"A primer for Windows developers on Microsoft’s website states that distribution of traditional desktop applications will proceed as usual. “Open distribution: retail stores, web, private networks, individual sharing, and so on” will be allowed"....
This tidbit is NOT like how apple does things. The one thing i hate about Apples walled garden is that I have to pay $99 a year to test an app on an actual device that I OWN. I know Apple will say that they want their users to have a "good experience" or whatever but if i want to write an app that will heat up *my* phone so much that it makes the phone literally explode i should have every right to do so and if someone comes to me and wants to try an app that I wrote on his/her phone without getting a certificate key and wants to take the risk of his/her phone exploding in their hand then that is the risk that they should accept, understanding that kind of behavior isn't covered under his/her phones warranty.
the whole crux of what you just said is really the heart of the debate of abortion. That is, when is a fetus a baby, a human, a living person? Because if it is a human being then it does have rights, whether or not he/she is inside the womb or not. The heart of the debate that causes so much controversy is when exactly is it a human being and more importantly, are we to decide when life begins? If we are to decide when life begins then we also have the "ability" through law to decide when it should end and that is something that none of us on here should want for our future and our future kids and their kids. This last point fuels the debate that since God is the creator of all human life then we, as mere humans, should not be deciding such an event and therefore no one person can say definitively if it starts at conception or later. Why no err on the side of caution? What if we are wrong?
As i said before around day 18 the heart starts to beat. Is this human? Around week 3 the backbone spinal column and nervous system are forming. The liver, kidneys and intestines begin to take shape. Is this human? Week 5 the yes, legs, and hands begin to develop. is this a human? Week 8 the baby can now start to hear. Is this now a human? Around week 12 the baby has all of the parts necessary to experience pain, including nerves, spinal cord, and thalamus and vocal cords are complete. The baby can suck its thumb. I will not go over every week but those weeks are pretty eventful i would say. At week 20 is when partial birth abortions are performed even though the baby can hear his/her mothers voice. Are you telling me there is no human there?
Yes. That's good for kids because you people mindlessly sacrifice for them so they can grow big and strong, but it's bad for society as a whole because the lot of you are one big EPIC FAIL when it comes to matters of public policy that involve reproduction.
what do you mean by "you people"? and "a lot of you"? curious as to how or what kind of category you are putting me in.
wait a minute. My wife is pregnant at 10 weeks. We went for a 7 week checkup and the heartbeat had already formed and was beating 167 bpm. Also the head and brain was forming, feet and arms as stubs. Are you telling me this isn't a living person? By the way the heartbeat is formed 18 days after conception. Is it a baby when hair grows? eyes open? are you suggesting that a baby doesn't have rights until out of the womb?
What difference does it make whether someone watching X DVDs by mail and someone who watches Y movies by streaming? The only difference here is that you can just watch them when you want and in a much shorter time span. I don't understand why content providers would think that just because someone doesn't have to wait for a movie in the mail, that that somehow put more value on that??
i was reading and i see this quote: "Subscribers will still have Paramount, MGM and Lionsgate movies, as Netflix hammered out partnerships with their joint venture Epix last year. Netflix and Starz had actually been working toward a new deal for months, but apparently it was all for naught, as Starz says it took this action to ensure its content wasn’t undervalued."
Why would starz be undervalued by being on netflix?
I currently put my sub on hold until December to see what they might have to offer in the future but if you are losing contracts then I don't know how that bodes well for them...
but there are a lot of things besides operator overloading that can shoot you in the foot. Do we scale down the language to the point of developers not having to debug their errors or perhaps no mechanism for a program to even crash? If you are a rookie there is no way to put a value as a noob to a language making mistakes, debugging your code, stepping through it, finding the errors and learning from your wicked ways.
they worded it differently but Gosling was less mysterious. It is clear that Gosling had a "personal choice" about not including operator overloading based on C++ mechanism that he saw were bad things. His personal choice can easily be converted down to what i said at the top of this thread. No operator overloading allowed 'because i say it isn't good for you and because i say so'. That, as I said before is not the right path to go down. Software developers should learn when to use a part of a language and when not to. Obviously, overloading an operator is not needed in a lot of cases. When you need to finally use it however, developers should learn the pros and cos, use the ability to do what they need, to get things done and not have a roadblock in front of them because one of the designers of the language feels like that he needs to hold your hand going down the pipe.
please give me the link where they gave a specific reason other than "because that's the way we wanted it". you want to know what i read straight from gosling about this very subject? How about look at this interview with Gosling himself.
