I've been thinking about this for the past hour, and I'm thinking it really isn't. We can argue all day long whether this is a step in the right direction, I would have to disagree that it's a step in the wrong direction.
I'm a hardcore libertarian and I'm saying this! My reasoning is that I don't think there's a "right to lie". In fact, I think most lies border on fraud to begin with. I can't support anyone's right to falsify WHOIS records anymore than I could support their right to falsify their personal resume or travel under a false identity.
At the same time, I would fully support the right of everyone to answer "Decline to State" or "MYOB" with regards to any personal information.
Games? What games? I thought people just chose a system based on what they wanted. Oh well, at least by using FreeBSD I'm not getting all sweaty and stinky in that silly race you think you have to win...
But Republicans are? No Greens or Libertarians are bitching about it either? Just the Democrats? I don't get this. This affects ALL voters abroad, not just the Democrats.
This may be a stupid move by the DoD, but this isn't an anti-Kerry conspiracy. Get real.
Because the latter are university professors, practitioners in their field, and other acknowledged experts. But Wikipedia's writers and editors are UNKNOWN. They're anonymous surfers editing on a whim.
Geeks use Wikipedia the most. Geeks think they know everything. Geeks are opinionated. Thus we get opinionated know-it-alls editing the articles. The only reason Wikipedia isn't a pile of steaming dingo dung is because those same geeks prefer to edit articles about Heavy Metal Umlauts and Moe's Tavern.
I think that wikipedia does have its strengths, but the current version of wiki is not that version
Obligatory Wikipediarian reply: "But it could be that version now if only you would start editing articles instead of must reading them. We can create a perfect world if only everyone would devote themselves to rooting out errors on Wikipedia. Join me as we all join hands and sing..."
Complaints about VOIP and 911 are usually a cover for real complaints about VOIP and wiretapping.
I'm not covering up anything. As someone who has had to use the telephone during power outages, had to call 911, and even had to call 911 during a power outage, it is a genuine concern to me that my phone works during an emergency. I don't care whose fault it is, I just want it to work.
What world are you talking about? My uncle used to be the largest cattleman in his state and is by no means a corporation, and his "huge factory farm" consists of his ordinary pasture covered hills. His property is not an "incredible environmental disaster". He owns his own land so it isn't "government land". And he most certainly does not get discounts on his water and electricity.
Yes, his world is quite different from yours.
Hey, why are we talking about steers? I thought we were supposed to talking about nationalizing paper and pencils to preserve Freedom of the Press?
Will VoIP still work when the power is down? Will 911 still work? Will the operators at 911 know my location? As obsolete as landlines are, the do have one redeeming quality: they work reliably.
we would effectively be right back to the same situation we have now.
Not at all. You would still have owner-investors, but the ownership would not be diluted throughout several hundred thousand investors lacking any interest in the activities of the company.
Today's situation is a world full of corporations that are out of control because NO ONE takes responsibility for them. The owners have had their liability absolved by government, and don't care what their property is used for so long as the stock prices keep going up and the dividends keep rolling in. The executives don't have that responsibility and are liable only to the extent that they can get fired.
Limited liability was a con perpetrated by corporate executives, who thus get to control the company without incurring any ownership responsibilities. But they can only perpetrate this con with the government's help.
You pretty much said what I meant to say. If you have a cool new idea for implementing a subsystem what do you do? You're only choices in seeing it implemented are forking the project or starting a smear campaign against the old subsystem. DragonflyBSD did the former, and the myriad political battles in Linux attest to the popularity of the latter.
But what really goes on in companies you invest in half way across the continent? It's impossible to know for sure.
That's why you don't invest in the ownership of the company. Is this too difficult to understand? An investment isn't synonymous with ownership. Consider bonds as just one example. I have no doubt that new investment instruments will be invented seconds are stockholders find themselves liable for their corporate ownership.
You could make the same argument about food. Privatizing food would mean no one wcould eat steak, because economies of scale will make McDonald's hamburgers so much cheaper.
