Yup, already been over that, an iris airlock covers it nicely. Thats two irises near the top of the tower. One opens to let the ship through, then closes immediately after, the other does the same, but you just evacuate the airlock between launches.
If you are in the mood for unpleasant surprises, try reading the links. That you have to ask what it would be made of means that you shouldn't be contributing to this discussion. Have a nice one.
Transatlantic vac train tunnel, the research has alredy been done. Google it yourself, I'm too damn sunburned right now. And read the links for gods sake. Buildings 1 mile high were 1950s technology.
Right, I have discussed it with people who actually have done the math, and what you think diverges wildly from reality. Sorry about that. Escape velocity is waaaay higher than what you need for GEO orbit. And unless you have some actual facts to back up your hypothesising, I'll file it under "s" for speculation. Or maybe "u" for uninformed speculation. And do read the links like a good man.
I am not sure, myself. However even if it cost ten times more, it would still be less than NASA's 2005 budget. There ain't much you can't do with 15 billion.
My guess is they are trying to cut down on all unneccesary weight, so the mechanisms I mention here would not perhaps be optimal. What would be optimal would be their dipstick. This has the sad drawback of not actually working, so they might have to bite the bullet. On the other hand, maybe some visionary will solve their problems for them at 2% of the budgetary requirements it would otherwise take. Sigh. What about keeping the fuel in a collapsable skin inside its hard shell, and put a pressure gauge bleeding (very thin) air into the area the collapsing skin has left behind. The thinner the air beside the fuel tank, the less fuel you have.
There might be methods whereby you wouldn't need to carry the fuel with you, for example with a space elevator. However, just what advantages would a space elevator offer over a tower launch? (I've used parts of this post before, but I have since refined my ideas). I contacted a man responsible for a similar idea a while back, the skyramp (warning: hideous javascript menu may break firefox), Carlton Meyer, and had a dialogue in which he pointed me to a tower launch archive.
The ideas I see bandied about there are similar to what I had in mind, which would be essentially an 11km tall tower (think pylons rather than skyscrapers, based at sea), with evacuated airless launch tubes, using nuclear reactors to power a maglev or pulley system to accelerate vessels to escape velocity. These would then emerge above the end of the troposphere, with it's associated weather and air pressure, and have little to no fuel needed to match the earth's gravity, meaning you could do a lot more while you were up there. At a reasonable acceleration (5 to 7 g's) you would be in geostationary orbit. From there you could build a fully system wide ship or ships, as its much easier to escape the planet's gravity from GEO than from the surface.
Not only would this enable multiple launches daily, it is, unlike the space elevator, readily achievable with today's technology, and financially viable as well. Given NASA had an annual budget of $16.2 billion for 2005, and a nuclear power plant costs a cool billion to build, give or take, we could have this up and running in a few years.
Sure just design your out-pipes with a gauge, like a speedometer. Measure the speed of fuel coming out and factor in the width of the pipes (and fuel density?). Its then just a case of keeping track of how much fuel you have used. I mean how is this a major problem? You could even build a fit-all for hand held containers with vernier calipers inside to measure pipe width, enter your fuel type and let it keep track for you. Or if you encounter the odd situation of an ungauged fuel tank of some kind, design fuel tanks as a collapsing piston; the level of the fuel could be easily read then by just mechanics. This has the added advantage of pressurising the fuel as well.
Can't sue the US government unless it agrees to be sued. You're all fucked. You can't sue, can't vote them out of office (or Mirror McDemocrat will just be voted in), can't influence your elected officials because of the corruption of lobbying power groups, and you have the foundation for a class based system firmly in place with king george I and II, and possibly jeb I shortly, as well as the senatorial class, already above quite a few laws if I recall correctly. You can't shoot your way to freedom any more, you are outgunned by your own (immensely indoctrinated to obey orders) military.
If you want to see a speeded up version of the inevitable result of the US political system, take a look at the Philippines. Poor bastards tried to emulate the American way of life as much as possible, and now they are struggling deperately to put in a parliamentary system, fighting against their own largely uneducated and ignorant population who are wooed by massive media influence. If I was over there or actively involved in the US in any way, I would be trying to take a page out of the Filipinos' book, and move to a parliamentary system as well. Assuming you don't just get arrested and vanished for speaking out.
