yes but terrorists can use this type of information to locate populations centers and high value targets
You know what? Let's camouflage our cities in case the Jihadists find out where people live.
FFS.
Either there's a joke that I'm not getting or some people are sad sad individuals who see terrorists under every bed. It's like when that tall viaduct was built in France people here were posting "b... b... but won't terrorists want to blow it up?" It was the same every time something big or tall was built. You know what I say? Get. The. Fuck. Over. Yourselves.
You'd think terrorism was invented in 2001 to listen to some people. What do you think the rest of the world has been putting up with for decades? The Brits were having their town and city centres blown to pieces long before most USAians even heard of terrorism. But you know what? They didn't let it govern their lives. They carried on shopping in their town and city centres. They carried on building tall buildings out of glass. They carried on riding on trains at 110MPH. They carried on cramming into crowded buses and underground train systems. They didn't become a crowd of pathetic little scaredycats who lock themselves in the room and didn't move for fear that the terrorists would get them. Sure they took a few precautions (like stopping the left luggage service in train stations and removing trash cans from airports) but they didn't become paranoid neurotic wrecks.
You left out the USA, for some reason. Please explain.
Well. With the exception of the Olympics they're not exactly renowned for participating in international sport, are they? Every time their soccer team does well in the World Cup, heartland insular conservative xenophobes (the same people who are always first to call for war) sharpen their pencils and write articles stating how much they don't care about the global game because they prefer their own version of football. Many take delight in claiming that they don't know the World Cup is happening. Cycling has shot to popularity thanks to the Armstrong factor but it's still very much a minority pursuit in the US and the professional peleton is not dominated by Americans by a long way. Formula 1? They've never even heard of it; their motor racing fans are either watching indycars or they're gun-toting rednecks who watch NASCAR. The big 4 sports in America are American football, basketball, ice hockey and baseball, none of which can claim to be truly globalized. (I know, i know, baseball has a following in Japan and the Caribbean, but hasn't exactly swept the world now, has it?)
Americans who hang out on the left of the political spectrum and are usually opposed to war are the same people who are more likely to take an interest in world sport.
I would argue that there seems to be a correlation between American sporting insularity and American willingness to wage war.
The area surrounding AT&T Park in San Francisco used to be derelict and barren. Now it's being gentrified with better public transportation links, loft apartments, cafes, bars, office space and other businesses moving into the area. Property values have gone up. People want to live in an area where there's stuff to do.
How many countries has Germany invaded lately? Italy? Japan? I don't see them flexing their militaristic muscle in the old chest-beating manner. Instead I see forums in which countries do business and work out their scores, like the WTO, the EU, the UN, and international sporting competitions. The battlefield is no longer the first forum of choice.
I said "largely" supplanted in the hope that it would ward off the usual/. pedants. Seems like I was wasting my time since you don't know the meaning of "largely."
Publicly funded sports y and facilities can be a spur for economic growth and urban regeneration when handled correctly. The value of inspiring young people to get involved in healthy activities should not be underestimated.
1 - Organized sport has largely supplanted war as a means of getting one over one one's rivals. Imperial pissing contests now involve athletic achievement, not who can build the biggest battleship with the biggest phallic symbol guns. I think humanity has moved on quite a bit in many ways, and organized sport is one tool that has helped.
2 - The opening ceremony of the Olympics gave pride of place to honouring two engineers who changed the world: Isambard Kingdom Brunel and Tim Berners Lee. (If I were directing I would have tried to add Frank Whittle in there, but I'm not griping, I thought it was a powerful show and I found it very moving. Probably helped that I watched the BBC's coverage, anyone who watched it on NBC seemed to complain about it.)
Yes the Curiosity mission is exciting and I'll be following it with great interest. But I'll also be watching sports. Hell I'm even going to watch tomorrow's Formula 1 Grand Prix. It is possible to do two things at once, especially when there's about 7 billion of us.
I never denied that Labour was just as bad. His point was the ONLY Labour passed or voted for such laws. They didn't. Oh and the PTA which was passed by a Labour government went through Parliament as near as dammit unanimously when it was first passed, so the Tories had a hand in that too.
Are you fucking kidding me? The Prevention of Terrorism Act was rewritten twice by Thatcher's government and was renewed every single year regardless of who was in power. The Tories nailed their colours to the mast as the party to vote for if you wanted to get tough on crime and tough on terrorism. They were the most totalitarian of the lot.
