Most certainly, that is true.
But I wonder if (and I'm just thinking out loud here) that's why much of Microsoft software is bloated and bug-ridden. Gates demends software does X and Y to expand feature but the coding and innovation required might be the code version of moving mountains.
In the community open-source model, many features get coded because there is a community movement towards it as it works into the code slowly and incrementally.
Just a thought...
...is that open source software, assuming it can weather legal and business challenges (**cough**SCO?**cough**), will always have an army of part time coders and testers that will work out holes, plug leaks and innovate products. However, I think the challenge for open source is that often times several different groups are writing competing code for competing projects will little consideration of the massive duplication (witness many distributions of Linux, many of which are functionally identical) in efforts. The successful projects in the open source world are projects that can agree on standards, organize factions of programmers, and distribute to a wide audience.
So, I looked at the NewsBot site and I suppose it's swell, but I still like GoogleNews better. Why? Maybe because deep inside I like Google and their business model better. I think Microsoft, who is not really loved among the masses (and I am a Windows user; I like XP although I use OpenOffice instead of Office XP/'03) doesn't really do much for itself when it slaps its brand on a product.
Also, I have to wonder if MSN will make the classic mistake of making it overbloated like the rest of its sites. I see that now there is no advertising on it but when will that change? Also, I see the cheesie MSN banner on it. When will MSN start forcing you to sign into passport or worse Hotmail (gag) to get the news.
Google is simple. Low bandwith (with an option for lower bandwidth yet if you want). There is no advertising on the news page. There is no need to sign into the collective.
Yup. That is so true.
And they stole Windows from...was it Xerox?
They claim all of this innovation, but many of their good ideas are simply pimped from others.
Eat that Microsoft!
I'm not sure how long they can hold out, but I tire of every innovation being eaten up by Microsoft. For me, the frustration goes back to PowerPoint, a once fine program.
I'm disturbed at the DRM developments with Office 2003, but...
I wonder if the ultimate end of this will be the development of a good third party file format that Microsoft will have to form to. Perhaps XLM? Perhaps Super-RTM?
With Norton products scheduled for product activation starting with Antivirus 2004, I wonder if Mircosoft considers phone home technology part of their greater product activation scheme. It would be amusing watching Symantic and Mircosoft battle it out.:)
I wonder if this technology will evolve into technology to support automobile travel. There have been many attempts to develop technologies to allow for automated auto travel from laying copper wire for navigation systems to using object sensors in bumpers. Maybe GPS is the way to go! Of course, the BMW's of the world will get it first!
Although I think that SCO's claims are totally without foundation, I wonder if, in the end, there is just a little bit to this and SCO it blowing it out of porportion. The implication I read in the article was that it wasn't lie as in fabrication, but lie as in there wasn't enough evidence to support such a strong claim.
Assuming that it is workable and of reasonable quality, this is a huge development. I'd particularly recomment the BBC4 program "I'm Sorry I Haven't a Club," an amazing improv show.
Now, Vonnage and Packet8 will start to suck as much as the phone companies current regulated by the states. Qwest is sucktastic, and you complain to the state and they basically tell you there is nothing they can do...but, hey, they are regulating!
I've been looking and I do see information on Trillian and the MSN issue. Isn't Trillian shut off from MSN along with others October 15th? I use Trillian, however, I'll admit I've gone back to the native MSN client with version 6, which is vastly superior to 5.x.
You are right: we should migrate to a more open and friendly service. However, the problem with the Messenger marketshare battle is that anyone that wants to communicate with a wide variety of individuals must install and maintain several clients. How many of you have MSN *and* AOL *and* ICQ *and* Yahoo Messenger (okay, three of you on Yahoo!) *and* Jabber? It's pure madness. I know someone that keeps a side computer on 24/7 just for chat clients (okay, so that's a bit much, but...).
I think one could argue that this is a beginning step to eventually charge for the service. Initially, the Messenger has an open network to encourage alternative clients to increase use in their battle to unseat Instant Messenger. Now that MSN has it's own foothold, it seems they are going to shun what helped make them popular. I wonder, too, if this has anything to so with the fact that so many alternative OS users access the MSN network via the alternative client software.
I think that's very interesting in that I'm not sure that the United States has really shifted space policy paradigms after the Cold War ended. Certainly, we cooperate more (the ISS, for example) but do we fund the space program as as a science policy project as opposed to the pre-1990's when we funded as if it was a Cold War tool?
I'd have to agree. I think this is especially true for schools and the educational community. For small and medium sized schools and districts, there is simply no real decent licensing agreements that allow purchasing new applications. I know of at least 3 districts that still run Office 97, for example, because they couldn't afford the upgrades every 2 years, even at the educational price.
I think in light of the surveys that suggest that the public now questions the value of our space exploration, these types of public relations moves ("stunts") are very important to make our space projects accessable to the public-at-large.
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OKAY...I'll admit it. OSX is the best. How dare I question. Enjoy your 5% market share.
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OSX is Linux based, in case you haven't updated since 7.4.1.
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Although I could never afford one of these machines (I'll admit it, I'd pick one up if I had a wad of cash), it might be worth picking up since I think it will be the last in an era. The next generation of Apple computers will run Intel or AMD 64 bit processors with the Linux-based OSX.
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Well, yeah, Bill doesn't sit in his office and say, "you know what? I really want Office '03 to use XML." But I think we're talking metaphores here...
