Wrong. Most people started using MSIE, and still use it, for the simple fact that it is installed as the default web browser on all recent versions of MS Windows -- and Netscape is not.
That's why MSIE is king, and for no other reason. We geeks have virtually no effect on what other people use on thier computers. It's sad, but it's true. People use what is presented to them nearly all the time, and nothing else, no matter how superior the alternative, or how trivial it's implementation. MSIE will continue to dominate the browser market until one of two things happen: major computer manufacturers offer an alternative browser by default, or MS Windows loses it's market dominance.
No amount of whining, wishful thinking, or even legitimate effort will change that.
Re:Oh for fuck's sake.. [READ THIS SUBMITTER]
on
Browser Wars Mark II
·
· Score: 1
IE, by the way, is massively more sophisticated than firebird from a developer's perspective. I can embed IE inside of a windows program transparently. This provides a great many USEFUL features that mozilla can't even dream of as yet.
It also provides a great many DANGEROUS features that Mozilla won't even contemplate. My biggest beef with IE, aside from it's deplorable standards support, is that it allows downloaded code to run automatically in the OS with the full rights of the current user. Mozilla and every other browser I'm aware of at least requires the user to manually start the program in question.
And by the way, you can also embed Gecko into Windows applications. You have to use XUL technology to do so, instead of traditional C++ programming with widgets, but it is certainly possible and has been done many times. XUL is a very powerful framework and is now being copied (loosely, I'm sure) by Microsoft itself.
In the early days of the web, a web browser and a file manager were two very different things. This was actually a considered design decision. They did it that way because they understood that some people will release malicious code on the interenet and if the browser could execute remote code automatically, the chances of security violations would be dramatically greater. This is why Mozilla browsers to this day will not run downloaded executables without your explicit permission. It's also why there is no official port of ActiveX-like plugins. While there are third-party plugins that do that, they are not officially sanctioned.
Internet Explorer, as a consequence of it's also being a file manager, must be able to run executables locally. While there are attractive reasons for a web browser to be able to do so (richer content), there are more important reasons not to. I think Konqueror and Galeon risk making some of the same mistakes that IE has made.
Personally, I recommend not using any file manager as a general web browser, their capability to run executables is simply too much of a danger while surfing the web. Never use one on untrusted sites.
The problem is that very few people are competent coders and designers. Dreamweaver is for designers. Code editors are for, well, coders. Many development shops will have designers who use WYSIWYG tools to create a design which is then passed to the coders who will actually make it work.
There's not a thing wrong with that. The right tool for the right job and all that jazz.
The flash player is offered at no cost to the public to allow Macromedia to sell it's flash authoring tool. That's where they make their money. Releasing the flash player source would allow other companies to create flash authoring tools that could compete with Macromedia, something they obviously would not want.
Well, perhaps I'm a little dense, but isn't Linux Linux, no matter what flavor you use? It seems to me that the only thing that should matter is the kernel version.
Yes, but the Linux tide is rising. That means that more people are going to be clamoring for Linux pre-installed on their new computers. When the noise level gets high enough, the major computer manufacturers will listen. I think that could happen as early as late summer, or perhaps early next year.
Some of these manufacturers have exclusive contracts with Microsoft, however, so it will be interesting to see how that plays out.
Well, with the aid of tips from some other posters here, I was able to find a card that seems like it will work.
Specifically, the Cisco Aironet 350 series cards have native linux drivers available directly from Cisco's site. The card is a little pricey ($130 - $200), but probably worth it and is probably what I'll get. Now, if I could just find a local retailer I'd be happy. Probably though, I'll need to order it from the internet.
So, any links? I've been trying to find one for months. Not that they're not out there, just that I can't find one. I can say that the crap at Best Buy does not work.
Re:Nice, but about those 802.11a/b/g cards...
on
Open Source Hotspots
·
· Score: 1
Well, this has certainly been a sticking point for me. I have a linksys card and d-link card, and I can't get either of them to work correctly in my laptop. The linksys card will only work if I configure the thing *before* I insert it for the first time, and then only for those exact settings. For some reason, I can't change settings on the fly. If I go to a different hotspot, I have to totally uninstall everything and re-install with new settings. Yeah, there's probably a better way, but I'll be damned if I can figure it out.
The d-link card simply refuses to run. It doesn't even power on. Works fine in Windows though.
Is there anybody that can provide me with a link to a seller that stocks a card that absolutely *does* work with Linux -- with a native driver that can access all the settings? I've been trying for a couple months, but I'm afraid to plunk down another eighty bucks or more for a card that I can't tell ahead of time whether it's going to work or not.
How the hell am I supposed to upload files to my web server with bittorrent? Don't get me wrong, bittorrent is great software: I use it and I love it, but it is not and can never be FTP.
And BTW, Mozilla uses btdownloadgui.py just fine. I would welcome further integration, but really, there's no need.
Very insightful, and of course, completely correct. However, I find my Mozilla Mail filters do a good enough job. Not perfect, no, but good enough. BTW, I also get something like 200 emails per day, and only one or two legitimate ones.
