Man oh man! The guy just admitted that switching to Qt was like finally learning to walk correctly, and now you want him to go back to crawling on his hands and knees:-)
If you're going to write software either write it as a hobby and make it free-beer, or go whole hog and be a real professional. Shareware is facing the end of its existance. Once Free Software catches on in the Windows world, shareware is dead.
you will know that my feeling is that all of the existing toolkits today (Gtk, Qt, XUL and VCL) will become obsolete and we need to start looking at the next generation toolkit system.
So what will this next toolkit be? Under Windows anything is "next generation" compared to win32 and MFC. Heck, if I had to write Windows GUI application professionally, the first thing I would do is buy Qt Professional for Windows!
The only significant advance I can see is to make these widget toolkits into complete application frameworks. Funny, Qt and GNUstep already are! GTK+ isn't but there's no reason it couldn't be.
'work with the Linux community to build a complete, general purpose operating system exclusively from open source software'
Wait a minute! Isn't Fedora directly derived from Redhat? And wasn't it Redhat who smugly proclaimed their superiority over certain other distros because they didn't use ANY proprietary software? Was Redhat lying to us? Or is Fedora not a complete, general purpose operating system? Or have the decided to dump all the Redhat baggage and create a new distro from scratch?
But at least I now know that Fedora Core 1 is not a complete, general purpose operating system built exclusively from open source software.
it does suggest that file sharing can't be hurting sales that much
It doesn't suggest that at all. Consider if sales were up ten million over last year with filesharing, but would have been up twenty million without filesharing. Filesharing would have thus hurt sales by ten million.
I have no idea whether filesharing actually helped or hurt anything, but at least try to keep your logic straight.
In Europe this would have never ever happened: our laws are very strong regarding to personal data and privacy.
I work for a German company where the personal data of German customers is 100% available to the customer support center in Singapore. There's nothing stopping a similar privacy leak happening to this European company.
Another economic factor you didn't mention was the fixed political cost of constructing a reactor. If it takes ten years (as an example) to get the necessary paperwork processed to build a single reactor, you tend to favor large reactors over multiple small reactors.
Maybe that's why I consider the game industry so boring. That's because most of the games I like/liked don't fit into your list of categories. The one exception is "simulation", to hold the likes of Simcity.
Where do you put Civilization? It's not real time strategy. It's a turn based strategy. But that term usually applies to the now vanishing wargame, which Civilization is not in the strict sense. And where do you put the classic roleplaying games like Ultima, Bard's Tale, etc?
The rise of Fox News and talk radio shows that there is another group that is just looking for a filter that reinforces their viewpoint without any disturbing debate entering without being spun.
Actually it's a case of people choosing what bias they wish their news filtered through. All media is biased. Fox/radio doesn't reflect your bias, so you choose to stick with the media that slants its news in your direction.
Whenever you get a Linux distribution, it insalls about 5 differeent web browsers
How to Train a Linux Distro
Acquire a rolled up newpaper, bucket of sawdust, and can of Lysol
Start installation
When distro installs Galeon after you selected KDE as your desktop, wag your finger at the distro and say in a firm and commanding voice "bad distro". Restart the installation
When the distro insists on installing Epiphany even though you have Mozilla and Konqueror, gently but firmly swat its nose with the newspaper. This will startle the distro into peeing on the floor. Rub the distros nose in the urine, then refer to the sawdust and Lysol to clean up the mess.
By now the distro should have learned that you don't want five different web browsers. However be warned. Distros are stubborn creatures, and you must make them know that you are the boss. Always keep the rolled up newspaper in sight where it can see it, but remember to praise it when it does good.
Occasionally a distro may try to "update" itself at boot time with four other webbrowsers and half a dozen text editors. This distro is untrainable. Return it to the ASPCA and choose another breed.
I love hope people fail to realize that the open source movement became a really big deal AFTER computers were a commodity.
Yes, we all realize this. And while Microsoft certainly had a hand in it, they were not necessary to achieve it. IBM PC without DOS probably would have had CP/M. Or without the IBM PC, we would have had some non-PC x86 or 68K boxes instead.
