I have no background in sociology or anything else wishy-washy... I'm just talking numbers...
Socially responsible activities are all well and good, but the net result of what you are talking about is the same life for an American worker (minus the warm fuzzy feeling).
Of course, as I said before, I'm not an economist, so that assumption could be wrong.
T
P.S. In today's America, you're 20 idiots would all be called geniuses (wouldn't want to hurt their feelings, would you?) and the parents would all slap "I have an honor roll student at butt-fuck elementary" bumper stickers on their minivans.
[This is purely anecdotal, not meant to be prejudicial]
The biggest difference I've ever noticed is mostly cultural.
It seems that Americans are more used to questioning and saying things like "are you sure you really want to do it this way??", whereas Indian programmers just seem to do what they're told, regardless of whether it makes sense.
For example, my wife works at a large financial firm as a project manager. They had to stop giving new development to an Indian company they were working with because the work turned out to be barely functional. This was mostly due to the specs not being complete. She said she almost never got questions about the requirements and just received a bad product at the end. This same company was exceptional at porting older applications to newer technologies and they still do that today. They just don't get new work.
Granted, the root cause of the issue was bad requirements, but American designers/developers would have balked at it and questioned it more, resulting in a better product.
(NOTE: Some of this hesitation is probably due to fixed-price negotiations and time limits along with time zone differences and the difficulty of back-and-forth requirements gathering with people in a different part of the world. YMMV)
Without illegal aliens, the Americans working as unskilled labor would enjoy a sudden and dramatic boost in their wages, enabling them to actually buy medical insurance.
I'm no economist, but would this not also then make it more expensive to build said "widgets" (whatever is producted/affected by unskilled labor). Thus, when Americans want to buy those widgets, they become more expensive. This would, in turn, raise the cost of living in the US to balance out the effects of the increase in wages, right?
So, you're in favor of Big Brother looking over (and possibly copying) EVERY SINGLE picture you want to print, just in case there's a pedophile out there?
Would you rather that it be illegal to print your own and they can force you to use the common peoples' printer, and thus expose your entire private life, just in case someone's doing something wrong?
Yes, but it was an innovative way of handling things and it's not the only way to do things. It just happens to be the best way for this situation, which is the point to patents. Borland did a lot of work on this back in the day and, as far as software patents go, this is a pretty good one, IMO.
Regardless of what the other poster said, this has nothing to do with C++ or Java or whatever exceptions.
This is C exception handling. It's a way to handle exceptions in C only. It is a unique implementation and a valid patent (in the scheme of software patents).
It was my understanding that all that the judges said was that the FCC overstepped its bounds by trying to regulate the manufacture of electronic equipment, rather than the communications.
I don't remember reading about time shifting at all. Of course, I didn't read this exact article.
in casual conversation? Just annoying know-it-alls like me:)
If you tried to sell something called Champagne, I would say that it would be the WTO. They've already successfully stopped people from doing similar things with the names of Cheese.
These names have been controlled for hundreds of years and are part of the value of the wines.
Anyway, I think we've swung far enough off-topic:)
The US relies on special paper that can not be gotten any other way, and magentic strips inside the paper, and special inks... and watermarks... and special messages in extremely small print, etc.
None of these have anything to do with the colo[u]r.
No, I just wouldn't drink a White Zinfandel if you paid me. It's a shameful waste of good Zinfandel grapes.
I prefer a nice Sauvignon Blanc or Viognier with poultry. Unless, you cook it spicy. mmm... Vindaloo T-Rex... maybe a good spicy Cabernet with that.. or go the other direction and have a Riesling or a Gewürztraminer to cut the spice. I prefer matching spice for spice though.
I thought that specifying that the bone was only 10,000 years old was bad, but when you talked about drinking White Zinfandel, your ignorance was confirmed...;)
I just saw it last friday (one week ago) and I thought it was great. It's well worth going. But, beware, people are trying to mark up the tickets like crazy.
I also recommend, if you like Indian food, to go to Utsav in the theater district. It was friggin awesome. Get the Murg Vindaloo and order the Sterling Cabernet with it. It's a great combo, if you don't mind your food making you sweat:)
There have been multiple attempts at this. Myth Recommends, WishTV, TV Wish, Myth Suggest (?)... I can't remember the names exactly, but there are attempts out there.
I don't think any of them gained enough traction to get included in the software directly, but you may be able to kick start development on one of them.
ok.. ok... so... how does this get money into the American Worker's hand then?
What, exactly, am I missing here?
that's not producing anything?
Well, just plug in "lawn care" for "widget" and change a couple other things around and re-read the paragraph.
T
I have no background in sociology or anything else wishy-washy...
I'm just talking numbers...
Socially responsible activities are all well and good, but the net result of what you are talking about is the same life for an American worker (minus the warm fuzzy feeling).
Of course, as I said before, I'm not an economist, so that assumption could be wrong.
T
P.S. In today's America, you're 20 idiots would all be called geniuses (wouldn't want to hurt their feelings, would you?) and the parents would all slap "I have an honor roll student at butt-fuck elementary" bumper stickers on their minivans.
Yes... and the net effect of the whole thing would be a net change of NOTHING to the American Worker
T
[This is purely anecdotal, not meant to be prejudicial]
The biggest difference I've ever noticed is mostly cultural.
