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Firefox Extension Lets You Pick the Name
Rovaedne writes "Mozilla
Firefox , the web browser
formerly known as Firebird,
formerly known as Phoenix, has a new extension which allows you to change the name to something palatable. The extension called
Firesomething lets users change the name seen in the browser titlebar, Help menu, and About dialog, thus erradicating all traces of "Firefox" in
Firefox (currently version 0.8). There is a
name change FAQ, but it currently does not mention this extension. This extension should hopefully help curb some of the criticism that Mozilla has received from its most recent
choice of name."
it's primary function is to randomise the browser name to avoid name clashes. I'm currently browsing in mozilla firebunny, for example.
I am one of many. My idea is not unique, nor do I expect my voice alone to sway you. I speak in a chorus of opinion.
1. Get Firefox ..wait... ;)
2. Change name to Internet Explorer
3. apply IE theme
4. Release as Internet explorer 7
5. Profi... oh
I'm calling mine slash org dot.dot so I can use slash dot dot dot to go to aytch tee tee pee colon slash slash slash dot dot dot org... Because it's no sillier than 4 name changes in 12 months.
I heard it is also possible to let it randomly generate a new name everytime you start Firefox, quite funny :)
Remember: YOU HAVE TO THINK IN RUSSIAN!
I like Firefox. What the hell name would I change it to? Who cares anyway?
Ya know, over all the browser name changes, I've wondered why Ford hasn't sued the shit out of them over the name of the mail client, Thunderbird.
Strange, how it's far easier (at least for me) to see that the sketched black/white drawing is a fox than the coloured rendered version - I thought the coloured version was simply abstract until I saw the sketch :-)
:-)
Who needs computers - bring back sketchpads
Simon
Physicists get Hadrons!
This is just IE 7.0. Want me to get a copy for everyone?
I have been running Firetoad (and sometimes Firemussel) for 3-4 weeks now.
The plugin was actually released the same day as 0.8.
about:config also let's you change the 'Mozilla' bit, too. Mozzerella Seasquid here.
Along the lines of the post above, I could call it "Internet Explorer" and just tell my employees that M$ released an "upgrade." I could do away with the "real" IE once and for all in one fell swoop.
/me heads for early Saturday in the office while everyone is gone
to IE, which has had this feature for years.
Me I'm a maker, mostly of axioms.
So now it has an infinite number of names? Great...
not as if firesomething dates from winter of last year or anything.
me & my Kenya Tourist Board Hairytapir laugh in your general direction
Does anyone remember what Spock's first name was?
The CB App. What's your 20?
With wooden puppets: Thunderbirds are go... dundundeladee.
Or the Triumph Thunderbird motorcycle.
Oooh. Look not a Ford in sight.
In the real world, not necessarily the one you inhabit, the Thunderbird is a mythical beast from native Indian legend.
Government of the people, by corporate executives, for corporate profits.
Phoefirebirdfox ?
...mozilla, which seems just as fast, and more full-featured (e.g. mail, calendar). I must be missing something in the enthusiasm for firefox.
The browser choice for the discerning balrog spider!
I'm renaming it to FireAvian, so it's compatible with RFC 1149
I'm a chainsmokin' alcoholic sociopath, so-ci-o-path
I can see it now, there's the nightly news describing how the web's being used to draw voters attention. with firefox being run as Vote for Bush, or Vote for Kerry. I think I'll just set mine up to say SCO Sucks!!!!
All this "The browser formally known as..." stuff. :)
I'm going to call my firefox "Prince"
Why, you ask?
When I set up a Windows box for a neophyte (admittedly, not often) I do everything I can to purge Internet Exploder from the system. Some might find this unjustifiable, but the only time I'm ever asked (begged) to help Windows is when a friend of my wife's computer is running badly due to six billion viruses and twenty-two trillion Spyware programs.
Anyhow. I hunt down all the shortcuts to IE and file associations to IE (i.e. as a viewer, default browser, blah blah blah) and replace them with Firebird. Then, I swap Firebird's icon with IE's icon. (I do a similar thing with with Lookout Express and ThunderBird). I used to even install the IE theme, but it's been busted for a while.
This will help to complete the illusion.
Of course, when I'm done, I just tell them I put on a new version of "The Internet" called Mozilla to help them not get viruses and spyware in the first place. I make sure they hear the brand at least a dozen times when I'm talking to them, because I want to build brand recognition. Maybe they'll tell their stupid friends how great Mozilla is and their friends will download it and use it. (Wishful thinking, I know).
But we all know that telling a Windows user to use Mozilla Fire* instead of IE will far on deaf ears; these people will click that stupid fuckin' blue E because they want to "get on the Internet". You have to make them use something else, or they WILL succumb to temptation and get infected again.
So far, nobody's come back. Either they hate me now, or they are relatively virus-free; I really don't care which.