And i quote: "There are some things that I kind of feel torn about, like operator overloading. I left out operator overloading as a fairly personal choice because I had seen too many people abuse it in C++" - In other words no operator overloading because he himself decided not to based on him decided what should and could be considered safe. If you don't want people messing things up there are a lot more things you could remove from the language outside of pointers and operator overloading.
Yeah i am still waiting for that. And after scouring through message boards, old blog posts/interviews from java designers of old and looking at other people wanting to do the same thing, the reason that java still does not allow or never intended you to overload operators? Simply because they say so and that's that. That's not a very good way to handle things in my opinion. Is the '+', '-', '*', '/' etc good enough for most people? Sure. Obviously if you just search 'java overload operators' you will clearly see that I think that this is a very basic issue that should be addressed.
if you are coming to the end of your yearly license with Oracle and why would you not switch to postgres and save some money? Sure you have to spend time and money switching the tables over to a different database and testing that but i am guessing that will cheaper than paying for another yearly license for Oracle and another year...etc etc.
Imagine you have a customer that is part of a contract that you just won but you have to find/deliver/develop a user interface of some sort for the customer to interact with their daily needs. On the backend you have a database, some other stuff and this and that that will interact with the GUI. Do you write your own GUI using WCF? Do you use QT which is free to distribute commercially?(all you have to do is include the dll/jar/whatever). Do you write your own?
No of course not. Why would anyone want to do that? How about let's go with a piece of crap software that makes a crappy GUI, with VB code running in the background, no documentation online to speak of, only runs on windows(of course), is buggy and the only interaction the "developers" have with this tool is to drag and drop. If a problem occurs, if you need a change in the software then you have to wait on said company to deliver... not to mention that that is extra money to add said feature(s). So what happens when someone else comes onto the project? They have been coding in C#/Java/C++/whatever language forever but it takes them 4 weeks to become even somewhat productive because this tool is so confusing and openly with question was built so that people could use it without doing any programming.
You cannot blame this piece of software for what it is. If it is built so the average joe can use it without programming a single line of code then so be it. You CAN however blame the ignoramous that fell for the hook line and sinker selling pitch on why we should be using said software because using another library or writing your own code would be too "expensive". Never mind the fact that you are totally and utterly dependent on said company to deliver knowledge and answers to questions about software so you fall behind schedule, nevermind that a new "developer" wastes 4 weeks of his or her time learning their way around a GUI instead of actually spending at most a couple of days learning about the software design and nevermind that the GUI is so horribly put together that is doesn't make sense for a coder. Nevermind the fact that the license for this software cost an unknown amount.
Management doesn;t seem to care/notice/know about options that are available and is so short sighted that he would make a decision that would make a team of "developers" want to just get up and leave. People who are management/approve contracts should NEVER make those decisions if he/she has not and/or is not a developer without at least putting together a team of real developers who are going to be working on it.
Open source software would be much further along if developers were allowed to be developers instead of put behind a management sandbox.
to be effecient in the class or is the book only required for the course there at Stanford. For just a cert i dont see many people signing up to buy a $100 book that they will only use a few pages of and possibly never use ever again.
I still, don't know for the life of me how tv network X can charge advertiser Y for some show when for all they all know, when the commercials come on, people could be browsing the web on their laptop(or any portable device), taking a nap, putting it on mute, changing channels, taking a dump, cooking in the other room or *gasp*, it was recorded and people skipped your silly commercials completely. It seems to me the advertisers would have already woken up.
"Apparently splitting the teams geographically forced more conversations among the team about what the client really wanted. Being forced to explain to the developers in India each day what the client wanted helped everyone get clearer and so the teams as a whole tend to become more productive."
How much more productive would they be if they were all in the same building, forcing less conversations via phone in different timezones, when they could have been writing software instead. If you need confirmation on clients needs going down the hall for 5 mins wastes a whole lot less time putting together the whole team for a phone call, calling india and a 5 mins talk turns into 30.
straight from the submittors mouth....i didnt write that part - they changed up my initial submission some, including the links but they totally added the database part -
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"A primer for Windows developers on Microsoft’s website states that distribution of traditional desktop applications will proceed as usual. “Open distribution: retail stores, web, private networks, individual sharing, and so on” will be allowed".... This tidbit is NOT like how apple does things. The one thing i hate about Apples walled garden is that I have to pay $99 a year to test an app on an actual device that I OWN. I know Apple will say that they want their users to have a "good experience" or whatever but if i want to write an app that will heat up *my* phone so much that it makes the phone literally explode i should have every right to do so and if someone comes to me and wants to try an app that I wrote on his/her phone without getting a certificate key and wants to take the risk of his/her phone exploding in their hand then that is the risk that they should accept, understanding that kind of behavior isn't covered under his/her phones warranty.
