Why do you keep arguing like this is a likely scenario when it simply is not, are you trying to troll or just live up to your/. handle?
First of all, people who have different opinions than you are not trolling or dumbasses. They, as in this case, could very well have more information than you or simply hold differing opinions concerning the information available. Contrary to what your mom may have told you, you are not the smartest person in the world, you likely are not even the smartest person in the room most of the time. The world does not materialize as you will it too so please stop with this bullshit of attacking the messenger when the message is not what you want. Had you pulled this crap in any high school debating course, you would have flunked out quickly. So even if you think I am wrong, present the case and leave the bullshit for third grade recess.
You just provided my point for me, probably without realization. In order for a terrorist to get into the US, they are going to have to pass through numerous countries which don't want infected populations and do screen passengers deemed a threat.
I did not make your point at all. Drugs of abuse which are illegal in the US, Canada, and Mexico all find their way from other countries and into those countries. What is so magical about a capsule sized container that could be shoved in various body holes before passing through those other countries and into one of the ones mentioned? And who says those other countries would even have to know about the end intentions or the infectious disease before they pass through them? Are you suggesting that they know all about those illegal drugs that pass through them on their way to the US?
Mohamar is not going to be entering Sweden (for one example) with a bottle of bioweapons. He's probably not going to try and carry it through Felluja air port for that matter, because he has a high chance of getting caught there also. So he chugs his juice before leaving the shed and heads out. 2 days later when he arrives in Mexico city, he's sick as a dog and quarantined
Actually, for something like the plague, you can find it in the wild in some countries. In the US Midwest, it thrives quite well. One of the articles supposedly on the laptop was how to weaponize the plague. It could be that Hohamar doesn't need to travel with the plague at all until he is ready to fuck shit up. So Mohamar's brother gets a hold of this wild plague, creates a bio-weapon from it in Mexico or Canada or even in Iraq/Afghanistan and ships it with a load of heroine destined for the US and Canada (which seems to have less of a problem getting here than the illegal aliens currently strolling across the borders), Mohamer and 40 of his buds make their way to the Canada or Mexico either with their American or UK passports or even by being smuggled in with another batch of heroine, infect themselves and its on.
I'm really not sure why you seem to think they would be traveling under their real identities, through real airports and declaring their bio weapons at the customs counter when there are so many avenues for alternatives already in place and available via the drug and human trafficking trades.
Even in the unlikely event that they make it into the US within 2 days, where are they going to be able to travel and infect? Houston? Dallas? They are not making it out of either of those airports.
With a car and perhaps an accomplice in the states, from the Texas border, you can be in any city inside the continental US within 2 days. They can hit Atlanta, Cincinnati, Columbus Ohio, Philadelphia, NYC, Boston Seattle, LA, San Fransisco, Vegas, ANY CITY IN THE 48 STATES.
But that is just where they could go before symptoms show. If they are in a car being driven by an accomplice, they can hide their symptoms and operate until the disease consumes them or t
Those mean absolutely nothing. Nixon was never impeached, those article were never voted on by congress iutside of commity and the entire reason anyone knew about it was specifically because the IRS said no to him when he tried to do it. That was only brough in to pile on after the defying congress part with watergate.
What happened was that nixon tried to use the IRS and they said no then told congress. You are wrong on both accounts- no political audits happenned and Nixon was never impeached. There is a difference between trying or wanting to do something and actually doing it.
I imagine they would infect themselves and then travel to places making sure to come into contact with as many other people as possible. Sort of like slow suicide bombers.
With the plague, someone can rub the crap on themselves, then contact as many doors, people, subways, and so on as possible and hit quite a few of these before symptoms even start showing after 2 to 5 days. Then they can cover the symptoms and go somewhere dirty but hidden to die so rodents and fleas get infected thereby transferring it to even more people.
They can likely do this without ever coming into contact with the TSA/DHS/ATF at all. Our borders are not secure and that fact has been all over the news recently and no one in government seems to be able to do anything about it. So they perfect some plague well enough to kill humans, travel to Canada and Mexico, divide it between 40 or 50 people spread across the border areas (north and south), infect themselves right before coming over legally, and from there, no place in the US cannot be reached within those first two symptom free days.
Wrong. Executive orders are supposed to be used when there is ambiguity in a law, when congress defers power to the administration, or where the constitution already gives the administration powers.