Well, the fact is we do have the genes for selfishness and competition too
Um where did you get this idea? The line between nature and nurture is fuzzy and ill-understood at best, at worst non existent. Stating something as fact when it plainly isn't ain't helping your argument.
We are born cooperators, and competition is something that is (mostly) a learned behavior.
Yes, if you mean within our learned boundaries, as in within the boundaries of the tribe or clan, we cooperate. Anyone outside that boundary is fair game. And even that is a learned behaviour.
It seems to me that you were stating basically the opposite, that people are basically pricks and only society makes them behave otherwise.
Nope, I was saying that people are basically self interested, and the conditioning received in school and early education is a required part of a functioning society in order to overcome that instinct.
I would rather recognize a hard truth, such as "people are basically evil" and work from there than hold fast to a comfortable illusion. That being said, in my mind the balance of evidence points towards the "people are basically good" hypothesis.
My position is that people are basically biased towards the self-interest end of the scale, which is neither good nor evil, but it is what it is. Thats the very heart of my point. The results of it may be evil, and sometimes can be good, depending on your definition of these two very fluid terms. As to recognising a hard truth, I am with you 100% on that. By the way, another poster responded to you with a fairly nasty ad-hominem on my position, I'd just like to say that I have nothing but contempt for the likes of people that won't respond to posters directly, but try to force their ponderous bulk in the back door.
The GP of this post doesn't, and probably won't realize how outgunned he is in this discussion, because of how personally identified he is with his ideology about humanity. An admittance of the possibility of error would come with an emotional cost that is too high to bear. He is not unique in this, most people feel personally attacked when their highly held beliefs are called into question.
What? You ignoramus. Now while I understand that you might feel that this qualifies your statement in some way, nonetheless it doesn't detract from the fact that its the truth. Two people having a decent discussion, rare enough around here, and a moron like you makes his knock kneed run for the sun. If you have something to say to me, do join the party. Otherwise keep it closed, like a good lad.
Along those lines and speaking of fraud, I was researching a web promotion group, which promises high page results (and seems to deliver too) and I found the most peculiar thing. Take a look at this.
If you look at the results there, there are hundreds of links from sites like 6246.u2mme6.info, but if you look at the code for these sites, they aren't as such links. The pages don't load in a browser because of an iframe to a non existent site, but if you download the pages via httrack or one of those, you see the a page of bizarre code. An example of that is here (you'll have to look at the page source to see it, I don't know how to show it in slashdot)...
Look I see what you are trying to say here, its that people are basically alright if you give them a chance, and trying to back that up with examples from history and apparently modern day tribes, the irony of which is not lost to me. But listen, what makes you think the same indoctrination process wasn't going on on a tribal level? Anyway I wasn't talking about archaeology, and only mentioned it as an aside. And a small one at that.
Syphilis. How does it feel to know that the "great leader" and chairman was influenced in his actions by a sexually transmitted disease? Wow, an entire culture founded on an STD that drives people mad. That explains a lot.
"The way it is always is the way it should be. Don't work for change."
There are very good reasons for that. People are not naturally team players; the whole of our natures are built around self preservation and self advancement. Left to their own devices, people will fragment into clan structures or individuals, and squabble with other groups over resources (a bit like the 90,000 odd years before Sumeria). The conditioning received in school to stay within the system, get educated, get a good job in a company, is vital to maintaining civilisation and advancing society.
The alternative to that is neither a free thinking commune of the enlightened nor a barbaric anarchy. It is a world where trust doesn't exist, and alliances only hold as long as one side sees an advantage. People always trying to get the better of each other, treachery as the norm. I know that sounds like the way it is today, but that is just evidence that the conditioning received in school is not very effective. Things only get done when people work with each other, and try to help one another, and not always look for the advantage. In any society, the call to cooperate is the mark of a civilised man.
