GLib is a part of GTK. The fact that is had traditionally been distributed as a separate tarball in parallel with GTK is beside the point. You might not be getting the GUI toolkit, but you are tying your KDE application to a GNOME controlled package.
GLib support as an option is a Good Thing(tm), as it allows GNOME users to use some KDE audio apps without installing all of KDE. But it should not be required. Unfortunately, the new Arts requires it, which I hope changes soon.
You are however not required to make modifications available to the public.
This is begging the question. You are still required to make the software available to each and every one of your customers, with no restrictions on their subsequent disclosure of it to the public.
In other words, you cannot prevent your software being made public. This is what businesses are truly concerned with, so telling them they aren't required to disclose their software is slightly disingenuous.
That's the only point I bring up here, because it happens to be the point the earlier post addressed. For a more indepth trouncing of the film, by a liberal nonetheless, see "Unfairenheit 911".
Do you even remember the events of the weeks of 9/11? The administration might not have announced proof positive that the Taliban was behind this, but anti-Arab prejudices were running amok among the populace
But what difference does it make? Only a nut thinks that flying some foreign college kids out of the country equals conspiracy.
Answer: I don't know, but I can assure you that it's finite. If you want to know the exact price, ask your insurance agent...
The point is, you cannot use an argument that life is infinitely precious, because it's simply not true. If it was you would never get out on a ship, because there is a small but finite probability that you will drown and lose your infinitely precious life.
Do you ban peanut butter because someone might have a deadly peanut allergy and not know it until it's too late?
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It's all a matter of perspective. You see, if IBM does it with chalk to promote Linux, it's good. But when Diageo does it with soap to promote Smirnoff, it's bad.
Gotta love the Slashdot ethos...
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Who the hell cares that some members of the bin Laden family got shuttled out of the country? This whole brouhaha is, to use a quaint term, a nothingburger.
The bin Laden family is a HUGE family. From what I understand the family patriarch had 54 children, not counting the hundreds of cousins. Osama was the black sheep of the family. He was disowned kicked out of his home country. This is strike one against Mr. Moore, because any ties between Bush and the bin Laden family are completely irrelevant to anything Osama did.
It's not a big deal that bin Ladens attending university in the US were flown out of the country. This was for their protection. If non-Arab sikhs were killed (one was killed in my hometown a week after 9/11) just because they wore turbans, how much more danger would people be if they were named "bin Laden"?
Michael Moore found a tiny molehill in the flight of some bin Laden family members out of the country. It doesn't surprise me that he managed to make an entire 90 minute propaganda film out of this molehill. What is truly amazing are the hordes of people who think this is significant.
This affects anyone who wishes to program in Java.
No, it only affects people who wish to contribute code TO Java. A universe of difference. Take a look at C and C++. Their specifications are 100% open, and essentially in the public domain. Any fewer protections than the BSD license would give. But no one has been able to "hijack" those languages.
The BSD license (or freer) is essential for software that is to be a standard. Even the FSF says BSD is appropriate in such situations. All you need to prevent proprietary enhancements is a trademark. You don't follow the specs, you can't call it "Java".
This way, at least they know that nobody (like MS) will use the code they are opening after years of development, turn it into a proprietary, incompatible beast
Java currently IS a proprietary incompatible beast. What's your point?...and even perhaps make money out of Sun's effort...
Heaven forbid that anyone should make any money off of someone else's work! A bunch of people, including Richard Stallman, the creator of the GPL, see nothing wrong with people making monetary profit off of other's works....without contributing anything back.
This affects Sun, and only Sun. It is not your code. If they aren't getting their panties in a twist over the thought of people not reciprocating their generosity, that is their concern, not yours.
It all depends on what terms you want to place on that software. If you don't know you should never have written it to begin with.
Figure out what terms you want, tell it to a laywer, and voila... instant EULA!
