Why did you write that utter mess? Instead of making shit up and assuming that a thousand years ago people making horseshoes were using acetylene how about you spend a few minutes getting a clue.
Steel doesn't need to melt to get very soft. Think of blacksmiths with charcoal making horseshoes many years back.
Jet fuel plus paper plus sawdust is going to burn a bit hotter than that blacksmith would have needed with the horseshoes. Hot steel beams softened, buckled and the building fell down.
You are the one projecting them on me with your strawman construction so you know far better than I do where they came from.
All I've pointing out is the utterly obvious thing you can see from any source you look at anywhere that poor people as a group commit more crime than groups of people who do not live in poverty. No fantasy there.
In a large building like that there is absolutely no reason for the floors below to be affected. Floors do not cascade on to one another either, which is where you do show your ignorance. When one floor collapses on to another it collapses on to the eighty or however many floors below bound together in one whole structure. Tall buildings have to be built that way, otherwise they would be dangerously unstable.
Dynamic loading not static, just the same as the front of your car can support a lot of weight but it goes squish when you run it into a wall. If you can't grasp that then picture what happens when you hit things with a hammer. In this case all the weight of the floors above came down like a hammer - the difference between having a hammer sitting on a glass table and swinging it down quickly. Pulling a book out of the middle of a tall stack is another example. As the books above drop onto the lower stack it will buckle under the impact and more then just the books above the removed book will fall over. You've seen it yourself haven't you?
and the pancake tripe has been pushed every time this comes up
Because it is not only true and somewhat obvious but has also been very frequently observed. Impact. Squish.
The bits where you called others ignorant are very entertaining considering how badly you have messed it up. Try playing with that lego and meccano with a bit of motion and you'll get things to a high school level.
Dynamic not static. Think of impacts The top floor came down like a hammer on the floor below, those two came down on the one underneath and so on. Perfectly normal and it happens a lot when buildings fall down. Watch some demolition videos and you'll see it over and over again. Watch some videos of buildings on fire and you'll see it over and over again.
It just doesn't look right to you because Hollywood is always having buildings fall over like cardboard boxes and that is what you are used to. Like a lot of things in film it's nothing like the real thing.
E-paper would be a terrible display for this purpose. It can't change fast enough to work as an activity light
Your information is years out of date. I've been using an ssh application on an ereader and I've been getting around half a second refresh. There's also a debian distro for the pocket Kobo from maybe three years back that has an on screen clock that updates in seconds - so less than one second refresh there.
it's not trustworthy for lower rate status monitoring like power on
That is a point - unless you have moving bar or something.
Programmers who install telnet servers anywhere should be shot
Some legacy software needs it. I had to use some like that until around ten years ago on some machines that were heavily firewalled off from the rest of the world. Developers who make their software depend on telnet are the ones that should be shot. All these expected IoT failures are due to software developers out of their depth taking shortcuts and fucking up badly. The fucking MSDOS single user don't give a shit about security mindset is how this shit happens.
You're still making the same correlation vs causation mistake, that poverty causes crime
Mistake? You can see it everywhere, white trash or any other ethnic group living right next to much richer people with a lot to steal. As for your massive strawman construction, how about sticking to the point instead of bringing in irrelevant shit where you have no fucking idea what I think one way or another?
We already treat blacks better than everyone else
And you accused me of having fantasies?
Why are you pushing so fucking hard in denial of reality? Are you working for a political party or something?
Bullshit. It's in the report linked else where - buckling and the whole thing came down just like in thousands of fires.
Slashdot - where coder boys spew words they do not understand at engineers and think they should be taken seriously despite not knowing shit about what they are talking about. How about you spend a couple of years reading about solid mechanics and then get back to us when you have finally started to understand that you don't "know about buildings" but you've got a little bit of a grip on the concepts. Then you may be a bit less reluctant to put down those of us in the "reality based community" when we discuss buildings catching fire and falling down.
