There is a way to fight of spam, with a p2p like system!
You first have to get rid of the 'blacklists' idea to detect spam. As already mentioned by many people, they have downsides and moreover in a p2p net there is no 'authority' and so they could do anything, but noithing what is intended.
You even have to forget about all 'traditional' ways to identify a certain mail to be spam. A p2p is the most powerful tool against spam, I can imagine. It offers the strongest method to detact spam, because only a _network_ and distributed computing offers the possibility to reveal information unique with spam.
Unique to spam is that a huge amount of mails are sent over the net in 'short' time, with almost identical (i.e. identical in parts of the content, not header fields) content.
If we get to know, that many mails with almost identical content are sent over the net in a short time, than we know, that spam is going on. and viola, spam>/dev/null
0. If the sender is on the whitelist, the mail is treatened normaly! (To avoid declaring mailinglist, newsleters and the like to spam, if they are not.)
1. We need to use common p2p technology to inter connnect mailservers, relays and mailclients.
2. When revieving a mail it gets queued in a verification queue.
3. For each mail in this queue, checksums of different parts of the mail are calculated. This 'checksum-sets' of received mails are stored and keept for some time. (Let's call that, the mail servers own checksums)
4. The checksum-set ist sent out to a handfull other participants on this p2p for 'confirmation'.
5. If such a 'confirmation' request is received, the checksum-set is stored too. (For a shorer time)
6. All checksum-sets (the own ones an the ones from _different_ hosts requesting 'confirmation' are now compared to each other using Bayesian statistical approach.
7. If to checksum-sets indicate a very similar, both checksums-sets get bundeled together and sent out as an 'alert notification' to all hosts connected. (The host IP's recieving such a mail are very important to avoid checking one hosts copies of his checksum-set temporarily stored on other servers!)
8. When receiving an 'alert notification' the mailserver checks similarity against all checksum sets, he has stored. If further similarities are detected, the are added to this 'alert notification' and again sent out to all connected machines.
9. Once the a 'alert notification' reaches a critical number of 'host' that received such a mail, they sent this package to all of these hosts and theyl delete the mail. (Of course this 'alert notification' will not be deleted, it will, again, be stored for further checks, as a 'spam notification'. (Mailservers that recive such spam mail some time later, should not start the whole process all over, since spamcase is already clear. Of course they'll receive this 'alert notification' withn an indicator, that all included hosts have already received this package.
10. The mails that 'survive' for more than an hour in the veryfication-queue are valid and leave the queue.
11. We're done with it.
The critical number should not be high enough, to avoid droping mails with multiple receipents or 'false positives'.
(Maybee I have forgotten one or the other detail, but I hope you can understand the priciple... and forgive my bad english and orthography, it's not my native language.)... remember me, to patent this thing.
Oh, they once selled us walkmans, we where able to hear out tapes anywhere at any time. We got used to it and we liked it, very much.
But, who did you buy music-tapes? Of course, we bought music on vinyl, it had the better quality and taped it. There is nothing criminal with it!
We like to hear music anywhere at any time, with any device we are comfortable with! That's all and I belive, we have the RIGHT to do so!
That's why people like mp3, they can play it any time and anywhere on any device they like. At least, this is the most important reason for me.
I don't mind paying for the things I consume if the price is right and I can live with the fact to not consume things that are to expensive. Anyway, Caviar tastes that bad, I would not even consume it for free!
But times have changed, I think. Obviously in these days companies can no longer earn good money, if they sell things that fullfill their customers interessts.
A company that can set standards, can earn big money with it. It's not even a matter of quality with this standard.
Read carefully, Intel sets this standard together with Sony! Intel provides the technology, Sony the devices... and of course Sony Music will provide you with their DRM-Music... not to mention, that other recording companies will follow this standard imidiatly.
For costomers the coices are limited. You'll want to buy CD's or DVD's in your store? Well, they are all for DRM now. So either you don't buy them, or you are _forced_ to use DRM.
What, you don't buy CD's? You are discoverd, you must be a criminal!
Somebody here pointed out, that DRM is also good to prevent the execution of unwanted programs like viruses and worms. Good point, but a short question, what are these unwanted programs? Who will be in the position to decide what programs are allowed?
Whoever that will be, will have total control of what you can do with your computer! You fool, go and read a little about about the FSF and YOUR FREEDOM TO RUN THE PROGRAMS YOU LIKE!