At least my daughter was easier to set up. She knows to use Mozilla (full suite) instead of IE/OE. If she truly *needs* to use IE (i.e. one of her favourite sites doesn't work with Moz), she can ask me to add it to IE for her. I do this by modifying the automatic proxy configuration URL -- if it's on my safe site list, it points to Squid; otherwise it points to an inetd->shell hack which tells her to come and see me.
Do daemons dream of electric sleep()?
Disclosure: IAACWU (I am a clueless Windows user).
I loved Firefox's addable tools feature, but then it broke. Could be my obvious ineptitude, but I default back to IE (actually, Avant Browser on top) with a bunch of custom security settings.
Unfortunately, it will not do wonders for Firefox's name recognition if most of its users decide on proprietary appellations. Let's try to increase mindshare by sticking to its official name, and as an added benefit we'll always know to which browser we're referring! Just MHO.
Part of the hardcore faithful who believed in Apple long before it was cool again to do so
there is a registry setting to do this in windows7
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=17649
- The Eminem looking kid from the IBM Linux commercials makes bowel movement.
- Technogeek from Kenosha, Wisconsin hears his grandmother say "red hat" and IMs all his friends to let them know that Linux has finally made the mainstream.
must be a slow news day.
Remember... ZG9uJ3QgZm9yZ2V0IHRvIGRyaW5rIHlvdXIgb3ZhbHRpbmU=
for those obnoxious sites that somehow don't understand what "abuse of monopoly power" means...
Thunderbird is the ripple preferred by gentlemen of leasure everywhere.
I really like this, hadn't know it existed. Now that I'm running FireBush, my entire browsing experience has become faster, leaner and a whole lot less intrusive.
:-)
Here's to hoping that the Mozilla hackers keep up the technical and political innovations.
This extension is just what we need to make Linux distributions more freindly to Joe User.
Whenever you get a Linux distribution, it insalls about 5 differeent web browsers with confusing names such as Konqueror, Mozilla, Lynx, Galeon and Epiphany. There is no need for all those web browsers. And don't scream CHOICE either, you are only going to be using ONE, so why have 5 installed?
This is where this extension comes in. Linux distributions could now just ship one browser, but customised with their experiance. Imagine Debianavigator, Fedora the explorer, SuSEscape, Webdrake, Genfox and Slackzilla web browsers, with their own themeing, but still firefox internally, and "hardcore" users could still change it back if they wanted by downloading the extention.
Lindows already ship a customised Mozilla known as "Lindows Internet Suite", so why can't other Linux distributions do this? They already brand KDE/GNOME/ETC with their menu layouts, icons and apps, so why not do web browsers?
I think I'm going to clear and refill my randomizer lists with MGS style attribute / animal names. Although really, Firefox and the default randomizer list populations aren't that far off :)
Or maybe I'll just set it to run as Mozilla RevolverOcelot all the time. Who knows
Yeah, OpenSourceBrowser isn't very 'sexy', neither is OpenOffice.org, but that seems to work for them...
If you ignore the other uses of a tool, does that make the tool less useful, or you less useful?
This extension should hopefully help curb some of the criticism that Mozilla has received from its most recent choice of name."
You mean the criticism that Mozilla cannot come up with a decent and consistent naming strategy?
Giving users the ability to rename the browser to Mozilla (anything) will really help build brand awareness and promote a consistent naming strategy.........
This plug-in is kinda funny, and I hope the Mozilla folks can take a joke and enjoy the laugh. But treating "the criticism that Mozilla has received from its most recent choice of name" as if it were a serious issue suggests that the submitter of this article could stand to lighten up and look around. The vast majority of Browser Formerly Known As users seem to have taken to the the name "Firefox" pretty well. As the album cover says: 205,000 Google hits for "firefox browser" can't be wrong.
http://alternatives.rzero.com/
Spock's other name (you couldn't pronounce it, as he told the blonde in "This Side of Paradise") isn't given in TOS or TFS. It is given in one or more of the books if you care to believe them. According to the Officer's Manual (and probably originated from D.C. Fontana), it is Xtmprszntwlfd (pronounced with six syllables). In the novel "Ishmael", it is given as S'chin T'gai.
-- rec.arts.startrek.names
Could this be used as legal immunity for linux? So, when SCO decides to sue someone for having an unlicenced linux kernel, they just reply with something like, "Sorry sir McNeal, but I checked this morning.. and what do you know, we actually run Mozillix, Fenix and Bollox... but not linux?"
right?
People don't exist to serve systems, systems exist to serve people.
Nutzilla Firecock. I wonder what other names people have come up with.
:)
After this article, I'm hoping the Slashdot editors go through the logs and find the funniest client names and post a list (after a few days for people to play with names). I can't wait to see what you bastards come up with!
