It wasn't even that. The woman got angry and wanted to see if there was a way to get the legal system to force him to get tested for an STD. Then a political activist got involved as prosecutor and it all went on from there.
With dotnet that sort of shit is still happening, and just like back in the day it's not only security that suffers from newbie mistakes. It's not really the platform just people who cut and paste their way into getting stuff halfway working instead of knowing how to write things for the platform. I'm sick of stuff that takes 30 seconds to start due to a huge 24bit background pic and a slow needless text to speech thing saying hello. Can I skip that shit on the hobby inventory list program and actually start using it please?
Good point. And while Detroit was warming up old iron there was plenty going on in Texas and California that did actually put that sort of thing to use with the electronics industry etc.
That kind of makes my point. Somebody in Detroit could have hired him but trust fund babies did not care about improving products to ensure future sales.
Good point, I've only seen how much of a joke and a welfare program the TSA is and not what I guessed would be a good comparison. IMHO the TSA is an ongoing failure and little or nothing has been done to address that. I've heard many suggestions that staff who are more professional could cover the essential functions in much lower numbers than the vast number of poorly supervised and poorly trained staff mostly getting in people's faces to show that security is being "taken seriously". That's what I was trying to say and trying to use an example of a country actually in conflict to do it.
What did you expect as a response to some shit about something to do with bodily functions? You got the clue and it didn't insult you directly like the shit out of high school comedies that you sent hilariously in my direction, which made me think you are probably thirty years younger than you probably are. I really don't get why you want an apology for a mild response to such name calling - such an attitude doesn't make you sound like someone who has used computers for a few decades either, but I'll have to take you word for it.
The really sad part of your argument isn't just that you are focusing on the dollar amount now
No, the people who increased the cost of the fines that you mentioned are very obviously the ones that are focusing on the dollar amount. Getting me mixed up with them just because I described how they can get away with that gouging is utterly ridiculous.
you apparently support the government rules that make personal choices you don't agree with illegal
That's right, just like I don't support poison in milk to get a better score on quality tests either. Safety rules are there for a reason. In this case the small penalty designed to discourage didn't stop the stupid, so people in politics saw that it wasn't going to hurt their standing if they gouged out a bit of money by putting a tax on that stupidity. See also taxes on cigarettes for an example of picking on a group that can safely be taxed more than others. I don't make the rule or do the gouging, I'm just pointing it out. Why you took such a thing so personally that you went full adhom on my alias (been here a while but never seen something that petty) I've got absolutely no idea.
The one where you get to decide how I raise my children?
Of course I don't get to decide. The government that you have a part in choosing, unless you are far too lazy to do your duty as a citizen and vote, is what decides with feedback from courts, interested citizens and the whole shebang. You can be and probably should be part of the process. Don't like the law - then bother someone, bicycle helmet laws have been changed that way and that's fairly similar.
I don't know all these people who call themselves "libertarians" to start with
Who said it was about you? Is all this shit and insults I only know about from bad movies about high schools because you thought the "tax on stupidity" was calling you stupid and not describing how the cash grab works?
The joke's on you, because I haven't had to pay the fine for not wearing a seatbelt. I have a medical reason for not wearing a seatbelt, and showed the letter I got from my doctor confirming it to the judge, who dismissed the ticket. After confirming with the police officer that that was the only ticketable offense I was pulled over for. I was't speeding or running a red light or swerving. The next two times I was stopped, I showed the same letter to those officers, they checked my history and saw the dismissed ticket, lectured me on the safety aspect, and let me go about my business.
So why didn't you show the letter to the cop and avoid the entire drama? Given that it's a medical reason and not a objection to the law why the obsession as if it is not just a sensible exception to the rule?
I know a few people who are alive, myself included, for the "medical reason" that they were wearing seatbelts at the time of very serious accidents so I really don't get the obsession.
As for the "can do whatever you like with your own kids" thing, as you well know societies everywhere say otherwise and jails are full of people that have done things to their children that society considers criminal so your blustering bullshit trying to bully your way through an argument that way is extremely tasteless.