Debate? You are just doing a local version of holocaust denial despite things like the report into the building collapse being linked in this very discussion. Yes you "win" by getting plenty of anger from people who think you are lower than dirt for doing this shit - congrats on your "win". Do you piss on soldiers graves as an encore?
It's a distro where you pretty well just tick boxes you want and get something that works out the other end. No mucking about with driver disks so in a lot of cases much easier than installing MS Windows. Other people already put in the time and drives are a lot closer to free than they used to be.
Typically smelting is a chemical process so it needs heat and a reducing agent (eg. CO). Just melting rocks doesn't get a lot done unless you add other rocks.
Longer answer - China and Russia care less about the problem you have identified with living in space for long periods of time. It remains to be seen if they have the will or commitment to take the steps but colonists with a reduced lifespan are not seen as a showstopper.
We've been there in the west not so long ago and may still be in that situation in some places - dangerous jobs were not so uncommon only a couple of generations back. My grandfather worked at a mine where apparently nobody lived past fifty. Attitudes have changed but may change back.
Instead of making us feel sick here why don't you go watch some Vegas demolition videos or disaster footage. Buildings don't just have bits fall off or topple like cardboard boxes like they do in the Hollywood movies.
Also you've already seen why this happened you just are not thinking clearly. Surely you've seen at least on TV if not anywhere else a smith heating up steel so it's soft enough to work? Hot structural steel cannot support the weight above so the whole thing collapses - simple as that.
Wind back a couple of decades and these people would not be classified as Autistic. It's seen as a disability for historical reasons from when high functioning people were not on the list
"Being liked by the sort of people put in charge of hiring" shouldn't be a job qualification.
Mod this up to 11. I'm sick of the HR types who stalk everyone on Facebook instead of working coming up with lists of nice people who are not qualified for a job, then finding out that there were actually a large number of qualified applicants who didn't like the same sports as the HR people or something.
Holy crap. Look, I fucking hate George W. Bush, and the Saudis even more, but that "they let the Saudis leave the country" thing is just garbage
That bit was true but they were not the only ones flying out while most planes were grounded. "They" let a lot of people leave the country and not just that half a dozen Saudis with strong connections to Bush.
I have never bought the Pearl Harbor thing either
In hindsight a lot of intelligence reports from the lot of sources warned about it but it's likely they just didn't make it up the chain of command in time. The explorer Sir Hubert Wilkes was one who sent a report in from Japan but not being an American he may not have been taken seriously. The conspiracy theory hinges a lot of people having an operation like a well oiled machine and then doing something really stupid with it. Reality looks like a failure to listen and a failure to act.
"The Americans wanting to get rid of the World Trade Center"? That's a new one. Just when I think you conspiracy nuts can't sink any lower, you rise to the occasion.
Americans commit more crime. That's just the reality in which we live. By statistics you are far more likely to commit a crime than I, while I suppose I'm far more likely to be eaten by a crocodile.
Getting the point yet about groupings often being completely irrelevant? The way the poor are treated in the USA seems almost designed to encourage crime. The race metric you are using only looks like it makes sense because of disproportionate poverty by race, and because it reinforces your belief about race. While it gives you a nice warm fuzzy feeling that your race is the best it's got nothing to do with it.
That's not the approach Powell and the advisors from the Pentagon were going to take. This isn't a left versus right issue. It's an issue of whoever would be in power at the time of a deal taking the credit - until it was totally fucked up.
Are you complaining that it's crappy or are you complaining that the reboot isn't exactly like the original
Both really. Crappy plus a totally different setting where starships can park underwater, belts can teleport you across the galaxy and Klingons are weaklings to beat up on. A vast way from "exactly" - why stay in orbit in hundreds of episodes when you can just land in a lake? The reboots are not self-consistent even within the span of an hour or two.
The reboot depends both on fan memory and then brings in complete rejection of it. The Khan remake is beyond understanding without seeing pre-reboot trek yet depends on being in a totally different universe. Instead of doing a totally new story or doing something that could exist in the original setting Abrams just took the earlier story, turned it inside out and backwards then shat all over it. It was amazed that somebody could make a film with that cast and still have it turn out as crap.
