The U.S. firefoxers are badly lagging behind here: The German local group "Firefox kommt!" had their ad with about 2,400 signatures in Germany's premier economics paper "Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung" (FAZ) on the 2nd of December 2004. You can see the ad here (includes various mirrors). The response in the German press was fantastic. ... and firefox-kommt was started after the US campaign. And I really liked the ad... Firefox Declares War in Germany Firefox ad published in Europe Now, quite a lot of people tried to post this on Slashdot, but for some reason, these stories seem to have been rejected wholesale. I fail to see the reasoning behind this: Being U.S. centered is one thing, trying to supress the first example of an ad that the world has been holding its breath for quite another. It would be nice if the editors forced themselves to give a reason when they rejected postings or at least created a section where people can look at them.
So true.
Having worked in the computer game industry I can safely say, "playing a bunch of computer games in no way prepares you for a job in creating games."
Hmmm. Sounds interesting... You heard me right. Book learning is much more useful. Math and science are useful for doing technical stuff like optimizing the display and creating realistic physics. Other non-computer fields are useful, too. Sociology, geography, statistics, etc. The list goes on.
That maybe right from the technical point of view. But not from the motivational point of view. Books dont help you there at all. Spending all your time playing computer games means you are only familiar with WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE. ... and finding out what you always missed. Of cause the 40-millionth FPS doesnt help at all. But games like civilisation and lemmings were original. The creators probably knew what had already existed and needed to know that to create such great games. (Ok, Civ might be a bad example as a computer game since its idea is from a boardgame, but as far as creativity goes the same rules apply for boardgames as for computergames - it might even be harder).
I suspect, that playing computer games became so naturally to you that you didnt even realize what you learned from it.
Try something like debian stable or even testing (its frozen right now).
Hell, why do you debian trolls always forget to give a valid reason for this? think of all the wasted time eating up CPU that constantly compiling new versions of your software.
It not wasted. It runs in the background and doesnt hinder my usage of the system at all. So your gay ass pimped KDE desktop opens up 15 seconds faster, big whoop.
Not everyone has a bloated KDE desktop. And most gentoo users dont care about "speed gain". Developing on the official "ricer" linux distro. What a joke.
Promoting the official newbie-unfriendly asshole distro. What a joke. 8 hours later I still didn't even have GCC or even bash yet.
a) Use stage3+GRP
b) inform yourself on forums.gentoo.org or #gentoo on freenode.net about est. compile-times before trying a install.
c) Concider if gentoo would be a PITA on your hardware and not really worth it. Compiling gcc on my AMD K6-200 takes 3-4 hours. This is why I crosscompile it on a faster machine or use GRP.
d) debian is fine and a better solution in some scenarios. But it is not the best solution in all scenarios. debian being a good distro doesnt make gentoo superfluous.
e) As for package formats: Makeing.debs from ebuilds is easy. The other way around it does not work.
Portage is overly complex.
no. (same dogmatic statement) Customizing packages for a specific system is overrated.
for you In the long run Debian has the best approach.
for you Portage has too much added complexity. RPM is too poorly designed.
Hey! Some truth in this post! If Redhat cut their losses and stopped suffering from not invented here syndrome for just five seconds to realize the Debian packaging format is better, there's be so much less disunity.
And if debianers cut their losses and stopped suffering from not invented here syndrome for just five seconds to realize that from portage ebuilds you could easily generate.debs and.rpms and whatever other binary package available, there's be so much less disunity. But as you just demonstrated this aint gonna happen.
Thats life.
PS.: gentoo wasnt thought to be a distro like debian and RH. It was made so people could roll out their own distro based on source (buzzword: metadistro). If someone uses gentoo to make a distro just for himself and compiles everything himself, he should know what hes up to. In the end you cant compare gentoo and debian - they are different tools for different jobs.
and artist suck at programing.