The military cannot be cut because they'll need the military to put down the insurrection in the States when martial law is declared. Frankly, I don't think it will do them any good. There are so many gun toting civilians and many will step up their game to more powerful methods once the martial law police start coming for their families to cull the population. It's gonna be messy.
You can't walk across the street to the corner store for a gallon of milk
Yeah, that milk you're paying a huge amount more for than I am.
Oh I can walk a little farther to the supermarket too and get it a little cheaper. I'd still rather do that than have to get in a car and drive several miles every time I need to buy something as small as a postage stamp.
I like living in a post-WW2 horizontal city instead of a pre-WW2 vertical one.
Well bully for you. Live in your suburb then. Nobody's stopping you. Some people like the suburbs and see only the downside of the city, some people like the city and see only the downside of the suburbs. That's just part of life's rich tapestry.
Why go to a bar? Is the sort of woman you'd meet in a BAR the sort you'd want to have a long term relationship with? And what does it say about her taste in getting picked up by a some dude in a bar?
Huh? What are you talking about? Where the hell else are you supposed to meet people if not in a bar? Would you prefer me to meet some losery loner on an online dating site or something? The majority of my long term relationships began in bars or on the way home from them and "the kind of girl" you meet in a bar is not much different from "the kind of girl" you meet in the street or in the supermarket or anywhere else with the exception that they're outgoing and sociable. What are you, Amish or something? Maybe you'd prefer me to meet people in a fucking church!
Please post your evidence that modern San Francisco, designed mostly after the 1906 earthquake, was build around pedestrian convenience.
Small blocks. Sidewalks. Businesses and store fronts that come right up to the sidewalk instead of hiding behind acres of tree-lined parking lagoons, grassy knolls, plastic roadside signs and six lane monstrosities. Compact neighbourhoods that are walkable and accessible from each other without driving. Mixed-use development rather than single-use zoning. Corner stores. Cafes. Small parks and public spaces here and there. A lack of parking spaces, those that do exist are empty for an average of 28 seconds at a time. Also the fact that the auto-centric city came about in the 1960s, not the 1910s. Maybe you're getting your decades mixed up.
I'm really happy that it's so cheap for you, but you live in suburbia. Nothing happens there. You can't walk across the street to the corner store for a gallon of milk and stop to chat to your neighbours about the concert that's going to be in the nearby park next weekend. You can't walk up to the tennis courts to play a few sets with your roommate and stop for coffee and a snack on the way back while you sit outside on the street and strike up a conversation with the interesting dog owner at the next table. You can't walk to the independent bookstore, on the way bump into some old friends that you haven't seen in years, and instead of going to the bookstore you go to the bar and spend a few hours catching up over cocktails while a pretty lady at the next stool catches your eye and ends up becoming your future wife.
You suburban TV watchers and couch potatoes can throw as many smart alec remarks as you like about "insufferable hipsters". If you want to live in your cookie-cutter apartment complexes and dorm "communities" where nobody knows your name then knock yourself out. I prefer a real social life where "social networking" actually means getting out there and mingling with people, not sitting in front of a Facebook in the evening with reality TV in the background.
WYSIWYG like Dreamweaver always write code that is hard to read so when you have to edit something manually it's a PITA. Also Dreamweaver tries to fix what you edit manually. Also DW etc all aren't always 100% compliant in their browser view, so things look great there and crappy elsewhere.
I'm not sure what version of Dreamweaver you're using but it produces clean and crisp code for me.
I disagree that hand coding is always better. If you've created a long table and need to delete the left column it's a lot easier to do it with a click and a press of the button in WYSIWYG view. That'd be a tedious job in code view. I always have the split code/WYSIWYG view and I alternate between them depending on what I'm doing. Horses for courses and all that.
Give a few years. Oh Noes 'gentrification'! The inevitable whinge. Tech money moves in, car dealerships and salons follow. Loft prices soar. Street vendors and used book stores move out. Rents go up and 'families' can't afford to live there any more.
Bitch, bitch, bitch. Thousands of hours of NPR hand wringing interviews with disgruntled pseudo-hippies.
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yes but terrorists can use this type of information to locate populations centers and high value targets
You know what? Let's camouflage our cities in case the Jihadists find out where people live.
FFS.
Either there's a joke that I'm not getting or some people are sad sad individuals who see terrorists under every bed. It's like when that tall viaduct was built in France people here were posting "b ... b ... but won't terrorists want to blow it up?" It was the same every time something big or tall was built. You know what I say? Get. The. Fuck. Over. Yourselves.