so then i'll look forward to you telling me when a developing fetus is all of a sudden a baby.
the whole crux of what you just said is really the heart of the debate of abortion. That is, when is a fetus a baby, a human, a living person? Because if it is a human being then it does have rights, whether or not he/she is inside the womb or not. The heart of the debate that causes so much controversy is when exactly is it a human being and more importantly, are we to decide when life begins? If we are to decide when life begins then we also have the "ability" through law to decide when it should end and that is something that none of us on here should want for our future and our future kids and their kids. This last point fuels the debate that since God is the creator of all human life then we, as mere humans, should not be deciding such an event and therefore no one person can say definitively if it starts at conception or later. Why no err on the side of caution? What if we are wrong?
As i said before around day 18 the heart starts to beat. Is this human? Around week 3 the backbone spinal column and nervous system are forming. The liver, kidneys and intestines begin to take shape. Is this human? Week 5 the yes, legs, and hands begin to develop. is this a human? Week 8 the baby can now start to hear. Is this now a human? Around week 12 the baby has all of the parts necessary to experience pain, including nerves, spinal cord, and thalamus and vocal cords are complete. The baby can suck its thumb. I will not go over every week but those weeks are pretty eventful i would say. At week 20 is when partial birth abortions are performed even though the baby can hear his/her mothers voice. Are you telling me there is no human there?
Yes. That's good for kids because you people mindlessly sacrifice for them so they can grow big and strong, but it's bad for society as a whole because the lot of you are one big EPIC FAIL when it comes to matters of public policy that involve reproduction.
what do you mean by "you people"? and "a lot of you"? curious as to how or what kind of category you are putting me in.
Take your baby out of the womb now and see if it's a living person or not.
A baby isn't a person until it develops enough of a nervous system to be sentient. Same reason why someone brain dead has no rights.
who said people who are brain dead has no rights? is that somewhere in our legal system?
wait a minute. My wife is pregnant at 10 weeks. We went for a 7 week checkup and the heartbeat had already formed and was beating 167 bpm. Also the head and brain was forming, feet and arms as stubs. Are you telling me this isn't a living person? By the way the heartbeat is formed 18 days after conception. Is it a baby when hair grows? eyes open? are you suggesting that a baby doesn't have rights until out of the womb?
What difference does it make whether someone watching X DVDs by mail and someone who watches Y movies by streaming? The only difference here is that you can just watch them when you want and in a much shorter time span. I don't understand why content providers would think that just because someone doesn't have to wait for a movie in the mail, that that somehow put more value on that??
i was reading and i see this quote: "Subscribers will still have Paramount, MGM and Lionsgate movies, as Netflix hammered out partnerships with their joint venture Epix last year. Netflix and Starz had actually been working toward a new deal for months, but apparently it was all for naught, as Starz says it took this action to ensure its content wasn’t undervalued."
Why would starz be undervalued by being on netflix?
fees from one company and less to another for the sheer purpose of destroying competition?
I currently put my sub on hold until December to see what they might have to offer in the future but if you are losing contracts then I don't know how that bodes well for them...
but there are a lot of things besides operator overloading that can shoot you in the foot. Do we scale down the language to the point of developers not having to debug their errors or perhaps no mechanism for a program to even crash? If you are a rookie there is no way to put a value as a noob to a language making mistakes, debugging your code, stepping through it, finding the errors and learning from your wicked ways.
they worded it differently but Gosling was less mysterious. It is clear that Gosling had a "personal choice" about not including operator overloading based on C++ mechanism that he saw were bad things. His personal choice can easily be converted down to what i said at the top of this thread. No operator overloading allowed 'because i say it isn't good for you and because i say so'. That, as I said before is not the right path to go down. Software developers should learn when to use a part of a language and when not to. Obviously, overloading an operator is not needed in a lot of cases. When you need to finally use it however, developers should learn the pros and cos, use the ability to do what they need, to get things done and not have a roadblock in front of them because one of the designers of the language feels like that he needs to hold your hand going down the pipe.
sorry wrong link from another story: Here is the real link: real gosling link
please give me the link where they gave a specific reason other than "because that's the way we wanted it". you want to know what i read straight from gosling about this very subject? How about look at this interview with Gosling himself.