Now the downside to that is the independantly minded chafe at this conditioning, and it causes problems for entrepreneurs and the visionaries among us. But structures exist to accomodate such people, so the problem is mitigated somewhat. If you are talking about widespread societal change, that is immensely difficult to enact, and with good reason, requiring a majority of the population to agree with your proposed changes. A further risk is when the conditioning in school is too good, allowing leaders to run roughshod over the general population. But thats a fine line that every society must learn to tread. Its not pretty, but I am hard pressed to come up with a better system, given human nature is what it is.
whenever anyone experss an opinion you don't like, you dismiss it as bollocks or baseless arguments.
You see, here's your underlying problem, my underendowed asian friend. If you don't want debate, you really shouldn't be posting to slashdot. And when someone offers you superior arguments, you throw a tantrum, which amounts to "YOU SAME TING! YOU SAME TING!". Which merely reinforces my point.
You expressly ignore the very first comment I made on this subject, which talks about the "heavy handed buffoons" they have in charge over there, a fine Chinese tradition going back to chairman mao syphillis-in-ze-dong and earlier. You keep talking about national darksides, and while I can see why that might weigh heavily on your mind, it sadly just isn't applicable to me. No witch burnings, no slave trade, no US big-wang troops.
The only thing you are doing right now is proving me right, without any assistance from me whatsoever. When it comes to being abusive, like you, I can dish it out with the best of them, but frankly this whole discussion has started to loop over and over like a broken record, and I see no point in continuing it further. You have no argument except insult, and the bottom line is, you're starting to bore the shit out of me. So take your tedious insults, your low brow insinuations, and your knuckle dragging tantrums, and stop bringing the name of china into shame. More shame, I mean.
I will say this for China though. Damn fine women. And they appreciate a good big wang, as well.:D
Sadly, the more you talk, the more you expose to everybody about your ignorance.
Thats funny I was just thinking the same...
Let others be the judge.
Yes, you'd like that wouldn't you? Sorry, but we respect the rights of individuals to have free speech around here. Might be an alien concept, but give it a bit of thought, it grows on you.
you could've avoided being such an asshole. Pathetically, all we see here is a self-righteous bigot's refusal of enlightment from others.
Oh enlighten me to the superiority of your ways. From what I see so far from you, you have much to teach in the art of the baseless argument, oh mastah.
they resort to the tragic event at Tiananmen Square, in the hope that demeaning the opponent would give them the moral superiority...waffle...How does slave trade or burning witches sound to you? How about the shooting of civilians by the US troops and local police in Kabul as we saw it in the news yesterday?
This is going to rock your kasbah, sparky, but I'm not American. Don't live there, don't especially want to. So that makes you racist and jumping to far more ill informed conclusions than I ever have. Oh and the square is just one incident of many, and one which I seriously doubt you attended. Besides, whats a rampant racist like me doing learning eight languages? Obviously its to better abuse the natives! Ahhhh I am enlightened.
You can't even distiguish the people from the regime, can you? "Intellectual debater"?...you'd probably be one of those jackbooted thugs...it's very likely you'd be brainwashed by some propaganda machine and turning your gun at the free thinking people.
I'm wondering where you are drawing these conclusions from. My original statement was that the leaders of China are heavy handed buffoons whose tantrums are shameful to their country. How do you pull your ideas from that? Thus far you have been bellowing, cursing, throwing insults about like water, making false assumptions, and in short, throwing a tantrum.
Which merely underlines my original point nicely. I need more foes like you.
Not content with calling me an ignorant asshole in another thread, he splits the thread. Well Cindy Fong, I'm not an American, and I do trust the media in my country to give me an accurate representation, because they have no reason to be biased either way. Lets put it like this, search for "tiananmen square" on google.cn and come burbling to me about media suppression then. Ignorance and arrogance go hand in hand, and the Chinese have a surplus of both, fuelled by propaganda and an incredible degree of brainwashing. Maybe you might want to export some along with the cheap underwear? I mean since advanced chipsets are too complicated to understand, that is, even if you steal the prototypes.
. It's just that your claim that all Chinese treat others like shit makes you an ignorant asshole
See how easy it is to act tough on the internet? Well, big man, why don't you show me a link to where I said that. Show me the link. No? Maybe you might try reading the comments before forming noises from your gaseous extrusions next time. As to the rest of it, its about as well formed as your initial comments.
