No, you Eurosnobs jumped on me because I DARED to point out that the EU has been INCREASING their emissions in 2017, not decreasing. You can make all the excuses you want, but the EU is headed in the wrong direction. The US is as well, but we don't have an excuse for everything and pretend that signing accords are going to do a darned thing.
I never said it was sensible for the US to do nothing! The US needs to reduce its emissions too (by more than it is now). I said it the report was sensible, because the 7 degree rise in temperature was accurate, considering the EU and Asia are choosing to INCREASE their emissions, not reduce them. What the US does with car emissions won't make any meaningful difference. And basic math tells you if the trend increases the absolute number increases as well. You guys are so overly sensitive when someone dares to criticise your holy EU.
Who said the US was doing "good"? I merely mentioned that EU has been increasing their emissions, not decreasing them. They went up in 2017. I fail to understand the anger.
Again, you guys can't take criticism. It always "but look at America"! The EU is increasing their emissions, not decreasing it. In 2017 they went UP. 2018 will be worse. Until countries get serious about reducing emissions there will be no solution to the climate change problem. The report is sensible in making reasonable projections for warming targets. Changing the car emissions standards in the US will make no difference to the issue. I know you guys have been brainwashed into thinking Europe==good==green, but it is not true. Sorry the truth hurts.
No, the EU has NOT been doing a "good job". Their emissions INCREASED in 2017 and will be worse in 2018. The EU trend is not enough, and is getting worse. How is that a "good job"? You guys are denialists.
I don't agree that it is reasonable. After all the planet is at stake. Why does the EU allow their emissions to increase in 2017 (and worse in 2018)? You are in denial. The only reason it went down in 2010 to 2016 is due to a recession.
Yeah, a lot of shiny glossy reports coming out and nice dinners while they discuss things and sign treaties. Meanwhile the EU has increased their emissions in 2017 by 1.7%. You guys are in denial.
It wuold be "better'? Christ, it is critical that this happens, not just "better". When did I say the US needed to do nothing? Yes, the problem IS the trends. If countries emit MORE (like the EU did in 2017) then the problem gets WORSE. The trend should be downwards. You guys are denialists!
Either way, the EU is headed in the wrong direction. They increased their emissions in 2017 and it is going to be even worse in 2018. Sorry you are so upset about it, but no reason to take it out on me!
Ah, I didn't realize I had to say something about the US too. How about: the US has been decreasing their emissions, unlike the EU which increased their emissions in 2017? Would that help you guys out?
Unfortunately the EU has been increasing their weight, not decreasing it. They were supposed to decrease emissions, but increased it instead. Inexplicable to me. After all, they signed the Paris accord with much fanfare. Maybe they forgot to read it?
The most recent data points are the most important ones. The trend should be downward, not upwards. Not sure what you aren't understanding. The EU is going in the wrong direction.
Yes the UK has been doing very well, and had a marked decrease in 2017. Unfortunately Spain, France and Italy and some of the other countries are not doing the same and have been increasing their emissions in 2017.
I'm not going to do your homework for you. The fact is that the EU increased their emissions by 1.7% in 2017 and 2018 looks worse. I am sorry that hurts your feelings, but those are the facts. Until the trends are downward (and significantly downward) there is still a problem. That is why I said the projection is sensible.
Correct. The European trend upwards is concerning. The trends should be downward. Unfortunately the EU and Asia trends are upwards. I am glad you agree with me.
What facts am I "isolating"? The EU and Asia have been increasing their emissions. That means that there is no progress, and thus a climate change is likely. I hardly think that is trolling.
My point was that the EU and Asia were increasing their emissions in 2017. The US has not. The point is that the projection of a 7 degree rise in temperature is sensible because there aren't any real reduction efforts going on. You guys are too sensitive. Learn to take criticism.
Where in my post did I say anything about the US? The US is even worse in carbon emissions. You guys are so sensitive whenever anyone dares to criticize the holy EU.
How does that change anything I said? I didn't say anything about the US. All I said is that the EU increased their crabon output as did Asia. I didn't say anything about the US. You Europeans get triggered easily by facts, but that isn't my fault. You need to clean up your act. A 7 percent change in climate is very feasible and having the EU and Asia increase their carbon output is hurting, not helping.
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Thanks for the report, Rei. How is Musk doing? Any problems?
No, you Eurosnobs jumped on me because I DARED to point out that the EU has been INCREASING their emissions in 2017, not decreasing. You can make all the excuses you want, but the EU is headed in the wrong direction. The US is as well, but we don't have an excuse for everything and pretend that signing accords are going to do a darned thing.
