Economically viable is not a factor when the rules prevent it going that far. There are a lot of arbitrary rules that mean small players would need extra staff for no good reason (food safety is a good reason but it goes far beyond that). Look up "regulatory capture" for a wide range of examples over a wide range of industries. The one you may be most familiar with is taxis but the meat industry also has problems.
Clear to you, but not to me (mostly because I've never thought about it before now).
I grew up in a small town and a field trip some time in grades 1-3 was to the local meatworks so I've been thinking about it for a while. A lot of those small places were taken over by large companies and when they were shut down prospective new owners found that they were locked out of the market even with a workforce, equipment and site. At various times there has been a bit of press about it.
Better rules about political donations may start making things look a bit more like capitalism in a democracy instead of an oligarchy. It goes a bit deeper than blaming powerless hippies and moving on.
"I'm using is the standard one about occupant safety and not bending panels" should read:
I'm using is the standard one about occupant safety and not a different one about bending panels
Last time you were pontificating on varieties of Model A
I've written here about the epicyclic gearbox of the Model T which I got to play with way back as an undergraduate but I have not written anything here about the Model A, you must be mixing me up with someone else.
As for the other thing, nowhere near the only factor, GM was selling stuff based around a 1937 Chevy block in the second half of the 1970s - so simple even a kid could understand it (so easy to replace a head gasket) but well and truly trumped by technology available just about everywhere else. That's about when the cold winds of capitalism blew on Ford and GM and they ran to the government for protection against their own failure to compete. Why blame quality control when the design itself is found wanting even in perfect condition?
All that is a distraction. We appear to be using separate definitions of "crashworthyness", so please keep in mind that the one I'm using is the standard one about occupant safety and not bending panels. The older vehicles fall short on that since it wasn't so important a design factor until the last few decades.
Yes you use the other vehicle as a crumple zone if the other vehicle is properly designed. If you hit a tree you are fucked while someone in a more modern vehicle walks away. I suggest seeing if you can find a first year text on materials science in a library or online to get some ideas about what the differences are between strength and toughness plus a bit about how impact energy is absorbed. You'll learn about cool things such as bullet proof vests actually being made out of plastic instead of steel.
At your "farmers market" maybe, not mine where there is a lot of stuff grown nearby, an advantage of being in a bit of a backwater I suppose. The tomato thing applies all over the west for the reasons I've stated. The "heirloom" varieties are not grown at a large scale commercially and are relatively fragile for the small growers to handle so they rarely bother either.
You appear to have entirely missed the point. Clearly something is preventing businesses setting up meatworks in small towns a long way from where your strawmen live so it's clearly not the strawmen.
Versus a political donor at the state or federal level - completely powerless. You are looking in the wrong place since rich, urban PETA members are not doing anything to stop someone setting up a meatworks in a small town a long way from where they live but regulatory capture has meant a lot of hoops to jump to keep new players out of an industry.
It seems that the russians can barely keep their old tech running, let alone do things the rest of the world can't. Hard to see them pulling this off, sounds more like chest thumping.
So we say until we need a ride to the ISS because the Russians are doing manned space flight and we are not.
Even this would be so expensive that it will once again stretch Russia's financial capabilities beyond what's possible
Do you think they only export Vodka instead of vast amounts of oil and have close to a monopoly on gas sold in Europe? Sure, South Korea has an economy slightly larger but that's nothing to sneeze at either.
As an aside Putin has Stalin's library in his office and shows it off to visitors, getting them to read Stalin's comments in the margins of various texts.
It's unscientific, but fresh tomatoes from my own plants taste better than even 'local' farmers market stuff
Scientists have been saying that as well. You can let them ripen more and if you are growing a non-commercial variety it's been bred for taste and not yield and how well it handles shipping. There are efforts at producing commercial varieties that taste like the "heirloom" tomato breeds but without genetic modification it's a slow process.
I had one accidentally once and it didn't taste anything like meat
That's sort of the point with edible ones since it's never coming close. The "burger" name is a bit of a joke when it's a vege fritter, falafel or whatever and probably wouldn't sound bad on a menu under a more accurate name.
The problem with a lot of those things is they pretend to be meat and fail badly. Fried tofu with sweet chilli sauce is good as it's own thing so long as you don't compare it to meat. Mushrooms cooked in butter and pepper on toast is good as it's own thing so long as you don't compare it to bacon.