Of course, it could be that you don't even WANT a license. If all you want is to ensure that the customer doesn't copy, distribute or modify your software, all you really need as a simple copyright. And you ALREADY have that! The only thing a license is good for is if you want to further restrict your user (or do the opposite and grant them some additional permission). You want to absolve yourself of liability if your product blows up and kills your customer's children. But you don't need a software license of that, because you're already entering in a contract over the product anyway.
Actually, most ISPs will allow you to use whatever operating system you want. You might not get official tier one support if you have a problem with it, but most really don't care what you use. Ditto with the software you install over it.
It's only your employers and colleges that get their knickers in a bunch if you're not using Windows...
I do read my responses. You are right though, it does sound an awful like Mike Savage. I hate that asshole as much as I hate Michael Moore. Their personalities are much the same.
How do you know they weren't protesting then, too?
Because I was there! I do not recall any traffic blocking protests in downtown San Fransisco over Clinton's bombing of an aspirin factory or his military involvement in Kosovo.
According to the reports from the left, it is the Bush administration that is restricting free speech. Yet why am I seeing so much free speech protesting Iraq now, but didn't see any of it for the eight years of Clinton?
I am not saying Clinton was wrong and Bush is right, I'm only pointing out the glaring differences between then and now. These protests are not against the war in Iraq, they're against a specific presidential administration.
But I doubt we've tried out every type of society yet.
We don't have to. Speculative fiction isn't about picking odd social traits and behaviors out of a hat and saying "look at me I've created a futuristic society!" That society must make sense and be internally consistant. You can't just have upper class courtesans slumming about in rustbuckets along the rim, without giving a reason why.
Why must a college campus be treated any differently from other organizations? If you're an employee, grad student, or are otherwise obligated to connect to their network, then they should supply you with the computer, just like an employer. My employer does NOT come to my home and tell me what software must be on my personally owned computer. They have the right to prevent me from accessing their network from home, but no further.
If campuses are providing internet access as a benefit to students, then they're acting like ISPs. If a small mom-n-pop ISP can handle issues like this, then so can a college or university.
Most campuses seem to be a combination of both. They have their local network(s) with gateways to the internet. So they have to act like both businesses and ISPs. Both the campus AND the students need to realize this.
Nothing criminal, I assure you. Both were pursuant to aquiring employment. One for government employment, and the other for private employment. I won't say what those jobs were, but I can assure you that most people on Slashdot will say "well of course we need people in that occupation to be fingerprinted!"
You're probably right about their ages. In the sixties one say a bunch of teenagers protesting Johnson and Nixon but who where much to young to have been protesting Truman and Eisenhower. It's probably the same thing here, but you just can't tell ages in an online community.
But I will have to disagree wiht selective protesting. You can certainly choose to protest a particular issue, but you must be consistant about it. Bush has only been in office less than four years. You can't tell me that everyone protesting Bush was too young to know about Clinton's military activities.
However, even though courtesans with high social status like the "Companions" in Firefly have existed in history, they tend to exist in cultures where there is a big gap between male and female society and very well-defined gender roles. But the world of Firefly is very egalitarian, it doesn't make sense.
Which is the source of my confusion. Upper class courtesans have existed throughout history, but they only appear in certain kinds of societies. And Firefly does not portray that kind of society.
Now that you bring up the concept of geishas, I'm tempted to think that Joss is basing companions on them, but using a tawdry sensationalist account of them, rather than a more accurate historical view.
I would guess you mean that a "_prop = 0;" is needed after the delete.
That's not needed. The leading underscore implies that it is a member variable. Since this is a destructor there is no problem. It could of course be a static member variable.
But the real problem is that the code was posted by an AC...
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How is that relevant?
.NET advocacy impressions from the other side.
It's just as relevent as all the
GLib is a part of GTK. The fact that is had traditionally been distributed as a separate tarball in parallel with GTK is beside the point. You might not be getting the GUI toolkit, but you are tying your KDE application to a GNOME controlled package.