I claim first use of "Error No. 0B" - or "No. 0B error." It'll be the new ID 10T!
They go on to say that un-modified versions can be redistributed with the mozilla branding, but "all other uses of the Mozilla marks require prior written permission." So, if you are doing any kind of browswer hacking, changing the name/logos becomes more or less mandatory in order to stay on Mozilla.org's good side.
They are doing this, so that people don't use the Firefox and Mozilla trademarks (and logos)(which they refuse to license without explicit permission).
Mozilla Foundation probably do not have the right to stop people from using the logos under trademark law, and they certainly cannot stop people using the name or logos if it is made clear that it is only derived from Firefox (but they are trying to anyway).
Firefox doesn't seem to be a registered trademark in the EU yet anyway, and Mozilla is still registered to Netscape Corporation (now Time Warner) in the US and EU.
Joe Llywelyn Griffith Blakesley
[This post is in the public domain (copyright-free) unless otherwise stated]
This should have the "it's funny" icon. You can make serious use of the extension, of course, but by default it will generate random names like "LightningCow" or "PowerBadger".
I modified the preferences to choose names inspired in Japanese tokusatsu. Currently I'm browsing in Mozilla ZyuuraTiga V.
Prescriptive grammar:linguistics
This is all swell and spiffy, but do we need to standardize an environment variable for browsers, as there is for editors, so that we can still use the system effectively in terrifying presence of 'Leonid_Brezhnevs_eyebrows-er'?
Get thee glass eyes, and, like a scurvy politician, seem to see things thou dost not.--King Lear
....damn...newer Mozilla builds require at least glibc 2.2.4
SuSE 7.2 has glibc 2.2.2
I'm not a very big fan of Mozilla at all--not since Phonix/Firebird/Firefox came out. Mozilla renders quickly, but it just feels clunky and slow to get started.
I like Firefox because it's trimmed down and has a smaller footprint. If I want to use mail I just start up Thunderbird. The calendar plugin works from both Thunderbird and Firefox.
I suppose if I regularly needed all the features in Mozilla I'd feel differently. No disrespect to Mozilla, but I really prefer using Firefox and Thunderbird.
Sorry, but does anyone consider this worthy of being posted to Slashdot? There are a dozen Mozilla extensions that are more functional or more fit for conversation.
Good for a few jokes, yes; worth a whole story, no.
G
I vote we get Mozilla to change the name of Firefox PERMANENTLY to "Firesomething". :P
Other than that - Firefox all the way!
By coincidence today I filed a bug in Mozilla because it sends the domain name part of the sender mail address as argument to the SMTP EHLO command when sending mail.
This should be the hostname of the sending machine.
As it turns out, this was a duplicate of a bug reported in februari 2001, that is still open!
That bug in fact talked only about HELO so I did not find it using search. SMTP has been replaced by ESMTP in the meantime, but the issue remains.
Not that there were no contributions, there are 110 followups on the original report, many of them with good suggestions and patches. But in december 2003, things have again come to a standstill it seems.
With such issues, that should be trivial to fix in an evening, open for 3 years, I wonder how a change like this got checked in.
Maybe the remarks about OSS made in another thread are sometimes not that far off the mark?
I was surfing a tech forum and this guy was commenting on browser-IDs. This was about the time of Moz 1.0 when some sites still only worked in IE and rejected other browsers. He'd been into his site logs and found several visits from a browser called "Fuckstick 3000". Which was puzzling to say the least....
I have been a user for about 10 years. This ends Feb 2014. The site's been ruined. I'm off. Dice, FU
I'm running Godzilla Fireshark at the moment...
...about MS products being bloatware. While this functionality may be cute to some it is totally useless on the standpoint of product functionality/stability. I'm glad to see the developers have nothing better to do than to add "eye-candy". Makes me wonder where the priorities are.
thundercougarfalconbird
While switching to linux on the desktop over the past few days, I found myself with a situation that should have been easy to solve.
:) )
I had installed KDE3.2.1, Firefox 0.7 and Thunderbird 0.5. All worked perfectly, but only Firefox had a consistent UI with KDE, Thunderbirds UI was mainly messed up by fonts, which were 1/2 the size of Firefoxes (which is interesting, considering they come from a common source). I hunted high and low for a solution, to get Thunderbirds and Firefoxes UI fonts to look similiar, but the only solution presented anywhere was to install the Gnome Control center, which through I could alter the font sizes.
This solution proved less than satisfactory, since you cant JUST install the control center, half of gnome wants to come as well. So I eventually solved it myself, hacking the userChrome.xul file and altering the font styles there.
The thing I want to know is, why isnt this user configurable from WITHIN thunderbird itself? None of the extensions I installed gave me the option (and indeed, AdvancedOptions extension installed but crashed the app each time it was run.).
