I wouldn't say so slow. Just re-sizing is not as fast as native re-sizing. Considering this is version 1, expect it to get faster with each revision. This has ben the experience with most Apple Apps, they get faster as time goes by. This may be a nice difference for Windows users who are used to seeing the opposite from Microsoft.
I am speaking from personal experience. My Mac get's faster with every new release from Apple. My PC gets slower with every new release from Microsoft. Has anyone else experienced this?
Apple's really getting quite a few things to happen standard wise. Besides MP4 and AAC, ZeroConf aka Rendezvous, and FireWire to name a few and they all made it into iTunes for Windows, Pretty nice intellectual property advantage for Apple.
SO you have the ability to make smart (dynamic) playlists with and without scripting. That's pretty awesome! Appeals to both the geek and non-geek. It's nice to know that you are not limited.
A copy of coffee in New York costs me 1.10 now at the local store and I piss it out within the hour. 99 cents is cheap since I don't have to buy a whole album where only two or three songs are good. I used to have a personal rule that I wouldn't buy a CD unless I liked three songs on it, besides Linkin Park, Frida, AND Norah Jones, I have not purchased any other CD's lately.
With iTunes Music Store however, I have been buying tracks left and right. Listening to genre's I never would have experimented with otherwise.
So how much does a track cost you, when you buy a whole CD for only the couple of tracks you really want? 99 Cents couldn't be cheaper! And, I bet you in one one years time, the cost will be 1.09 and I'd still be happy to pay it for the luxury of choosing what I want.
I never even thought about were the tracks are stored on my Mac, there has never been a reason to work outside of iTunes to manage my tracks.
On my wifes Compaq using WMP9 and a Creative Muvo 128 MP3, we are always having to jump between explorer and WMP to copy tracks to the MP3 and even to find tracks is a pain as over time the ended up in different places.
I downloaded iTunes for Windows for her and the first cool thing was now she can see my entire music library and play it and I can see hers. It works great and is a lot more elegant than WMP9 IMO for what we do. I like the fact that I can encode in MP3 and burn MP3 as well. Too burning is so easy as is ripping. Apple did it right for the common user. most users who have found some faults with it, seem to be the kind that like to fiddle with the underpinnings. Being in the computer industry since the PC industry started, I like things to just work, I hate wasting my time on poor implementations.
Congrats Apple!
On my PowerMac AGP 500 , I RIP, browse and play music all simultaneously, without skipping a beat. Have Mail and NetNewswire running in background autoupdating too. When it comes to multi-tasking Windows doesn't come close to OS X. I have been a both XP PCs and only one Mac, but love my Mac (been a switcher for 10 months now).
If I was a PC zealot I would still be disgusted at PC World. There tests do nothing but illustrate the bias in the industry. Once a test is published like this, it destroys the credibility of the PC base. Comparing a dead-end aging App like Premiere on the Mac which was ported from an old obsolete Premiere on Windows. It gives the impression that the author was hard pressed to find a slower App on the G5.
How hard would it have been to compare the much more popular Final Cut Pro against the latest version of Premiere on a task by task basis? Not hard at all. What a shame!
The funny thing about the PC World review is Apple actually beat out Athlon and Opteron on the only test that counts, Photoshop. Everyone knows that Premiere on the Mac is a dead App not being updated in over 2 years and poorly written at that.
PC World having to use Premiere as a benchmark is laughable and desperate. They should have used Final Cut Pro (even Express) against the latest version of Premiere performing similar tasks. That would have been a fair test of real word Apps. I don't know who would have won this test had it been done right, but at least it would not have left a stink.
Shame on you PC World for giving into childish tactics!
Apple's support cycle is five years. Nothing unusual here. However, just because you can't officially upgrade to Panther, doesn't mean your Mac can't be used anymore. Just keep doing what you're doing with Jaguar, it's an awesome OS.
It's breathtaking, especially for jobs that push computing limits. Do your due diligence, if you are runnign small jobs with little bandwidth requirements, so what any computer will due. But, if you are pushing the limits the G5 doesn't skip a beat. That is why you buy a high performance machine, to perform when the pressure is high.
Some problem here with my Windows PCs, both the Dell laptop and Sony Vaio start thrashing though they have plenty of RAM. Doing any encoding brings the whole system to a crawl. It is really amazing that my old 500 MHz PowerMac G4 AGP, is consistently more responsive and I can have so many more Apps running simultaneously without any thrashing at all.
When I read all the Wintel benchmarks and compare that against my actual experience, me thinks the benchmarks need a reality test.