GLib support as an option is a Good Thing(tm), as it allows GNOME users to use some KDE audio apps without installing all of KDE. But it should not be required. Unfortunately, the new Arts requires it, which I hope changes soon.
You are however not required to make modifications available to the public.
This is begging the question. You are still required to make the software available to each and every one of your customers, with no restrictions on their subsequent disclosure of it to the public.
In other words, you cannot prevent your software being made public. This is what businesses are truly concerned with, so telling them they aren't required to disclose their software is slightly disingenuous.
That's the only point I bring up here, because it happens to be the point the earlier post addressed. For a more indepth trouncing of the film, by a liberal nonetheless, see "Unfairenheit 911".
Oh, and I'm not a conservative...
Do you even remember the events of the weeks of 9/11? The administration might not have announced proof positive that the Taliban was behind this, but anti-Arab prejudices were running amok among the populace
But what difference does it make? Only a nut thinks that flying some foreign college kids out of the country equals conspiracy.
Price on a life anyone....
Answer: I don't know, but I can assure you that it's finite. If you want to know the exact price, ask your insurance agent...
The point is, you cannot use an argument that life is infinitely precious, because it's simply not true. If it was you would never get out on a ship, because there is a small but finite probability that you will drown and lose your infinitely precious life.
Do you ban peanut butter because someone might have a deadly peanut allergy and not know it until it's too late?
It's all a matter of perspective. You see, if IBM does it with chalk to promote Linux, it's good. But when Diageo does it with soap to promote Smirnoff, it's bad.
Gotta love the Slashdot ethos...
Who the hell cares that some members of the bin Laden family got shuttled out of the country? This whole brouhaha is, to use a quaint term, a nothingburger.
The bin Laden family is a HUGE family. From what I understand the family patriarch had 54 children, not counting the hundreds of cousins. Osama was the black sheep of the family. He was disowned kicked out of his home country. This is strike one against Mr. Moore, because any ties between Bush and the bin Laden family are completely irrelevant to anything Osama did.
It's not a big deal that bin Ladens attending university in the US were flown out of the country. This was for their protection. If non-Arab sikhs were killed (one was killed in my hometown a week after 9/11) just because they wore turbans, how much more danger would people be if they were named "bin Laden"?
Michael Moore found a tiny molehill in the flight of some bin Laden family members out of the country. It doesn't surprise me that he managed to make an entire 90 minute propaganda film out of this molehill. What is truly amazing are the hordes of people who think this is significant.
This affects anyone who wishes to program in Java.
No, it only affects people who wish to contribute code TO Java. A universe of difference. Take a look at C and C++. Their specifications are 100% open, and essentially in the public domain. Any fewer protections than the BSD license would give. But no one has been able to "hijack" those languages.
The BSD license (or freer) is essential for software that is to be a standard. Even the FSF says BSD is appropriate in such situations. All you need to prevent proprietary enhancements is a trademark. You don't follow the specs, you can't call it "Java".
This way, at least they know that nobody (like MS) will use the code they are opening after years of development, turn it into a proprietary, incompatible beast
...and even perhaps make money out of Sun's effort...
...without contributing anything back.
Java currently IS a proprietary incompatible beast. What's your point?
Heaven forbid that anyone should make any money off of someone else's work! A bunch of people, including Richard Stallman, the creator of the GPL, see nothing wrong with people making monetary profit off of other's works.
This affects Sun, and only Sun. It is not your code. If they aren't getting their panties in a twist over the thought of people not reciprocating their generosity, that is their concern, not yours.
Your description of what KParts should be is remarkably like what KParts actually is!
Or is that only a Linux thing?
No, distcc and clusters work with BSDs, and most other operating systems, too.
It all depends on what terms you want to place on that software. If you don't know you should never have written it to begin with.
Figure out what terms you want, tell it to a laywer, and voila... instant EULA!