You forgot a example for that although they are easily found - Just take a look at some "artistic" webdesign failing on even the basics of standard compilance and good practices. Ok, its not really programming. But "thing up new way to interpret languages" has its place in poetry but *not* in (X)HTML if you are changing the rules on the way...
i believe the minimum hardware requirements for gentoo are defined as "any machine capable of compiling the latest release in less time than the stated release period".
And I believe you can circumvent that by using stage3+GRP.
And how *exactly* does the receiving mail server verify the work unit without computing it itself?
Compute one initial folding@home workunit.
Allocate space for a "new" workunits and b "trusted" workunits and their results.
Put the computed unit in trusted and send the result to folding@home
LOOP:
challenge the mail senders with a trusted workunit and one of the stored workunits in random order. Store the IP and the result.
If:
- The result of the trusted unit is right.
- The result of the new unit differs from all results to different workunits.
- He answered the challenge in time.
the mailer is allowed to send mail else he will be blocked for some time.
If c different IPs have returned the same result for a trusted workunit and the workunits has reached a certain "age" (d hours), move it to trusted and send the result to folding@home and put a new one into "new". Kick out the oldest trusted workunits if needed.
Option: If b units have been replaced, exchange the set of "trusted" workunits completely with a trusted other mailserver.
If two different results were returned for a "new" workunit drop that unit and get an new one for that. Once every e times (but not more often than once every f minutes) this happens calculate a new workunit and replace one of the trusted ones.
calculate at least one workunit every g hours.
Example parameters: a= 5 b= 20 c= 10 d= 3 e= 10 f= 15 g= 12 (assuming a workunit takes ca. 1 minute to calculate on the mailserver...)
Some ideas about attacks on this:
First, the attacker needs to ban some of his zombies by trying to find out which units are "trusted" and which are "new".
Poisoning the trusted units would be pretty hard, because it needs at least c zombies and no "honest" person trying to send mail in d hours.
Its possible though to keep the server from getting new trusted workunits by sending false responses for the new units. The server could notify the admin in this case, because it it a pretty save sign of an attack. In this case the attacker still need to calculate b workunits and 1 workunit every f minutes - pretty expensive for spammers.
(The server is under load too, while being attacked, but not more than the attacker. Without the attack there is not much additional load.)
Server CPU Load: +0.14% without attack +6.6% under attack
Re:OK we need some input from the Zope heads
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Is it really an Application Server and if so what services does it provide?
It is. Its services are called "products" one of them is plone - a framework built upon zope - providing everything you need for a Community website (Calendars, news, Member homepages, Picture Gallerys, Forums etc.) I know this is more a Python thing but even mentioning an application server built in a scripting language will have me ridiculed out the door. Stop laughing. This is running zope.Google Cache
But already this program does all of the important functions I need Powerpoint for...
Take a look at prosper or latex-beamer - the results are superior to everything Powerpoint comes up with...
The real problem is to to provide a click-and-point interface to easily create these presentations. And LaTex is a real good backend, but it shows its age here and there (for the web a XML-based language would be an advantage for example....)
Go on kids!
Yes, Daddy! Use gentoo for a while, then when you become bored of being ricers, try debian on a separate partition.
Why? I can stop being a ricer and stay with gentoo. If you have a broadband-connection, it will probably stick there.
Why?
Give me a reason (a unique selling point) that debian has to offer over gentoo, since you imply here debian is better somehow....
The only one I can think of would be that they have stricter politics regarding licenses. Some might find this an advantage - others not. (And the new portage also supports a restriction to certain licenses, so even this is a more philosophical point.)
As for "you have to compile everything" this is not true since GRP and binary online respitories exist.
And if you want a nifty installer you might have a point - but somehow debian doesnt shine there aswell. (Not mentioning the gentoo installer project and Vidalinux....)
So, why do you say I would prefer debian again? Why should I try it?
(Im not saying gentoo is better than debian, I just dont see any reason to switch...)
The ones you want to reach with the message dont care about content. Those who care about facts already have them. Ads are for the ones who dont really care too much about facts...
