You are correct, there are systems out there that do not suffer from viruses.
For example, my 4 year old Windows XP machine has never suffered from a virus.
Since it doesn't suffer, I'd put that second core to use running complex GIS spatial analysis applications on large datasets, while at the same time drafting large files in autocad... and actually get good productivity from both applications at the same time.
It's a shame so many here are hung up on the imaginary need to dedicate one core to mundane things that supposedly only (and all) windows users experience supposedly constantly every moment their computer's are turned on.
The truth is out there, just not coming from the mouths of the linux fanboys.
yes, but to get a dual core computer, you wont have to spend an extra $400 on a special mother board, you won't have to spend the full price for a second CPU.
Instead you will pay the usual price for the motherboard, and around $80 more than the cost of a single CPU.
Intel and AMD need to sell the dual core CPU's cheap to get them in the market fast, so that all those lazy programmers will actually take advantage of the new hardware out there.
Windows XP is multi-threaded. Without this it would be much more painful to switch between multiple tasks running on your windows computer.
When hyper-threading came out, we all found out the benefits of multi-threaded windows with the virtual second CPU. Systems ran much smoother, I found it much easier to get more done at my GIS / CAD / programming job, where I no longer had to wait 10 minutes to switch between a large ACAD file, and a ArcMap application running at the same time.
Dual core turns that virtual second CPU into a real second CPU. The average computer user who multi-tasks constantly, probably without even realizing it will not only feel a much smoother system, but more of his applications will be getting real work done at the same time.
There's a great review and multi tasking test at www.anandtech.com which proves the advantages will be huge.
But, as always, its much more important for slashdot to twist any great new technology into some way to prove windows is the devil.
Me thinks slashdot now runs very much the way george bush runs... "I won't let information get in the way of the fight against terrorism".. a direct quote of Bush recently while he was trying to place the blame of his bad decisions on the intelligence agencies that he refused to listen to in the first place.
Or in slashdot's case... "in the way of the fight against windows"
You hear about something you don't understand, you assume its scary scary, or let the media mislead you about the subject.
You beg for the powers above to take away your rights and freedoms to protect yourself from an imaginary threat.
Its not just about blogs, Its the american way.
Of course the ignorant poll respondants wouldn't know that the vast vast majority of blogs get virtually no viewers at all.
They wouldn't understand that censorship is not needed because its so easy to trace the owner of a website that traditional existing laws could easily be applied to punish anyone spreading the personal information, or at least you'd have a perfect target to sue.
sorry bud, but playing solitaire and quickly flipping back to a text document when someone walks by is not considered 'hard core'
You don't even have a clue what the apps I discussed are or how they effect your computer resources. All the RAM in the world wont help you a bit when you're running complex spatial analysis in ArcGIS, trying to get some drafting done in ACAD, and flipping into other programs to help out your coworkers, using a computer that also hosts a PostGIS database that other computers interact with.
You didn't read the stories at anandtech. You obviously don't understand the subject.
So I wish you luck as you slog through your life with old technology and low productivity.
Read the two part review of Intel's new dual core chip at www.anandtech.com. Maybe you'll put away your typical slashdot pessimism away.
Yes, very few programs are ready for multithreading now... but Everyone runs a few programs at once.
They did a great multi-tasking test to compare the usability of the new dual core chip at 3.2ghz versus intel's 3.73ghz single core chip. And pointed out that Windows XP is in fact multithreaded and can benefit well on its own from a dual core chip.
Of course the single threaded programs ran about the same as usual... but the testers could easily flip back and forth between many different programs, each doing hard tasks, without the computer stalling or the programs going totally non-responsive, and overall more being accomplished in the same time.
The 'real-world' usage tests showed a huge benefit to having dual core, with much smoother operations, far better than hyperthreading alone.
Poor non-HT AMD user's like myself dream of being able to multitask that much without waiting forever when switching between active programs.
I have no doubt that I literally could save an hour or two per day of wasted time at my job if I had a dual core processor. Two large autocad files, an ArcGIS dataset, text editors and more... Constantly having to flip back and forth, fire up one, close another, grab a coffee while I wait.
motorman/conductor... are you really so daft as to not get my point? The guy at the controls was drunk and caused a crash! Damn, no wonder you guys gave yourself a president like Bush!
