to confirm that neutrinos do not exceed light speed in vacuum; this test involved blasting thru rock instead of vacuum so that is no huge problem; theres a long history of shoving light thru materials results in weird behavior. Given how many decimal places that kind of stuff has been verified, more than this result which was only 6 sigma or whatever, I'm thinking fundamental constant fine tuning is awful unlikely.
In summary, either its wrong (which seems unlikely given all the verification they did) or its new physics. Simply tuning up the known constants is just not gonna work.
To fit other, higher precision experiments, its gotta boil down to something like the logical inverse of the light refraction law, where light slows down in certain materials (like, say, glass) resulting in refraction and timing issues (like pulse dispersion in optical fiber). The analogy is maybe neutrinos "speed up" when rammed thru solid rock due to some strange property of rocks, or floating about in a rock-produced gravity well, or something like that.
I can totally see how previous subatomic experiments would miss the neutrino effect; after all its hard to shove gammas or plain ole light quanta thru a couple zillion KM of solid rock... Its too technologically hard to do, until trying out the neutrinos...
A good example of how F-ing around in the lab doing blue sky stuff simply because you can, is the primary source of interesting ideas.
"I know has a ton of unfilled developer positions because we can't find the quality we're looking for, at the pay rate we want to offer."
I fixed that for you. there are PLENTY of high quality programmers without jobs in the USA right now, your Cheap ass boss want to pay $42,000 a year instead of $67,000-$80,000 and thus you only get resumes from new grads or low skilled workers.
Hell I changed career tracks because of that bullshit. DB admin and programmer pay dropped significantly, Bite me. I changed to embedded programming and maintained my pay rate.
The other scheme is the boss wants to put his son in the position so the requirements are tailored to insane levels (must have precisely 7.2 months experience with version 5.10.1 of Perl, not over 7.3 months not under 7.1 months, doing internet development on a LAN using 10/8 addressing scheme not any other, etc).
Also H1B requirements necessitate advertising for a carefully crafted unfillable position. I have the inside scoop and locally there is a printing company advertising for a CCIE network guy, an electric utility "looking for" a DBA for over 2 years now. If by some miracle either an applicant is incredibly lucky or is just a liar, HR will say anything to make sure the applicant can't be hired, because that is the goal, keep the H1B guy in his job. "Sorry, I know your CCIE tested you on OSPF and BGP, but your last job was BGP support and this job primarily is doing OSPF support so you'll never fit in" that type of idiocy.
This American differentiation between IT and CS just confuses me...
Its pretty simple, the CS guys do creative work / design work and decide what everyone from raw users to IT guys will do (usually decided indirectly via design decisions).
The IT people do nothing creative at all, or at least as much as possible, and "designing" is limited to applying other peoples very large building blocks, or non-customer facing (like "design" where the conduit for the cat-5 cables will run in the data center that only a dozen people have physical access to)
Get yourself into a nice safe government job plugging in machines made in China, don't start on a career which will relatively soon (two decades, i.e. half way through your working life) be done exclusively in India, Malaysia, China and wherever else looks the cheapest this quarter.
But can you pay your student loans at $8/hr? Admittedly after a couple years some of the guys in the crew were making $12/hr. Union scale electricians also pull cable, and at one point the standard union rate was around $30/hr, but the illegal alien invasion is taking that down a notch or two. If you're going to pull cable and terminate to connectors, do it at 120 volts for $30/hr, not 100 megs/sec at $8/hr.
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To eat junk food "day to day" as quoted, Doritos takes care of exactly one day out of the year. You still need somewhere around 300 brands for the rest of the year. There are probably less than a tenth of that, at least with any appreciable market share...
(inc. Doritos, which are my favorite)
As a fellow doritos fan, I would argue they are the most popular of "bagged junk foods" with lower market share for everything else I'm thinking you'll need more like 400 other brands to explain widespread obesity.
get its game recognized as a therapeutic drug.
Drat that means I'll only get insurance coverage for the generic version. Speaking of which, what is the generic version of this? Angry Birds? First Person Shooter copycat number 2526? Farmville?
If a game can have a medically recognisable affect, it falls under the purview of those who would regulate your private activities
Most of that crowd is blindly power hungry. Go for common cause with the jocks. Obviously jogging and treadmills have a medical effect and making tennis shoes prescription only or requiring a license to purchase a treadmill will not go over well.