But, he/she similarly totally misunderstands the point of copyright laws by playing "bright lining" games (as do, in my experience, many slashdot readers).
Are you sure about this? RIAA minions are doing bright lining ever since the topic came up, and were able to promote/force their interpretation of law and its spirit via media to the public by doing this, thus making it easier to lobby laws that in turn better fit the now-common interpretation of the law.
Bright lining is a Good Thing(tm). It shows that the law is ambiguous and need clarification, and that the public has not one, but more interpretations of the spirit of the law...
For instance, one thing I'd really like to do in Python is to modify a few things about the built-in string class. I'd like to just be able to import a module into my program, and have the string class work differently from then on.
So whats wrong with this:
class mystr(str): .def __eq__(self, other): ..print "I am unique!" ..return False
a=mystr("bla") print a==a
resulting in:
bjoern@lord:~/ > python pytest.py I am unique! False
Yes, you have to init the strings explicitly as mystr, but so what - anything else would be *very* confusing, since all other modules (from the language distribution itself or from other sources ) expect a certain behavior from the str class, and a different behavior would just create havoc...
(why does slashcode break indenting in ecodes? Arghh... I guess you still understand waht I mean...)
you have to pay once for having a TV if you have any number of TV sets in your household, however many persons you're living with in your household. As of April 2005, this includes Internet-capable PCs.
only if the private household exception holds for you. As this is germany, there are exceptions to the exception (children with a income, shared appartments, secondary appartments)...
This whole law is completely fucked up. It should be just a flat tax (less bureaucracy, no garden gnomes...)
the Germans are grumpy about it.
You can be sure about it. The GEZ-fee is like "the British pay for their TVs, to pay for German equivalent of the BBC." Thats not the main problem. The main problem is this should be a flat tax for everyone. Right now, you only have to pay for each TV/radio set.. Of cause, if someone moves out of his parents home he doesnt file his request to pay the fee (maybe they forget about it and in addition students are poor). To get the money the GEZ has some guys running around town, ringing the bell of appartments to "check for a TV". It gets expensive if you open the door and a TV is running in your living room. These "supervision state methods" are making the GEZ unpopular.
Slashdot Mirror
The U.S. firefoxers are badly lagging behind here: The German local group "Firefox kommt!" had their ad with about 2,400 signatures in Germany's premier economics paper "Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung" (FAZ) on the 2nd of December 2004. You can see the ad here (includes various mirrors). The response in the German press was fantastic.
... and firefox-kommt was started after the US campaign. And I really liked the ad ...
Firefox Declares War in Germany
Firefox ad published in Europe
Now, quite a lot of people tried to post this on Slashdot, but for some reason, these stories seem to have been rejected wholesale. I fail to see the reasoning behind this: Being U.S. centered is one thing, trying to supress the first example of an ad that the world has been holding its breath for quite another. It would be nice if the editors forced themselves to give a reason when they rejected postings or at least created a section where people can look at them.
So true.
Having worked in the computer game industry I can safely say, "playing a bunch of computer games in no way prepares you for a job in creating games." ...
... and finding out what you always missed. Of cause the 40-millionth FPS doesnt help at all. But games like civilisation and lemmings were original. The creators probably knew what had already existed and needed to know that to create such great games. (Ok, Civ might be a bad example as a computer game since its idea is from a boardgame, but as far as creativity goes the same rules apply for boardgames as for computergames - it might even be harder).
Hmmm. Sounds interesting
You heard me right. Book learning is much more useful. Math and science are useful for doing technical stuff like optimizing the display and creating realistic physics. Other non-computer fields are useful, too. Sociology, geography, statistics, etc. The list goes on.
That maybe right from the technical point of view. But not from the motivational point of view. Books dont help you there at all.
Spending all your time playing computer games means you are only familiar with WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE.
I suspect, that playing computer games became so naturally to you that you didnt even realize what you learned from it.