Bearing this in mind, I updated to firefox 0.8 and this time the fonts in firefox turned out to be screwed, so i embarked on the same fix, which worked. So obviously the same UI stuff works in both, so why isnt it possible to set these options from within the apps themselves?
Ok end of rant, I must admit my linux desktop looks fantastic, and the font usage within firefox makes webpages look georgous (i never thought slashdot could look so good!). My only wish now is for a browser that emulated IE, so I can test webpages that I produce. Until this happens, Im stuck with Windows on a few of my systems.
Finally, congratulations to both the FireFox team and the Thunderbird team. Now if someone would do the same as these two projects but for the Mozilla Calendar app, I think we could have a fantastic trio of applications. (I know I keep saying "someone" or "why cant", I would myself, but after looking into the mozilla source once, I had nightmares for weeks afterward. Its not nice
"Hey Carol, why is my browser named 'Fired' and defaults to loser.com?"
-Adam
Sure, it's neat, but it's also been around for quite a while. Are we going to /. every extension that's been written for fire{bird|fox}?
I think the site's just screwed. I'm running Opera 7.23, and it still sends me to that page (even though the page itself claims Opera 7 and higher are supported)
Instead of "Firefox 0.8", we should call it "From Now On I Promise To Include The Community On These Sorts of Decisions 0.8"
Just a suggestion.
Everytime I see it. It is such a good movie. As long as you leave off the special effects. It would make a great re-make, except for one small problem....
Here's hoping Putin subverts the will of the people, and casts himself the strong man of the new Soviet Russia. It would do so much for movie, no more eccentric white supervillains. They can go back to the James Bond movies and spoofs of James Bond movies. The Nazi's can rest assured they're not going to be dug up and reused except to possibly close out the Indiana Jones movies.
The precedant was set for us in the late 70's/early 80's via Saturday morning cartoons.
It's a smaller Mozilla, so Mozuki. Sheesh, was that so hard??? =)
This is useful for the infinite number of monkeys on an infinite number of typewriters who type a great novel but happen to write "mozilla firekasoninsplat" at some point in it. Before, the novel would have been wrong and you would have had to throw it away. Now, it is acceptable and you can publish it and earn millions.
about:firefox
And so at last the beast fell and the unbelievers rejoiced. But all was not lost, for from the ash rose a great bird. The bird gazed down upon the unbelievers and cast fire and thunder upon them. For the beast had been reborn with its strength renewed, and the followers of Mammon cowered in horror.
from The Book of Mozilla, 7:15
about:firesomething
And there was a great commotion among the believers and nonbelievers alike, for they saw a great fox of fire and knew not its true nature. But just then a faithful believer extended his hand, and offered a gift to the fiery fox. And the fox was enabled to show its true nature as an ever-changing being, and it turned into a great oyster of power. And the oyster opened its shell, revealing a dazzling pearl to all who would look upon it.
from The Book of Mozilla - Extended Edition, 8:12
Finally I can run Internet Explorer in Linux. Now if i can just get a name change extention for OpenOffice.org
about:firefox
Lo, the bird of fire was magnificent! But a roiling storm was brewing to the south, and dark clouds loomed on the horizon. The bird knew a grim conflict was close at hand and that it could not triumph in its current form. It sat very still, contemplating the situation. Suddenly, in a flash of light and flame, the bird took the form of a great fox the likes of which had never been seen in this land. The dark clouds were scattered to the wind. And all who witnessed this spectacle were awed by its power.
from The Book of Mozilla, 8:10
Not sure what browser you are using? You are using Netscape Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040206 Firethingy/0.8 (Firefox/0.8 rebrand) Thats my laugh for the day.
Optionally modifies the browser's User-Agent string to reflect your custom browser name.
Argh... I can understand it if you wish to access a site that thinks it only works with IE when it actually doesn't, but it's stupid to change it if:
1. You make the name "Mozilla Seaturtle" or something else "just for fun".
2. You keep it set to IE's user agent even if you don't need it.
Why? Because Firefox popularity will decrease in statistics and web masters will feel less reasons to support Firefox when checking their access logs.
Beware: In C++, your friends can see your privates!
With all the time I spend exploring all these neat extentions, my boss suggested to me that I call my browser YoureFired.
To-do List: Receive telemarketing call during a tornado warning. Check.
Nor can they go to Windows Update to ensure that their PC is fully patched
The name changing seems great, but how secure is it? What is stopping someone from writting a cheap javascript that would buffer overflow the title and then allow an attacker to run arbitrary code? Has this been resolved. If nothing else it would be annoying to have the browser change names everytime you move the mouse.
Firefly!
You can't take the sky from me.