The 386BSD project was not so much about the i386, as it was about getting BSD off of expensive minis and onto cheap micros.
Changing one event in the past can certainly change all of history, but it is ludicrous to think that without that one event history would not have happened.
No one knows for sure who might have quietly bought licenses so far, but letting SCO publicly display the fact you buy a license is definitely a big bad idea.
True. I made damned sure my name wouldn't be mentioned when I bought the license. I even made them rewrite the contract to guarantee it.
Amen! Honor your principles and integrity! When the mob comes in and threatens to break Aunt Martha's kneecaps if she doesn't buy their "insurance", and she acquiesces, refuse to speak to her ever afterward. Don't support organized crime by eating her blueberry cobbler!
So we just encrypt our data, package it, and tunnel it. I really don't think these Cisco routers are going to be up to the task of analyzing just exactly what each packet is intended for. They'll be busy enough just looking up keys. Heck we could even setup a system of P2P-like "trusted" onramps.
Of course we could all just use VPNs and save ourselves the trouble.
Nah, don't bother replying. If you truly believe that you're screwed no matter what, then you probably are. But some of us aren't going to bend over without a fight, and we don't need you telling us it's hopeless.
Do you read Slashdot often? Doesn't this give you a bit of a clue as to the OSS mindset?
The vast majority of Slashdot posters couldn't code their way out of a wet paper bag. They have nothing to do with the development of Open Source software.
Why not? It might be descended from M68BSD instead of 386BSD, but it would have still be here along with NetBSD. That's because Microsoft did nothing to influence the history of BSD, and the only thing IBM did was to provide a cheap popular platform.
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Man oh man! The guy just admitted that switching to Qt was like finally learning to walk correctly, and now you want him to go back to crawling on his hands and knees :-)
If you're going to write software either write it as a hobby and make it free-beer, or go whole hog and be a real professional. Shareware is facing the end of its existance. Once Free Software catches on in the Windows world, shareware is dead.
The only requirement is that if you use the $0.00 license(GPL) the app must be GPL.
Actually, since Qt is dual-licensed for X11, you can use any Open Source license, and not just the GPL.
you will know that my feeling is that all of the existing toolkits today (Gtk, Qt, XUL and VCL) will become obsolete and we need to start looking at the next generation toolkit system.
So what will this next toolkit be? Under Windows anything is "next generation" compared to win32 and MFC. Heck, if I had to write Windows GUI application professionally, the first thing I would do is buy Qt Professional for Windows!
The only significant advance I can see is to make these widget toolkits into complete application frameworks. Funny, Qt and GNUstep already are! GTK+ isn't but there's no reason it couldn't be.
Dialog boxes, widget sets, choosers etc are still in the Win 3.x world.
What Windows are you using? It can't be Windows XP, because it still has dialog boxes, widget sets, choosers, etc.
So it's not like java at all. right?
Java: Write once run anywhere except on the customer's desktop.
'work with the Linux community to build a complete, general purpose operating system exclusively from open source software'
Wait a minute! Isn't Fedora directly derived from Redhat? And wasn't it Redhat who smugly proclaimed their superiority over certain other distros because they didn't use ANY proprietary software? Was Redhat lying to us? Or is Fedora not a complete, general purpose operating system? Or have the decided to dump all the Redhat baggage and create a new distro from scratch?
But at least I now know that Fedora Core 1 is not a complete, general purpose operating system built exclusively from open source software.
it does suggest that file sharing can't be hurting sales that much
It doesn't suggest that at all. Consider if sales were up ten million over last year with filesharing, but would have been up twenty million without filesharing. Filesharing would have thus hurt sales by ten million.
I have no idea whether filesharing actually helped or hurt anything, but at least try to keep your logic straight.
In Europe this would have never ever happened: our laws are very strong regarding to personal data and privacy.
I work for a German company where the personal data of German customers is 100% available to the customer support center in Singapore. There's nothing stopping a similar privacy leak happening to this European company.