Perhaps I used the wrong term because our system uses NO ONE, no conductor, no motorman, just computers... and works great, 19 years on a line longer and with more stops than your new L line. Your 'computerized' system will still have one person in control on board.
Isn't this website for people who understand technology? Can you really not conceive of doors that can tell an arm or briefcase is in the way? They do have a couple inches of springy give to them while they are closing, and they can't lock closed unless they are fully closed. Its not a difficult concept!... no need for emergency breaking because the event you describe has simply never happened in 19 years and something like 40million passengers!
Now, can a computer emergency break? damn what a dumbass, do you think programmers can't create reactive systems? I've been on several trips where the system automatically shut down safely due to obstructions detected on the tracks or because trains were delayed at stations up ahead. Wow, I'm glad you weren't that programmer! It's obvious how your system would run.
Ok, double the fare may be a bit high... but what you dont realize is that the BC transit system is subsidized by property taxes. The fare itself does not cover the full cost of the trip. Check into it... you may find similar subsidies on your systems.
Regardless, try some basic math... that $30/hr motorman really costs the subway system probably closer to $45 per hour after the cost of employee benefits and company paid paroll duductions, pension plans, uniforms, and everything else is taken into account. Let's say the second employee on board, the conductor gets a little less, say $35/hr including his wages plus the other employee costs.
Now Let's say your train runs 20 hours a day... in one year that's about $580,000 employee cost for one train.
Assuming the same cost structure, in the 19 year life of the Vancouver Skytrain, which has 4 cars per train, the cost of the employees for one train could have PAID FOR THE DAMN TRAIN! The cost is significant!
Ok, now lets rebutt your last dumbass statement, the one about airplanes.
Are you really THAT stupid to think that flying a plane is in any way similar to hitting a go/stop control in a vehicle on a closed circuit, where steering isn't even needed, let alone worrying about the 3rd dimension?
yes, you are correct... yes, NYC people are truly uncivilized compared to your average Canadian who generally speaking follows the rules... instead of blocking a train to the point where no one can get anywhere like it seems the dumbasses in your neck of the woods do.
How could you possibly conceive of a computerized system that can't react to people blocking the doors, by simply slamming it on whoever is there? The system works great here. heck! we dont even have turnstyles!
I hereby elevate You to the position of Ignorant, since you are oblivious to the fact that the other person ignorantly believed your message.
Really, get a dictionary, you must be confused about what Ignorance is.
Here, let me help you... with a reminder that to be ignorant is not to be stupid, but to be unaware or unknowledgeable of a subject...
Ignorant \Ig"no*rant\, a. [F., fr. L. ignorans, -antis, p. pr. of ignorare to be ignorant. See Ignore.]
1. Destitute of knowledge; uninstructed or uninformed; untaught; unenlightened. [1913 Webster]
He that doth not know those things which are of use for him to know, is but an ignorant man, whatever he may know besides. --Tillotson. [1913 Webster]
2. Unacquainted with; unconscious or unaware; -- used with of. [1913 Webster]
Ignorant of guilt, I fear not shame. --Dryden. [1913 Webster]
3. Unknown; undiscovered. [Obs.]
[1913 Webster]
Ignorant concealment. --Shak. [1913 Webster]
Alas, what ignorant sin have I committed? --Shak. [1913 Webster]
4. Resulting from ignorance; foolish; silly. [1913 Webster]
His shipping, Poor ignorant baubles! -- on our terrible seas, Like eggshells moved. --Shak.
Syn: Uninstructed; untaught; unenlightened; uninformed; unlearned; unlettered; illiterate. -- Ignorant, Illiterate. Ignorant denotes lack of knowledge, either as to single subject or information in general; illiterate refers to an ignorance of letters, or of knowledge acquired by reading and study. In the Middle Ages, a great proportion of the higher classes were illiterate, and yet were far from being ignorant, especially in regard to war and other active pursuits. [1913 Webster]
In such business Action is eloquence, and the eyes of the ignorant More learned than the ears. --Shak. [1913 Webster]
In the first ages of Christianity, not only the learned and the wise, but the ignorant and illiterate, embraced torments and death. --Tillotson. [1913 Webster]
Source: The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.44
THERE IS a mechanism that stops the doors if there is an obstruction! They can not forcefully close if held open too long. In fact when held too long, if the other passengers haven't dealt with the problem, Skytrain control yells to stop blocking the door and sends security over, meanwhile watching the many cameras to tell if its a serious issue or not.
