No, this is a service. Not even an essential service, either. Don't like the terms? Don't sign up. This has nothing to do with the free market, and nothing to do with how secure it is, or the fact it's "voice". Don't like JiffyLube's uniforms? Go somewhere else. Don't like Telco-X's VoIP terms? Go somewhere else.
And that defends the ridiculously priced wages how? Exactly. It doesn't.
Your argument has so many holes in it it's unbelievable. Just because you and your buddies get paid that amount doesn't mean it's the right amount to be paid. Your job isn't worth that much. It's not exactly hard to develop, hardly rocket science or being a doctor. And, further more, just because salary.com strokes your financial ego, doesn't the salaries are just.
I know $75k in India is a heck of a lot of money, but do developers really need to be paid that much? I certainly don't think so. It's not a hard job, yet developers scream that they need lots of money. It's hardly being a doctor, is it? If developers reduced their salaries, less companies would outsource. It's that simple. Of course, highly-paid developers will argue for their high salaries until they're blue in the face...
$75k is INCREDIBLY OVER THE TOP for developer's wage. That's why jobs are going overseas. It's supply and demand (funnily enough, the same supply and demand the US loved when it was supplying its demand, not the other way around).
My post was just a quick point about the state of wages in the US with regards to outsourcing, nothing more;)
I'd rephrase that question - "With the high salaries IT workers are requesting, is outsourcing surpising?"
I'm not trying to start a flame war or troll or whatever, but seriously. Reading through this thread I've seen numerous references to how much coders make. $75k->$100k+. And people on here still moan about outsourcing. Consider a company can pay someone in India/wherever closer to $7k a year and get the same service, what the hell do people expect? It's that good ol' free market the US instigated. I seriously can't understand how any averagely-intelligent person can blame India or the government for outsourcing.
Apart from the fact AIM has been around for years, is incredibly stable, ISN'T BETA, and has a real, professional support team working to keep it that way. I know people here love to defend their open-source apps, but really. Objectivity doesn't hurt.
"Flip flopping" is what you call an intelligent person learning something, and changing their perspective based upon that. Only a republican could use the learning process against someone. Although, seeing who's in charge, that starts to make sense.
If you learn something that makes you change your mind, shouldn't you follow that by changing your actions? I mean, after all, we were all born knowing nothing and have since learned stuff. By your definition, we're all terminal flip-floppers.
And let's not get into the whole "Al Qaida/WMD/Human rights" reasons behind going into Iraq. That was true flipflopping - making up stories to cover ones ass.
You're not actually showing why he's wrong, just screaming that he used to be in the linux camp and is now touting MS. It's hardly a good debating tactic (unless you're a republican:-P).
Instead of looking for behind-the-scenes back-handers, actually stand up and show why he's wrong.
Still, personally, I can kinda see where he's going with his arguments. I don't agree 100%, but there is at least a grain of truth behind them. Of course, this is slashdot, so I'm getting the fire-extinguishers ready;)
Because it's slashdot! Damn anyone to hell who has a problem with recommending buggy alternatives to people running polished finalised software with very minor bugs! Damn them to hades!:-P
P2P isn't an actual entertainment medium. Comparing it to cinema is pretty silly, as no-one makes films only for P2P - they pirate films and release them through P2P. I know we all love P2P and hate congress here, but they have more of an argument than you do. By far.
They've been toying with checking serial numbers on install, and when the user uses "windows update". The SP2 I downloaded didn't check the serial for validity on install, but did check on using "windows update". Of course that doesn't matter, as you can change your serial in under 4 seconds, and even download a keygen that can give you a key that gives you a product ID (when used) that falls in the required "valid" range.
I think Microsoft just wants it on as many computers as it can.
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Another ignorant American spouting off about stuff he heard his dad moaning about back in the day. Get a clue, then start posting comments. At least that way you can argue a good point and not just pull a bunch of stuff out your arse and present it as fact. sheesh.
You've got the wrong end of the stick with that example. The usual example goes like this:
$arr[index]=$value
$arr["index"]=$value
Where you can see that PHP, unless index is a constant, will look for an entry with an index of "index", which understandably could cause problems (even though I've never seen that cause a problem, personally).
That's not a particularly good argument against scrapping an entire language, though. If you've read some of the PHP manual, you don't make those mistakes. And, believe it or not, it's easy to make rudimentary errors in any language. That doesn't mean we should stop programming computers, does it?;)
Any language is easy to make mistakes in. That's because people code it. True, you can block in HTML and PHP in the same document, but only a fool would think that's all PHP can do (or even that PHP somehow gets off on doing that). There are a plethora of PHP templating engines out there. Can't find one you like? Write your own in under 100 lines of code. It's that simple. Saying that's a major reason why PHP isn't enterprise-ready is just plain stupid.