Another economic factor you didn't mention was the fixed political cost of constructing a reactor. If it takes ten years (as an example) to get the necessary paperwork processed to build a single reactor, you tend to favor large reactors over multiple small reactors.
Maybe that's why I consider the game industry so boring. That's because most of the games I like/liked don't fit into your list of categories. The one exception is "simulation", to hold the likes of Simcity.
Where do you put Civilization? It's not real time strategy. It's a turn based strategy. But that term usually applies to the now vanishing wargame, which Civilization is not in the strict sense. And where do you put the classic roleplaying games like Ultima, Bard's Tale, etc?
The rise of Fox News and talk radio shows that there is another group that is just looking for a filter that reinforces their viewpoint without any disturbing debate entering without being spun.
Actually it's a case of people choosing what bias they wish their news filtered through. All media is biased. Fox/radio doesn't reflect your bias, so you choose to stick with the media that slants its news in your direction.
Now certainly some other company would have made commodity software, but it just would have been a microsoft by another name.
But that alter-Microsoft might not have become an embrace-and-extend monopoly monopoly devoted to released bug ridden security nightmares.
While this is IMO largely a construction of the church, I know people who believe it and have no religious leanings of any kind.
Such as the Atheist and Agnostic Pro-Life League, for example.
I love hope people fail to realize that the open source movement became a really big deal AFTER computers were a commodity.
Yes, we all realize this. And while Microsoft certainly had a hand in it, they were not necessary to achieve it. IBM PC without DOS probably would have had CP/M. Or without the IBM PC, we would have had some non-PC x86 or 68K boxes instead.
The 386BSD project was not so much about the i386, as it was about getting BSD off of expensive minis and onto cheap micros.
Changing one event in the past can certainly change all of history, but it is ludicrous to think that without that one event history would not have happened.
As the Bene-Gesserite say...
It's "Bene Gesserit", but I'm sure you meant well.
No one knows for sure who might have quietly bought licenses so far, but letting SCO publicly display the fact you buy a license is definitely a big bad idea.
True. I made damned sure my name wouldn't be mentioned when I bought the license. I even made them rewrite the contract to guarantee it.
Amen! Honor your principles and integrity! When the mob comes in and threatens to break Aunt Martha's kneecaps if she doesn't buy their "insurance", and she acquiesces, refuse to speak to her ever afterward. Don't support organized crime by eating her blueberry cobbler!
So we just encrypt our data, package it, and tunnel it. I really don't think these Cisco routers are going to be up to the task of analyzing just exactly what each packet is intended for. They'll be busy enough just looking up keys. Heck we could even setup a system of P2P-like "trusted" onramps.
Of course we could all just use VPNs and save ourselves the trouble.
Nah, don't bother replying. If you truly believe that you're screwed no matter what, then you probably are. But some of us aren't going to bend over without a fight, and we don't need you telling us it's hopeless.
Do you read Slashdot often? Doesn't this give you a bit of a clue as to the OSS mindset?
The vast majority of Slashdot posters couldn't code their way out of a wet paper bag. They have nothing to do with the development of Open Source software.
We wouldn't have had a decade of programmers ruined by exposure to BASIC?
Oh... Wrong GW. Sorry. I'm still trying to imagine what the world would have been like without BC.
FreeBSD almost certainly wouldn't exist.
Why not? It might be descended from M68BSD instead of 386BSD, but it would have still be here along with NetBSD. That's because Microsoft did nothing to influence the history of BSD, and the only thing IBM did was to provide a cheap popular platform.
IBM needed an OS, and if MS wasn't there, CP/M was.
There was also the UCSD P-System available at the time. Imagine how different the world would have been today if that had been IBM's choice!
From day one of the PC era, portable byte code would have been the norm!
BSD's main holdup was that it was not designed for 386
At the time, it was. There was 386BSD. By one account I've heard, Linus looked at 386BSD but was scared away by the USL lawsuit happening at the time.