Of course, the answer lies in GUID, which is guaranteed to be unique even across the universe. So no more painful name switching of Firebird to Firefox to Firephoebe, just use
Mozilla 43c23aa3-7c29-4ce2-96ca-23c751efe5ff 0.9
I think it should be called Firefoxbird(again)
they can call it shit for all I care. As long as it works well, renders websites correctly, and standards compliant, i'm all for it.
Now I can have that "Bitchin' Camaro" web browser like I always wanted! Awesome! :)
putting the 'B' in LGBTQ+
I keep IE as my 2nd browser at work for testing, and also to use the control panel app on a Cobalt Raq box. Irony, eh?
That's funny. My site is hosted on a virtual Cobalt server through these guys, and I have been able to operate the Cobalt control panel with every version of the Mozilla suite that I've tried. I'd guess it would also work with Fire*.
Sorta kinda off topic but....
Back in "the day" there were those programs that you could run that would display ads while you were browsing the web. Basically it was a strip along the bottom of your screen. It checked for mouse/keyboard movement and made sure the the foremost window had the name of "Internet Explorer". Well I never browsed the web for more than 15 minutes or so but I was on IRC for hours on end using mIRC. And mIRC let you change the name that was shown in the title bar. So I changed it to "Internet Explorer" and... voila! I received a check from the company the next month for about $25 or so... but I got bored of looking at ads and never did it after that.
formally known as "formerly"
Escher was the first MC and Giger invented the HR department.
How about "Sun Java Web Browser"?
org.slashdot.post.SignatureNotFoundException: ewg
They just needed to set one string variable to the current name of the browser. It's much easier to edit that than go through all the code every 3 months to change the name.
Oh just stick a bag over it's head and call it the Unknown Browser. It is seriously getting that silly.
And this won't fix the criticism, since it will officially still be Firefox and that is what ISVs will have to certify against.
Find a good brand for both the browser and mail client and move along please. It is a shame it can't be Mozilla since people are finally certifying on that platform but at least if one is picked (and I don't care if it is "cool" as long as it is not "silly" or easily disdained) we can start re-edumacating the various companies that had been moving towards Mozilla.
It is more productive to voice thoughtful opinions (reply) than to judge (moderate) others.
We should all start to call it FireStar :-)
NCSA Mosaic. Even the latest version still has this mention so I guess longhorn is going to their first browser.
BTW, you can change the name of internet explorer to, it just involves lots of ugly registry hacks. Here is a good howto
... that tech support can be done so well with the voice of Kif.
Fight hunger. Filet a politician and send him to a 3rd world country of your choice.
Of course we don't have executables with names like "Mozilla Firefox", because that's not geeky enough. Still, it should be trivial for any app to allow configuration of the name it displays in the title bar.
I can imagine what would happen, just for example, if The Bride of Monster (Personnel Manager at a sheltered workshop, dealing with handicapped adults) installed a copy of The GIMP on a computer at work, to save their tight budget the expense of buying Photoshop for working up sales brochures and such... Being able to change it so it says 'GNU Image Manipulation' or just 'GNU Image' might save her from the wrath of uptight Politically Correct types.
[100% ISO 646 Compliant]
SVM, ERGO MONSTRO.
Firebert
Quoth Strong Bad: "Ohhhh! Don't make me call you that- it's not a good commando name!"
But since Fire{something} is a web browser, not a commando, so maybe the name will work out fine... I guess.
pi = 3.141592653589793helpimtrappedinauniversefactory7
so, i could rename it to "knetskapesque" and that would help how, exactly?
- God is pretend...
I actually came across this plugin last night while looking for a fix to Firefox losing my bookmarks for my toolbar.
I thought "neat", and quickly moved on, looking for what I was after. It didn't warrant much interest other than that.
And now when I wake up it's front page material for Slashdot??? What gives? Is Sco suing them or something?
Mozilla Lite, F++ Edition
What is so 'unpalatable' about Firefox? I personally like that name. And the animal it is named after, the Red Panda is pretty neat as well. I just switched my mom over to firefox on windows, and she loves it! No more popups! She certainly didn't complain about the 'unpalatable' name.
Did you mount a military-grade, variable-focus MASER on an unlicensed artificial intelligence?
The only problem I have with Firefox 0.8 is that more often than not, it will not display msnbc.com. I usually just get a blank screen.
I don't know but if I had to guess I suspect the problem is non-standard html at msnbc.com. I have to wonder how much of that is accidental.
This ability to change the name is something that you can do very easily in Group Policies in IE/Windows. ALot of schools around our local area (my org does tech support and training for the local school systems in GA) have MS IE brought to you by xxxx County Public Schools. This is the type of little things that will allow Firebird to be integrated into a more managed corporate environment. One of the big selling points of a MS solution is that you can control to the Nth degree user's interfaces, the bookmarks that they have, the buttons they have access to, from a remote location. Use a non-MS browser, you lose that functionality, save for some creative scripting, locking of files, etc. I know most see the ultimate goal of a linux desktop with a mozilla/firebird/take your pick now/ web solution. But for the meantime, making this browser friendly to a MS managed solution would go a long way to making open-source a solution for a large instiution. If I were in charge of such a place, I would probrobly mandate its use just because of the time saved cleaning up crap that users get using IE. But convicing others takes stuff like that. P
-- My dog can beat up your dog.