Hold up your hand in front of your face, palm outwards. At eye level. Just do it. See your wrist? Thats the width of my penis, my little asian friend.:D
Right. If you could just pick one point and then stick to it like a good man, it might help you out a little. I guess the old propaganda school isn't up to much in the arena of intellectual debating, huh?:D I'll do my best to track down the main threads, you can work it out yourself from there.
And now you're pretending the innocent finally? After insulting the Chinese all together in your posts
I call em like I see em, son. I have no need to claim innocence, since I was never guilty in the first place, of whatever crime you seem to be accusing me of. Probably one of your infamous "thought crimes".
I've seen assholes in China and I've seen assholes here.
I wager you have, at that.
you had a wonderful chance to learn and appreciate the greatness of another culture
And how very great it is. Any culture that feels the need to mow down defenceless students in cold blood, invade sovereign nations, lock up the very minds of its own citizens, and then tries to fob off its genocidal lies as the truth, how mighty that nation is. Oh no wait, my mistake, it makes me sick.
I really feel sorry for you.
The feeling is entirely mutual.
If you feel upset about whatever China is doing in changing the world
Ah, China changing the world. You mean Taiwanese and Hong Kongese industrialists and investors pumping capital into the backward mainland changing the world. The last time Chairman Mao "Syphillitic Paedophile" Zedong tried to change anything, how many Chinese died?
Finally, following your logic of accusing 808140, I suspect you work for Intel,
Yes but the jolly part is I am not in China, so you can't have the jackbooted thugs kick down my door.
You read it all right, not your imagination. How you interpret that is entirely your own decision, not mine. I know how I meant it, maybe I should have added a few caveats for the overly pedantic or hard of grammar. I note you have added nothing constructive to this conversation yet.
Slashdot Mirror
Yup, already been over that, an iris airlock covers it nicely. Thats two irises near the top of the tower. One opens to let the ship through, then closes immediately after, the other does the same, but you just evacuate the airlock between launches.
If you are in the mood for unpleasant surprises, try reading the links. That you have to ask what it would be made of means that you shouldn't be contributing to this discussion. Have a nice one.
Transatlantic vac train tunnel, the research has alredy been done. Google it yourself, I'm too damn sunburned right now. And read the links for gods sake. Buildings 1 mile high were 1950s technology.
Right, I have discussed it with people who actually have done the math, and what you think diverges wildly from reality. Sorry about that. Escape velocity is waaaay higher than what you need for GEO orbit. And unless you have some actual facts to back up your hypothesising, I'll file it under "s" for speculation. Or maybe "u" for uninformed speculation. And do read the links like a good man.
I am not sure, myself. However even if it cost ten times more, it would still be less than NASA's 2005 budget. There ain't much you can't do with 15 billion.
My guess is they are trying to cut down on all unneccesary weight, so the mechanisms I mention here would not perhaps be optimal. What would be optimal would be their dipstick. This has the sad drawback of not actually working, so they might have to bite the bullet. On the other hand, maybe some visionary will solve their problems for them at 2% of the budgetary requirements it would otherwise take. Sigh. What about keeping the fuel in a collapsable skin inside its hard shell, and put a pressure gauge bleeding (very thin) air into the area the collapsing skin has left behind. The thinner the air beside the fuel tank, the less fuel you have.
There might be methods whereby you wouldn't need to carry the fuel with you, for example with a space elevator. However, just what advantages would a space elevator offer over a tower launch? (I've used parts of this post before, but I have since refined my ideas). I contacted a man responsible for a similar idea a while back, the skyramp (warning: hideous javascript menu may break firefox), Carlton Meyer, and had a dialogue in which he pointed me to a tower launch archive.
The ideas I see bandied about there are similar to what I had in mind, which would be essentially an 11km tall tower (think pylons rather than skyscrapers, based at sea), with evacuated airless launch tubes, using nuclear reactors to power a maglev or pulley system to accelerate vessels to escape velocity. These would then emerge above the end of the troposphere, with it's associated weather and air pressure, and have little to no fuel needed to match the earth's gravity, meaning you could do a lot more while you were up there. At a reasonable acceleration (5 to 7 g's) you would be in geostationary orbit. From there you could build a fully system wide ship or ships, as its much easier to escape the planet's gravity from GEO than from the surface.