I had to read the summary about 3 times before I noticed it was GAME not GENE.
GENE would be a way more interesting /. story.
I'm mystified why a therapeutic game is noteworthy to anyone who have ever had occupational therapy or knows anyone who ever took OT...
Admittedly the OT games I'm familiar with were mostly pretty lame, like, "you took 5 steps last time, now try for 6" but I've heard of some that got pretty elaborate.
The fact that this one is mental not physical seems irrelevant to me. If my sister in law does repetitive addition drills using a video game, thats called "being a modern teacher". If a doc re-teaches addition to a stroke victim using the same game, thats not noteworthy.
I learned a lot from playing hex-based military sims when I was a kid... patience, planning, delayed gratification, concentration, cooperation, how to judge competitors, "good sportsmanship"... Other games would have worked just as well, but I love hex based military sims. Sometimes I think I personally keep matrixgames.com in business... Having a dr prescribe the same games to a kid with poor impulse control would not exactly be the most insightful thing ever.
Which grains are fit for human consumption, oh great fount of wisdom?
Absolutely none. Its a paleo-diet fundamentalist position. That doesn't mean you should never eat them, just avoid them as much as possible. A special treat is OK, as long as you don't have "special treats" every day...
My ancestors did not eat genetically engineered factory farmed grains for 4.5 billion years, and were pretty darn successful.
Then, depending on the grain and famines, etc, they "recently" started shoveling down grains like water and now they all die of diabetes and liver cancer and heart disease.
Depending on what games you wanna play, like looking at reproductive ability vs stomach anatomy vs digestive chemistry, assuming you believe in evolution instead of fundamentalist christian theology, at least 99.99% of my ancestors ate mostly fruits and veg with a modest quantity of meat (dental changes show cooking is required now, which conveniently prevents numerous digestive diseases, so I cook). I am not going to argue with tradition, probably 6 out of 7 meals I eat is something like a big salad, a modest chunk of cooked meat, and some fruit for desert. Note theres about a million ways to prepare this general class of food, from formal steakhouse dinner (minus the garlic bread) to stir fry to sunday roast to stews to last night I had a spinach salad with an ounce or two of roasted chicken with some pecans tossed on top and an assortment of veg mixed in, and about half an orange for desert (and it was a really tasty meal) ...
The fundamentalist christian types try to tell me I must eat wheat because the bible told them to, and the farmers etc have paid the government, to tell me to eat wheat, corn, etc. Um, thanks, but no thanks.
I'd be really impressed with your cooking skills if that got you anything other than a steaming bag of soggy corn chips and maybe a damaged microwave.
You know what makes an absolutely killer topping on top of mac n cheese? Like blow you away amazing flavor? Smashed nacho cheese Doritos, that's what. The key to eating fattening unhealthy stuff like pasta / cheese / doritos is its a special slow cooked winter snack, eaten in reasonable small portions, maybe as a side dish, not every freaking day at lunch, not eat more and more until you feel like you need the vomitorium.
They also make a weirdly tasty replacement for cornmeal for breaded fish. Plenty of seasoning in there, after all. Again, unless you wanna die, deep fried fish is a special snack, not a weekly bacchanalian feast.
Also crumbled up and tossed on a salad, they bring some serious flavor. More than most croutons, anyway.
People would think you're a lunatic if you drank ketchup like it was beer. I look at doritos the same way... yummy flavored cornmeal goodness as a condiment or flavoring, not as the primary source of calories in a meal.
A bag of doritos in my house when growing up, was a rare occurance....maybe for a special weekend if we were going to grill out burgers or the like. It cerainly wasn't day-to-day food.
Everyone I personally know still treats them the same way today. Maybe I'm out of touch, or maybe you're imagining the problem is bigger than it really is.
I checked the wikipedia and they typically sell around half a billion bucks worth of doritos per year in the USA. The vending machine in the basement sells a little lunch size snack for about a buck. There are about half a billion americans, plus or minus a heck of a lot of illegals. So the average american eats about one snack sized bag per year, or with an order of magnitude anyway. Supposedly that one annual bag is why one third of us are "fat" now. I'm thinking, no. Even assuming that only the fatties eat them and the skinnies never eat them, thats still only 3 snack bags per fatty per year.