Of course, it could be that you don't even WANT a license. If all you want is to ensure that the customer doesn't copy, distribute or modify your software, all you really need as a simple copyright. And you ALREADY have that! The only thing a license is good for is if you want to further restrict your user (or do the opposite and grant them some additional permission). You want to absolve yourself of liability if your product blows up and kills your customer's children. But you don't need a software license of that, because you're already entering in a contract over the product anyway.
Actually, most ISPs will allow you to use whatever operating system you want. You might not get official tier one support if you have a problem with it, but most really don't care what you use. Ditto with the software you install over it.
It's only your employers and colleges that get their knickers in a bunch if you're not using Windows...
I do read my responses. You are right though, it does sound an awful like Mike Savage. I hate that asshole as much as I hate Michael Moore. Their personalities are much the same.
How do you know they weren't protesting then, too?
Because I was there! I do not recall any traffic blocking protests in downtown San Fransisco over Clinton's bombing of an aspirin factory or his military involvement in Kosovo.
According to the reports from the left, it is the Bush administration that is restricting free speech. Yet why am I seeing so much free speech protesting Iraq now, but didn't see any of it for the eight years of Clinton?
I am not saying Clinton was wrong and Bush is right, I'm only pointing out the glaring differences between then and now. These protests are not against the war in Iraq, they're against a specific presidential administration.
But I doubt we've tried out every type of society yet.
We don't have to. Speculative fiction isn't about picking odd social traits and behaviors out of a hat and saying "look at me I've created a futuristic society!" That society must make sense and be internally consistant. You can't just have upper class courtesans slumming about in rustbuckets along the rim, without giving a reason why.
Fuck you, you should get cancer and die already.
Michael? Michael Moore, is that you?
But what color is the bikeshed?
Why must a college campus be treated any differently from other organizations? If you're an employee, grad student, or are otherwise obligated to connect to their network, then they should supply you with the computer, just like an employer. My employer does NOT come to my home and tell me what software must be on my personally owned computer. They have the right to prevent me from accessing their network from home, but no further.
If campuses are providing internet access as a benefit to students, then they're acting like ISPs. If a small mom-n-pop ISP can handle issues like this, then so can a college or university.
Most campuses seem to be a combination of both. They have their local network(s) with gateways to the internet. So they have to act like both businesses and ISPs. Both the campus AND the students need to realize this.
Nothing criminal, I assure you. Both were pursuant to aquiring employment. One for government employment, and the other for private employment. I won't say what those jobs were, but I can assure you that most people on Slashdot will say "well of course we need people in that occupation to be fingerprinted!"
You're probably right about their ages. In the sixties one say a bunch of teenagers protesting Johnson and Nixon but who where much to young to have been protesting Truman and Eisenhower. It's probably the same thing here, but you just can't tell ages in an online community.
But I will have to disagree wiht selective protesting. You can certainly choose to protest a particular issue, but you must be consistant about it. Bush has only been in office less than four years. You can't tell me that everyone protesting Bush was too young to know about Clinton's military activities.
However, even though courtesans with high social status like the "Companions" in Firefly have existed in history, they tend to exist in cultures where there is a big gap between male and female society and very well-defined gender roles. But the world of Firefly is very egalitarian, it doesn't make sense.
Which is the source of my confusion. Upper class courtesans have existed throughout history, but they only appear in certain kinds of societies. And Firefly does not portray that kind of society.
Now that you bring up the concept of geishas, I'm tempted to think that Joss is basing companions on them, but using a tawdry sensationalist account of them, rather than a more accurate historical view.
I would guess you mean that a "_prop = 0;" is needed after the delete.
That's not needed. The leading underscore implies that it is a member variable. Since this is a destructor there is no problem. It could of course be a static member variable.
But the real problem is that the code was posted by an AC...
Another alternative the media will never tell you about: I've been using Konqueror for years, and have never had a problem.