Oh wait! Food is privatized, industrial globburgers are cheaper than steak, yet I had a filet mignon yesterday for dinner. And without the government's help. Go figure...
In the same vein, I'm also using FreeBSD, KDE and OpenOffice, despite the government's craven capitulation to Microsoft. You see, people who do care about issues like these WILL make the effort. Most people won't care if OfficeDepot puts resrictions on their pens and pencils, but I do care so I'll drive that extra two blocks to Bob's Discount Office Supply.
What a horrendous idea. It's not enough that a shareholder lose their investment. They have to lose their house as well.
Then they shouldn't be buying shares of *ownership*! That's like complaining that no one will invest in real estate if we make landowners liable for their properties.
If the Dems and Reps don't look out, the next election could be between Greens and Libertarians, with the former major parties groveling for signatures to get on the ballot.
You're absolutely correct. My company used to be run by the engineers, with a CEO who was an engineers. Then the CEO retired and sold his 51% to a huge European based multinational. Now we're being run by MBAs. They are telling us to port our hard realtime embedded products over to Windows XP. Huh? They also bought our competitor, and are now telling us to dump one highly successful and market leading product feature with the competitor's substandard implementation, all in the name of "code reuse". Huh? When they learned you couldn't run a.NET environment on a DSP, we discover that there's an initiative to eliminate DSPs in our products. Huh?
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Agreed, its a step in the wrong direction.
I've been thinking about this for the past hour, and I'm thinking it really isn't. We can argue all day long whether this is a step in the right direction, I would have to disagree that it's a step in the wrong direction.
I'm a hardcore libertarian and I'm saying this! My reasoning is that I don't think there's a "right to lie". In fact, I think most lies border on fraud to begin with. I can't support anyone's right to falsify WHOIS records anymore than I could support their right to falsify their personal resume or travel under a false identity.
At the same time, I would fully support the right of everyone to answer "Decline to State" or "MYOB" with regards to any personal information.
It would come with beer brewing software...
And if it doesn't, you can still get it here...
Sorry, the games over now.
Games? What games? I thought people just chose a system based on what they wanted. Oh well, at least by using FreeBSD I'm not getting all sweaty and stinky in that silly race you think you have to win...
Why, in a couple of minutes, some rightwinger will reply to this post, telling us how good we have it...compared to the 3rd worlders.
You're right. Anyone who thinks the US is better off than the 3rd world can only be a rightwinger...
...but Democrats Abroad aren't happy.
But Republicans are? No Greens or Libertarians are bitching about it either? Just the Democrats? I don't get this. This affects ALL voters abroad, not just the Democrats.
This may be a stupid move by the DoD, but this isn't an anti-Kerry conspiracy. Get real.
But what about BAPP? (BSD, Apache, PostGres, Python?)
p.s. "BAPP" is pronounced Batman-style
Why do people necessarily trust the later more?
Because the latter are university professors, practitioners in their field, and other acknowledged experts. But Wikipedia's writers and editors are UNKNOWN. They're anonymous surfers editing on a whim.
Geeks use Wikipedia the most. Geeks think they know everything. Geeks are opinionated. Thus we get opinionated know-it-alls editing the articles. The only reason Wikipedia isn't a pile of steaming dingo dung is because those same geeks prefer to edit articles about Heavy Metal Umlauts and Moe's Tavern.
I think that wikipedia does have its strengths, but the current version of wiki is not that version
Obligatory Wikipediarian reply: "But it could be that version now if only you would start editing articles instead of must reading them. We can create a perfect world if only everyone would devote themselves to rooting out errors on Wikipedia. Join me as we all join hands and sing..."
...or the Heavy metal umlaut...
I think you just proved his point
Sorry, you'll have to take down your space elevator. It violates our signage ordinance...
20% of drivers in Seattle are tourists?
Microsoft is doing something interesting and innovating. ...like copying Unix
The Unix world could use this
What? Copying Windows? I thought we already were...