DRM will defnitly restrict our rights to use what I have paid for. I'll only have the right to use the copyrighted material, for what I'll have paid in certain places, i.e. at home?
Sure, we won't even be able to lend our DVD, CD or even digital books to some else! And they will tell us 'Come on, that won't hurt you!'.
Hm, right, it does not hurt us.
Ok, we'll just have to buy more music, to have enough to have a party, cause noone can bring his CD's... and this is good, because these companies then will have more money to develop a lot more of all these good technologies, that bring us so much advantages!
What else it will restrict? It does not matter, the big companies will learn how to use it to control YOU!
DRM is watching YOU!
George Orwell will turn in his grave!
I can't resist here... spread his word, spread George Orwells word all over the world.
His words are worth more than millions of dollars, but spread his word for free, regardless of any copyrights!
I would assume, this technology is good for nothing more than sharewhere! You can use it for free with some restrictions (@home) and if you pay the full price, i can use it unrestricded (everywhere) !?
Isn't it that what we want and need? Sure, but it is not what we'll get!
The whole story about copyright arises one big question to me:
When will the time come, where I'll be a criminal when shareing copyrighted material with my friends?
Foo: What? It the time has already come?
Hell I've had a party last month and more than five dozend friends of mine listened to my CD's the whole night long. This where more than 100 songs... what a 150.000$ each song, wow!
Bar: Ah no, calm down, it's just if you COPY the songs!
Foo: Puh!
Foo: FCUK I have made a video-recording of the whole party and already it to all them, including the people that haven't time to ocme!
Bar: Harhar, a 15m$ Party.. what a decadent excess! You are so crazy!
Ok, now serious again. Some people said, if the vol
Don't misunderstand this, but the redistribution of kiddy porn is a minor problem and tracking down people distributing it does not realy help much. The real big problem is the PRODUCTION of these things and regulation/monitoring on the net would have to be realy orwellian like, to help fighting the root of the problem for your example.
Are you willing to give up (almost) all of your privacy, to help in a successful fight against kiddy porn, that solves this problem in its root?
Wait till the end of month, that's the deadline for MS to react and hopefulle the EU makes a decision then.
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IBM quitting OS/2 has just cost us europeans about 10 to 15 years to become independent from M$. (Oh, do I suspect some american conspiration, here to uphold european dependency?;)
But, don't worry Linux can't be quit by any means and it *will* bring independancy and freedom to the whole world!
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After all, only the German government needs a tax tracking system that incorporates their rules and laws.
Exactly, that is a very good reason, to use free software to reduce cost!
Every government has different laws and rules, but the principles of these laws and rules are common in every country.
Therefore, it is much more expensive, when each contry hires a different proprietary company to develop their own specific software, than to share the "common ground". Theirfore, the common ground can be (or in some cases already is) developed as open source and the specific national (buisness-) rules will/could be developed by each country, with their own governmental programmers.
Of course, if all countries hired the same company develope their software, the effect would be the same, but every government would be dependent on that single company then and that's something governments will avoid!
Software for governments and authorities is not so different from buisness software and development cost can be reduced significant.
Compare it to an ERP system, the same base-system for all companies, but with a different implementation of their specific buisinessruls for each single company.
Who cares about the law in this case? So if people don't care about the law, where is the difference to anarchy?
I.e. it is a situation where there actualy is no law (yes, I belive that an unaccepted law, is the same as no law!) and many people like it this way and don't want to change it.
No filesharer needs a new or changed don't "law", since the won't accept any law and continue sharing music, as everyone did, since recording audio was possible at home (i.e. tape-recorders).
The it's RIAA who is in need of new laws and methodes to enforce "their" law!
But there is nothing that will stop fileshare, since people won't accept any such law.
The only viable solution seems like having levies on recordable CD media, and devices or your internet connection. (Like in Cannada and Germany, where this model works pretty good and everyone can accept it.)
Americans tend to see themselves in the center of the world... look, the earth is not the center of the universe, as americans are not the center of the world, at least not reagarding Linux development and not with Linux users!
Look here where the developers come from:
http://www.debian.org/devel/developers.loc.en.html
and look here, where Linux users live (compared to the toatal population of the country)
http://counter.li.org/reports/short.php?orderby=us erdensity#table
Slashdot Mirror
Wise man say: Never touch a running system.
But that's a total different story
Here we are talking about some new things, i.e. _not_ running things, but things that we _want_ to be running some day.
You wouldn't even run Linux at all, if nobody ever considered testing and using new releases
There is a way to fight of spam, with a p2p like system!