I've coded and deployed applications written in PHP throughout the company I work at, and they perform flawlessly. Maybe that's because I have an ounce of understanding what it takes to be a programmer. I'm not great, yet I can manage to pull it off without any problems.
Then, you go top it off with pure speculation about the ideology behind PHP. Again, this shows you really don't have a clue about PHP.
PHP is a very versatile, very powerful cross-platform tool. You can make shitty web apps in it, but then you can in any language. It's just as powerful/useful/stable as any other language out there.
sheesh.
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That's the funny thing, though. Bombard lead with enough intense radiation, and you'll most likely end up with some gold. Traces of gold have been found in decommissioned nuclear reactor walls before. All those alchemists were obviously miles away from the truth if they thought rubbing a mouse on some lead would make gold (or whatever it was), but their initial premise (lead -> gold) was not only theoretically possible, but has now been proven.
That's the thing - they did use the most efficient/difficult/brag-worthy route to completion. Any other route (including linux) would have required a LOT more work, more than they could have been expected to do. Crusoe chips and 1gb of memory could fit in your hand and you'd not notice. We're talking two small wafers of electronics. They didn't bolt a P4 to the side, but came up with an elegant embedded solution, which can talk to every piece of hardware they need it to, and be small enough to fly where ever they tell it to. If they'd been using linux for the project (with all due respect) they'd probably have spent more time getting linux to talk to the various peripherals than making the flying vehicle itself.
Credit where credit's due - it's a truly great feat of engineering.
XP Embedded is as stable as any embedded software can be. Obviously, you don't know anything about it, otherwise you wouldn't have vented your asshole spewing forth such incredible nonsense. How you managed to go from one word in quotes to a semi-apocalyptic world several years from now, filled with planes running Windows XP Professional falling from the skies killing everyone and everything is truly scary, and shows exactly how fanboy zealots think.
You can get a tiny 1gb SD card, and mount a 800mhz crusoe chip on it:) They're both absolutely tiny. Heck, I got my hands on a P4 chip the other day, and it was smaller than any keychain I've ever seen. Tiny.
Wow. Another great example of non-biassed thinking. It's a completely different OS, and one specifically built for mission-critical applications. How you managed to think it would have the same EULA (or even similar) to XP Pro (a desktop OS for normal folks) is beyond me.
"Waah! The linux community is talking out of its ass, but only because Microsoft does, too!"
Really mature argument. Your excessive use of "M$" also shows how intelligent your points are. You're adding weight to my argument with every word:)
Thanks for your energetic response, but the fact that you'll always pick a linux tool over a windows one shows what a limited IT professional you are. I mean there are plenty of times when a windows solution is better than a linux one, and in that situation, you're going to pick the worse tool because of your ideology. That's a disability in my book.
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sheesh. Is it that hard to understand?
Your argument has so many holes in it it's unbelievable. Just because you and your buddies get paid that amount doesn't mean it's the right amount to be paid. Your job isn't worth that much. It's not exactly hard to develop, hardly rocket science or being a doctor. And, further more, just because salary.com strokes your financial ego, doesn't the salaries are just.
I know $75k in India is a heck of a lot of money, but do developers really need to be paid that much? I certainly don't think so. It's not a hard job, yet developers scream that they need lots of money. It's hardly being a doctor, is it? If developers reduced their salaries, less companies would outsource. It's that simple. Of course, highly-paid developers will argue for their high salaries until they're blue in the face...
$75k is INCREDIBLY OVER THE TOP for developer's wage. That's why jobs are going overseas. It's supply and demand (funnily enough, the same supply and demand the US loved when it was supplying its demand, not the other way around).
My post was just a quick point about the state of wages in the US with regards to outsourcing, nothing more ;)
I'm not trying to start a flame war or troll or whatever, but seriously. Reading through this thread I've seen numerous references to how much coders make. $75k->$100k+. And people on here still moan about outsourcing. Consider a company can pay someone in India/wherever closer to $7k a year and get the same service, what the hell do people expect? It's that good ol' free market the US instigated. I seriously can't understand how any averagely-intelligent person can blame India or the government for outsourcing.
Waah! Why do they keep outsourcing our jobs! Waah. $75k a year. What do you expect?
Apart from the fact AIM has been around for years, is incredibly stable, ISN'T BETA, and has a real, professional support team working to keep it that way. I know people here love to defend their open-source apps, but really. Objectivity doesn't hurt.