Executive orders are not I am King orders and without a basis of authorization like mentioned above, they will not survive a challenge in court. Unfortunately, administrations use them somewhat like a proclamation by the king but someone has to have standing in order to get the courts involved.
You can hide folders and files in most operating systems, It's generally a file attribute you set either through a command line argument or the properties dialog in the US.
There have been a couple root-kits that used special characters enveloping the file or folder name which would hide it from the OS and anyone using the OS to look for it. I'm betting it is just the attribute in this case.
Yes it would. Congress wouldn't have the power to make such a broad law over the administration of presidential powers and if a president did so by executive order, the next could simply undo it.
What is needed is judicial review or something to ensure the lawfulness and constitutionality of them if half of congress requests or something. The courts do have original jurisdiction over these issues as they often determine the lawfulness and constitutionality of government.
One of the problems is that a lot of executive orders made seem to be contrary to law and the constitution which is strange seeing how the entire power for them is derived by law and the constitutional obligation to faithfully execute the law.. but who has standing to challenge them.
You had me until you mentioned Nixon. Nixon was never impeached. Why are people going around thinking he was?
And no, Nixon was not going to be impeached for sicking the IRS on people. It was about defying congress in it's investigation surrounding a series of breaking and entering instances by some FBI agents at the Watergate hotel which is where the DNC headquarters was for the next election cycle. The claim was they were trying to gather information on campaign strategy and corrupt the election while all but one of the FBI agents claimed it was to gather evidence on a prostitution ring the DNC was hosting for it's visiting donors. Nixon claimed he knew nothing about it, people close to him said he did, 18 or so minutes from a tape recording supposedly containing evidence that he was told about it and tried to cover up knowing congress subpoenaed it was erased.
Nixon resigned in shame when talks of impeachment started in congress, claiming he was not a crook and Ford Pardoned him. Nothing else was made of it as far as Nixon was concerned.
Sigh.. I know you are trolling but seriously, if any of that was true and illegal, all you would have to do is go see an employment lawyer and it wouldn't happen much longer.
In the last 2 years, I've had approximately 40 hours worth of wages stolen from me by my employer, who refuses to pay them back.
You see, laws were used against Walmart when employees were classified in ways to avoid paying overtime when the law said they deserved it and managers were changing employee time sheets in order to avoid paying overtime and deducting for lunch breaks even though they didn't get them.
My employer refuses to pay his staff for our public holidays, even though the contract and law says he must.
If it is the law, see above, If it is a contract, see above. There are remedies available without necessitating a Union. If you actually have a case, most laws provide that your legal fees be covered as part of the judgement or settlement.
If I had a union none of that would have happened, and he would be facing criminal charges for the wages theft and civil charges for the lack of breaks, mandatory unpaid overtime, and so forth.
Actually, you would likely be in the same boat you are in right now. Either with a fictitious claim or not pursuing any of it until its way too late like you appear to have done already. You not speaking up, you not looking for the right answers is the reason he got away with it. A union is not likely to change that.
As it stands, if I do anything about it by myself, I will find myself unemployable after he puts the bad word out on me, so don't you put that "unions are evil" shit out there without seeing how the world is when they're not around.
And your lawyer simply has someone he does business with check for an employment reference and when it comes back negative, your old employer pays your wages while you look for a new job and cannot find one.
This isn't something new.. It's happened to lots of people and they did something about it. They did it with and without a union.
Nope. Because it is not law. It is how agencies view or interpret an existing law that has some ambiguity to it.
Other presidents have ammended the executive order so in a sense, you could say that even if it was invalidated for reasons like that, those presidents effectivly reinstated it. Now if it is ever found to violate the law or be unconstitutional by a court, it would be invalid.
Facts are facts which is why i took his post as a friendly version of citation needed.
But rumors and truth- i think he was being ironic with that because so many internet truths turn out to be unsubstantiated rumors often completely false too.
Or the people in the planes who where left to chance when all the flight controllers illegally walked out of the air traffic control towers to start a strike.
How this gets forgotten is beyond me. Planes needing to land, needing to know where other planes were so not to hit them were left in the dark.
I'm not so sure terrifying is the word you want. Perhaps horrific instead.