Destructive tests of entire structures or machines maybe, but for components they can often supply the information you need.
not done here by competent engineers
Nasty! So when I was testing weld joint designs by doing destructive tests on the test plates made up at the same time as the actual welds I was not a competent engineer:) Physical objects are a little different to coding kids!
but I question if you could ever call any of them "scientific"
Phlogiston works for the mass balance in a lot of different reactions, so yes it was. It did not fit things like the example above and the oxidation of iron so it was thrown out almost overnight when this was established - hence practical science instead of dogma.
I have similarly seen studies that linked marjuana to heart disease based on a paltry sample size (a subsample of a study on a different primary topic, their headline grabbbing conclusion was based on a real sample size of under 30 people).
So in the proper context that would be a situation with a small size showed a trend, and if there is enough of a trend it could be used to justify putting up the serious amount of cash required to properly investigate.
What gets it into the papers is probably a University press officer who has to keep on putting out press releases to keep their job.
What allot forget is that our modern society exists because of cheap energy
In many ways due directly to the science that is being denied. Fossil fuels got their name from somewhere and the Creationists hate that. Geology was about the first thing to be denied. Remote sensing is another thing that is being ignored when reality doesn't match the politics. Like it or not, the science that is delivering that cheap energy is tied up too tightly with the science of climate to be able to throw one away without the other.
So yes, it will take quite a bit of convincing for most people that oil is a bad thing.
That's only an issue because of a childish attitude to cost/benefit situations. We call some items "goods" because Adam Smith spoke of cost/benefit in terms of "goods" and "bads", but PR efforts make us ignore the "bads" and try to force us into a childish accepting and thoughtless state. Like everything oil comes at a cost. Whether it is worth it or not depends on the situation.
Yes, but at most times in US history scientific advice was taken seriously by those in politics instead of being denied as if it was the USSR suffering from Lysenkoism.
It's been used a lot for complex scripts in multiplayer games - "bots", and I've heard it used to describe an fairly complex automated multi-choice telephone answering menu. It may not make a lot of sense but some people are using it that way. At least the automated spam systems are still "zombies".
Probably, because those warmongering, child-diddling, corrupt upper-class twits cut the BBC's budget and told them to pray that it would not be cut again. It's a case of using "good enough" machine translation because the staff that used to do it have left the building.
You tell me - all I did was point out your silly namecalling about my nick was wrong and gave you a clue as to where it came from, not that it actually matters. All this because I pointed out the obvious - a small fine for breaching a safety regulation was turned into a revenue stream by the unscrupulous because it's hard to challenge a tax on stupidity.
Kids with no seatbelts are an obvious consequence of people ignoring regulations about seatbelts. Now why are you getting so worked up about it?
Now, please enlighten us more on how the government should be able to control every aspect of my life
All this over seatbelts? Do you really want me to laugh at you and consider you some worthless loser incapable of taking responsibility for your own actions? IMHO people going apeshit about seatbelt laws are like the "weather rock" where you know it's raining because the thing is wet. It's a good detector for the "give me stupidity and give me death" people who like to call themselves "libertarians" until they need a government to protect them from something. You brought up the seatbelts yourself so you can't blame me for making you look stupid. However my point stands, the reason the fines went up is because what started off as a small fine to discourage a behaviour turned into a tax on stupidity when the behaviour kept on happening. As should be obvious people in politics are always looking for a way to get money that will not be unpopular so this tax on stupidity happened instead of it staying as a small fine.
Yes but you could definitely "move quite a few people through per hour per worker" if there was no TSA there at all - and compared to places with professional security they may as well not be there at all.
TSA in the US tried this, people would call it an invasion of privacy
Yes, when it's a step below mall security doing it that's a much greater problem than if a professional with training, ethical standards and consequences for violating those standards does it.
Do the the TSA drones really put on a show (that's all it usually is sadly) for more people per minute or are the results skewed by the half hour you had but others did not? We keep hearing about people being held for hours for utterly stupid reasons by the TSA, and do you really think they are not doing profiling?
With respect, an issue of someone being excellent at one tool but not at others has nothing at all to do with the tool itself. I'm starting to hope that you are just joking around because otherwise you are just exposing a personal problem you have with working in a team to the readership - quite literally a poor workman blaming the tools.