Americanization is probably a better term from a global perspective ;)
If you learn something that makes you change your mind, shouldn't you follow that by changing your actions? I mean, after all, we were all born knowing nothing and have since learned stuff. By your definition, we're all terminal flip-floppers.
And let's not get into the whole "Al Qaida/WMD/Human rights" reasons behind going into Iraq. That was true flipflopping - making up stories to cover ones ass.
Turn off fox and go read a book.
Instead of looking for behind-the-scenes back-handers, actually stand up and show why he's wrong.
Still, personally, I can kinda see where he's going with his arguments. I don't agree 100%, but there is at least a grain of truth behind them. Of course, this is slashdot, so I'm getting the fire-extinguishers ready ;)
Rule of thumb: Everyone on /. will recommend a solution infinitely more complex than that they suggest replacing
Because it's slashdot! Damn anyone to hell who has a problem with recommending buggy alternatives to people running polished finalised software with very minor bugs! Damn them to hades! :-P
If you're going to assume things about an OS you're using in a mission-critical role, you need help. sheesh.
P2P isn't an actual entertainment medium. Comparing it to cinema is pretty silly, as no-one makes films only for P2P - they pirate films and release them through P2P. I know we all love P2P and hate congress here, but they have more of an argument than you do. By far.
You can do the exact same thing with Windows too... not everything cool is linux-only, you know ;)
I think Microsoft just wants it on as many computers as it can.
Another ignorant American spouting off about stuff he heard his dad moaning about back in the day. Get a clue, then start posting comments. At least that way you can argue a good point and not just pull a bunch of stuff out your arse and present it as fact. sheesh.
$arr[index]=$value
$arr["index"]=$value
Where you can see that PHP, unless index is a constant, will look for an entry with an index of "index", which understandably could cause problems (even though I've never seen that cause a problem, personally).
That's not a particularly good argument against scrapping an entire language, though. If you've read some of the PHP manual, you don't make those mistakes. And, believe it or not, it's easy to make rudimentary errors in any language. That doesn't mean we should stop programming computers, does it? ;)
Any language is easy to make mistakes in. That's because people code it. True, you can block in HTML and PHP in the same document, but only a fool would think that's all PHP can do (or even that PHP somehow gets off on doing that). There are a plethora of PHP templating engines out there. Can't find one you like? Write your own in under 100 lines of code. It's that simple. Saying that's a major reason why PHP isn't enterprise-ready is just plain stupid.
I've coded and deployed applications written in PHP throughout the company I work at, and they perform flawlessly. Maybe that's because I have an ounce of understanding what it takes to be a programmer. I'm not great, yet I can manage to pull it off without any problems.
Then, you go top it off with pure speculation about the ideology behind PHP. Again, this shows you really don't have a clue about PHP.
PHP is a very versatile, very powerful cross-platform tool. You can make shitty web apps in it, but then you can in any language. It's just as powerful/useful/stable as any other language out there.
sheesh.
That's the funny thing, though. Bombard lead with enough intense radiation, and you'll most likely end up with some gold. Traces of gold have been found in decommissioned nuclear reactor walls before. All those alchemists were obviously miles away from the truth if they thought rubbing a mouse on some lead would make gold (or whatever it was), but their initial premise (lead -> gold) was not only theoretically possible, but has now been proven.
Credit where credit's due - it's a truly great feat of engineering.
XP Embedded is as stable as any embedded software can be. Obviously, you don't know anything about it, otherwise you wouldn't have vented your asshole spewing forth such incredible nonsense. How you managed to go from one word in quotes to a semi-apocalyptic world several years from now, filled with planes running Windows XP Professional falling from the skies killing everyone and everything is truly scary, and shows exactly how fanboy zealots think.
You can get a tiny 1gb SD card, and mount a 800mhz crusoe chip on it :) They're both absolutely tiny. Heck, I got my hands on a P4 chip the other day, and it was smaller than any keychain I've ever seen. Tiny.
Wow. Another great example of non-biassed thinking. It's a completely different OS, and one specifically built for mission-critical applications. How you managed to think it would have the same EULA (or even similar) to XP Pro (a desktop OS for normal folks) is beyond me.
Really mature argument. Your excessive use of "M$" also shows how intelligent your points are. You're adding weight to my argument with every word :)
Thanks for your energetic response, but the fact that you'll always pick a linux tool over a windows one shows what a limited IT professional you are. I mean there are plenty of times when a windows solution is better than a linux one, and in that situation, you're going to pick the worse tool because of your ideology. That's a disability in my book.
You must have a very understanding employer :)