Get with the times, the system designers did actually spend time considering a few details here and there, this is a Canadian system, not a steam engine in India with 1000 people sitting on top of the box cars!
How did your ignorant message get an insightful mod?
1991 New York City... a conductor drunk at the controls caused a crash.
Need I say more?
yes, i need to..
What makes you think that the trains don't have manual controls? The fully computerized Skytrain in Vancouver BC, that has run since 1986 without a crash, has manual controls on each train hidden behind locked panels in case they are needed.
What makes you think that a closing door is somehow going to hurt someone? The skytrain doors have this magical bizarre ability to stop closing if resistance is met, say by a person entering late, incredible isnt it! Heck, I've blocked the doors on rare occasion to help disabled or elderly people get on, and the doors didnt kill me!
I dont feel bad for one second about any conductor loosing his job. Why should I pay twice the fare so that some fat union bastard can sit there doing a pointless job? How do you know he's paying attention? How do you know he's awake, or whether or not he's drunk like the one in 1991?
ya sure, great example, I guess it didnt occur to you that under pressure to move more people faster, some programmer may have simply been told to allow the trains to travel so close together that a collision was unavoidable if a problem arose.
All computerized subways must be evil because a virtual 3rd world country that is notorios for extreme beauracracies that destroys the form and function of most projects, and that can't afford a penny for anything screwed up had crashes.
Like the Russian government even cared if there was a risk to public safety! Don't you recall how they killed all those hostages while trying to take out the terrorists that had taken over a playhouse a couple years ago? Whats a train crash here and there!
Now, on the otherhand...
Vancouver, British COlumbia, Canada has had a fully computerized transit system (Skytrain) in operation since 1986. Built for Expo '86. And later expanded.
A quick search on google turns up no crashes in that time of nearly 20 years. Sure there's been dumbasses who fell or were pushed onto the tracks, but the computer system has been very successful and eliminated the expense of having one or more drivers on every train.
In fact, aside from the odd breakdowns that always happen on any system, the only big disruptions I recall are when the transit union went on strike (management took over, and it was free rides for all), and when the year 2000 bug hit and their new 'fixed' software failed which just meant the trains didnt run for a couple days.
I'll take a properly programmed, properly tested computerized system any day over your system where drivers may loose attention due to boredom, may make mistakes simply because they are human, or just cant leave the vodka drinking for afterwork.
Yes, it is harder, but you are not 'digging' a hole, you are boring into the ground with a tube that supports the ground around it, usually lubricated with a slippery drilling mud that is pumped down the tube, out the drill bit.
The drill bit is designed either to cut a tube of drill core from the rock that is recovered intact to the surface for analysis, or else to grind up the rock and wash out the material with the pumped water.
Usually the start of the hole is 'cased'... bored at a wider diameter, using the wider drill string in as a liner to support the hole while a smaller drill string continues through it deeper.
A single continuous drill hole ~2600m long is a very difficult thing to do. Many things can go wrong to block the hole or damage the drill string forcing abandonment of the hole.
Mine workings like the South African example are not easy by anymeans, but are very feasible since you are advancing 10 feet or so at a time in , shoring up everything as you go, and can easily replace any broken equipment, and work around most ground problems.
A small mining / exploration company in British Columbia, Canada recently drilled a full kilometer deeper (~2600m) trying to find a new extension to the old Sullivan mine, a base metal mine that operated for ~100 years.... And at that depth, they hit the target they were looking for!
They weren't drilling into ocean crust, so the moho is much deeper, but they had not much trouble getting to the depth they were at.
minor issues... like the half dozen or so flights before the first shuttle blew up where the O ring problem had been observed but not dealt with.... like the many flights before the second shuttle blew up where foam was observed to have flown off, but no one bothered to test whether it really posed a danger or not.
What other problems have they just ignored?