Nagasaki happened when no response could equal it. What would make it terrifying is if the counter punch had the same horrific damage potential which causes a cycle ending only when the world is destroyed or the people capable of dropping the bombs died which would be about the same.
I for one am glad that you did. The site the article calls home purley sucks. I'm on my phone and when you make the text large enough to read, a flash menu and a bunch of social networking crap floods the page so you can only see two words in a line.
Nah. You are correct in strict terms but not in addressing his comment. If one lego brick equals one model, the most you can have is the same number of bricks as models. If it takes two bricks to make one model, you will always have half as many models for bricks even if there are an infinate amount of them.
That was his point, any simulation or model will be tied to the host msking it possible. It will never surpass the host and often be less than.
Actually, quite the contrary. I'm arguing that you get what you paid for and who you paid is not entitled to not give you that or give you less depending on if a third party doesn't pony up in addition.
Consumer reports or whatever doesn't need to be involved at all. I purchase a 12 meg unlimited connection and the ISP simply is not delivering on the goods they sold if they purposely limit it because netflix doesn't purchase a fast lane.
So you rent a car from my compsny and use it to drive to the store once a week and to work every day. So why shouldn't the company you work for have to pay me in addition to your rental?
That is what you just said more or less. The ISP alreadty collects fees for netflix to be on thier network from the end user who subscribe to thrir service. It wouldn't be all that offensive if the service advertised and sold couldn't support netflix and the payment was to enable it, but it clearly can support viewing netflix services but gets restricted based on a third party payment in addition to yours.
It wouldn't really matter who got into the fast lane as long as the advertised speeds of the user is honored. Or in other words, if google pays to go fast, your isp cannot limit your 12meg connection to 5meg just to mske it happen. Any fast lane needs to come from excess capscity.
Did you notice how calmly he said his last words- how studio quality the audio was, and how little blood there was near the body or on fhe jackass who cut the head off?
You probably should think about some foods that do not need refridgeration. You may not have the optiin of ice or even cooling if you experience a disaster. A wind storm knocked the power out in several counties a few years ago. Ice at the store was gone in no time and most of the stores wouldn't restock because their power was out too.
Canned goods, instant rices and stuff are good. Just make sure you have a can opener in your go bag. And make sure your water sources are clean and safe. Think about using canned juices like tomato juice or something instead of water for the instand foods. Even ready to eat canned soups have enough broth for a lot of the dry stuff and it might enhance the flavor too.
It wouldn't be that obvious. What would happen is dome government department would need to get a message out so they will purchade a lot of premium advertising space at thr new premium rates.
SO you would go into a Laundromat and leave your clothes there unattended and popping in and out every so often to change machines?
Here is the deal, or at least how we like to do it in the US. We generally have a set of clothes not fit for every day social interaction but covers everything enough not to be indecent. We put those on and spend a day or a portion of the day doing laundry. But we don't just throw it in a basket and call it done, we fold things, hang things up, match pairs of socks and so on. Most of this can be done in the time it takes for the next load to be finish so you put in 5 hours, have about 4 loads done start to finish and then do whatever.
It seems like that in Europe, you would have to find something to do in between loads and that 5 hours would end up being 10 or more if you didn't have multiple machines.
It doesn't matter where you are. the point was the two are different and not the same- not where you are located at.
But if I have to go to that level of explanation, I do not think it is be possible to ever use logic or reality to change your mind. I guess we are done here.
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First of all, people who have different opinions than you are not trolling or dumbasses. They, as in this case, could very well have more information than you or simply hold differing opinions concerning the information available. Contrary to what your mom may have told you, you are not the smartest person in the world, you likely are not even the smartest person in the room most of the time. The world does not materialize as you will it too so please stop with this bullshit of attacking the messenger when the message is not what you want. Had you pulled this crap in any high school debating course, you would have flunked out quickly. So even if you think I am wrong, present the case and leave the bullshit for third grade recess.
I did not make your point at all. Drugs of abuse which are illegal in the US, Canada, and Mexico all find their way from other countries and into those countries. What is so magical about a capsule sized container that could be shoved in various body holes before passing through those other countries and into one of the ones mentioned? And who says those other countries would even have to know about the end intentions or the infectious disease before they pass through them? Are you suggesting that they know all about those illegal drugs that pass through them on their way to the US?