Most certainly, that is true. But I wonder if (and I'm just thinking out loud here) that's why much of Microsoft software is bloated and bug-ridden. Gates demends software does X and Y to expand feature but the coding and innovation required might be the code version of moving mountains. In the community open-source model, many features get coded because there is a community movement towards it as it works into the code slowly and incrementally. Just a thought...
...is that open source software, assuming it can weather legal and business challenges (**cough**SCO?**cough**), will always have an army of part time coders and testers that will work out holes, plug leaks and innovate products. However, I think the challenge for open source is that often times several different groups are writing competing code for competing projects will little consideration of the massive duplication (witness many distributions of Linux, many of which are functionally identical) in efforts. The successful projects in the open source world are projects that can agree on standards, organize factions of programmers, and distribute to a wide audience.
So, I looked at the NewsBot site and I suppose it's swell, but I still like GoogleNews better. Why? Maybe because deep inside I like Google and their business model better. I think Microsoft, who is not really loved among the masses (and I am a Windows user; I like XP although I use OpenOffice instead of Office XP/'03) doesn't really do much for itself when it slaps its brand on a product. Also, I have to wonder if MSN will make the classic mistake of making it overbloated like the rest of its sites. I see that now there is no advertising on it but when will that change? Also, I see the cheesie MSN banner on it. When will MSN start forcing you to sign into passport or worse Hotmail (gag) to get the news. Google is simple. Low bandwith (with an option for lower bandwidth yet if you want). There is no advertising on the news page. There is no need to sign into the collective.
I don't think that anyone was claiming that Microsoft was alone in purchasing their way (or stealing their way) to innovation...
Yup. That is so true. And they stole Windows from...was it Xerox? They claim all of this innovation, but many of their good ideas are simply pimped from others.
Eat that Microsoft! I'm not sure how long they can hold out, but I tire of every innovation being eaten up by Microsoft. For me, the frustration goes back to PowerPoint, a once fine program.
I'm disturbed at the DRM developments with Office 2003, but...
I wonder if the ultimate end of this will be the development of a good third party file format that Microsoft will have to form to. Perhaps XLM? Perhaps Super-RTM?
Doesn't this just prove they are out for cash?
With Norton products scheduled for product activation starting with Antivirus 2004, I wonder if Mircosoft considers phone home technology part of their greater product activation scheme. It would be amusing watching Symantic and Mircosoft battle it out. :)
I wonder if this technology will evolve into technology to support automobile travel. There have been many attempts to develop technologies to allow for automated auto travel from laying copper wire for navigation systems to using object sensors in bumpers. Maybe GPS is the way to go! Of course, the BMW's of the world will get it first!
Although I think that SCO's claims are totally without foundation, I wonder if, in the end, there is just a little bit to this and SCO it blowing it out of porportion. The implication I read in the article was that it wasn't lie as in fabrication, but lie as in there wasn't enough evidence to support such a strong claim.
Assuming that it is workable and of reasonable quality, this is a huge development. I'd particularly recomment the BBC4 program "I'm Sorry I Haven't a Club," an amazing improv show.
Now, Vonnage and Packet8 will start to suck as much as the phone companies current regulated by the states. Qwest is sucktastic, and you complain to the state and they basically tell you there is nothing they can do...but, hey, they are regulating!
I've been looking and I do see information on Trillian and the MSN issue. Isn't Trillian shut off from MSN along with others October 15th? I use Trillian, however, I'll admit I've gone back to the native MSN client with version 6, which is vastly superior to 5.x.
You are right: we should migrate to a more open and friendly service. However, the problem with the Messenger marketshare battle is that anyone that wants to communicate with a wide variety of individuals must install and maintain several clients. How many of you have MSN *and* AOL *and* ICQ *and* Yahoo Messenger (okay, three of you on Yahoo!) *and* Jabber? It's pure madness. I know someone that keeps a side computer on 24/7 just for chat clients (okay, so that's a bit much, but...).
I think one could argue that this is a beginning step to eventually charge for the service. Initially, the Messenger has an open network to encourage alternative clients to increase use in their battle to unseat Instant Messenger. Now that MSN has it's own foothold, it seems they are going to shun what helped make them popular. I wonder, too, if this has anything to so with the fact that so many alternative OS users access the MSN network via the alternative client software.
I think that's very interesting in that I'm not sure that the United States has really shifted space policy paradigms after the Cold War ended. Certainly, we cooperate more (the ISS, for example) but do we fund the space program as as a science policy project as opposed to the pre-1990's when we funded as if it was a Cold War tool?
I'd have to agree. I think this is especially true for schools and the educational community. For small and medium sized schools and districts, there is simply no real decent licensing agreements that allow purchasing new applications. I know of at least 3 districts that still run Office 97, for example, because they couldn't afford the upgrades every 2 years, even at the educational price.
I think in light of the surveys that suggest that the public now questions the value of our space exploration, these types of public relations moves ("stunts") are very important to make our space projects accessable to the public-at-large.
OKAY...I'll admit it. OSX is the best. How dare I question. Enjoy your 5% market share.
Very insightful. Blarg.
OSX is Linux based, in case you haven't updated since 7.4.1.
The best you have is retarded? Nice one.
Although I could never afford one of these machines (I'll admit it, I'd pick one up if I had a wad of cash), it might be worth picking up since I think it will be the last in an era. The next generation of Apple computers will run Intel or AMD 64 bit processors with the Linux-based OSX.