It's not the ideal solution, but does provide a stop-gap for the present.
Um, isn't it the pollen that blows across fields and not the seeds? It seems to me that one field could easily pollinate another adjacent field, in it's entirety, resulting in large cross-pollenization. So yes, he could easily have had that much contaminated product without realizing it. So, it's not so obvious that Schmeiser is lying.
I don't know about Canada, but here in southern Texas, the pollen gets so thick that cars are literally covered in it during the spring -- to the point that they turn yellow from it.
I'll leave off remarks on the ad-hominem attack as I've never met Schmeiser or any of his peers.
True, but then I've never owned a VCR either. It's true. I've lived in places where one was available, but never owned one of my own. I now own a DVD player, but I almost never use it and would not miss it if it were stolen today.
I've been using Mandrake since version 8.2... consistantly. I had never used Linux before (except for an aborted RH6.0 install), nor had I had any other *NIX experience -- strictly Windows and Macs (a long, long time ago). That said, I found Mandrake reasonably easy to install.
One of the cool things about Mandrake is that they don't hide anything from you. Even though there is a GUI application for almost everything, you don't *have* to use them. The command-line is just a click away, and it's just as powerful as CLIs from any other distro. I found learning about Linux from Mandrake to be a great way to go.
The new Mandrake is the best ever (duh!) -- I strongly recommend it. If you want to spend a few bucks, join the Mandrake Club and take advantage of proprietary software and drivers that are not included on the public ISOs.
No, it's not a competition, but I might point out that journalists here can criticize the government without fear of reprisals, unlike in some recent events in the UK.
Free speech is an enumerated right in the U.S. and may not be abridged (in theory, McCarthyism not-with-standing). There is no such fundamental right in the U.K as far as I'm aware. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
There are other rights guaranteed in our Constitution that do not appear in similar legal documents in the U.K. Although rights are guaranteed and not granted, since they are considered inherent to all people, there still must be official recognition of them if they are to be protected.
Oddly enough, did you know that one of the most common failures in VCRs are due to peanut butter and jelly sandwiches? I shit you not. A guy down at the local electronics shop told me that.
Slashdot Mirror
Torvolds wrote Linux so that he, and everybody else, could have an affordable Unix like operating system they could actually use.
Tannenbaum wrote Minix so that his students (and Apprentice-Hall customers) could have an affordable Unix like operating system they could learn from.
Big difference.
Wrong. Most people started using MSIE, and still use it, for the simple fact that it is installed as the default web browser on all recent versions of MS Windows -- and Netscape is not.
That's why MSIE is king, and for no other reason. We geeks have virtually no effect on what other people use on thier computers. It's sad, but it's true. People use what is presented to them nearly all the time, and nothing else, no matter how superior the alternative, or how trivial it's implementation. MSIE will continue to dominate the browser market until one of two things happen: major computer manufacturers offer an alternative browser by default, or MS Windows loses it's market dominance.
No amount of whining, wishful thinking, or even legitimate effort will change that.
IE, by the way, is massively more sophisticated than firebird from a developer's perspective. I can embed IE inside of a windows program transparently. This provides a great many USEFUL features that mozilla can't even dream of as yet.
It also provides a great many DANGEROUS features that Mozilla won't even contemplate. My biggest beef with IE, aside from it's deplorable standards support, is that it allows downloaded code to run automatically in the OS with the full rights of the current user. Mozilla and every other browser I'm aware of at least requires the user to manually start the program in question.
And by the way, you can also embed Gecko into Windows applications. You have to use XUL technology to do so, instead of traditional C++ programming with widgets, but it is certainly possible and has been done many times. XUL is a very powerful framework and is now being copied (loosely, I'm sure) by Microsoft itself.
Can't you hear it? It's the sound of all the accolades rolling in for such a stunning piece of journalistic prowess.
In the early days of the web, a web browser and a file manager were two very different things. This was actually a considered design decision. They did it that way because they understood that some people will release malicious code on the interenet and if the browser could execute remote code automatically, the chances of security violations would be dramatically greater. This is why Mozilla browsers to this day will not run downloaded executables without your explicit permission. It's also why there is no official port of ActiveX-like plugins. While there are third-party plugins that do that, they are not officially sanctioned.
Internet Explorer, as a consequence of it's also being a file manager, must be able to run executables locally. While there are attractive reasons for a web browser to be able to do so (richer content), there are more important reasons not to. I think Konqueror and Galeon risk making some of the same mistakes that IE has made.
Personally, I recommend not using any file manager as a general web browser, their capability to run executables is simply too much of a danger while surfing the web. Never use one on untrusted sites.
The problem is that very few people are competent coders and designers. Dreamweaver is for designers. Code editors are for, well, coders. Many development shops will have designers who use WYSIWYG tools to create a design which is then passed to the coders who will actually make it work.
There's not a thing wrong with that. The right tool for the right job and all that jazz.
The flash player is offered at no cost to the public to allow Macromedia to sell it's flash authoring tool. That's where they make their money. Releasing the flash player source would allow other companies to create flash authoring tools that could compete with Macromedia, something they obviously would not want.