...is there a graphical installer?
kinda:
http://freshmeat.net/projects/gentooinstaler/
AFAIK Linus owns (or at least did own at some point) a few millions from some linux distros going public ...
(read the book "Have Fun" for more info)
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=executive
1. A person or group having administrative or managerial authority in an organization.
organisation != company.
Try something like debian stable or even testing (its frozen right now). .debs from ebuilds is easy. The other way around it does not work.
Hell, why do you debian trolls always forget to give a valid reason for this?
think of all the wasted time eating up CPU that constantly compiling new versions of your software.
It not wasted. It runs in the background and doesnt hinder my usage of the system at all.
So your gay ass pimped KDE desktop opens up 15 seconds faster, big whoop.
Not everyone has a bloated KDE desktop. And most gentoo users dont care about "speed gain".
Developing on the official "ricer" linux distro. What a joke.
Promoting the official newbie-unfriendly asshole distro. What a joke.
8 hours later I still didn't even have GCC or even bash yet.
a) Use stage3+GRP
b) inform yourself on forums.gentoo.org or #gentoo on freenode.net about est. compile-times before trying a install.
c) Concider if gentoo would be a PITA on your hardware and not really worth it. Compiling gcc on my AMD K6-200 takes 3-4 hours. This is why I crosscompile it on a faster machine or use GRP.
d) debian is fine and a better solution in some scenarios. But it is not the best solution in all scenarios. debian being a good distro doesnt make gentoo superfluous.
e) As for package formats: Makeing
Portage is overly complex. .debs and .rpms and whatever other binary package available, there's be so much less disunity. But as you just demonstrated this aint gonna happen.
no. (same dogmatic statement)
Customizing packages for a specific system is overrated.
for you
In the long run Debian has the best approach.
for you
Portage has too much added complexity.
RPM is too poorly designed.
Hey! Some truth in this post!
If Redhat cut their losses and stopped suffering from not invented here syndrome for just five seconds to realize the Debian packaging format is better, there's be so much less disunity.
And if debianers cut their losses and stopped suffering from not invented here syndrome for just five seconds to realize that from portage ebuilds you could easily generate
Thats life.
PS.: gentoo wasnt thought to be a distro like debian and RH. It was made so people could roll out their own distro based on source (buzzword: metadistro). If someone uses gentoo to make a distro just for himself and compiles everything himself, he should know what hes up to. In the end you cant compare gentoo and debian - they are different tools for different jobs.
poor flaming canine is a panda!
how does that explain Slashdot? /. is written in Perl. Perl has a lot less to do with clean coding than with poetry.
Oh, thats simple.
and artist suck at programing. ...
You forgot a example for that although they are easily found - Just take a look at some "artistic" webdesign failing on even the basics of standard compilance and good practices. Ok, its not really programming. But "thing up new way to interpret languages" has its place in poetry but *not* in (X)HTML if you are changing the rules on the way
gentoo and BSD are in the works.x .xml
Links:
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/gentoo-alt/bsd/inde
http://dev.gentoo.org/~g2boojum/bsd.html
BTW, this is probably why you should do it per hand
i believe the minimum hardware requirements for gentoo are defined as "any machine capable of compiling the latest release in less time than the stated release period".
And I believe you can circumvent that by using stage3+GRP.
- The result of the trusted unit is right.
- The result of the new unit differs from all results to different workunits.
- He answered the challenge in time.
the mailer is allowed to send mail else he will be blocked for some time.
Option: If b units have been replaced, exchange the set of "trusted" workunits completely with a trusted other mailserver.
Some ideas about attacks on this:
First, the attacker needs to ban some of his zombies by trying to find out which units are "trusted" and which are "new".
Poisoning the trusted units would be pretty hard, because it needs at least c zombies and no "honest" person trying to send mail in d hours.
Its possible though to keep the server from getting new trusted workunits by sending false responses for the new units. The server could notify the admin in this case, because it it a pretty save sign of an attack. In this case the attacker still need to calculate b workunits and 1 workunit every f minutes - pretty expensive for spammers.