I dont really care about the safety of the crew or anything like that, it just pisses me off that some fool hides a problem and jeopardizes the whole system. We gotta get off this rock so that some people will survive idiots like bush.
Interesting considering most people agree that gaming is about the most intensive thing you can make your computer do. So you are saying that macs suck at the most intensive stuff... and therefore excels at the mediocre crap.
Setup 2 antennas along a street at known locations, put a computer in there somewhere...
and you have a system that can tell if each and every car is speeding or not, that can automatically send out fines, or at least add to your driving record to force you to pay more when you renew your license / insurance.
Much cheaper than the old fashioned way because you can pass judgement on thousands of cars per hour instead of just on a few cars stopped manually by cops.
Of course there is no viable arguement against this system or any other car tracking system. You have NO right to drive, you may be permitted to drive in a law abiding manner if you hold a valid license, but you have no right to drive.
No, you are overly critical because it is 'in' to hate MS and you'd rather not think for yourself when you can follow the crowd.
It is 'in' to hate such a major employer of people around the world, it is 'in' to hate the richest man in the world simply because he's rich and you aren't, regardless of him being the largest charitible benefactor EVER.
Want to hate a truly evil entity? One who has murdered 150,000 innocent people in Iraq? One who has intentionally destabilized world oil markets by invading Iraq for no just reason, simply so his oil friends can profit from higher prices? Hate Bush.
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dumbass anonymous coward.
they are itching for the product from Dell, because Intel is sending the first batches of chips to Dell, not to your local parts store.
Whether or not they are stupid enough to buy from Dell instead of wait a couple months for availability to increase is the real question.
You are correct, there are systems out there that do not suffer from viruses.
... and actually get good productivity from both applications at the same time.
For example, my 4 year old Windows XP machine has never suffered from a virus.
Since it doesn't suffer, I'd put that second core to use running complex GIS spatial analysis applications on large datasets, while at the same time drafting large files in autocad
It's a shame so many here are hung up on the imaginary need to dedicate one core to mundane things that supposedly only (and all) windows users experience supposedly constantly every moment their computer's are turned on.
The truth is out there, just not coming from the mouths of the linux fanboys.
yes, but to get a dual core computer, you wont have to spend an extra $400 on a special mother board, you won't have to spend the full price for a second CPU.
Instead you will pay the usual price for the motherboard, and around $80 more than the cost of a single CPU.
Intel and AMD need to sell the dual core CPU's cheap to get them in the market fast, so that all those lazy programmers will actually take advantage of the new hardware out there.
Windows XP is multi-threaded. Without this it would be much more painful to switch between multiple tasks running on your windows computer.
... "I won't let information get in the way of the fight against terrorism" .. a direct quote of Bush recently while he was trying to place the blame of his bad decisions on the intelligence agencies that he refused to listen to in the first place.
... "in the way of the fight against windows"
When hyper-threading came out, we all found out the benefits of multi-threaded windows with the virtual second CPU. Systems ran much smoother, I found it much easier to get more done at my GIS / CAD / programming job, where I no longer had to wait 10 minutes to switch between a large ACAD file, and a ArcMap application running at the same time.
Dual core turns that virtual second CPU into a real second CPU. The average computer user who multi-tasks constantly, probably without even realizing it will not only feel a much smoother system, but more of his applications will be getting real work done at the same time.
There's a great review and multi tasking test at www.anandtech.com which proves the advantages will be huge.
But, as always, its much more important for slashdot to twist any great new technology into some way to prove windows is the devil.
Me thinks slashdot now runs very much the way george bush runs
Or in slashdot's case
You hear about something you don't understand, you assume its scary scary, or let the media mislead you about the subject.
You beg for the powers above to take away your rights and freedoms to protect yourself from an imaginary threat.
Its not just about blogs, Its the american way.
Of course the ignorant poll respondants wouldn't know that the vast vast majority of blogs get virtually no viewers at all.
They wouldn't understand that censorship is not needed because its so easy to trace the owner of a website that traditional existing laws could easily be applied to punish anyone spreading the personal information, or at least you'd have a perfect target to sue.
sorry bud, but playing solitaire and quickly flipping back to a text document when someone walks by is not considered 'hard core'
You don't even have a clue what the apps I discussed are or how they effect your computer resources. All the RAM in the world wont help you a bit when you're running complex spatial analysis in ArcGIS, trying to get some drafting done in ACAD, and flipping into other programs to help out your coworkers, using a computer that also hosts a PostGIS database that other computers interact with.