It seems that Americans are more used to questioning and saying things like "are you sure you really want to do it this way??", whereas Indian programmers just seem to do what they're told, regardless of whether it makes sense.
For example, my wife works at a large financial firm as a project manager. They had to stop giving new development to an Indian company they were working with because the work turned out to be barely functional. This was mostly due to the specs not being complete. She said she almost never got questions about the requirements and just received a bad product at the end. This same company was exceptional at porting older applications to newer technologies and they still do that today. They just don't get new work.
Granted, the root cause of the issue was bad requirements, but American designers/developers would have balked at it and questioned it more, resulting in a better product.
(NOTE: Some of this hesitation is probably due to fixed-price negotiations and time limits along with time zone differences and the difficulty of back-and-forth requirements gathering with people in a different part of the world. YMMV)
Last I checked, chips like that were mostly made in Southeast Asia. Has that changed?
Without illegal aliens, the Americans working as unskilled labor would enjoy a sudden and dramatic boost in their wages, enabling them to actually buy medical insurance.
I'm no economist, but would this not also then make it more expensive to build said "widgets" (whatever is producted/affected by unskilled labor). Thus, when Americans want to buy those widgets, they become more expensive. This would, in turn, raise the cost of living in the US to balance out the effects of the increase in wages, right?
So, you're in favor of Big Brother looking over (and possibly copying) EVERY SINGLE picture you want to print, just in case there's a pedophile out there?
Would you rather that it be illegal to print your own and they can force you to use the common peoples' printer, and thus expose your entire private life, just in case someone's doing something wrong?
Man... think this through just a little bit...
And everyone's home porn videos should be free too! So hand em over!
To quote Bugs Bunny: "What a Maroon!"
Yes, but it was an innovative way of handling things and it's not the only way to do things. It just happens to be the best way for this situation, which is the point to patents. Borland did a lot of work on this back in the day and, as far as software patents go, this is a pretty good one, IMO.
T
Regardless of what the other poster said, this has nothing to do with C++ or Java or whatever exceptions.
This is C exception handling. It's a way to handle exceptions in C only. It is a unique implementation and a valid patent (in the scheme of software patents).
It was my understanding that all that the judges said was that the FCC overstepped its bounds by trying to regulate the manufacture of electronic equipment, rather than the communications.
I don't remember reading about time shifting at all. Of course, I didn't read this exact article.
T
That is often referred to as "throwing the goat".
Here's the Urban Dictionary entry (I put it the first entry - the one with the geeky Wil Wheaton reference.. hehe)
T
Everyone I know that bought an LCD or Plasma screen has a maximum of 720p resolution. what are you talking about?
in casual conversation? Just annoying know-it-alls like me :)
:)
If you tried to sell something called Champagne, I would say that it would be the WTO. They've already successfully stopped people from doing similar things with the names of Cheese.
These names have been controlled for hundreds of years and are part of the value of the wines.
Anyway, I think we've swung far enough off-topic
It can't be properly called Champagne unless it's made in the Champagne region of France. Everything else is called "Sparkling Wine".
Here's a link that describes it briefly
The US relies on special paper that can not be gotten any other way, and magentic strips inside the paper, and special inks... and watermarks... and special messages in extremely small print, etc.
None of these have anything to do with the colo[u]r.
Go here if you want more info:
http://www.moneyfactory.com/newmoney/
T
"Our paper money was far more advanced than US currency anyway, it had full-colour printing!"
??
Just because it has lots of colo[u]rs on it doesn't make it more advanced. It just makes it [potentially] prettier
T
Did he say:
:)
"I'm RICK JAMES BITCH! Use Hibernate BITCH!
CHAAALLIE MURPHYYYYY! DARKNESS! Use Hibernate!"
We called ours 'Snaggle'... ouch!
No, I just wouldn't drink a White Zinfandel if you paid me. It's a shameful waste of good Zinfandel grapes.
:)
I prefer a nice Sauvignon Blanc or Viognier with poultry. Unless, you cook it spicy. mmm... Vindaloo T-Rex... maybe a good spicy Cabernet with that.. or go the other direction and have a Riesling or a Gewürztraminer to cut the spice. I prefer matching spice for spice though.
Anyway, White Zin is Satan spawn
I thought that specifying that the bone was only 10,000 years old was bad, but when you talked about drinking White Zinfandel, your ignorance was confirmed... ;)
If you haven't read it yeat, Wil Wheaton's book "Just a Geek" is also available in audio form (narrated by him).
It's not a techie book, but Wil is a geek and a _very_ entertaining story teller.
Tom
I just saw it last friday (one week ago) and I thought it was great. It's well worth going. But, beware, people are trying to mark up the tickets like crazy.
:)
:)
I also recommend, if you like Indian food, to go to Utsav in the theater district. It was friggin awesome. Get the Murg Vindaloo and order the Sterling Cabernet with it. It's a great combo, if you don't mind your food making you sweat
Anyway, great show for Holy Grail fans
T
There have been multiple attempts at this. Myth Recommends, WishTV, TV Wish, Myth Suggest (?)... I can't remember the names exactly, but there are attempts out there.
I don't think any of them gained enough traction to get included in the software directly, but you may be able to kick start development on one of them.
T