I think this much like the widely quoted claim that the average american watches 8 hours of TV per day. Yeah, OK, whatever, its a gullibility test, nothing more.
But I'm a bit mad now...this guy contributed to the crap food we in the US eat on a regular basis. Highly processed foods, with no nutrition....contributing to the high obesity rate we see out there today.
Please reread the original article
age 97
Yeah I know, anecdote is not data, etc. But your rant is not gonna sit well about a dead nearly centurian. Sure, no corn and he might have lived to 110, but I think 97 is pretty good... If I "only" make it to 97 I'll be pretty happy. Pissed that I didn't make it to 98, but still pretty happy.
Also your rant is nonsense, regardless if corn and its byproducts are healthy, if it were not nutritious it would not make farm animals and people fat.
The final nonsense of your rant is the dorito was invented in 1964, about 40 years before widebodies started beaching themselves at the local walmart. I'm just guessing here, but I don't think it's the doritos.
non-nutritious would be stuff like sawdust, non-digestible fiber, cellulose plants in general...
I think you're confusing nutritious with good, just like some clowns confuse "natural" or "organic" with good.
In summary, I agree with you that corn and corn byproducts are not good for anything but fattening up cows and pigs before slaughter, so I try to eat as little corn and corn byproducts as possible. But your arguments are incredibly counter productive.
Maybe he knows more about their maintenance department than he's willing to semi-publicly state.
A brand new composite is about as trustworthy as a brand new metal component.
After 20 years of good maintenance, I'd trust them both about equally.
After 20 years of neglect, I'd trust a metal component rather than composite. People have been beating the heck out of metal for longer than plastic.
I'm thinking that Maxwell's demon and his future twin would also be able to wreck thermodynamics with this
Classical maxwells demon ran at sonic speeds... c variation won't matter. A modern interpretation of maxwells demon might be light based... random blackbody radiation gets categorized by opening and closing a shutter based on what a detector in front of the shutter sees. Although I'm not sure why that would require superluminal neutrinos since you could use a glass moderator between the detector and shutter, and run the control wires outside of the glass.
This would make an interesting arc welders helmet... LCD behind the viewport blanks the window before the light actually passes thru the view port glass. Hmm.
In the end the rod is an electromagnetic construction itself. It doesn't matter how rigid it is to you.
An interesting side effect of a very long rod and the speed of sound vs the speed of gravity and light, is the effect it has in directionality of a simple type of gravitational antenna. To get a nice strong gravitational wave signal out of an "infinitely" long rod, not only do you need to point it perfectly, you have to curve it to match the wavefront of the expected gravitational wave, or else you just get a jumbled up mess at the transducer. Of course if you had multiple transducers and did lots of math...
Well, I don't have a degree in physics, but I've read some books by the intellectually dreamy pop-physics icons Brian Greene, Neil Degrasse Tyson, and Michio Kaku, so I guess I have better qualifications than you.
Following the logic of the above scholars, I predict that c is not less than 0.03% faster than light, but that we have now discovered how to travel back in time! I have lots of other untestable theories about this discovery and am appalled that I haven't heard more predictions about all the amazing implications this discovery is going to have for humans in the future!
More likely neutrinos are created earlier than the scientists think. Maybe instead of squirting out after a collision is "all done" they squirt out at the instant of contact like a spallation thing. Maybe even at a location before contact, like a fraction of a wavelength apart or a planck length apart before contact. If that were the case, what common real world physics would be destroyed... Anything?
Multiple coordinated transmitters with multiple distance coordinated receivers would either prove or devastate my theory rather quickly. Trying to build something very much like a neutrino based LORAN system might as a side effect provide useful info to the geophysicists.
The only handle that makes me think there's a slim chance there might be something real here is that we are WAY outside the normally experienced velocities for massive particles. We're talking about a 2eV rest mass with a KE in the 17GeV range. Therefore we could be seeing new physics while still having relativity as a very good approximation for everything we've had so far much like relativity was a small correction to newtonian mechanics.
Tim.
Also you've shoving a particle around the speed of light thru a simply amazing amount of material. I was going to say we've never done a lab of shining light thru hundreds of miles of rock, but we have shined light thru hundreds of miles of optical fiber... maybe there is an opportunity to "do something weird" with some dark fiber and some lasers and detectors...