Not only would this enable multiple launches daily, it is, unlike the space elevator, readily achievable with today's technology, and financially viable as well. Given NASA had an annual budget of $16.2 billion for 2005, and a nuclear power plant costs a cool billion to build, give or take, we could have this up and running in a few years.
Or even just measure the internal pressure of the tank. Less pressure, less fuel. Can someone write me a cheque now please?
Sure just design your out-pipes with a gauge, like a speedometer. Measure the speed of fuel coming out and factor in the width of the pipes (and fuel density?). Its then just a case of keeping track of how much fuel you have used. I mean how is this a major problem? You could even build a fit-all for hand held containers with vernier calipers inside to measure pipe width, enter your fuel type and let it keep track for you. Or if you encounter the odd situation of an ungauged fuel tank of some kind, design fuel tanks as a collapsing piston; the level of the fuel could be easily read then by just mechanics. This has the added advantage of pressurising the fuel as well.
Can't sue the US government unless it agrees to be sued. You're all fucked. You can't sue, can't vote them out of office (or Mirror McDemocrat will just be voted in), can't influence your elected officials because of the corruption of lobbying power groups, and you have the foundation for a class based system firmly in place with king george I and II, and possibly jeb I shortly, as well as the senatorial class, already above quite a few laws if I recall correctly. You can't shoot your way to freedom any more, you are outgunned by your own (immensely indoctrinated to obey orders) military.
If you want to see a speeded up version of the inevitable result of the US political system, take a look at the Philippines. Poor bastards tried to emulate the American way of life as much as possible, and now they are struggling deperately to put in a parliamentary system, fighting against their own largely uneducated and ignorant population who are wooed by massive media influence. If I was over there or actively involved in the US in any way, I would be trying to take a page out of the Filipinos' book, and move to a parliamentary system as well. Assuming you don't just get arrested and vanished for speaking out.
Do you know the percentage of chipsets made by Chinese manufacturers in Taiwan, Shanghai and Beijing every year?
What you mean like the stolen ones they were too ignorant to reverse engineer? Idiot.
Well, the fact is we do have the genes for selfishness and competition too
Um where did you get this idea? The line between nature and nurture is fuzzy and ill-understood at best, at worst non existent. Stating something as fact when it plainly isn't ain't helping your argument.
We are born cooperators, and competition is something that is (mostly) a learned behavior.
Yes, if you mean within our learned boundaries, as in within the boundaries of the tribe or clan, we cooperate. Anyone outside that boundary is fair game. And even that is a learned behaviour.
It seems to me that you were stating basically the opposite, that people are basically pricks and only society makes them behave otherwise.
Nope, I was saying that people are basically self interested, and the conditioning received in school and early education is a required part of a functioning society in order to overcome that instinct.
I would rather recognize a hard truth, such as "people are basically evil" and work from there than hold fast to a comfortable illusion. That being said, in my mind the balance of evidence points towards the "people are basically good" hypothesis.
My position is that people are basically biased towards the self-interest end of the scale, which is neither good nor evil, but it is what it is. Thats the very heart of my point. The results of it may be evil, and sometimes can be good, depending on your definition of these two very fluid terms. As to recognising a hard truth, I am with you 100% on that. By the way, another poster responded to you with a fairly nasty ad-hominem on my position, I'd just like to say that I have nothing but contempt for the likes of people that won't respond to posters directly, but try to force their ponderous bulk in the back door.
The GP of this post doesn't, and probably won't realize how outgunned he is in this discussion, because of how personally identified he is with his ideology about humanity. An admittance of the possibility of error would come with an emotional cost that is too high to bear. He is not unique in this, most people feel personally attacked when their highly held beliefs are called into question.
What? You ignoramus. Now while I understand that you might feel that this qualifies your statement in some way, nonetheless it doesn't detract from the fact that its the truth. Two people having a decent discussion, rare enough around here, and a moron like you makes his knock kneed run for the sun. If you have something to say to me, do join the party. Otherwise keep it closed, like a good lad.
