All those extra resources being consumed, all that extra carbon being released to the atmosphere. Of course you've got to weigh the benefits to society against the environmental cost, or buy renewableenergy.
Sorry, my mistake. I'm normally quite the Mac evangelist. However, surely the nodes will have a great deal of stuff removed from OSX, no need for the GUI and a lot of other gubbins.
This is yet another article with the misconception that the VATech cluster is running OSX, it's not, its running a bare bones custom linux, I believe. It would be foolish to do otherwise. There's load is in OS X which is just unnecessary bloat for this kind of system. It may be administered from OSX and I'm sure xGrid will be, but even with xGrid Apple will more than likely strip the OS in the cluster nodes back to the Open BSD skeleton.
It's a great piece of news though although the figure may not be comperable. Could the 38 million be for a long term installation and maintenance contract. It still seems a lot even when taking into account the fact that the VATech cluster has been largely installed buy volunteer students (well they did the heavy lifting at least). The Dell still looks to be very pricey nonetheless.
I look forward to the performance scores with anticipation.
I'm happy with it so far, although obviously it would be great not only fully Aqua compliant but with a full OSX look, feel and human interface. Open source software always falls down at the human interface hurdle. One thing that can be said for office v.X is that the interface is not only very good but the first office since 5.1 to have a truly Mac OS Human interface. Open source projects need to have teams dreaming up pleasant, simple, clear interfaces that are compliant with the expectations of the users of the various platforms that the software will end up on.
OSViews does not have the highedt availability at the best of times. No wonder it collapsed under the slashdot onslaught. No matter, the article was not terribly informative. It would have been nothing at all if he had not had one or two problems.
It took the combined might of a European directive and Oftel to get to this stage. It does work well though now we have this facility. The US really needs to move to non geographical numbers though to allow true portability and to differentiate mobile numbers from land lines (so you don't get a shock on the bill, I presume calls to US mobile cost more than those to landlines, all UK mobiles begin 07 landline are 01 and 02, 08 for non geographical landlines and 09 for premium numbers ).
Also the US really needs to stop charging for incoming calls which is just bizarre.
Agreed, this would be the number one legitimate use of p2p if it was done. I'm sure it would not be too difficult to engineer. A couple of architectures spring to mind without much trying.
it's possibly the only solution. The problem with a privately owned power grid is that there is no competition. You can't have competing parallel networks of power lines that would be madness. Markets only work where there is competition. There is nothing for the grid to compete against.
To take a counter example. Where there is a free market for power generation there is pressure on the generators to produce cheaper power so this leads to greater efficiency (although not necessarily the most socially responsible methods). The grid however has no incentive to make efficiency gains as they have a monopoly and the best way to make money from a monopoly is to do the minimum necessary to keep things going and the money rolls in.
So you either have to have state ownership or heavy state regulation (or we could throw in workers control but that's a side issue) and I'd much rather that monopolies were run for the benefit of the people, either not for profit or to subsidise other public services.
The grid is essentially a public service and ought to be run as such, it allows people and organisations to buy power from the various generators. It's far too important to everyone to be run for private gain.
A Reise and Muller Birdy. Better than a Brompton, which suffer from over soft suspension and a a floating back wheel. They have all aluminum frames and the lightest comes in at around 10kg. The gearing is excellent, much better than the 'sturmey archers' on the Bromptons. They are of course far more expensive but they are the best folders I've ridden.
You could also try the US made Bikefriday who even do this incredibly expensive folding recumbant. I've not ridden them so I can't vouch for them.
I've had three of these, they've all burnt out where the cable enters the plug at the computer end of things. The next time one blows I plan to get a 3rd party PSU, perhaps an iGo juice.
Well yes, but it allows people to transfer system relatively painlessly, should Y become accepted. Apple have been masters at this in the commercial sphere, having moved their user base first onto RISC and then from a proprietary OS to a less proprietary *nix based system every time providing a way to keep old ways of doing things unbroken. The Free Software community could learn a thing or to.
An admirable effort, X Windows for all its merits and for all the work that has gone into it is still a bit of a pig although i see the human interface issues as more pressing than the architectural ones. I wish the Y guy all the best of luck with his project and ask him not to forget about putting good human interface at the core of his thinking.
This decision will hopefully manoeuvre SCO into the courtroom (or into shutting up) and finally being forced to tell people what IP has been infringed, if any.
And if not why not. I've heard a lot of people say that there ought to be such a project but never heard of such a project. If I could code I'd start one. This is something far too important to be left to companies.
Can we not make Orwell a synonym of Ashcroft please. Orwell was a great socialist and campaigner aginst the sorts of regimes that John Ashcroft seems to advocate.
How much energy do these things take to make. If you ever ask a solar panel manufacturer for a Life Cycle analysis of energy they go very quiet. Most solar panels cannot produce as much energy over a reasonable amount of time as the amount of energy that went into producing them. To be fair technology has been getting closer and closer to the 'ignition' point (to steal from the fusion people), and of course this varies depending on whether you are in Arizona or Aberdeen. Until then solar panels have their uses but they will be not be paying their way as far as generating new sources of energy until the energy it take to manufacture them is brought down.