Complaints about VOIP and 911 are usually a cover for real complaints about VOIP and wiretapping.
I'm not covering up anything. As someone who has had to use the telephone during power outages, had to call 911, and even had to call 911 during a power outage, it is a genuine concern to me that my phone works during an emergency. I don't care whose fault it is, I just want it to work.
So you're saying the US is going to be left behind because we don't have a VoIP monopoly?
What world are you talking about? My uncle used to be the largest cattleman in his state and is by no means a corporation, and his "huge factory farm" consists of his ordinary pasture covered hills. His property is not an "incredible environmental disaster". He owns his own land so it isn't "government land". And he most certainly does not get discounts on his water and electricity.
Yes, his world is quite different from yours.
Hey, why are we talking about steers? I thought we were supposed to talking about nationalizing paper and pencils to preserve Freedom of the Press?
but those of us using Gecko-based browsing are quite fanatical about it. :)
Careful, they could do an Apple on you, and use the other Free Software HTML rendering engine...
Will VoIP still work when the power is down? Will 911 still work? Will the operators at 911 know my location? As obsolete as landlines are, the do have one redeeming quality: they work reliably.
we would effectively be right back to the same situation we have now.
Not at all. You would still have owner-investors, but the ownership would not be diluted throughout several hundred thousand investors lacking any interest in the activities of the company.
Today's situation is a world full of corporations that are out of control because NO ONE takes responsibility for them. The owners have had their liability absolved by government, and don't care what their property is used for so long as the stock prices keep going up and the dividends keep rolling in. The executives don't have that responsibility and are liable only to the extent that they can get fired.
Limited liability was a con perpetrated by corporate executives, who thus get to control the company without incurring any ownership responsibilities. But they can only perpetrate this con with the government's help.
My uncle is in the cattle business, and unlike dairy, beef cattle get no government subsidies in the US.
You pretty much said what I meant to say. If you have a cool new idea for implementing a subsystem what do you do? You're only choices in seeing it implemented are forking the project or starting a smear campaign against the old subsystem. DragonflyBSD did the former, and the myriad political battles in Linux attest to the popularity of the latter.
But what really goes on in companies you invest in half way across the continent? It's impossible to know for sure.
That's why you don't invest in the ownership of the company. Is this too difficult to understand? An investment isn't synonymous with ownership. Consider bonds as just one example. I have no doubt that new investment instruments will be invented seconds are stockholders find themselves liable for their corporate ownership.
You could make the same argument about food. Privatizing food would mean no one wcould eat steak, because economies of scale will make McDonald's hamburgers so much cheaper.
Oh wait! Food is privatized, industrial globburgers are cheaper than steak, yet I had a filet mignon yesterday for dinner. And without the government's help. Go figure...
In the same vein, I'm also using FreeBSD, KDE and OpenOffice, despite the government's craven capitulation to Microsoft. You see, people who do care about issues like these WILL make the effort. Most people won't care if OfficeDepot puts resrictions on their pens and pencils, but I do care so I'll drive that extra two blocks to Bob's Discount Office Supply.
What a horrendous idea. It's not enough that a shareholder lose their investment. They have to lose their house as well.
Then they shouldn't be buying shares of *ownership*! That's like complaining that no one will invest in real estate if we make landowners liable for their properties.
If the Dems and Reps don't look out, the next election could be between Greens and Libertarians, with the former major parties groveling for signatures to get on the ballot.
You're absolutely correct. My company used to be run by the engineers, with a CEO who was an engineers. Then the CEO retired and sold his 51% to a huge European based multinational. Now we're being run by MBAs. They are telling us to port our hard realtime embedded products over to Windows XP. Huh? They also bought our competitor, and are now telling us to dump one highly successful and market leading product feature with the competitor's substandard implementation, all in the name of "code reuse". Huh? When they learned you couldn't run a .NET environment on a DSP, we discover that there's an initiative to eliminate DSPs in our products. Huh?