Along those lines and speaking of fraud, I was researching a web promotion group, which promises high page results (and seems to deliver too) and I found the most peculiar thing. Take a look at this. If you look at the results there, there are hundreds of links from sites like 6246.u2mme6.info, but if you look at the code for these sites, they aren't as such links. The pages don't load in a browser because of an iframe to a non existent site, but if you download the pages via httrack or one of those, you see the a page of bizarre code. An example of that is here (you'll have to look at the page source to see it, I don't know how to show it in slashdot)...
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http://www.pro.ie/marketing-ireland/every-ai
Has anyone got any idea what is going on here, or how that might affect their page ranking? Should I report them to google?
Look I see what you are trying to say here, its that people are basically alright if you give them a chance, and trying to back that up with examples from history and apparently modern day tribes, the irony of which is not lost to me. But listen, what makes you think the same indoctrination process wasn't going on on a tribal level? Anyway I wasn't talking about archaeology, and only mentioned it as an aside. And a small one at that.
Syphilis. How does it feel to know that the "great leader" and chairman was influenced in his actions by a sexually transmitted disease? Wow, an entire culture founded on an STD that drives people mad. That explains a lot.
"The way it is always is the way it should be. Don't work for change."
There are very good reasons for that. People are not naturally team players; the whole of our natures are built around self preservation and self advancement. Left to their own devices, people will fragment into clan structures or individuals, and squabble with other groups over resources (a bit like the 90,000 odd years before Sumeria). The conditioning received in school to stay within the system, get educated, get a good job in a company, is vital to maintaining civilisation and advancing society.
The alternative to that is neither a free thinking commune of the enlightened nor a barbaric anarchy. It is a world where trust doesn't exist, and alliances only hold as long as one side sees an advantage. People always trying to get the better of each other, treachery as the norm. I know that sounds like the way it is today, but that is just evidence that the conditioning received in school is not very effective. Things only get done when people work with each other, and try to help one another, and not always look for the advantage. In any society, the call to cooperate is the mark of a civilised man.
Now the downside to that is the independantly minded chafe at this conditioning, and it causes problems for entrepreneurs and the visionaries among us. But structures exist to accomodate such people, so the problem is mitigated somewhat. If you are talking about widespread societal change, that is immensely difficult to enact, and with good reason, requiring a majority of the population to agree with your proposed changes. A further risk is when the conditioning in school is too good, allowing leaders to run roughshod over the general population. But thats a fine line that every society must learn to tread. Its not pretty, but I am hard pressed to come up with a better system, given human nature is what it is.
whenever anyone experss an opinion you don't like, you dismiss it as bollocks or baseless arguments.
:D
You see, here's your underlying problem, my underendowed asian friend. If you don't want debate, you really shouldn't be posting to slashdot. And when someone offers you superior arguments, you throw a tantrum, which amounts to "YOU SAME TING! YOU SAME TING!". Which merely reinforces my point.
You expressly ignore the very first comment I made on this subject, which talks about the "heavy handed buffoons" they have in charge over there, a fine Chinese tradition going back to chairman mao syphillis-in-ze-dong and earlier. You keep talking about national darksides, and while I can see why that might weigh heavily on your mind, it sadly just isn't applicable to me. No witch burnings, no slave trade, no US big-wang troops.
The only thing you are doing right now is proving me right, without any assistance from me whatsoever. When it comes to being abusive, like you, I can dish it out with the best of them, but frankly this whole discussion has started to loop over and over like a broken record, and I see no point in continuing it further. You have no argument except insult, and the bottom line is, you're starting to bore the shit out of me. So take your tedious insults, your low brow insinuations, and your knuckle dragging tantrums, and stop bringing the name of china into shame. More shame, I mean.
I will say this for China though. Damn fine women. And they appreciate a good big wang, as well.
This is great.
Sadly, the more you talk, the more you expose to everybody about your ignorance.
Thats funny I was just thinking the same...
Let others be the judge.
Yes, you'd like that wouldn't you? Sorry, but we respect the rights of individuals to have free speech around here. Might be an alien concept, but give it a bit of thought, it grows on you.
you could've avoided being such an asshole. Pathetically, all we see here is a self-righteous bigot's refusal of enlightment from others.