If it randomized the broswer ID in the referrer as well. Unfortunately, I just checked, and it doesn't.
who are those slashdot people? they swept over like Mongol-Tartars.
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The only company that could claim trademark infringement would be Microsoft and what would they say?
Microsoft Lawyer (with Adam Sandler cajun accent):
Judge, we protest in the strongest terms the name chosen by the open source browser formerly known as Phoenix. It is common knowledge that only our browser has the security "features" that can be popularly described as to 'blow up in one's face'. If this hijacking of our intellectual naming property is allowed to continue then the public might wrongly construe that this open source contender gives the same end user experience as our fined product. But only microsoft's browser contains genuine microsoft exploitations such as the worms and the viruses and things that make you go slooooowwwww. We ask you to declare an injunction under the "Truth in Advertising Law" that only Microsoft can use the word 'explode' in its tradenames. Thank you and good day to you sir.
I 3 Mozilla Moonpig!
Colin Dean Go a year without DRM
Yeah, I was thinking of using this plugin to rename Mozilla to something like Mosaic 0.93b
I bet few folks these days would get it but other old fogies like me would probably appreciate the tip o' the hat...
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I'm going to use Firehose, from now on....
This is a clear step forward in terms of usability.
In the same spirit, I hope they soon release the extension that re-downloads the source, changes all the variable names to different conventions and recompiles:
i counters to j, j to i, lowercase to camelCase, camelCase to CamelCaseAsInC#, UPPERCASE to _underscored... the possibilities are endeless!.
Freedom is the freedom to say 2+2=4, everything else follows...
If i go this route, I'll call it firestarter so I can log on to Prodigy and smack my bitchx up on IRC.
I can finally use the phoenix browser again, it's still my favorite name for the software.
True genius is grasping a situation like a peice of fruit, and peircing it just right so that it drains dry.
I've been reading that many dislike the name firefox. I for one was rather impressed with their selection. Anyone who has some experience with ceramics will have already heard the name, and I personally think the icon looks pretty sharp :-).
what am i talking about? this..
The war with islam is a war on the beast
The war on terror is a war for peace
Or maybe I'll just set it to run as Mozilla RevolverOcelot all the time.
Would you have to press the O key about fifteen times a second to get pop-ups to go away without crashing your browser? It can tell if you're using auto-repeat.
it will generate random names like "LightningCow" or "PowerBadger".
PowerBadger? What about MushroomMushroom?
Pronounced: firedashes
...This is just stupid. Who cares? I think Firefox is a fine name, and the logo looks cool. I mean, what's wrong with a fox? It makes just as much sense as a bird. Foxes are supposed to be swift and clever, right? So what's eveyone bitching about? Get over yourselves.
I'm just changing mine to Gojira and being done with it. Though, for added amusement:
Firefox is the stupidest browser name ever. In close second is Opera.
I'd imagine the name change conversation probably went something like... this...
Mozilla dev team: Designer, what can you draw well?
Designer: Well I'm pretty good at drawing foxes
Designer: Sadly, I can draw nothing else. You know this because all the other logos I came up with sucked and were unattractive.
Mozilla dev team: hmm... Fire... fox? Firefox! BRILLIANT! Make it so! Designer, can you draw a Fox with... fire involved somehow? It has to be red-ish and ill-pleasing to the eyes. And we only want 24 bit PNGs sent to us because we're open source zealot nazifags. Oh, and while you're at it, make the font on the website four points larger, Danke.
Designer: Sehr gut, mein Fuhrer!
In fact, the name is so stupid that some awesome person developed this plug-in to change it.
See you space cowboy...
Editing the Windows registry allows you to change the name in the title bar of Internet Explorer.
n et Explorer\Main
Mine currently says "Internet Exploder".
How?
I'm glad you asked, here's how:
Look for Window Title under
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Inter
If Window Title doesn't exist there, create it as a new String Value, edit the value with whatever name you want, restart your IE and enjoy the new name.
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Am I the only one that thinks this is the most useless extension ever? Who cares what the browser is called, that doesn't actually change anything. They could call it a 32-byte string of random characters for all I care, if it does as good a job at browsing, I'm happy.
So it still has a ways to go
free speach
Did you mean: free speech
one that allows you to select you the User Agent string to misrepresent yourself as Explorer or an older version of Mozilla. That could be handy at times.