I wish that view were correct, but DRM is about the rights of the producer, not those of the consumer.
Well, perhaps I'm a little dense, but isn't Linux Linux, no matter what flavor you use? It seems to me that the only thing that should matter is the kernel version.
What is it about Oracle that makes that not true?
Yes, but the Linux tide is rising. That means that more people are going to be clamoring for Linux pre-installed on their new computers. When the noise level gets high enough, the major computer manufacturers will listen. I think that could happen as early as late summer, or perhaps early next year.
Some of these manufacturers have exclusive contracts with Microsoft, however, so it will be interesting to see how that plays out.
Well, with the aid of tips from some other posters here, I was able to find a card that seems like it will work.
Specifically, the Cisco Aironet 350 series cards have native linux drivers available directly from Cisco's site. The card is a little pricey ($130 - $200), but probably worth it and is probably what I'll get. Now, if I could just find a local retailer I'd be happy. Probably though, I'll need to order it from the internet.
So, any links? I've been trying to find one for months. Not that they're not out there, just that I can't find one. I can say that the crap at Best Buy does not work.
Well, this has certainly been a sticking point for me. I have a linksys card and d-link card, and I can't get either of them to work correctly in my laptop. The linksys card will only work if I configure the thing *before* I insert it for the first time, and then only for those exact settings. For some reason, I can't change settings on the fly. If I go to a different hotspot, I have to totally uninstall everything and re-install with new settings. Yeah, there's probably a better way, but I'll be damned if I can figure it out.
The d-link card simply refuses to run. It doesn't even power on. Works fine in Windows though.
Is there anybody that can provide me with a link to a seller that stocks a card that absolutely *does* work with Linux -- with a native driver that can access all the settings? I've been trying for a couple months, but I'm afraid to plunk down another eighty bucks or more for a card that I can't tell ahead of time whether it's going to work or not.
Um...
How the hell am I supposed to upload files to my web server with bittorrent? Don't get me wrong, bittorrent is great software: I use it and I love it, but it is not and can never be FTP.
And BTW, Mozilla uses btdownloadgui.py just fine. I would welcome further integration, but really, there's no need.
And boy howdy! What could possibly beat the zen-like process of updating hundreds of files by hand to change one menu item?
Obviously fsck does not mean what you think it means.
Very insightful, and of course, completely correct. However, I find my Mozilla Mail filters do a good enough job. Not perfect, no, but good enough. BTW, I also get something like 200 emails per day, and only one or two legitimate ones.
It's not the ideal solution, but does provide a stop-gap for the present.
Was it Nixon who started the first "war on drugs"? How's that going?
It's going swimmingly. The government just can't keep up. Now, if we could get them to release our compatriots from their illegal slave farms....
Um, isn't it the pollen that blows across fields and not the seeds? It seems to me that one field could easily pollinate another adjacent field, in it's entirety, resulting in large cross-pollenization. So yes, he could easily have had that much contaminated product without realizing it. So, it's not so obvious that Schmeiser is lying.
I don't know about Canada, but here in southern Texas, the pollen gets so thick that cars are literally covered in it during the spring -- to the point that they turn yellow from it.
I'll leave off remarks on the ad-hominem attack as I've never met Schmeiser or any of his peers.
Fsck that. I say plant your resistant dandelions on their lawn.
True, but then I've never owned a VCR either. It's true. I've lived in places where one was available, but never owned one of my own. I now own a DVD player, but I almost never use it and would not miss it if it were stolen today.
I've been using Mandrake since version 8.2... consistantly. I had never used Linux before (except for an aborted RH6.0 install), nor had I had any other *NIX experience -- strictly Windows and Macs (a long, long time ago). That said, I found Mandrake reasonably easy to install.
One of the cool things about Mandrake is that they don't hide anything from you. Even though there is a GUI application for almost everything, you don't *have* to use them. The command-line is just a click away, and it's just as powerful as CLIs from any other distro. I found learning about Linux from Mandrake to be a great way to go.
The new Mandrake is the best ever (duh!) -- I strongly recommend it. If you want to spend a few bucks, join the Mandrake Club and take advantage of proprietary software and drivers that are not included on the public ISOs.
after all, if you're paranoid, you must be doing something illegal.
Prove it.
Oh wait, we live in the Unified State of Ashcroft, you don't have to.
Now, if you'll excuse me while I answer the door...
No, it's not a competition, but I might point out that journalists here can criticize the government without fear of reprisals, unlike in some recent events in the UK.
Free speech is an enumerated right in the U.S. and may not be abridged (in theory, McCarthyism not-with-standing). There is no such fundamental right in the U.K as far as I'm aware. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
There are other rights guaranteed in our Constitution that do not appear in similar legal documents in the U.K. Although rights are guaranteed and not granted, since they are considered inherent to all people, there still must be official recognition of them if they are to be protected.
Oddly enough, did you know that one of the most common failures in VCRs are due to peanut butter and jelly sandwiches? I shit you not. A guy down at the local electronics shop told me that.