You first have to get rid of the 'blacklists' idea to detect spam. As already mentioned by many people, they have downsides and moreover in a p2p net there is no 'authority' and so they could do anything, but noithing what is intended.
You even have to forget about all 'traditional' ways to identify a certain mail to be spam.
A p2p is the most powerful tool against spam, I can imagine. It offers the strongest method to detact spam, because only a _network_ and distributed computing offers the possibility to reveal information unique with spam.
Unique to spam is that a huge amount of mails are sent over the net in 'short' time, with almost identical (i.e. identical in parts of the content, not header fields) content.
If we get to know, that many mails with almost identical content are sent over the net in a short time, than we know, that spam is going on. and viola, spam>/dev/null
0. If the sender is on the whitelist, the mail is treatened normaly! (To avoid declaring mailinglist, newsleters and the like to spam, if they are not.)
1. We need to use common p2p technology to inter connnect mailservers, relays and mailclients.
2. When revieving a mail it gets queued in a verification queue.
3. For each mail in this queue, checksums of different parts of the mail are calculated. This 'checksum-sets' of received mails are stored and keept for some time. (Let's call that, the mail servers own checksums)
4. The checksum-set ist sent out to a handfull other participants on this p2p for 'confirmation'.
5. If such a 'confirmation' request is received, the checksum-set is stored too. (For a shorer time)
6. All checksum-sets (the own ones an the ones from _different_ hosts requesting 'confirmation' are now compared to each other using Bayesian statistical approach.
7. If to checksum-sets indicate a very similar, both checksums-sets get bundeled together and sent out as an 'alert notification' to all hosts connected. (The host IP's recieving such a mail are very important to avoid checking one hosts copies of his checksum-set temporarily stored on other servers!)
8. When receiving an 'alert notification' the mailserver checks similarity against all checksum sets, he has stored. If further similarities are detected, the are added to this 'alert notification' and again sent out to all connected machines.
9. Once the a 'alert notification' reaches a critical number of 'host' that received such a mail, they sent this package to all of these hosts and theyl delete the mail. (Of course this 'alert notification' will not be deleted, it will, again, be stored for further checks, as a 'spam notification'. (Mailservers that recive such spam mail some time later, should not start the whole process all over, since spamcase is already clear. Of course they'll receive this 'alert notification' withn an indicator, that all included hosts have already received this package.
10. The mails that 'survive' for more than an hour in the veryfication-queue are valid and leave the queue.
11. We're done with it.
The critical number should not be high enough, to avoid droping mails with multiple receipents or 'false positives'.
(Maybee I have forgotten one or the other detail, but I hope you can understand the priciple
Oh, they once selled us walkmans, we where able to hear out tapes anywhere at any time. We got used to it and we liked it, very much. But, who did you buy music-tapes? Of course, we bought music on vinyl, it had the better quality and taped it. There is nothing criminal with it! We like to hear music anywhere at any time, with any device we are comfortable with! That's all and I belive, we have the RIGHT to do so! That's why people like mp3, they can play it any time and anywhere on any device they like. At least, this is the most important reason for me. I don't mind paying for the things I consume if the price is right and I can live with the fact to not consume things that are to expensive. Anyway, Caviar tastes that bad, I would not even consume it for free! But times have changed, I think. Obviously in these days companies can no longer earn good money, if they sell things that fullfill their customers interessts. A company that can set standards, can earn big money with it. It's not even a matter of quality with this standard. Read carefully, Intel sets this standard together with Sony! Intel provides the technology, Sony the devices ... and of course Sony Music will provide you with their DRM-Music ... not to mention, that other recording companies will follow this standard imidiatly.
For costomers the coices are limited. You'll want to buy CD's or DVD's in your store? Well, they are all for DRM now. So either you don't buy them, or you are _forced_ to use DRM.
What, you don't buy CD's? You are discoverd, you must be a criminal!
Somebody here pointed out, that DRM is also good to prevent the execution of unwanted programs like viruses and worms. Good point, but a short question, what are these unwanted programs? Who will be in the position to decide what programs are allowed?
Whoever that will be, will have total control of what you can do with your computer! You fool, go and read a little about about the FSF and YOUR FREEDOM TO RUN THE PROGRAMS YOU LIKE!
DRM will defnitly restrict our rights to use what I have paid for. I'll only have the right to use the copyrighted material, for what I'll have paid in certain places, i.e. at home?