May also be gravitational, having to pass thru layers of varying gravitational acceleration. The neutrinos detected went on a chord thru the earth, not a constant radius at the surface... Although again, we've certainly shined light thru planetary atmospheres before. Maybe there's the opportunity to do something weird with a jupiter orbiting space probe, although you can forget doing VHF band and below radio near Jupiter, which may be why we never saw something weird.
Ahh, the old subatomic ether thing. Look up michelson-morley interferometer experiment that lead to all that relativity stuff...
That's not what LeDopore said. He said that it might be incorrect to treat space as a true vacuum, in other words that all the matter in between lowers the effective speed of light to a value sufficiently lower than c to cause the observed results (much as glass lowers it measurably).
I agree with the rest.
I think you've got me there. I was thinking that "space" as in outer space can't have a 300 ppm shift because that would totally ruin the supposedly good observations of supernova neutrinos arriving around when the light gets here, more or less. Since its an effect apparently produced by either by passage thru rocks or gravity fields I got off track on ye olde subatomic ether.
Particles traveling FTL might make it necessary to redefine the laws of thermodynamics slightly.)
Do you have anything other than a W.A.G. or am I missing something? The best argument I can come up with is maxwells demon pretty much needs to operate supersonically, using some kind of electrical design doesn't help, so operating faster than c wouldn't "help" because c is already a zillion mach number so a couple ppm more won't change the result. Everything else in the thermodynamics laws operates subsonic, way less than c...
I do respect that an unknown cause could also have a theoretical effect on thermodynamics (smaller than we've ever been able to measure in a lab), in addition to the speedy neutrino effect.
Hey J.K. have you run into a law relating battery capacity (either per Kg or L) vs proc speed over time? I bet there is some kind of interesting curve for mobile devices. Or, maybe not, donno thats why I'm asking a guy with previous success at data analysis in a closely related field...
OK J.K here is the list of moral / ethical arguments about the path we're on, as seen in your law. You saw the path clearly enough to define a time based law. Are there any issues I'm not seeing on our current path?
1) Lower energy consumption at point of use
2) Higher energy consumption at manufacturing point
3) faster cpu = bigger programs = more bugs = lower quality of life
4) faster cpu = stronger DRM possibilities
5) Better processing * battery life = better medical devices
6) Better processing * battery life = better 1984 style totalitarian devices
7) Lower energy consumption = less air conditioning demand = decreasing average lattitude of data centers = population shifts or whatever or something?
8) More money required for both hw and sw development = good for big corps and bad for the little guy
Random question:
What kind of technology and materials would we need to get the giant Fermilab etc. down from square kilometres down to square metres or even inches? Would cheap fusion energy, or room-temperature super-conductors, or limitless supplies of carbon nanotubes/diamond/graphene help reach that particular goal?
A limitless supply of gold would seem to be prerequisite.
Seriously though the killer is cubed squared law problems. Dump a few megawatts into a few hundred square megameters of "stuff" and it scarcely gets above room temperature. Dump a few watts into a few square cm and you have whats known as a "soldering iron"... Of course with infinite money I suppose you could develop a semiconductor industry designed around a thousand degree operating temperature, with all new substrates and dopants and packaging... or you could go 100% nanoscale vacuum tube computing
What we think of as vacuum could really be a medium with refractive index 1.0003
Ahh, the old subatomic ether thing. Look up michelson-morley interferometer experiment that lead to all that relativity stuff... At 300 ppm, that effect, if it existed, would prevent most interesting interferometer technology from existing. No FFT-IR spectroscopy, most inertial navigation systems would be too drifty to use, astrophysicists would not be able to do the interferometer thing using multiple scopes...
The other problem is we've verified E=mc2 and time dilation to much better than 300 ppm both of which depend on c.
Also, its expensive, and a bit beyond my basement, but your average RF engineer can build stuff to better than 300 ppm on first principles.
Then you start offending the chemists. I have to think about it a bit, but wouldn't this screw up quite a bit of chemistry (and physics) related to ferromagnetic materials? And the NMR scanners wouldn't work right, or at least how they work would depend on the phase of the moon, from memory 300 ppm is a pretty huge shift.
Who would notice a change in c is an interesting thought experiment.