Actually, for something like the plague, you can find it in the wild in some countries. In the US Midwest, it thrives quite well. One of the articles supposedly on the laptop was how to weaponize the plague. It could be that Hohamar doesn't need to travel with the plague at all until he is ready to fuck shit up. So Mohamar's brother gets a hold of this wild plague, creates a bio-weapon from it in Mexico or Canada or even in Iraq/Afghanistan and ships it with a load of heroine destined for the US and Canada (which seems to have less of a problem getting here than the illegal aliens currently strolling across the borders), Mohamer and 40 of his buds make their way to the Canada or Mexico either with their American or UK passports or even by being smuggled in with another batch of heroine, infect themselves and its on.
I'm really not sure why you seem to think they would be traveling under their real identities, through real airports and declaring their bio weapons at the customs counter when there are so many avenues for alternatives already in place and available via the drug and human trafficking trades.
With a car and perhaps an accomplice in the states, from the Texas border, you can be in any city inside the continental US within 2 days. They can hit Atlanta, Cincinnati, Columbus Ohio, Philadelphia, NYC, Boston Seattle, LA, San Fransisco, Vegas, ANY CITY IN THE 48 STATES.
But that is just where they could go before symptoms show. If they are in a car being driven by an accomplice, they can hide their symptoms and operate until the disease consumes them or t
Those mean absolutely nothing. Nixon was never impeached, those article were never voted on by congress iutside of commity and the entire reason anyone knew about it was specifically because the IRS said no to him when he tried to do it. That was only brough in to pile on after the defying congress part with watergate.
What happened was that nixon tried to use the IRS and they said no then told congress. You are wrong on both accounts- no political audits happenned and Nixon was never impeached. There is a difference between trying or wanting to do something and actually doing it.
Its pretty sad when Nixon had more integrity
Why would they need to get infected first? The TSA and so on are US agencies and only impose their will on flights entering the US.
I imagine they would infect themselves and then travel to places making sure to come into contact with as many other people as possible. Sort of like slow suicide bombers.
With the plague, someone can rub the crap on themselves, then contact as many doors, people, subways, and so on as possible and hit quite a few of these before symptoms even start showing after 2 to 5 days. Then they can cover the symptoms and go somewhere dirty but hidden to die so rodents and fleas get infected thereby transferring it to even more people.
They can likely do this without ever coming into contact with the TSA/DHS/ATF at all. Our borders are not secure and that fact has been all over the news recently and no one in government seems to be able to do anything about it. So they perfect some plague well enough to kill humans, travel to Canada and Mexico, divide it between 40 or 50 people spread across the border areas (north and south), infect themselves right before coming over legally, and from there, no place in the US cannot be reached within those first two symptom free days.
Wrong. Executive orders are supposed to be used when there is ambiguity in a law, when congress defers power to the administration, or where the constitution already gives the administration powers.
Executive orders are not I am King orders and without a basis of authorization like mentioned above, they will not survive a challenge in court. Unfortunately, administrations use them somewhat like a proclamation by the king but someone has to have standing in order to get the courts involved.
You can hide folders and files in most operating systems, It's generally a file attribute you set either through a command line argument or the properties dialog in the US.
There have been a couple root-kits that used special characters enveloping the file or folder name which would hide it from the OS and anyone using the OS to look for it. I'm betting it is just the attribute in this case.
Yes it would. Congress wouldn't have the power to make such a broad law over the administration of presidential powers and if a president did so by executive order, the next could simply undo it.
What is needed is judicial review or something to ensure the lawfulness and constitutionality of them if half of congress requests or something. The courts do have original jurisdiction over these issues as they often determine the lawfulness and constitutionality of government.
One of the problems is that a lot of executive orders made seem to be contrary to law and the constitution which is strange seeing how the entire power for them is derived by law and the constitutional obligation to faithfully execute the law.. but who has standing to challenge them.
You had me until you mentioned Nixon. Nixon was never impeached. Why are people going around thinking he was?
And no, Nixon was not going to be impeached for sicking the IRS on people. It was about defying congress in it's investigation surrounding a series of breaking and entering instances by some FBI agents at the Watergate hotel which is where the DNC headquarters was for the next election cycle. The claim was they were trying to gather information on campaign strategy and corrupt the election while all but one of the FBI agents claimed it was to gather evidence on a prostitution ring the DNC was hosting for it's visiting donors. Nixon claimed he knew nothing about it, people close to him said he did, 18 or so minutes from a tape recording supposedly containing evidence that he was told about it and tried to cover up knowing congress subpoenaed it was erased.