Sure, we won't even be able to lend our DVD, CD or even digital books to some else! And they will tell us 'Come on, that won't hurt you!'.
Hm, right, it does not hurt us.
Ok, we'll just have to buy more music, to have enough to have a party, cause noone can bring his CD's ... and this is good, because these companies then will have more money to develop a lot more of all these good technologies, that bring us so much advantages!
What else it will restrict? It does not matter, the big companies will learn how to use it to control YOU!
DRM is watching YOU!
George Orwell will turn in his grave!
I can't resist here ... spread his word, spread George Orwells word all over the world.
His words are worth more than millions of dollars, but spread his word for free, regardless of any copyrights!
I would assume, this technology is good for nothing more than sharewhere! You can use it for free with some restrictions (@home) and if you pay the full price, i can use it unrestricded (everywhere) !?
Isn't it that what we want and need? Sure, but it is not what we'll get!
The whole story about copyright arises one big question to me:
When will the time come, where I'll be a criminal when shareing copyrighted material with my friends?
Foo: What? It the time has already come?
Hell I've had a party last month and more than five dozend friends of mine listened to my CD's the whole night long. This where more than 100 songs ... what a 150.000$ each song, wow!
Bar: Ah no, calm down, it's just if you COPY the songs!
Foo: Puh!
Foo: FCUK I have made a video-recording of the whole party and already it to all them, including the people that haven't time to ocme!
Bar: Harhar, a 15m$ Party .. what a decadent excess! You are so crazy!
Ok, now serious again. Some people said, if the vol
Don't misunderstand this, but the redistribution of kiddy porn is a minor problem and tracking down people distributing it does not realy help much.
The real big problem is the PRODUCTION of these things and regulation/monitoring on the net would have to be realy orwellian like, to help fighting the root of the problem for your example.
Are you willing to give up (almost) all of your privacy, to help in a successful fight against kiddy porn, that solves this problem in its root?
It is very difficult to find the right balance!
EU is somewhat slow with most things ...
Wait till the end of month, that's the deadline for MS to react and hopefulle the EU makes a decision then.
IBM quitting OS/2 has just cost us europeans about 10 to 15 years to become independent from M$.
(Oh, do I suspect some american conspiration, here to uphold european dependency?
But, don't worry Linux can't be quit by any means and it *will* bring independancy and freedom to the whole world!
After all, only the German government needs a tax tracking system that incorporates their rules and laws. Exactly, that is a very good reason, to use free software to reduce cost! Every government has different laws and rules, but the principles of these laws and rules are common in every country. Therefore, it is much more expensive, when each contry hires a different proprietary company to develop their own specific software, than to share the "common ground". Theirfore, the common ground can be (or in some cases already is) developed as open source and the specific national (buisness-) rules will/could be developed by each country, with their own governmental programmers. Of course, if all countries hired the same company develope their software, the effect would be the same, but every government would be dependent on that single company then and that's something governments will avoid! Software for governments and authorities is not so different from buisness software and development cost can be reduced significant. Compare it to an ERP system, the same base-system for all companies, but with a different implementation of their specific buisinessruls for each single company.
Do we need to have a licence to use WinATM ?
Oh, i can't find the ctrl+alt+cash keys !?
How do we deal with al these "Are you sure
Start->Programs->MS Money?
I already read it and will not pay you!
They can't stop filesharing.
They have to be much more creative with their ways to earn money!
Who cares about the law in this case? So if people don't care about the law, where is the difference to anarchy? I.e. it is a situation where there actualy is no law (yes, I belive that an unaccepted law, is the same as no law!) and many people like it this way and don't want to change it. No filesharer needs a new or changed don't "law", since the won't accept any law and continue sharing music, as everyone did, since recording audio was possible at home (i.e. tape-recorders). The it's RIAA who is in need of new laws and methodes to enforce "their" law! But there is nothing that will stop fileshare, since people won't accept any such law. The only viable solution seems like having levies on recordable CD media, and devices or your internet connection. (Like in Cannada and Germany, where this model works pretty good and everyone can accept it.)
They are going to take even the las buck out of 20% of the population, anyway
Americans tend to see themselves in the center of the world ... look, the earth is not the center of the universe, as americans are not the center of the world, at least not reagarding Linux development and not with Linux users!
Look here where the developers come from:
http://www.debian.org/devel/developers.loc.en.html
and look here, where Linux users live (compared to the toatal population of the country)
http://counter.li.org/reports/short.php?orderby=us erdensity#table