If they succeed in recreating the measurements, doesn't it just mean that c was set at too low a value, and that the true speed to light in a vacuum is slightly faster than originally thought?
c is not a fundamental value, its a function of the permeability and permittivity of either empty space or some dielectric (something like inside a piece of coaxial cable, etc). Or rephrased, you are arguing the impedance of free space is wrong, and generations of antenna and RF engineers would disagree with you. Also c shows up in energy mass equivalance e=mc2 and all that which seems quite accurate. And in time dilation experiments it seems to work quite well. Astrophysics "stuff" thats far away seems to confirm that neutrinos do not exceed light speed in vacuum; this test involved blasting thru rock instead of vacuum so that is no huge problem; theres a long history of shoving light thru materials results in weird behavior. Given how many decimal places that kind of stuff has been verified, more than this result which was only 6 sigma or whatever, I'm thinking fundamental constant fine tuning is awful unlikely.
In summary, either its wrong (which seems unlikely given all the verification they did) or its new physics. Simply tuning up the known constants is just not gonna work.
To fit other, higher precision experiments, its gotta boil down to something like the logical inverse of the light refraction law, where light slows down in certain materials (like, say, glass) resulting in refraction and timing issues (like pulse dispersion in optical fiber). The analogy is maybe neutrinos "speed up" when rammed thru solid rock due to some strange property of rocks, or floating about in a rock-produced gravity well, or something like that.
I can totally see how previous subatomic experiments would miss the neutrino effect; after all its hard to shove gammas or plain ole light quanta thru a couple zillion KM of solid rock... Its too technologically hard to do, until trying out the neutrinos...
A good example of how F-ing around in the lab doing blue sky stuff simply because you can, is the primary source of interesting ideas.
"I know has a ton of unfilled developer positions because we can't find the quality we're looking for, at the pay rate we want to offer."
I fixed that for you. there are PLENTY of high quality programmers without jobs in the USA right now, your Cheap ass boss want to pay $42,000 a year instead of $67,000-$80,000 and thus you only get resumes from new grads or low skilled workers.
Hell I changed career tracks because of that bullshit. DB admin and programmer pay dropped significantly, Bite me. I changed to embedded programming and maintained my pay rate.
The other scheme is the boss wants to put his son in the position so the requirements are tailored to insane levels (must have precisely 7.2 months experience with version 5.10.1 of Perl, not over 7.3 months not under 7.1 months, doing internet development on a LAN using 10/8 addressing scheme not any other, etc).
Also H1B requirements necessitate advertising for a carefully crafted unfillable position. I have the inside scoop and locally there is a printing company advertising for a CCIE network guy, an electric utility "looking for" a DBA for over 2 years now. If by some miracle either an applicant is incredibly lucky or is just a liar, HR will say anything to make sure the applicant can't be hired, because that is the goal, keep the H1B guy in his job. "Sorry, I know your CCIE tested you on OSPF and BGP, but your last job was BGP support and this job primarily is doing OSPF support so you'll never fit in" that type of idiocy.
The IT industry has an unemployment rate less than 5% so I don't think anyone is worried about losing jobs.
Yeah, if you have a CS masters and 20 years of experience, there are plenty of $8/hr cable puller jobs out there...
You have got to be kidding?
This American differentiation between IT and CS just confuses me...
Its pretty simple, the CS guys do creative work / design work and decide what everyone from raw users to IT guys will do (usually decided indirectly via design decisions).
The IT people do nothing creative at all, or at least as much as possible, and "designing" is limited to applying other peoples very large building blocks, or non-customer facing (like "design" where the conduit for the cat-5 cables will run in the data center that only a dozen people have physical access to)
Get yourself into a nice safe government job plugging in machines made in China, don't start on a career which will relatively soon (two decades, i.e. half way through your working life) be done exclusively in India, Malaysia, China and wherever else looks the cheapest this quarter.
But can you pay your student loans at $8/hr? Admittedly after a couple years some of the guys in the crew were making $12/hr. Union scale electricians also pull cable, and at one point the standard union rate was around $30/hr, but the illegal alien invasion is taking that down a notch or two. If you're going to pull cable and terminate to connectors, do it at 120 volts for $30/hr, not 100 megs/sec at $8/hr.
I find I get my problem solving fix from helping others at a college campus. This has netted me some freshly baked chocolate chip cookies and fudge...
I agree, although I've never heard that analogy for sex before.