You didn't read the stories at anandtech. You obviously don't understand the subject.
So I wish you luck as you slog through your life with old technology and low productivity.
Read the two part review of Intel's new dual core chip at www.anandtech.com. Maybe you'll put away your typical slashdot pessimism away.
... but Everyone runs a few programs at once.
... but the testers could easily flip back and forth between many different programs, each doing hard tasks, without the computer stalling or the programs going totally non-responsive, and overall more being accomplished in the same time.
... Constantly having to flip back and forth, fire up one, close another, grab a coffee while I wait.
Yes, very few programs are ready for multithreading now
They did a great multi-tasking test to compare the usability of the new dual core chip at 3.2ghz versus intel's 3.73ghz single core chip. And pointed out that Windows XP is in fact multithreaded and can benefit well on its own from a dual core chip.
Of course the single threaded programs ran about the same as usual
The 'real-world' usage tests showed a huge benefit to having dual core, with much smoother operations, far better than hyperthreading alone.
Poor non-HT AMD user's like myself dream of being able to multitask that much without waiting forever when switching between active programs.
I have no doubt that I literally could save an hour or two per day of wasted time at my job if I had a dual core processor. Two large autocad files, an ArcGIS dataset, text editors and more
motorman/conductor ... are you really so daft as to not get my point? The guy at the controls was drunk and caused a crash! Damn, no wonder you guys gave yourself a president like Bush!
... and works great, 19 years on a line longer and with more stops than your new L line. Your 'computerized' system will still have one person in control on board.
... no need for emergency breaking because the event you describe has simply never happened in 19 years and something like 40million passengers!
... but what you dont realize is that the BC transit system is subsidized by property taxes. The fare itself does not cover the full cost of the trip. Check into it ... you may find similar subsidies on your systems.
... that $30/hr motorman really costs the subway system probably closer to $45 per hour after the cost of employee benefits and company paid paroll duductions, pension plans, uniforms, and everything else is taken into account. Let's say the second employee on board, the conductor gets a little less, say $35/hr including his wages plus the other employee costs.
... in one year that's about $580,000 employee cost for one train.
Perhaps I used the wrong term because our system uses NO ONE, no conductor, no motorman, just computers
Isn't this website for people who understand technology? Can you really not conceive of doors that can tell an arm or briefcase is in the way? They do have a couple inches of springy give to them while they are closing, and they can't lock closed unless they are fully closed. Its not a difficult concept!
Now, can a computer emergency break? damn what a dumbass, do you think programmers can't create reactive systems? I've been on several trips where the system automatically shut down safely due to obstructions detected on the tracks or because trains were delayed at stations up ahead. Wow, I'm glad you weren't that programmer! It's obvious how your system would run.
Ok, double the fare may be a bit high
Regardless, try some basic math
Now Let's say your train runs 20 hours a day
Assuming the same cost structure, in the 19 year life of the Vancouver Skytrain, which has 4 cars per train, the cost of the employees for one train could have PAID FOR THE DAMN TRAIN! The cost is significant!
Ok, now lets rebutt your last dumbass statement, the one about airplanes.
Are you really THAT stupid to think that flying a plane is in any way similar to hitting a go/stop control in a vehicle on a closed circuit, where steering isn't even needed, let alone worrying about the 3rd dimension?
Damn! Think about it!
yes, you are correct ... yes, NYC people are truly uncivilized compared to your average Canadian who generally speaking follows the rules ... instead of blocking a train to the point where no one can get anywhere like it seems the dumbasses in your neck of the woods do.
How could you possibly conceive of a computerized system that can't react to people blocking the doors, by simply slamming it on whoever is there? The system works great here. heck! we dont even have turnstyles!
I hereby elevate You to the position of Ignorant, since you are oblivious to the fact that the other person ignorantly believed your message.
... with a reminder that to be ignorant is not to be stupid, but to be unaware or unknowledgeable of a subject ...
Really, get a dictionary, you must be confused about what Ignorance is.