And i quote: "There are some things that I kind of feel torn about, like operator overloading. I left out operator overloading as a fairly personal choice because I had seen too many people abuse it in C++" - In other words no operator overloading because he himself decided not to based on him decided what should and could be considered safe. If you don't want people messing things up there are a lot more things you could remove from the language outside of pointers and operator overloading.
Yeah i am still waiting for that. And after scouring through message boards, old blog posts/interviews from java designers of old and looking at other people wanting to do the same thing, the reason that java still does not allow or never intended you to overload operators? Simply because they say so and that's that. That's not a very good way to handle things in my opinion. Is the '+', '-', '*', '/' etc good enough for most people? Sure. Obviously if you just search 'java overload operators' you will clearly see that I think that this is a very basic issue that should be addressed.
if you are coming to the end of your yearly license with Oracle and why would you not switch to postgres and save some money? Sure you have to spend time and money switching the tables over to a different database and testing that but i am guessing that will cheaper than paying for another yearly license for Oracle and another year...etc etc.
Imagine you have a customer that is part of a contract that you just won but you have to find/deliver/develop a user interface of some sort for the customer to interact with their daily needs. On the backend you have a database, some other stuff and this and that that will interact with the GUI. Do you write your own GUI using WCF? Do you use QT which is free to distribute commercially?(all you have to do is include the dll/jar/whatever). Do you write your own?
No of course not. Why would anyone want to do that? How about let's go with a piece of crap software that makes a crappy GUI, with VB code running in the background, no documentation online to speak of, only runs on windows(of course), is buggy and the only interaction the "developers" have with this tool is to drag and drop. If a problem occurs, if you need a change in the software then you have to wait on said company to deliver... not to mention that that is extra money to add said feature(s). So what happens when someone else comes onto the project? They have been coding in C#/Java/C++/whatever language forever but it takes them 4 weeks to become even somewhat productive because this tool is so confusing and openly with question was built so that people could use it without doing any programming.
You cannot blame this piece of software for what it is. If it is built so the average joe can use it without programming a single line of code then so be it. You CAN however blame the ignoramous that fell for the hook line and sinker selling pitch on why we should be using said software because using another library or writing your own code would be too "expensive". Never mind the fact that you are totally and utterly dependent on said company to deliver knowledge and answers to questions about software so you fall behind schedule, nevermind that a new "developer" wastes 4 weeks of his or her time learning their way around a GUI instead of actually spending at most a couple of days learning about the software design and nevermind that the GUI is so horribly put together that is doesn't make sense for a coder. Nevermind the fact that the license for this software cost an unknown amount.
Management doesn;t seem to care/notice/know about options that are available and is so short sighted that he would make a decision that would make a team of "developers" want to just get up and leave. People who are management/approve contracts should NEVER make those decisions if he/she has not and/or is not a developer without at least putting together a team of real developers who are going to be working on it.
Open source software would be much further along if developers were allowed to be developers instead of put behind a management sandbox.
to be effecient in the class or is the book only required for the course there at Stanford. For just a cert i dont see many people signing up to buy a $100 book that they will only use a few pages of and possibly never use ever again.
since the original series? or the total abomination of the recent movie?
ok so - why would they want to do this again - especially when Square didn't give them that authority..
there is something wrong about this...
didn't Huey Lewis and the News say that Hip to be Square
I still, don't know for the life of me how tv network X can charge advertiser Y for some show when for all they all know, when the commercials come on, people could be browsing the web on their laptop(or any portable device), taking a nap, putting it on mute, changing channels, taking a dump, cooking in the other room or *gasp*, it was recorded and people skipped your silly commercials completely. It seems to me the advertisers would have already woken up.
"Apparently splitting the teams geographically forced more conversations among the team about what the client really wanted. Being forced to explain to the developers in India each day what the client wanted helped everyone get clearer and so the teams as a whole tend to become more productive."
How much more productive would they be if they were all in the same building, forcing less conversations via phone in different timezones, when they could have been writing software instead. If you need confirmation on clients needs going down the hall for 5 mins wastes a whole lot less time putting together the whole team for a phone call, calling india and a 5 mins talk turns into 30.
straight from the submittors mouth....i didnt write that part - they changed up my initial submission some, including the links but they totally added the database part -