Actually the main reason you and I don't eat it is because it's bland soft cells and not complete muscle tissue so unlikely to sell even at a cheap price. Meat has a lot of texture and has some fat cells. Imagine a slightly chewy jelly that tastes almost but not entirely unlike beef (no fat so very different taste) and that's apparently the state of the art so there's no point going for economy of scale yet.
I'm not sure they really are opposed. There's stuff called Quorn that is cultured vegetable protein and almost nobody has a problem with that. It's actually a bit of a surprise that the anti-processed foods people are happy with it. I suspect that if cultured meat becomes a product it will be treated in a similar way - avoided by those who don't want to eat it without them making much fuss.
I don't know why people are so opposed to GM food
Monsanto pissed a lot of people off and poisoned that well. It's a shame because it was starting to look like, among other things, we could be getting very cheap long shelf life vaccines made of banana.
And completely wrong. Look up tensile testing to get some ideas about energy being absorbed - it's the area under the curve. A lot of deformation means a lot of energy being absorbed (instead of transmitted to the driver and passengers) and the high strength low alloy stuff used today is actually stronger than that stuff in the older cars anyway. It's heavy gauge because it's not strong enough to make it thinner. Nice car, but if you run into a tree at speed you are fucked.
I doubt I could buy any car made today that had the crashworthyness of the Lincoln
Which is just as well - run it into anything solid and YOU are the crumple zone. Also a bit of a bad example since that was just before Detroit found it out could not keep on selling 1940s technology without the Japanese, Germans - even Italians and British eating their lunch. When Leyland and Fiat are making more advanced stuff than is made locally that's a bit of a slap in the face with a rotting fish.
first off, Grumman BUILT the lander, but it was designed by NASA
Who told you that? They were lying. A few minutes looking around the internet will confirm it. Starting with Grumman's website on the topic will save time.
The extra costs associated with starting up again instead of incremental progression are the price of stupidity. Also having even China ahead of us will make it difficult to "compete". The big deal about private space is a distraction - it was always as much private space as it is today. Grumman built the Eagle lander that first touched onto the moon and not NASA.
“You’d have to be an idiot to get up in front of people and say, ‘I’m now going to trash $5 billion even though we’re that close to the finish line, and I’m going to quit human spaceflight.’ Carter was not such an idiot. It would take Baby Bush to be that idiot and leave manned flight to the Russians. Maybe Obama is also an idiot for not trying to revive a gutted NASA while the capability was still there, but he would have had to fight being blocked all the way.
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There are a lot of arbitrary rules that mean small players would need extra staff for no good reason (food safety is a good reason but it goes far beyond that). Look up "regulatory capture" for a wide range of examples over a wide range of industries. The one you may be most familiar with is taxis but the meat industry also has problems.
I grew up in a small town and a field trip some time in grades 1-3 was to the local meatworks so I've been thinking about it for a while. A lot of those small places were taken over by large companies and when they were shut down prospective new owners found that they were locked out of the market even with a workforce, equipment and site. At various times there has been a bit of press about it.
Better rules about political donations may start making things look a bit more like capitalism in a democracy instead of an oligarchy. It goes a bit deeper than blaming powerless hippies and moving on.
"I'm using is the standard one about occupant safety and not bending panels" should read:
I'm using is the standard one about occupant safety and not a different one about bending panels
I've written here about the epicyclic gearbox of the Model T which I got to play with way back as an undergraduate but I have not written anything here about the Model A, you must be mixing me up with someone else.
As for the other thing, nowhere near the only factor, GM was selling stuff based around a 1937 Chevy block in the second half of the 1970s - so simple even a kid could understand it (so easy to replace a head gasket) but well and truly trumped by technology available just about everywhere else. That's about when the cold winds of capitalism blew on Ford and GM and they ran to the government for protection against their own failure to compete.
Why blame quality control when the design itself is found wanting even in perfect condition?
All that is a distraction. We appear to be using separate definitions of "crashworthyness", so please keep in mind that the one I'm using is the standard one about occupant safety and not bending panels. The older vehicles fall short on that since it wasn't so important a design factor until the last few decades.
Yes you use the other vehicle as a crumple zone if the other vehicle is properly designed. If you hit a tree you are fucked while someone in a more modern vehicle walks away.
I suggest seeing if you can find a first year text on materials science in a library or online to get some ideas about what the differences are between strength and toughness plus a bit about how impact energy is absorbed. You'll learn about cool things such as bullet proof vests actually being made out of plastic instead of steel.
At your "farmers market" maybe, not mine where there is a lot of stuff grown nearby, an advantage of being in a bit of a backwater I suppose. The tomato thing applies all over the west for the reasons I've stated. The "heirloom" varieties are not grown at a large scale commercially and are relatively fragile for the small growers to handle so they rarely bother either.