Here, let me help you
Ignorant \Ig"no*rant\, a. [F., fr. L. ignorans, -antis, p. pr. of ignorare to be ignorant. See Ignore.]
1. Destitute of knowledge; uninstructed or uninformed; untaught; unenlightened. [1913 Webster]
He that doth not know those things which are of use for him to know, is but an ignorant man, whatever he may know besides. --Tillotson. [1913 Webster]
2. Unacquainted with; unconscious or unaware; -- used with of. [1913 Webster]
Ignorant of guilt, I fear not shame. --Dryden. [1913 Webster]
3. Unknown; undiscovered. [Obs.]
[1913 Webster]
Ignorant concealment. --Shak. [1913 Webster]
Alas, what ignorant sin have I committed? --Shak. [1913 Webster]
4. Resulting from ignorance; foolish; silly. [1913 Webster]
His shipping, Poor ignorant baubles! -- on our terrible seas, Like eggshells moved. --Shak.
Syn: Uninstructed; untaught; unenlightened; uninformed; unlearned; unlettered; illiterate. -- Ignorant, Illiterate. Ignorant denotes lack of knowledge, either as to single subject or information in general; illiterate refers to an ignorance of letters, or of knowledge acquired by reading and study. In the Middle Ages, a great proportion of the higher classes were illiterate, and yet were far from being ignorant, especially in regard to war and other active pursuits. [1913 Webster]
In such business Action is eloquence, and the eyes of the ignorant More learned than the ears. --Shak. [1913 Webster]
In the first ages of Christianity, not only the learned and the wise, but the ignorant and illiterate, embraced torments and death. --Tillotson. [1913 Webster]
Source: The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.44
Yes, and he bought your foolhardy story, hook, line, and sinker. How else would you define ignorance? perhaps YOU need a dictionary.
Damn, read the messages!
THERE IS a mechanism that stops the doors if there is an obstruction! They can not forcefully close if held open too long. In fact when held too long, if the other passengers haven't dealt with the problem, Skytrain control yells to stop blocking the door and sends security over, meanwhile watching the many cameras to tell if its a serious issue or not.
Get with the times, the system designers did actually spend time considering a few details here and there, this is a Canadian system, not a steam engine in India with 1000 people sitting on top of the box cars!
How did your ignorant message get an insightful mod?
1991 New York City ... a conductor drunk at the controls caused a crash.
..
Need I say more?
yes, i need to
What makes you think that the trains don't have manual controls? The fully computerized Skytrain in Vancouver BC, that has run since 1986 without a crash, has manual controls on each train hidden behind locked panels in case they are needed.
What makes you think that a closing door is somehow going to hurt someone? The skytrain doors have this magical bizarre ability to stop closing if resistance is met, say by a person entering late, incredible isnt it! Heck, I've blocked the doors on rare occasion to help disabled or elderly people get on, and the doors didnt kill me!
I dont feel bad for one second about any conductor loosing his job. Why should I pay twice the fare so that some fat union bastard can sit there doing a pointless job? How do you know he's paying attention? How do you know he's awake, or whether or not he's drunk like the one in 1991?
Here, look for yourself dumbass:
c es /SkyTrain/
http://www.translink.bc.ca/Transportation_Servi
or, if you can't read, 49KM, 32 stations.
No, its not huge like the FULL new york system, why would it be? There's only 1.7million people in the Vancouver region.
BUT, it is bigger than the 24 station, roughly 20km long L line.
ya sure, great example, I guess it didnt occur to you that under pressure to move more people faster, some programmer may have simply been told to allow the trains to travel so close together that a collision was unavoidable if a problem arose.
...
All computerized subways must be evil because a virtual 3rd world country that is notorios for extreme beauracracies that destroys the form and function of most projects, and that can't afford a penny for anything screwed up had crashes.
Like the Russian government even cared if there was a risk to public safety! Don't you recall how they killed all those hostages while trying to take out the terrorists that had taken over a playhouse a couple years ago? Whats a train crash here and there!
Now, on the otherhand
Vancouver, British COlumbia, Canada has had a fully computerized transit system (Skytrain) in operation since 1986. Built for Expo '86. And later expanded.