I'm a B5 fan and not a trekkie and really loved Galaxy Quest which shamelessly made fun of Trek, but the Trek reboot is just crap SF feeding off a captive audience IMHO.
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Why did you write that utter mess? Instead of making shit up and assuming that a thousand years ago people making horseshoes were using acetylene how about you spend a few minutes getting a clue.
Steel doesn't need to melt to get very soft.
Think of blacksmiths with charcoal making horseshoes many years back.
Jet fuel plus paper plus sawdust is going to burn a bit hotter than that blacksmith would have needed with the horseshoes. Hot steel beams softened, buckled and the building fell down.
You are the one projecting them on me with your strawman construction so you know far better than I do where they came from.
All I've pointing out is the utterly obvious thing you can see from any source you look at anywhere that poor people as a group commit more crime than groups of people who do not live in poverty. No fantasy there.
Dynamic loading not static, just the same as the front of your car can support a lot of weight but it goes squish when you run it into a wall.
If you can't grasp that then picture what happens when you hit things with a hammer.
In this case all the weight of the floors above came down like a hammer - the difference between having a hammer sitting on a glass table and swinging it down quickly.
Pulling a book out of the middle of a tall stack is another example. As the books above drop onto the lower stack it will buckle under the impact and more then just the books above the removed book will fall over. You've seen it yourself haven't you?
Because it is not only true and somewhat obvious but has also been very frequently observed. Impact. Squish.
The bits where you called others ignorant are very entertaining considering how badly you have messed it up. Try playing with that lego and meccano with a bit of motion and you'll get things to a high school level.
Dynamic not static.
Think of impacts
The top floor came down like a hammer on the floor below, those two came down on the one underneath and so on.
Perfectly normal and it happens a lot when buildings fall down.
Watch some demolition videos and you'll see it over and over again. Watch some videos of buildings on fire and you'll see it over and over again.
It just doesn't look right to you because Hollywood is always having buildings fall over like cardboard boxes and that is what you are used to. Like a lot of things in film it's nothing like the real thing.
Your information is years out of date. I've been using an ssh application on an ereader and I've been getting around half a second refresh. There's also a debian distro for the pocket Kobo from maybe three years back that has an on screen clock that updates in seconds - so less than one second refresh there.
That is a point - unless you have moving bar or something.
Don't panic - some distros keep on patching those old kernels. That "Very long term release" is called RHEL, CentOS and probably a few others.
Some legacy software needs it. I had to use some like that until around ten years ago on some machines that were heavily firewalled off from the rest of the world.
Developers who make their software depend on telnet are the ones that should be shot. All these expected IoT failures are due to software developers out of their depth taking shortcuts and fucking up badly. The fucking MSDOS single user don't give a shit about security mindset is how this shit happens.
Mistake?
You can see it everywhere, white trash or any other ethnic group living right next to much richer people with a lot to steal.
As for your massive strawman construction, how about sticking to the point instead of bringing in irrelevant shit where you have no fucking idea what I think one way or another?
And you accused me of having fantasies?
Why are you pushing so fucking hard in denial of reality? Are you working for a political party or something?
Bullshit. It's in the report linked else where - buckling and the whole thing came down just like in thousands of fires.
Slashdot - where coder boys spew words they do not understand at engineers and think they should be taken seriously despite not knowing shit about what they are talking about. How about you spend a couple of years reading about solid mechanics and then get back to us when you have finally started to understand that you don't "know about buildings" but you've got a little bit of a grip on the concepts. Then you may be a bit less reluctant to put down those of us in the "reality based community" when we discuss buildings catching fire and falling down.
Debate? You are just doing a local version of holocaust denial despite things like the report into the building collapse being linked in this very discussion.
Yes you "win" by getting plenty of anger from people who think you are lower than dirt for doing this shit - congrats on your "win". Do you piss on soldiers graves as an encore?
Disappointing as fuck - could you at least look up what reduction of oxides means before blathering about nukes.
It's chemistry not just heat.