Oh enlighten me to the superiority of your ways. From what I see so far from you, you have much to teach in the art of the baseless argument, oh mastah.
they resort to the tragic event at Tiananmen Square, in the hope that demeaning the opponent would give them the moral superiority...waffle...How does slave trade or burning witches sound to you? How about the shooting of civilians by the US troops and local police in Kabul as we saw it in the news yesterday?
This is going to rock your kasbah, sparky, but I'm not American. Don't live there, don't especially want to. So that makes you racist and jumping to far more ill informed conclusions than I ever have. Oh and the square is just one incident of many, and one which I seriously doubt you attended. Besides, whats a rampant racist like me doing learning eight languages? Obviously its to better abuse the natives! Ahhhh I am enlightened.
You can't even distiguish the people from the regime, can you? "Intellectual debater"?...you'd probably be one of those jackbooted thugs...it's very likely you'd be brainwashed by some propaganda machine and turning your gun at the free thinking people.
I'm wondering where you are drawing these conclusions from. My original statement was that the leaders of China are heavy handed buffoons whose tantrums are shameful to their country. How do you pull your ideas from that? Thus far you have been bellowing, cursing, throwing insults about like water, making false assumptions, and in short, throwing a tantrum.
Which merely underlines my original point nicely. I need more foes like you.
You're a real hard man when you're hiding behind a keyboard, Cindy.
Not content with calling me an ignorant asshole in another thread, he splits the thread. Well Cindy Fong, I'm not an American, and I do trust the media in my country to give me an accurate representation, because they have no reason to be biased either way. Lets put it like this, search for "tiananmen square" on google.cn and come burbling to me about media suppression then. Ignorance and arrogance go hand in hand, and the Chinese have a surplus of both, fuelled by propaganda and an incredible degree of brainwashing. Maybe you might want to export some along with the cheap underwear? I mean since advanced chipsets are too complicated to understand, that is, even if you steal the prototypes.
. It's just that your claim that all Chinese treat others like shit makes you an ignorant asshole
See how easy it is to act tough on the internet? Well, big man, why don't you show me a link to where I said that. Show me the link. No? Maybe you might try reading the comments before forming noises from your gaseous extrusions next time. As to the rest of it, its about as well formed as your initial comments.
Hold up your hand in front of your face, palm outwards. At eye level. Just do it. See your wrist? Thats the width of my penis, my little asian friend. :D
Okay, so that was trolling. He started it.
Right. If you could just pick one point and then stick to it like a good man, it might help you out a little. I guess the old propaganda school isn't up to much in the arena of intellectual debating, huh? :D I'll do my best to track down the main threads, you can work it out yourself from there.
And now you're pretending the innocent finally? After insulting the Chinese all together in your posts
I call em like I see em, son. I have no need to claim innocence, since I was never guilty in the first place, of whatever crime you seem to be accusing me of. Probably one of your infamous "thought crimes".
I've seen assholes in China and I've seen assholes here.
I wager you have, at that.
you had a wonderful chance to learn and appreciate the greatness of another culture
And how very great it is. Any culture that feels the need to mow down defenceless students in cold blood, invade sovereign nations, lock up the very minds of its own citizens, and then tries to fob off its genocidal lies as the truth, how mighty that nation is. Oh no wait, my mistake, it makes me sick.
I really feel sorry for you.
The feeling is entirely mutual.
If you feel upset about whatever China is doing in changing the world
Ah, China changing the world. You mean Taiwanese and Hong Kongese industrialists and investors pumping capital into the backward mainland changing the world. The last time Chairman Mao "Syphillitic Paedophile" Zedong tried to change anything, how many Chinese died?
Finally, following your logic of accusing 808140, I suspect you work for Intel,
Yes but the jolly part is I am not in China, so you can't have the jackbooted thugs kick down my door.
You read it all right, not your imagination. How you interpret that is entirely your own decision, not mine. I know how I meant it, maybe I should have added a few caveats for the overly pedantic or hard of grammar. I note you have added nothing constructive to this conversation yet.