A quick search on google turns up no crashes in that time of nearly 20 years. Sure there's been dumbasses who fell or were pushed onto the tracks, but the computer system has been very successful and eliminated the expense of having one or more drivers on every train.
In fact, aside from the odd breakdowns that always happen on any system, the only big disruptions I recall are when the transit union went on strike (management took over, and it was free rides for all), and when the year 2000 bug hit and their new 'fixed' software failed which just meant the trains didnt run for a couple days.
I'll take a properly programmed, properly tested computerized system any day over your system where drivers may loose attention due to boredom, may make mistakes simply because they are human, or just cant leave the vodka drinking for afterwork.
Yes, it is harder, but you are not 'digging' a hole, you are boring into the ground with a tube that supports the ground around it, usually lubricated with a slippery drilling mud that is pumped down the tube, out the drill bit.
... bored at a wider diameter, using the wider drill string in as a liner to support the hole while a smaller drill string continues through it deeper.
The drill bit is designed either to cut a tube of drill core from the rock that is recovered intact to the surface for analysis, or else to grind up the rock and wash out the material with the pumped water.
Usually the start of the hole is 'cased'
yes, but that's not the point.
A single continuous drill hole ~2600m long is a very difficult thing to do. Many things can go wrong to block the hole or damage the drill string forcing abandonment of the hole.
Mine workings like the South African example are not easy by anymeans, but are very feasible since you are advancing 10 feet or so at a time in , shoring up everything as you go, and can easily replace any broken equipment, and work around most ground problems.
Big fat hairy deal.
... And at that depth, they hit the target they were looking for!
A small mining / exploration company in British Columbia, Canada recently drilled a full kilometer deeper (~2600m) trying to find a new extension to the old Sullivan mine, a base metal mine that operated for ~100 years.
They weren't drilling into ocean crust, so the moho is much deeper, but they had not much trouble getting to the depth they were at.
It's not as hard to do as its made out to be.
minor issues ... like the half dozen or so flights before the first shuttle blew up where the O ring problem had been observed but not dealt with. ... like the many flights before the second shuttle blew up where foam was observed to have flown off, but no one bothered to test whether it really posed a danger or not.
What other problems have they just ignored?
I dont really care about the safety of the crew or anything like that, it just pisses me off that some fool hides a problem and jeopardizes the whole system. We gotta get off this rock so that some people will survive idiots like bush.
macs are better for everything but gaming?
... and therefore excels at the mediocre crap.
Interesting considering most people agree that gaming is about the most intensive thing you can make your computer do. So you are saying that macs suck at the most intensive stuff
Sounds great! I'm switching today!
Actually the cost is minimal.
...
The car owner will pay for the tag.
Setup 2 antennas along a street at known locations, put a computer in there somewhere
and you have a system that can tell if each and every car is speeding or not, that can automatically send out fines, or at least add to your driving record to force you to pay more when you renew your license / insurance.
Much cheaper than the old fashioned way because you can pass judgement on thousands of cars per hour instead of just on a few cars stopped manually by cops.
Of course there is no viable arguement against this system or any other car tracking system. You have NO right to drive, you may be permitted to drive in a law abiding manner if you hold a valid license, but you have no right to drive.
So it's MS's fault when some other hardware maker gives you crappy drivers?
And why do you bring in 2K when the discussion is about XP? No one is arguing about 2K being full of BSOD triggers.
Lets start blaming MS for rainy days and dead goldfish!
No, you are overly critical because it is 'in' to hate MS and you'd rather not think for yourself when you can follow the crowd.
It is 'in' to hate such a major employer of people around the world, it is 'in' to hate the richest man in the world simply because he's rich and you aren't, regardless of him being the largest charitible benefactor EVER.
Want to hate a truly evil entity? One who has murdered 150,000 innocent people in Iraq? One who has intentionally destabilized world oil markets by invading Iraq for no just reason, simply so his oil friends can profit from higher prices? Hate Bush.
Yes, If MS makes a technological advance it can in no way be a good thing ever. Even when its been an obvious benefit to other companies.
We must keep MS in the dark ages. they should not be allowed to advance!
We must keep MS mired in their old problems, with no chance of ever improving so that we may continue to suffer!
Of course they are behind,
They were too busy making stories that link to every single damn article in this months Wired magazine.