When the mod system came in and AC comments were modded down it was time to sign up. Then when I forgot the password and had the account linked to a previous work address I signed up again. What's your excuse:)
The thing that will suck the most here is a pile of those users will have the same passwords out there on something else. Script kiddies with Hello Kitty Rainbow Tables - if someone had taken that to an SF editor a while ago it would have been thrown out as too silly and too far fetched - but now it's probably real!
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It wasn't even that. The woman got angry and wanted to see if there was a way to get the legal system to force him to get tested for an STD. Then a political activist got involved as prosecutor and it all went on from there.
Your analogy is almost as offensive as your suggestion that the US government murdered all those plane passengers on 9/11.
And then the Judge looks at the contracts, slowly shaking their head, and points towards the door.
See what happens when you finish a thought instead of an almost mindless knee-jerk action?
With dotnet that sort of shit is still happening, and just like back in the day it's not only security that suffers from newbie mistakes. It's not really the platform just people who cut and paste their way into getting stuff halfway working instead of knowing how to write things for the platform.
I'm sick of stuff that takes 30 seconds to start due to a huge 24bit background pic and a slow needless text to speech thing saying hello. Can I skip that shit on the hobby inventory list program and actually start using it please?
Good point. And while Detroit was warming up old iron there was plenty going on in Texas and California that did actually put that sort of thing to use with the electronics industry etc.
That kind of makes my point. Somebody in Detroit could have hired him but trust fund babies did not care about improving products to ensure future sales.
Good point, I've only seen how much of a joke and a welfare program the TSA is and not what I guessed would be a good comparison.
IMHO the TSA is an ongoing failure and little or nothing has been done to address that. I've heard many suggestions that staff who are more professional could cover the essential functions in much lower numbers than the vast number of poorly supervised and poorly trained staff mostly getting in people's faces to show that security is being "taken seriously". That's what I was trying to say and trying to use an example of a country actually in conflict to do it.
What did you expect as a response to some shit about something to do with bodily functions? You got the clue and it didn't insult you directly like the shit out of high school comedies that you sent hilariously in my direction, which made me think you are probably thirty years younger than you probably are.
I really don't get why you want an apology for a mild response to such name calling - such an attitude doesn't make you sound like someone who has used computers for a few decades either, but I'll have to take you word for it.
No, the people who increased the cost of the fines that you mentioned are very obviously the ones that are focusing on the dollar amount. Getting me mixed up with them just because I described how they can get away with that gouging is utterly ridiculous.
That's right, just like I don't support poison in milk to get a better score on quality tests either. Safety rules are there for a reason. In this case the small penalty designed to discourage didn't stop the stupid, so people in politics saw that it wasn't going to hurt their standing if they gouged out a bit of money by putting a tax on that stupidity. See also taxes on cigarettes for an example of picking on a group that can safely be taxed more than others. I don't make the rule or do the gouging, I'm just pointing it out.
Why you took such a thing so personally that you went full adhom on my alias (been here a while but never seen something that petty) I've got absolutely no idea.
Of course I don't get to decide. The government that you have a part in choosing, unless you are far too lazy to do your duty as a citizen and vote, is what decides with feedback from courts, interested citizens and the whole shebang. You can be and probably should be part of the process. Don't like the law - then bother someone, bicycle helmet laws have been changed that way and that's fairly similar.
Who said it was about you? Is all this shit and insults I only know about from bad movies about high schools because you thought the "tax on stupidity" was calling you stupid and not describing how the cash grab works?
So why didn't you show the letter to the cop and avoid the entire drama?
Given that it's a medical reason and not a objection to the law why the obsession as if it is not just a sensible exception to the rule?
I know a few people who are alive, myself included, for the "medical reason" that they were wearing seatbelts at the time of very serious accidents so I really don't get the obsession.
As for the "can do whatever you like with your own kids" thing, as you well know societies everywhere say otherwise and jails are full of people that have done things to their children that society considers criminal so your blustering bullshit trying to bully your way through an argument that way is extremely tasteless.