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All those extra resources being consumed, all that extra carbon being released to the atmosphere. Of course you've got to weigh the benefits to society against the environmental cost, or buy renewable energy.
Sorry, my mistake. I'm normally quite the Mac evangelist. However, surely the nodes will have a great deal of stuff removed from OSX, no need for the GUI and a lot of other gubbins.
This is yet another article with the misconception that the VATech cluster is running OSX, it's not, its running a bare bones custom linux, I believe. It would be foolish to do otherwise. There's load is in OS X which is just unnecessary bloat for this kind of system. It may be administered from OSX and I'm sure xGrid will be, but even with xGrid Apple will more than likely strip the OS in the cluster nodes back to the Open BSD skeleton.
It's a great piece of news though although the figure may not be comperable. Could the 38 million be for a long term installation and maintenance contract. It still seems a lot even when taking into account the fact that the VATech cluster has been largely installed buy volunteer students (well they did the heavy lifting at least). The Dell still looks to be very pricey nonetheless.
I look forward to the performance scores with anticipation.
I'm happy with it so far, although obviously it would be great not only fully Aqua compliant but with a full OSX look, feel and human interface. Open source software always falls down at the human interface hurdle. One thing that can be said for office v.X is that the interface is not only very good but the first office since 5.1 to have a truly Mac OS Human interface. Open source projects need to have teams dreaming up pleasant, simple, clear interfaces that are compliant with the expectations of the users of the various platforms that the software will end up on.
OSViews does not have the highedt availability at the best of times. No wonder it collapsed under the slashdot onslaught. No matter, the article was not terribly informative. It would have been nothing at all if he had not had one or two problems.
It took the combined might of a European directive and Oftel to get to this stage. It does work well though now we have this facility. The US really needs to move to non geographical numbers though to allow true portability and to differentiate mobile numbers from land lines (so you don't get a shock on the bill, I presume calls to US mobile cost more than those to landlines, all UK mobiles begin 07 landline are 01 and 02, 08 for non geographical landlines and 09 for premium numbers ).
Also the US really needs to stop charging for incoming calls which is just bizarre.
Agreed, this would be the number one legitimate use of p2p if it was done. I'm sure it would not be too difficult to engineer. A couple of architectures spring to mind without much trying.
it's possibly the only solution. The problem with a privately owned power grid is that there is no competition. You can't have competing parallel networks of power lines that would be madness. Markets only work where there is competition. There is nothing for the grid to compete against.
To take a counter example. Where there is a free market for power generation there is pressure on the generators to produce cheaper power so this leads to greater efficiency (although not necessarily the most socially responsible methods). The grid however has no incentive to make efficiency gains as they have a monopoly and the best way to make money from a monopoly is to do the minimum necessary to keep things going and the money rolls in.
So you either have to have state ownership or heavy state regulation (or we could throw in workers control but that's a side issue) and I'd much rather that monopolies were run for the benefit of the people, either not for profit or to subsidise other public services.
The grid is essentially a public service and ought to be run as such, it allows people and organisations to buy power from the various generators. It's far too important to everyone to be run for private gain.
A Reise and Muller Birdy. Better than a Brompton, which suffer from over soft suspension and a a floating back wheel. They have all aluminum frames and the lightest comes in at around 10kg. The gearing is excellent, much better than the 'sturmey archers' on the Bromptons. They are of course far more expensive but they are the best folders I've ridden. You could also try the US made Bikefriday who even do this incredibly expensive folding recumbant. I've not ridden them so I can't vouch for them.
I've had three of these, they've all burnt out where the cable enters the plug at the computer end of things. The next time one blows I plan to get a 3rd party PSU, perhaps an iGo juice.
it's what I have
I completely agree with this.
And that's just in English.
Well yes, but it allows people to transfer system relatively painlessly, should Y become accepted. Apple have been masters at this in the commercial sphere, having moved their user base first onto RISC and then from a proprietary OS to a less proprietary *nix based system every time providing a way to keep old ways of doing things unbroken. The Free Software community could learn a thing or to. An admirable effort, X Windows for all its merits and for all the work that has gone into it is still a bit of a pig although i see the human interface issues as more pressing than the architectural ones. I wish the Y guy all the best of luck with his project and ask him not to forget about putting good human interface at the core of his thinking.
This decision will hopefully manoeuvre SCO into the courtroom (or into shutting up) and finally being forced to tell people what IP has been infringed, if any.
And if not why not. I've heard a lot of people say that there ought to be such a project but never heard of such a project. If I could code I'd start one. This is something far too important to be left to companies.
Can we not make Orwell a synonym of Ashcroft please. Orwell was a great socialist and campaigner aginst the sorts of regimes that John Ashcroft seems to advocate.
How much energy do these things take to make. If you ever ask a solar panel manufacturer for a Life Cycle analysis of energy they go very quiet. Most solar panels cannot produce as much energy over a reasonable amount of time as the amount of energy that went into producing them. To be fair technology has been getting closer and closer to the 'ignition' point (to steal from the fusion people), and of course this varies depending on whether you are in Arizona or Aberdeen. Until then solar panels have their uses but they will be not be paying their way as far as generating new sources of energy until the energy it take to manufacture them is brought down.