You'd think terrorism was invented in 2001 to listen to some people. What do you think the rest of the world has been putting up with for decades? The Brits were having their town and city centres blown to pieces long before most USAians even heard of terrorism. But you know what? They didn't let it govern their lives. They carried on shopping in their town and city centres. They carried on building tall buildings out of glass. They carried on riding on trains at 110MPH. They carried on cramming into crowded buses and underground train systems. They didn't become a crowd of pathetic little scaredycats who lock themselves in the room and didn't move for fear that the terrorists would get them. Sure they took a few precautions (like stopping the left luggage service in train stations and removing trash cans from airports) but they didn't become paranoid neurotic wrecks.
the gov can use this data for themselves in the campaign.
What campaign?
You left out the USA, for some reason. Please explain.
Well. With the exception of the Olympics they're not exactly renowned for participating in international sport, are they? Every time their soccer team does well in the World Cup, heartland insular conservative xenophobes (the same people who are always first to call for war) sharpen their pencils and write articles stating how much they don't care about the global game because they prefer their own version of football. Many take delight in claiming that they don't know the World Cup is happening. Cycling has shot to popularity thanks to the Armstrong factor but it's still very much a minority pursuit in the US and the professional peleton is not dominated by Americans by a long way. Formula 1? They've never even heard of it; their motor racing fans are either watching indycars or they're gun-toting rednecks who watch NASCAR. The big 4 sports in America are American football, basketball, ice hockey and baseball, none of which can claim to be truly globalized. (I know, i know, baseball has a following in Japan and the Caribbean, but hasn't exactly swept the world now, has it?)
Americans who hang out on the left of the political spectrum and are usually opposed to war are the same people who are more likely to take an interest in world sport.
I would argue that there seems to be a correlation between American sporting insularity and American willingness to wage war.
The area surrounding AT&T Park in San Francisco used to be derelict and barren. Now it's being gentrified with better public transportation links, loft apartments, cafes, bars, office space and other businesses moving into the area. Property values have gone up. People want to live in an area where there's stuff to do.
How many countries has Germany invaded lately? Italy? Japan? I don't see them flexing their militaristic muscle in the old chest-beating manner. Instead I see forums in which countries do business and work out their scores, like the WTO, the EU, the UN, and international sporting competitions. The battlefield is no longer the first forum of choice.
I said "largely" supplanted in the hope that it would ward off the usual /. pedants. Seems like I was wasting my time since you don't know the meaning of "largely."
Publicly funded sports y and facilities can be a spur for economic growth and urban regeneration when handled correctly. The value of inspiring young people to get involved in healthy activities should not be underestimated.
1 - Organized sport has largely supplanted war as a means of getting one over one one's rivals. Imperial pissing contests now involve athletic achievement, not who can build the biggest battleship with the biggest phallic symbol guns. I think humanity has moved on quite a bit in many ways, and organized sport is one tool that has helped.
2 - The opening ceremony of the Olympics gave pride of place to honouring two engineers who changed the world: Isambard Kingdom Brunel and Tim Berners Lee. (If I were directing I would have tried to add Frank Whittle in there, but I'm not griping, I thought it was a powerful show and I found it very moving. Probably helped that I watched the BBC's coverage, anyone who watched it on NBC seemed to complain about it.)
Yes the Curiosity mission is exciting and I'll be following it with great interest. But I'll also be watching sports. Hell I'm even going to watch tomorrow's Formula 1 Grand Prix. It is possible to do two things at once, especially when there's about 7 billion of us.
I never denied that Labour was just as bad. His point was the ONLY Labour passed or voted for such laws. They didn't. Oh and the PTA which was passed by a Labour government went through Parliament as near as dammit unanimously when it was first passed, so the Tories had a hand in that too.
He said "only" Labour would introduce draconian laws. I refuted his point. Yours is irrelevant.
Are you fucking kidding me? The Prevention of Terrorism Act was rewritten twice by Thatcher's government and was renewed every single year regardless of who was in power. The Tories nailed their colours to the mast as the party to vote for if you wanted to get tough on crime and tough on terrorism. They were the most totalitarian of the lot.
Unfortunately does not appear to be an option for the BlackBerry version of Dropbox.
I hear you can get an iPhone app that makes it function like a BlackBerry. It stops your iPhone from being able to do anything.
Boom! Boom!
Let's get one thing straight. It's customary to refer to Concorde as "Concorde." Not "the Concorde", just "Concorde."
Carry on.
The liberals keep telling me how bad the free market is at responding to, well, anything.
Straw man, much?