Actually no - it's not better unless you are already using ZFS in which case you probably already know about the feature.
Destructive tests of entire structures or machines maybe, but for components they can often supply the information you need.
Nasty! So when I was testing weld joint designs by doing destructive tests on the test plates made up at the same time as the actual welds I was not a competent engineer :)
Physical objects are a little different to coding kids!
Phlogiston works for the mass balance in a lot of different reactions, so yes it was. It did not fit things like the example above and the oxidation of iron so it was thrown out almost overnight when this was established - hence practical science instead of dogma.
So in the proper context that would be a situation with a small size showed a trend, and if there is enough of a trend it could be used to justify putting up the serious amount of cash required to properly investigate.
What gets it into the papers is probably a University press officer who has to keep on putting out press releases to keep their job.
Because development continued instead of stagnating under the trust fund babies that had inherited the US car industry by that time.
In many ways due directly to the science that is being denied. Fossil fuels got their name from somewhere and the Creationists hate that. Geology was about the first thing to be denied. Remote sensing is another thing that is being ignored when reality doesn't match the politics. Like it or not, the science that is delivering that cheap energy is tied up too tightly with the science of climate to be able to throw one away without the other.
That's only an issue because of a childish attitude to cost/benefit situations. We call some items "goods" because Adam Smith spoke of cost/benefit in terms of "goods" and "bads", but PR efforts make us ignore the "bads" and try to force us into a childish accepting and thoughtless state. Like everything oil comes at a cost. Whether it is worth it or not depends on the situation.
Yes, but at most times in US history scientific advice was taken seriously by those in politics instead of being denied as if it was the USSR suffering from Lysenkoism.
It's been used a lot for complex scripts in multiplayer games - "bots", and I've heard it used to describe an fairly complex automated multi-choice telephone answering menu.
It may not make a lot of sense but some people are using it that way.
At least the automated spam systems are still "zombies".
Probably, because those warmongering, child-diddling, corrupt upper-class twits cut the BBC's budget and told them to pray that it would not be cut again.
It's a case of using "good enough" machine translation because the staff that used to do it have left the building.
You tell me - all I did was point out your silly namecalling about my nick was wrong and gave you a clue as to where it came from, not that it actually matters.
All this because I pointed out the obvious - a small fine for breaching a safety regulation was turned into a revenue stream by the unscrupulous because it's hard to challenge a tax on stupidity.
All this over seatbelts? Do you really want me to laugh at you and consider you some worthless loser incapable of taking responsibility for your own actions?
IMHO people going apeshit about seatbelt laws are like the "weather rock" where you know it's raining because the thing is wet. It's a good detector for the "give me stupidity and give me death" people who like to call themselves "libertarians" until they need a government to protect them from something.
You brought up the seatbelts yourself so you can't blame me for making you look stupid. However my point stands, the reason the fines went up is because what started off as a small fine to discourage a behaviour turned into a tax on stupidity when the behaviour kept on happening. As should be obvious people in politics are always looking for a way to get money that will not be unpopular so this tax on stupidity happened instead of it staying as a small fine.
Yes, when it's a step below mall security doing it that's a much greater problem than if a professional with training, ethical standards and consequences for violating those standards does it.
Do the the TSA drones really put on a show (that's all it usually is sadly) for more people per minute or are the results skewed by the half hour you had but others did not? We keep hearing about people being held for hours for utterly stupid reasons by the TSA, and do you really think they are not doing profiling?
With respect, an issue of someone being excellent at one tool but not at others has nothing at all to do with the tool itself.
I'm starting to hope that you are just joking around because otherwise you are just exposing a personal problem you have with working in a team to the readership - quite literally a poor workman blaming the tools.
When the mod system came in and AC comments were modded down it was time to sign up. Then when I forgot the password and had the account linked to a previous work address I signed up again. What's your excuse :)
The thing that will suck the most here is a pile of those users will have the same passwords out there on something else.
Script kiddies with Hello Kitty Rainbow Tables - if someone had taken that to an SF editor a while ago it would have been thrown out as too silly and too far fetched - but now it's probably real!