You appear to have entirely missed the point.
Clearly something is preventing businesses setting up meatworks in small towns a long way from where your strawmen live so it's clearly not the strawmen.
Versus a political donor at the state or federal level - completely powerless.
You are looking in the wrong place since rich, urban PETA members are not doing anything to stop someone setting up a meatworks in a small town a long way from where they live but regulatory capture has meant a lot of hoops to jump to keep new players out of an industry.
Yes I've had the misfortune of eating something like that. Fake hot dogs that seemed pointless.
It seems that the russians can barely keep their old tech running, let alone do things the rest of the world can't. Hard to see them pulling this off, sounds more like chest thumping.
So we say until we need a ride to the ISS because the Russians are doing manned space flight and we are not.
Do you think they only export Vodka instead of vast amounts of oil and have close to a monopoly on gas sold in Europe? Sure, South Korea has an economy slightly larger but that's nothing to sneeze at either.
As an aside Putin has Stalin's library in his office and shows it off to visitors, getting them to read Stalin's comments in the margins of various texts.
Iron Sky:
"Who doesn't have weapons in space?"
Everybody turns and looks at the representative from Finland who is the only one holding up a hand.
It looks like beef is going to be resource limited a lot in the future, pork not so much.
Scientists have been saying that as well. You can let them ripen more and if you are growing a non-commercial variety it's been bred for taste and not yield and how well it handles shipping. There are efforts at producing commercial varieties that taste like the "heirloom" tomato breeds but without genetic modification it's a slow process.
That's sort of the point with edible ones since it's never coming close. The "burger" name is a bit of a joke when it's a vege fritter, falafel or whatever and probably wouldn't sound bad on a menu under a more accurate name.
The problem with a lot of those things is they pretend to be meat and fail badly.
Fried tofu with sweet chilli sauce is good as it's own thing so long as you don't compare it to meat.
Mushrooms cooked in butter and pepper on toast is good as it's own thing so long as you don't compare it to bacon.
Actually the main reason you and I don't eat it is because it's bland soft cells and not complete muscle tissue so unlikely to sell even at a cheap price.
Meat has a lot of texture and has some fat cells.
Imagine a slightly chewy jelly that tastes almost but not entirely unlike beef (no fat so very different taste) and that's apparently the state of the art so there's no point going for economy of scale yet.
Barriers to entry to cut down on competition.
There's no point blaming powerless hippies when the real problem is regulatory capture.
There's stuff called Quorn that is cultured vegetable protein and almost nobody has a problem with that. It's actually a bit of a surprise that the anti-processed foods people are happy with it. I suspect that if cultured meat becomes a product it will be treated in a similar way - avoided by those who don't want to eat it without them making much fuss.
Monsanto pissed a lot of people off and poisoned that well. It's a shame because it was starting to look like, among other things, we could be getting very cheap long shelf life vaccines made of banana.
And completely wrong.
Look up tensile testing to get some ideas about energy being absorbed - it's the area under the curve. A lot of deformation means a lot of energy being absorbed (instead of transmitted to the driver and passengers) and the high strength low alloy stuff used today is actually stronger than that stuff in the older cars anyway. It's heavy gauge because it's not strong enough to make it thinner.
Nice car, but if you run into a tree at speed you are fucked.
Which is just as well - run it into anything solid and YOU are the crumple zone.
Also a bit of a bad example since that was just before Detroit found it out could not keep on selling 1940s technology without the Japanese, Germans - even Italians and British eating their lunch. When Leyland and Fiat are making more advanced stuff than is made locally that's a bit of a slap in the face with a rotting fish.
Who told you that? They were lying.
A few minutes looking around the internet will confirm it. Starting with Grumman's website on the topic will save time.
Paid by the taxpayer.
The extra costs associated with starting up again instead of incremental progression are the price of stupidity.
Also having even China ahead of us will make it difficult to "compete". The big deal about private space is a distraction - it was always as much private space as it is today. Grumman built the Eagle lander that first touched onto the moon and not NASA.
“You’d have to be an idiot to get up in front of people and say, ‘I’m now going to trash $5 billion even though we’re that close to the finish line, and I’m going to quit human spaceflight.’
Carter was not such an idiot.
It would take Baby Bush to be that idiot and leave manned flight to the Russians.
Maybe Obama is also an idiot for not trying to revive a gutted NASA while the capability was still there, but he would have had to fight being blocked all the way.