Correct. The US isn't doing enough. Where did I say it was? Stop being so hurt.
I never said it was sensible for the US to do nothing! The US needs to reduce its emissions too (by more than it is now). I said it the report was sensible, because the 7 degree rise in temperature was accurate, considering the EU and Asia are choosing to INCREASE their emissions, not reduce them. What the US does with car emissions won't make any meaningful difference. And basic math tells you if the trend increases the absolute number increases as well. You guys are so overly sensitive when someone dares to criticise your holy EU.
Who said the US was doing "good"? I merely mentioned that EU has been increasing their emissions, not decreasing them. They went up in 2017. I fail to understand the anger.
There are only a few types I dislike: space nutters, technocrats, AI nutters and Eurosnobs. Typically they are the same people.
Again, you guys can't take criticism. It always "but look at America"! The EU is increasing their emissions, not decreasing it. In 2017 they went UP. 2018 will be worse. Until countries get serious about reducing emissions there will be no solution to the climate change problem. The report is sensible in making reasonable projections for warming targets. Changing the car emissions standards in the US will make no difference to the issue. I know you guys have been brainwashed into thinking Europe==good==green, but it is not true. Sorry the truth hurts.
No, the EU has NOT been doing a "good job". Their emissions INCREASED in 2017 and will be worse in 2018. The EU trend is not enough, and is getting worse. How is that a "good job"? You guys are denialists.
Obviously more Paris accords need to be signed and more glossy EU reports need to be produced. Apparently that is the solution.
I don't agree that it is reasonable. After all the planet is at stake. Why does the EU allow their emissions to increase in 2017 (and worse in 2018)? You are in denial. The only reason it went down in 2010 to 2016 is due to a recession.
"A lot of action"
Yeah, a lot of shiny glossy reports coming out and nice dinners while they discuss things and sign treaties. Meanwhile the EU has increased their emissions in 2017 by 1.7%. You guys are in denial.
It wuold be "better'? Christ, it is critical that this happens, not just "better". When did I say the US needed to do nothing? Yes, the problem IS the trends. If countries emit MORE (like the EU did in 2017) then the problem gets WORSE. The trend should be downwards. You guys are denialists!
Thanks. The trend for EU is upwards, not downwards. 2018 will be even worse. Truth hurts I guess. Did you get your Tesla yet? It might help.
Either way, the EU is headed in the wrong direction. They increased their emissions in 2017 and it is going to be even worse in 2018. Sorry you are so upset about it, but no reason to take it out on me!
Ah, I didn't realize I had to say something about the US too. How about: the US has been decreasing their emissions, unlike the EU which increased their emissions in 2017? Would that help you guys out?
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3. The EU has been increasing their carbon emissions in 2017. It is 1.7% more than in 2016. 2018 will be even worse.
Sorry you can't handle facts, but maybe you can get a Tesla and you can feel better about yourself.
Unfortunately the EU has been increasing their weight, not decreasing it. They were supposed to decrease emissions, but increased it instead. Inexplicable to me. After all, they signed the Paris accord with much fanfare. Maybe they forgot to read it?
The most recent data points are the most important ones. The trend should be downward, not upwards. Not sure what you aren't understanding. The EU is going in the wrong direction.
Yes the UK has been doing very well, and had a marked decrease in 2017. Unfortunately Spain, France and Italy and some of the other countries are not doing the same and have been increasing their emissions in 2017.
I'm not going to do your homework for you. The fact is that the EU increased their emissions by 1.7% in 2017 and 2018 looks worse. I am sorry that hurts your feelings, but those are the facts. Until the trends are downward (and significantly downward) there is still a problem. That is why I said the projection is sensible.
Correct. The European trend upwards is concerning. The trends should be downward. Unfortunately the EU and Asia trends are upwards. I am glad you agree with me.
What facts am I "isolating"? The EU and Asia have been increasing their emissions. That means that there is no progress, and thus a climate change is likely. I hardly think that is trolling.
My point was that the EU and Asia were increasing their emissions in 2017. The US has not. The point is that the projection of a 7 degree rise in temperature is sensible because there aren't any real reduction efforts going on. You guys are too sensitive. Learn to take criticism.
Where in my post did I say anything about the US? The US is even worse in carbon emissions. You guys are so sensitive whenever anyone dares to criticize the holy EU.
How does that change anything I said? I didn't say anything about the US. All I said is that the EU increased their crabon output as did Asia. I didn't say anything about the US. You Europeans get triggered easily by facts, but that isn't my fault. You need to clean up your act. A 7 percent change in climate is very feasible and having the EU and Asia increase their carbon output is hurting, not helping.