By the way 10.2.8 sped up my system, not as fast as the Panther betas but it is snappier.
the X1000 uses the crummy centrino GPU and is a pound and 1/2" thicker. Doesn't have the same high speed ports, backlit keyboard, ATI9600GPU, cinema display and isn't aluminum. But it costs the same?
The new Powerbook G4 15" is the gold standard in noebooks. Oh, did I mention the automatic bus slewing like its G5 big brother. This is one awesome notebook.
We need to put up a running banner on why the G5 has 9 fans and large heat sinks. So many lazy people who comment on stuff they don't put any energy to learn about.
The G5 does not have a fan directly on it, it is off to the side and thus it requires a heat sink that is deeper with air pathways between the layers so the air can flow freely through the heat sink and cool it. Thus the unusually tall heat sink.
The G5 processor is controlled to such a degree that in most cases the processor is slewed down to 1.3GHz and at that speed actually doesn't even require the fan to be running. (Apple keeps it running at a trickle speed in order to bring it alive faster in case the processors load was to suddenly increase.) The speed of the processor is automatically adjusted between 1.3 GHz to 2GHz. It steps automatically and quickly in either direction. (There is a preference in OS X to adjust this feature.)
In a notebook configuration with the G5 running between 1.3 and 2GHz, a fan directly on the processor will provide much better cooling. I you can cool a Pentium 4-M which generates significantly more heat in a notebook you can definitely cool a G5. Apple has other considerations though. The U3 controller needs to be adjusted as does the FSB. I don't blieve Apple will go with a 2:1 core to FSB ratio in a notebook, though it is possible.
Not only has Apple's notebook market share grown to 7% generally, they are the number 1 notebook seller to education with 30% of that market and growing.
non-rechargeable keyboards last for nine months and the mice for three. For the cost of rechargeable batteries (6) and a charger, you could get a decade of AA batteries for the keyboard and mouse, So what is your point again?
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I wouldn't say so slow. Just re-sizing is not as fast as native re-sizing. Considering this is version 1, expect it to get faster with each revision. This has ben the experience with most Apple Apps, they get faster as time goes by. This may be a nice difference for Windows users who are used to seeing the opposite from Microsoft. I am speaking from personal experience. My Mac get's faster with every new release from Apple. My PC gets slower with every new release from Microsoft. Has anyone else experienced this?
The new version of QT that comes with iTunes is much nicer performance wise.
They released a new version of QT, 6.4 along with iTunes. It is a lot better performing even on my slowest PC's.
Apple's really getting quite a few things to happen standard wise. Besides MP4 and AAC, ZeroConf aka Rendezvous, and FireWire to name a few and they all made it into iTunes for Windows, Pretty nice intellectual property advantage for Apple.
You're kidding right. How about that subscription fee! Ooops, forgot to mention that, didn't we?! What a troll.
SO you have the ability to make smart (dynamic) playlists with and without scripting. That's pretty awesome! Appeals to both the geek and non-geek. It's nice to know that you are not limited.
A copy of coffee in New York costs me 1.10 now at the local store and I piss it out within the hour. 99 cents is cheap since I don't have to buy a whole album where only two or three songs are good. I used to have a personal rule that I wouldn't buy a CD unless I liked three songs on it, besides Linkin Park, Frida, AND Norah Jones, I have not purchased any other CD's lately. With iTunes Music Store however, I have been buying tracks left and right. Listening to genre's I never would have experimented with otherwise. So how much does a track cost you, when you buy a whole CD for only the couple of tracks you really want? 99 Cents couldn't be cheaper! And, I bet you in one one years time, the cost will be 1.09 and I'd still be happy to pay it for the luxury of choosing what I want.
I never even thought about were the tracks are stored on my Mac, there has never been a reason to work outside of iTunes to manage my tracks. On my wifes Compaq using WMP9 and a Creative Muvo 128 MP3, we are always having to jump between explorer and WMP to copy tracks to the MP3 and even to find tracks is a pain as over time the ended up in different places. I downloaded iTunes for Windows for her and the first cool thing was now she can see my entire music library and play it and I can see hers. It works great and is a lot more elegant than WMP9 IMO for what we do. I like the fact that I can encode in MP3 and burn MP3 as well. Too burning is so easy as is ripping. Apple did it right for the common user. most users who have found some faults with it, seem to be the kind that like to fiddle with the underpinnings. Being in the computer industry since the PC industry started, I like things to just work, I hate wasting my time on poor implementations. Congrats Apple!
ADSubtract is messing with Apples HTML engine that comes with iTunes for Windows.