The military cannot be cut because they'll need the military to put down the insurrection in the States when martial law is declared. Frankly, I don't think it will do them any good. There are so many gun toting civilians and many will step up their game to more powerful methods once the martial law police start coming for their families to cull the population. It's gonna be messy.
LOL!
Yeah if they are still using Silverlight they are missing out on all the phone and tablet users as well.
WTF? I watch Netlfix all the time through its iPhone app.
Yeah, that milk you're paying a huge amount more for than I am.
Oh I can walk a little farther to the supermarket too and get it a little cheaper. I'd still rather do that than have to get in a car and drive several miles every time I need to buy something as small as a postage stamp.
I like living in a post-WW2 horizontal city instead of a pre-WW2 vertical one.
Well bully for you. Live in your suburb then. Nobody's stopping you. Some people like the suburbs and see only the downside of the city, some people like the city and see only the downside of the suburbs. That's just part of life's rich tapestry.
Why go to a bar? Is the sort of woman you'd meet in a BAR the sort you'd want to have a long term relationship with? And what does it say about her taste in getting picked up by a some dude in a bar?
Huh? What are you talking about? Where the hell else are you supposed to meet people if not in a bar? Would you prefer me to meet some losery loner on an online dating site or something? The majority of my long term relationships began in bars or on the way home from them and "the kind of girl" you meet in a bar is not much different from "the kind of girl" you meet in the street or in the supermarket or anywhere else with the exception that they're outgoing and sociable. What are you, Amish or something? Maybe you'd prefer me to meet people in a fucking church!
Please post your evidence that modern San Francisco, designed mostly after the 1906 earthquake, was build around pedestrian convenience.
Small blocks. Sidewalks. Businesses and store fronts that come right up to the sidewalk instead of hiding behind acres of tree-lined parking lagoons, grassy knolls, plastic roadside signs and six lane monstrosities. Compact neighbourhoods that are walkable and accessible from each other without driving. Mixed-use development rather than single-use zoning. Corner stores. Cafes. Small parks and public spaces here and there. A lack of parking spaces, those that do exist are empty for an average of 28 seconds at a time. Also the fact that the auto-centric city came about in the 1960s, not the 1910s. Maybe you're getting your decades mixed up.
I'm really happy that it's so cheap for you, but you live in suburbia. Nothing happens there. You can't walk across the street to the corner store for a gallon of milk and stop to chat to your neighbours about the concert that's going to be in the nearby park next weekend. You can't walk up to the tennis courts to play a few sets with your roommate and stop for coffee and a snack on the way back while you sit outside on the street and strike up a conversation with the interesting dog owner at the next table. You can't walk to the independent bookstore, on the way bump into some old friends that you haven't seen in years, and instead of going to the bookstore you go to the bar and spend a few hours catching up over cocktails while a pretty lady at the next stool catches your eye and ends up becoming your future wife.
You suburban TV watchers and couch potatoes can throw as many smart alec remarks as you like about "insufferable hipsters". If you want to live in your cookie-cutter apartment complexes and dorm "communities" where nobody knows your name then knock yourself out. I prefer a real social life where "social networking" actually means getting out there and mingling with people, not sitting in front of a Facebook in the evening with reality TV in the background.
because (a) the rents are lower, (b) street parking is almost a viable option, and (c) the 5 and 38 buses run all night
Might as well live in Oakland then.
WYSIWYG like Dreamweaver always write code that is hard to read so when you have to edit something manually it's a PITA. Also Dreamweaver tries to fix what you edit manually. Also DW etc all aren't always 100% compliant in their browser view, so things look great there and crappy elsewhere.
I'm not sure what version of Dreamweaver you're using but it produces clean and crisp code for me.
I disagree that hand coding is always better. If you've created a long table and need to delete the left column it's a lot easier to do it with a click and a press of the button in WYSIWYG view. That'd be a tedious job in code view. I always have the split code/WYSIWYG view and I alternate between them depending on what I'm doing. Horses for courses and all that.
Give a few years. Oh Noes 'gentrification'! The inevitable whinge. Tech money moves in, car dealerships and salons follow. Loft prices soar. Street vendors and used book stores move out. Rents go up and 'families' can't afford to live there any more.
Bitch, bitch, bitch. Thousands of hours of NPR hand wringing interviews with disgruntled pseudo-hippies.
San Francisco has rent control.
My friend who lives there calls it "the city". The hipness is implied by the condescending tone of voice when you say "the city".
Everybody who lives in the bay area calls SF "the city". Get over it.