I would like to take this opportunity to show my admiration of Mozilla Firefox. It is so much better than Internet Explorer:faster, better gui, safer, nicer rendering, better features, nicer configuration!
Open source software starts to show its benefits. Next step: the desktop and Office suit.
Considering that the Mozilla org is being quite stingy with the Firefox trademark -- you're not supposed to use the icons or name except for the "official" builds -- this is actually really useful.
It's come up as an issue with the Debian package for Firefox.
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So you'd better look for a "really-good" FAQ. :)
Couldn't resist
I hadn't the slightest objection to his spending his time planning massacres for the bourgeoisie... (P.G. Wodehouse)
Who needs this? A waste of resources if you ask me (aside from the clever "Internet Explorer" refs above.
What I need is a plugin that eliminates that annoying "All downloads completed" alerter. God I hate that thing.
If there is already one out there, please enlighten this ignorant soul. If not, stop wasting your time writing name-changing plugins and do something useful.
Good point. NB, recently a parallel/distributed mode was added to urpmi that lets you push upgrades out to clients using ssh.
Doesn't this seem like something that should be on freshmeat. Is slashdot going to start reporting on every Mozilla (or Firefox) extension ever written, now?
It'd be funny to browse the logs if it did, but I'd hope that most people wouldn't do that as habit. It would pollute the statistics for website developers that describe how many people are using Mozilla/whatever, possibly making it appear less popular than it actually is -- at least to the less-educated.
If a simple count shows 85% IE and 12% Mozilla, it's much more likely that more emphasis will be placed on Mozilla support than if it showed 85% IE and 15% unidentifiable... in which case it's probably more likely for a typical admin to simply support IE and request that anyone who cares switches to it.
In either case, a good developer would hopefully at least code to standards wherever possible, but not all developers are perfect and depending on the application it's not always possible to do something using available published standards.
At least my daughter was easier to set up.
Yeah, the initial set up is quite easy (especially if you are not the female). But just wait for your daughter to become a teenager.
Ah yes, the dreaded "Total Cost of Ownership" strikes again.
Freedom: "I won't!"
Too... "kawaii"... the goggles they do nothing!
Freedom: "I won't!"
Or it could be shortened to "OpenBrowser"
However, the Mozilla people probably want to brand it, so perhaps it should simply be:
"MozillaBrowser"
refer to subject.
(although it's likely still better than the morons who think Q7 offsuit is worth calling a raise with)
Thats a pretty blanket statement. I can think of a number of situations off-hand where calling a raise with Q7 offsuit would be a smart play.
Perl - $Just @when->$you ${thought} s/yn/tax/ &couldn\'t %get $worse;
Wow you can change the name, whats so important about this "feature" sure you can go into the source code and change a few strings but why waste time and change the name? Its not going to be a different browser because you changed the name.......
Crashoverride025
Surf the faster and more efficiently with 4
Gotta love it. Someone didn't take his happy pills today.
Un-news
who's yo daddy
I only discovered this recently so i'm not sure how far back it goes (Im running KDE3.2)
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many Kde applications can be started to display a different name. For example, if you were feeling particularly sadistic you could run konqueror like this
%> konqueror --caption "Internet Explorer"
although something like
%> juk --caption "iTunes"
is probably more palatable
nick
Electronic Music Made Using Linux http://soundcloud.com/polyp
Honestly, I have never noticed Firefox or Mozilla to be faster than IE. Ignoring the fact that IE's DLLs are loaded into memory on startup to begin with, Mozilla and Firefox, because they implement all their own native widgets for no good reason, hog huge amounts of memory for me. Loading them up takes forever, opening and closing tabs sucks up resources, and worst of all, just opening menus and moving around in them is slow and laggy because they're not native.
As a native Windows application tied into the system, IE already has a distinct speed advantage. To pretend Mozilla and Firefox are somehow faster is something I've never been able to do.
There are a number of sources that have all the windows patches available as a complete download. Much better than fiddling around on windows update.
Like this. [autopatcher.com]
Autopatcher will install all updates in one go. Will also install java, tweakui and other usefull stuff. Also makes frequent reinstall easier.
...that we don't really know what Mozilla's plans are about Firefox? I remember how Firefox was supposed to be integrated into the suite around, oh, 1.5 or so...that time passed and you haven't heard a peep about any changes. We're up to Mozilla beta 1.7 now. Are Firefox and Mozilla EVER going to integrate all their efforts into Firefox, or will we keep doing this every Slashdot article, where someone asks when they're going to integrate and someone else answers that they don't really know?
Reminds me of that "Barriers to Open Source" article posted recently, which listed "lack of a roadmap" as one of the negatives...
It appears that it no longer exists.
In Soviet Russia, the browser picks YOUR name.
SIG: TAKE OFF EVERY 'CAPTAIN'!!