It's a distro where you pretty well just tick boxes you want and get something that works out the other end. No mucking about with driver disks so in a lot of cases much easier than installing MS Windows.
Other people already put in the time and drives are a lot closer to free than they used to be.
Typically smelting is a chemical process so it needs heat and a reducing agent (eg. CO).
Just melting rocks doesn't get a lot done unless you add other rocks.
Yes but reducing stuff to get that oxygen is a bit of a pain especially without petrochemicals.
Longer answer - China and Russia care less about the problem you have identified with living in space for long periods of time. It remains to be seen if they have the will or commitment to take the steps but colonists with a reduced lifespan are not seen as a showstopper.
We've been there in the west not so long ago and may still be in that situation in some places - dangerous jobs were not so uncommon only a couple of generations back. My grandfather worked at a mine where apparently nobody lived past fifty. Attitudes have changed but may change back.
Please stop trolling.
Instead of making us feel sick here why don't you go watch some Vegas demolition videos or disaster footage.
Buildings don't just have bits fall off or topple like cardboard boxes like they do in the Hollywood movies.
Also you've already seen why this happened you just are not thinking clearly. Surely you've seen at least on TV if not anywhere else a smith heating up steel so it's soft enough to work? Hot structural steel cannot support the weight above so the whole thing collapses - simple as that.
Wind back a couple of decades and these people would not be classified as Autistic. It's seen as a disability for historical reasons from when high functioning people were not on the list
Mod this up to 11. I'm sick of the HR types who stalk everyone on Facebook instead of working coming up with lists of nice people who are not qualified for a job, then finding out that there were actually a large number of qualified applicants who didn't like the same sports as the HR people or something.
Why bother when you can use hundreds of tons of aviation fuel and paper?
There is no point following these losers down a rabbit hole because they have no clue about any of the questions you have asked.
Well I do know a bit and I can tell you that buildings on fire tend to fall down.
Dumbed down enough for you?
That bit was true but they were not the only ones flying out while most planes were grounded. "They" let a lot of people leave the country and not just that half a dozen Saudis with strong connections to Bush.
In hindsight a lot of intelligence reports from the lot of sources warned about it but it's likely they just didn't make it up the chain of command in time. The explorer Sir Hubert Wilkes was one who sent a report in from Japan but not being an American he may not have been taken seriously. The conspiracy theory hinges a lot of people having an operation like a well oiled machine and then doing something really stupid with it. Reality looks like a failure to listen and a failure to act.
I agree, it makes me very angry.
Americans commit more crime. That's just the reality in which we live.
By statistics you are far more likely to commit a crime than I, while I suppose I'm far more likely to be eaten by a crocodile.
Getting the point yet about groupings often being completely irrelevant?
The way the poor are treated in the USA seems almost designed to encourage crime.
The race metric you are using only looks like it makes sense because of disproportionate poverty by race, and because it reinforces your belief about race.
While it gives you a nice warm fuzzy feeling that your race is the best it's got nothing to do with it.
That's not the approach Powell and the advisors from the Pentagon were going to take.
This isn't a left versus right issue. It's an issue of whoever would be in power at the time of a deal taking the credit - until it was totally fucked up.
Both really.
Crappy plus a totally different setting where starships can park underwater, belts can teleport you across the galaxy and Klingons are weaklings to beat up on. A vast way from "exactly" - why stay in orbit in hundreds of episodes when you can just land in a lake?
The reboots are not self-consistent even within the span of an hour or two.
The reboot depends both on fan memory and then brings in complete rejection of it. The Khan remake is beyond understanding without seeing pre-reboot trek yet depends on being in a totally different universe.
Instead of doing a totally new story or doing something that could exist in the original setting Abrams just took the earlier story, turned it inside out and backwards then shat all over it. It was amazed that somebody could make a film with that cast and still have it turn out as crap.
I'm a B5 fan and not a trekkie and really loved Galaxy Quest which shamelessly made fun of Trek, but the Trek reboot is just crap SF feeding off a captive audience IMHO.