I disagree...when we start writing scripts for non-human users, skynet will be able to find Sarah Conner that much more easily. Screw those non-human users!;)
If spaces are a problem, use tr to translate them to underscores during the script to deal with them. Is the spacebar really worth three hours of flame?
Seriously:
man tr
I work IT for a small company that provides outsourced IT services to other business/individuals. While your worries are understandable, there are a myriad of reasons (already given) as to how founded your fears are. I can tell you from personal experience though that you should likely consider a few things - 1 - remote management is cheaper than having to roll someone onsite every time someone needs a printer added or an email issue resolved. If you're paying the same amount for onsite support as remote support, there's something wrong there & you should renegotiate your contract. 2 - I don't know your skill level but most people in management could be standing behind the sysadmin watching everything he's doing on screen and still not understand what they're seeing. A talented thief could steal data while you watch him/and/ he's 'explaining' what it is he's doing. That's just the way it is unfortunately and it gives all IT people a bad name when it happens. 3 - Something my dad told me a long time ago is that a lock only serves to keep an honest man honest. If someone truly wants to get into your building and get your sensitive data out of there, then they will...The minute you build an idiotproof system, the world produces a better idiot. 4 - While I know this doesn't apply to all people working in IT everywhere, I can tell you from my own experience and talking with others in the field - most IT folks in an outsourcing business don't really care/what/ data you have - as long as it's not illegal...most of us are just too busy to care what your data is, we only worry that the job we do helps protect your investment so that you'll keep paying us. The better service we do for you, the more likely you are to continue to pay us. Hell you might even refer us to other business associates. Which means more work for us. There's always going to be some asshat out there that wants to profit illegally...IT people are no more likely to be that person than someone in Accounting...or Management. It's just that there's a certain mysticism to what we do that people don't understand. If you don't trust the people you've hired, get rid of them and find someone you do trust, but eventually you have to stop watching the watchmen.
Yes I know reviving is the author's word. Sorry I wasn't clear enough on that. That's why I said '...these grabasses'. Sorry if I offended you or anyone else with the comment, but it was intended/aimed at the people doing the 'reporting' such as it is, not the people of the/. community;)
As for 'idiotic attitude', I'm not sure I grok what you mean. Reading back over my post, I see perhaps passive aggressiveness, again aimed at the 'reporter(s)' but idiotic? I don't hesitate to admit when I'm being stupid, but this time, I think I was just being factual...if a little under-enthusiastic about it.
And 'IF community'? Not sure what you're referencing.
Tal
Big deal. What's all this talk about 'reviving' the text based culture? I suppose these grabasses haven't bothered to look around for Muds, Mushes, Moos and the like. Hell, I've been running a mush for the last 4 years and have a good number of people playing on there. There's no 'reviving'...just people who haven't played them noticing us people that do play them once again.
And free downloadable text games? Bah, get TF, go to winter.mushpark.com 3000 and create a character. Fully playable MMORPG...in all its textual glory...and it's not the only one.
Maybe it's just me. I dig the bigger, better, faster, quieter debate, but what are you trying to sneak up on with your PC that you have to completely silence it?
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I disagree...when we start writing scripts for non-human users, skynet will be able to find Sarah Conner that much more easily. Screw those non-human users! ;)
If spaces are a problem, use tr to translate them to underscores during the script to deal with them. Is the spacebar really worth three hours of flame? Seriously: man tr
I work IT for a small company that provides outsourced IT services to other business/individuals. While your worries are understandable, there are a myriad of reasons (already given) as to how founded your fears are. I can tell you from personal experience though that you should likely consider a few things - 1 - remote management is cheaper than having to roll someone onsite every time someone needs a printer added or an email issue resolved. If you're paying the same amount for onsite support as remote support, there's something wrong there & you should renegotiate your contract. 2 - I don't know your skill level but most people in management could be standing behind the sysadmin watching everything he's doing on screen and still not understand what they're seeing. A talented thief could steal data while you watch him /and/ he's 'explaining' what it is he's doing. That's just the way it is unfortunately and it gives all IT people a bad name when it happens. 3 - Something my dad told me a long time ago is that a lock only serves to keep an honest man honest. If someone truly wants to get into your building and get your sensitive data out of there, then they will...The minute you build an idiotproof system, the world produces a better idiot. 4 - While I know this doesn't apply to all people working in IT everywhere, I can tell you from my own experience and talking with others in the field - most IT folks in an outsourcing business don't really care /what/ data you have - as long as it's not illegal...most of us are just too busy to care what your data is, we only worry that the job we do helps protect your investment so that you'll keep paying us. The better service we do for you, the more likely you are to continue to pay us. Hell you might even refer us to other business associates. Which means more work for us. There's always going to be some asshat out there that wants to profit illegally...IT people are no more likely to be that person than someone in Accounting...or Management. It's just that there's a certain mysticism to what we do that people don't understand. If you don't trust the people you've hired, get rid of them and find someone you do trust, but eventually you have to stop watching the watchmen.
Yes I know reviving is the author's word. Sorry I wasn't clear enough on that. That's why I said '...these grabasses'. Sorry if I offended you or anyone else with the comment, but it was intended/aimed at the people doing the 'reporting' such as it is, not the people of the /. community ;)
As for 'idiotic attitude', I'm not sure I grok what you mean. Reading back over my post, I see perhaps passive aggressiveness, again aimed at the 'reporter(s)' but idiotic? I don't hesitate to admit when I'm being stupid, but this time, I think I was just being factual...if a little under-enthusiastic about it.
And 'IF community'? Not sure what you're referencing.
Tal
Big deal. What's all this talk about 'reviving' the text based culture? I suppose these grabasses haven't bothered to look around for Muds, Mushes, Moos and the like. Hell, I've been running a mush for the last 4 years and have a good number of people playing on there. There's no 'reviving'...just people who haven't played them noticing us people that do play them once again.
And free downloadable text games? Bah, get TF, go to winter.mushpark.com 3000 and create a character. Fully playable MMORPG...in all its textual glory...and it's not the only one.
Maybe it's just me. I dig the bigger, better, faster, quieter debate, but what are you trying to sneak up on with your PC that you have to completely silence it? Taladan