(The server is under load too, while being attacked, but not more than the attacker. Without the attack there is not much additional load.)
What did I miss here?
http://www.zope.com/Customers.html
http://www.zope.org/Resources/ZopePowered/
Is it really an Application Server and if so what services does it provide?
It is. Its services are called "products" one of them is plone - a framework built upon zope - providing everything you need for a Community website (Calendars, news, Member homepages, Picture Gallerys, Forums etc.)
I know this is more a Python thing but even mentioning an application server built in a scripting language will have me ridiculed out the door.
Stop laughing. This is running zope. Google Cache
I dont have a Mac myself, but this looks helpful:
Installing Fonts for LATEX on OS X
But already this program does all of the important functions I need Powerpoint for ... ... ....)
Take a look at prosper or latex-beamer - the results are superior to everything Powerpoint comes up with
The real problem is to to provide a click-and-point interface to easily create these presentations. And LaTex is a real good backend, but it shows its age here and there (for the web a XML-based language would be an advantage for example
Go on kids! .... ....)
...)
Yes, Daddy!
Use gentoo for a while, then when you become bored of being ricers, try debian on a separate partition.
Why? I can stop being a ricer and stay with gentoo.
If you have a broadband-connection, it will probably stick there.
Why?
Give me a reason (a unique selling point) that debian has to offer over gentoo, since you imply here debian is better somehow
The only one I can think of would be that they have stricter politics regarding licenses. Some might find this an advantage - others not. (And the new portage also supports a restriction to certain licenses, so even this is a more philosophical point.)
As for "you have to compile everything" this is not true since GRP and binary online respitories exist.
And if you want a nifty installer you might have a point - but somehow debian doesnt shine there aswell. (Not mentioning the gentoo installer project and Vidalinux
So, why do you say I would prefer debian again? Why should I try it?
(Im not saying gentoo is better than debian, I just dont see any reason to switch
The ones you want to reach with the message dont care about content. Those who care about facts already have them. Ads are for the ones who dont really care too much about facts ...
But, he/she similarly totally misunderstands the point of copyright laws by playing "bright lining" games (as do, in my experience, many slashdot readers). ...
Are you sure about this? RIAA minions are doing bright lining ever since the topic came up, and were able to promote/force their interpretation of law and its spirit via media to the public by doing this, thus making it easier to lobby laws that in turn better fit the now-common interpretation of the law.
Bright lining is a Good Thing(tm). It shows that the law is ambiguous and need clarification, and that the public has not one, but more interpretations of the spirit of the law
So whats wrong with this:resulting in:Yes, you have to init the strings explicitly as mystr, but so what - anything else would be *very* confusing, since all other modules (from the language distribution itself or from other sources ) expect a certain behavior from the str class, and a different behavior would just create havoc
(why does slashcode break indenting in ecodes? Arghh
No one ever got fired for buying Intel. .... just wait a bit ...
Really ?
you have to pay once for having a TV if you have any number of TV sets in your household, however many persons you're living with in your household. As of April 2005, this includes Internet-capable PCs. ... ...)
only if the private household exception holds for you. As this is germany, there are exceptions to the exception (children with a income, shared appartments, secondary appartments)
This whole law is completely fucked up. It should be just a flat tax (less bureaucracy, no garden gnomes
the Germans are grumpy about it.
You can be sure about it. The GEZ-fee is like "the British pay for their TVs, to pay for German equivalent of the BBC." Thats not the main problem. The main problem is this should be a flat tax for everyone. Right now, you only have to pay for each TV/radio set.. Of cause, if someone moves out of his parents home he doesnt file his request to pay the fee (maybe they forget about it and in addition students are poor). To get the money the GEZ has some guys running around town, ringing the bell of appartments to "check for a TV". It gets expensive if you open the door and a TV is running in your living room. These "supervision state methods" are making the GEZ unpopular.