On my PowerMac AGP 500 , I RIP, browse and play music all simultaneously, without skipping a beat. Have Mail and NetNewswire running in background autoupdating too. When it comes to multi-tasking Windows doesn't come close to OS X. I have been a both XP PCs and only one Mac, but love my Mac (been a switcher for 10 months now).
If I was a PC zealot I would still be disgusted at PC World. There tests do nothing but illustrate the bias in the industry. Once a test is published like this, it destroys the credibility of the PC base. Comparing a dead-end aging App like Premiere on the Mac which was ported from an old obsolete Premiere on Windows. It gives the impression that the author was hard pressed to find a slower App on the G5.
How hard would it have been to compare the much more popular Final Cut Pro against the latest version of Premiere on a task by task basis? Not hard at all. What a shame!
The funny thing about the PC World review is Apple actually beat out Athlon and Opteron on the only test that counts, Photoshop. Everyone knows that Premiere on the Mac is a dead App not being updated in over 2 years and poorly written at that. PC World having to use Premiere as a benchmark is laughable and desperate. They should have used Final Cut Pro (even Express) against the latest version of Premiere performing similar tasks. That would have been a fair test of real word Apps. I don't know who would have won this test had it been done right, but at least it would not have left a stink. Shame on you PC World for giving into childish tactics!
Apple's support cycle is five years. Nothing unusual here. However, just because you can't officially upgrade to Panther, doesn't mean your Mac can't be used anymore. Just keep doing what you're doing with Jaguar, it's an awesome OS.
It's breathtaking, especially for jobs that push computing limits. Do your due diligence, if you are runnign small jobs with little bandwidth requirements, so what any computer will due. But, if you are pushing the limits the G5 doesn't skip a beat. That is why you buy a high performance machine, to perform when the pressure is high.
Some problem here with my Windows PCs, both the Dell laptop and Sony Vaio start thrashing though they have plenty of RAM. Doing any encoding brings the whole system to a crawl. It is really amazing that my old 500 MHz PowerMac G4 AGP, is consistently more responsive and I can have so many more Apps running simultaneously without any thrashing at all. When I read all the Wintel benchmarks and compare that against my actual experience, me thinks the benchmarks need a reality test. By the way 10.2.8 sped up my system, not as fast as the Panther betas but it is snappier.
I am noticing a difference as well. Your numbers indicate about 8-10% improvement. That feels about right.
Weight and thickness conspicuously missing from your comments.
When a notebook weighs over 7 lbs it is no longer a notebook. Some of these Wintel notebooks reach 12 lbs in weight. Ridiculous.
the X1000 uses the crummy centrino GPU and is a pound and 1/2" thicker. Doesn't have the same high speed ports, backlit keyboard, ATI9600GPU, cinema display and isn't aluminum. But it costs the same? The new Powerbook G4 15" is the gold standard in noebooks. Oh, did I mention the automatic bus slewing like its G5 big brother. This is one awesome notebook.
Jebus save you from your own ignorance. Have you even compared the G5's heat output with other processors? It doesn't run hot.
We need to put up a running banner on why the G5 has 9 fans and large heat sinks. So many lazy people who comment on stuff they don't put any energy to learn about.
The G5 does not have a fan directly on it, it is off to the side and thus it requires a heat sink that is deeper with air pathways between the layers so the air can flow freely through the heat sink and cool it. Thus the unusually tall heat sink.
The G5 processor is controlled to such a degree that in most cases the processor is slewed down to 1.3GHz and at that speed actually doesn't even require the fan to be running. (Apple keeps it running at a trickle speed in order to bring it alive faster in case the processors load was to suddenly increase.) The speed of the processor is automatically adjusted between 1.3 GHz to 2GHz. It steps automatically and quickly in either direction. (There is a preference in OS X to adjust this feature.)
In a notebook configuration with the G5 running between 1.3 and 2GHz, a fan directly on the processor will provide much better cooling. I you can cool a Pentium 4-M which generates significantly more heat in a notebook you can definitely cool a G5. Apple has other considerations though. The U3 controller needs to be adjusted as does the FSB. I don't blieve Apple will go with a 2:1 core to FSB ratio in a notebook, though it is possible.
Not only has Apple's notebook market share grown to 7% generally, they are the number 1 notebook seller to education with 30% of that market and growing.
Intel sells processors, Apple sells computers. Your beef really is with Motorola and IBM now.
They always cut prices, both the 15" and 17" also reductions in base price.
Apple lets its large customers know. They even seeded G5's with some (NASA for example).
non-rechargeable keyboards last for nine months and the mice for three. For the cost of rechargeable batteries (6) and a charger, you could get a decade of AA batteries for the keyboard and mouse, So what is your point again?