Microsoft didn't invent the Web, therefore it doesn't belong to them. If they want to pee in our pool they'd better prepare to suffer the concequinces.
P.S. When I see them doing actual good for the Web (including security/stability) I'll gladly retract that statement.
CAn'T CompreHend SARcaSm?
How Many Slashdot Members Does It Take to Change A Light Bulb?
... another 6 to condemn those 6 as stupid
1 to change the light bulb and to post that the light bulb has been changed
14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the light bulb could have been changed differently
7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs
1 to move it to the Lighting section
2 to argue then move it to the Electricals section
7 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing light bulbs
5 to flame the spell checkers
3 to correct spelling/grammar flames
6 to argue over whether it's "lightbulb" or "light bulb"
2 industry professionals to inform the group that the proper term is "lamp"
15 know-it-alls who claim they were in the industry, and that "light bulb" is perfectly correct
19 to post that this topic is not about light bulbs and to please take this discussion to a lightbulb topic
11 to defend the posting to this topic saying that we all use light bulbs and therefore the posts are relevant to this topic
36 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior, where to buy the best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work best for this technique and what brands are faulty
7 to post URL's where one can see examples of different light bulbs
4 to post that the URL's were posted incorrectly and then post the corrected URL's
3 to post about links they found from the URL's that are relevant to this group which makes light bulbs relevant to this group
13 to link all posts to date, quote them in their entirety including all headers and signatures, and add "Me too"
5 to post to the group that they will no longer post because they cannot handle the light bulb controversy
4 to say "didn't we go through this already a short time ago?"
13 to say "do a Google search on light bulbs before posting questions about light bulbs"
1 slashdot lurker to respond to the original post 6 months from now and start it all over again
Where's the "ja" come from?
From half of the "i" plus the "re". In IPA and SAMPA phonetic transcriptions, in Esperanto orthography, and in the orthographies of most Germanic languages other than English, the letter "j" stands for the sound of the English consonant "y" as in "you" or "yard". The sound of "a" plus the sound of Germanic "j" equals what English speakers call the "long I"; FAH yuh is in fact the same thing as FY uh, being the non-rhotic pronunciation of English "fire".
Where's the "r"?
Foreigners may find complicated English words easier to pronounce in a non-rhotic dialect.
most online poker sites are. Some have a java applet.
You're right in that I don't think it would be possible in a web browser.
DO NOT DISTURB THE SE
If I remember right, Firefox was the beta codename of FoxBase 2.10 which is now FoxPro and owned by Microsoft.
No matter what name they choose it has problems. Why not simply call it MISNOMER. :-)
- Disable the @#$@#% popdown menu that appears when I start typing URLs. I know most people like completion menus; I don't. You can't even turn this off in about:config in Firefox.
- Map control-Q to File:Quit. Simple, huh? I don't know why this doesn't work by defaults. Obviously the developers feel that their application is too useful to ever be quit
;).
- Disable all the "security" restrictions on ports. I have a RAID controller daemon running on localhost:1080. Neither Mozilla nor Firefox will let me connect to it for "security reasons". I know it's possible to open individual ports (by mucking around with javascript commands), but AFAIK there's no way to turn off this silly mechanism entirely.
BTW, the flashblock extension is awesome, even though it hasn't been working on every page for me.>If I acutally wanted to USE this bot, it would be pretty trivial to hack it's resources to change the titlebar
No hacking required. WM_SETTEXT. Jeez.
Sounds familiar.
If all this should have a reason, we would be the last to know.
How is this a -1 Troll? The person claimed there was absolutely no reason for major websites to work on one browser. My point was that the browser they're designed for owns the majority of the net.
I wasn't trolling, merely stating a reason.
you are a dumb shit that says dumb things. FOAD fag. STFU fag.
Sir Gates, huh? I did not know that. This sets the stage for future conflicts:
Now, the OSS Rebels must use The Source to defeat the evil Knight Commander of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire Gates... [deep breath] and his Microsoft Minion.
They must smash the Windows of the Death Suite aka Office!
I don't care if I'm not the first person to come up with any of this. This is the first time I'm hearing it, so I am mildly proud of myself. Too bad it's buried this deep in the comments.
The EU announced it had completed its investigations into MS's criminal activity on the same day as the UK government announced the knighthood.
I am not joking. I went on BBC Technology News and among the latest headlines were two something like this:
- EU completes investigations into Microsoft's "criminal business practices"
- Government announces that Microsft Founder is to be awarded a knghthood for his "innovative business practices"
The wording was somethnig like that with the quoted words taken from the EU and UK gov. press releases too.JOINED-UP GOVERNMENT ;-)
Joe Llywelyn Griffith Blakesley
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"Reviled did I live", I said, "as evil I did deliver."
Revered now, I live on. "O, did I do no evil", I wonder, "ever?"
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make install -not war