Nixon resigned in shame when talks of impeachment started in congress, claiming he was not a crook and Ford Pardoned him. Nothing else was made of it as far as Nixon was concerned.
Sigh.. I know you are trolling but seriously, if any of that was true and illegal, all you would have to do is go see an employment lawyer and it wouldn't happen much longer.
You see, laws were used against Walmart when employees were classified in ways to avoid paying overtime when the law said they deserved it and managers were changing employee time sheets in order to avoid paying overtime and deducting for lunch breaks even though they didn't get them.
If it is the law, see above, If it is a contract, see above. There are remedies available without necessitating a Union. If you actually have a case, most laws provide that your legal fees be covered as part of the judgement or settlement.
Actually, you would likely be in the same boat you are in right now. Either with a fictitious claim or not pursuing any of it until its way too late like you appear to have done already. You not speaking up, you not looking for the right answers is the reason he got away with it. A union is not likely to change that.
And your lawyer simply has someone he does business with check for an employment reference and when it comes back negative, your old employer pays your wages while you look for a new job and cannot find one.
This isn't something new.. It's happened to lots of people and they did something about it. They did it with and without a union.
Nope. Because it is not law. It is how agencies view or interpret an existing law that has some ambiguity to it.
Other presidents have ammended the executive order so in a sense, you could say that even if it was invalidated for reasons like that, those presidents effectivly reinstated it. Now if it is ever found to violate the law or be unconstitutional by a court, it would be invalid.
Facts are facts which is why i took his post as a friendly version of citation needed.
But rumors and truth- i think he was being ironic with that because so many internet truths turn out to be unsubstantiated rumors often completely false too.
Or the people in the planes who where left to chance when all the flight controllers illegally walked out of the air traffic control towers to start a strike.
How this gets forgotten is beyond me. Planes needing to land, needing to know where other planes were so not to hit them were left in the dark.
I'm not so sure terrifying is the word you want. Perhaps horrific instead.
Nagasaki happened when no response could equal it. What would make it terrifying is if the counter punch had the same horrific damage potential which causes a cycle ending only when the world is destroyed or the people capable of dropping the bombs died which would be about the same.
I for one am glad that you did. The site the article calls home purley sucks. I'm on my phone and when you make the text large enough to read, a flash menu and a bunch of social networking crap floods the page so you can only see two words in a line.
Nah. You are correct in strict terms but not in addressing his comment. If one lego brick equals one model, the most you can have is the same number of bricks as models. If it takes two bricks to make one model, you will always have half as many models for bricks even if there are an infinate amount of them.
That was his point, any simulation or model will be tied to the host msking it possible. It will never surpass the host and often be less than.
Do you even know what you are talking about?
What he mentioned about google fiber is the epitome of free market.
Actually, quite the contrary. I'm arguing that you get what you paid for and who you paid is not entitled to not give you that or give you less depending on if a third party doesn't pony up in addition.
Consumer reports or whatever doesn't need to be involved at all. I purchase a 12 meg unlimited connection and the ISP simply is not delivering on the goods they sold if they purposely limit it because netflix doesn't purchase a fast lane.
I think you are proving his point.
How long have you been a tea party member?
So you rent a car from my compsny and use it to drive to the store once a week and to work every day. So why shouldn't the company you work for have to pay me in addition to your rental?
That is what you just said more or less. The ISP alreadty collects fees for netflix to be on thier network from the end user who subscribe to thrir service. It wouldn't be all that offensive if the service advertised and sold couldn't support netflix and the payment was to enable it, but it clearly can support viewing netflix services but gets restricted based on a third party payment in addition to yours.
It wouldn't really matter who got into the fast lane as long as the advertised speeds of the user is honored. Or in other words, if google pays to go fast, your isp cannot limit your 12meg connection to 5meg just to mske it happen. Any fast lane needs to come from excess capscity.
Did you notice how calmly he said his last words- how studio quality the audio was, and how little blood there was near the body or on fhe jackass who cut the head off?
They are getting really good and efficient at it.
You probably should think about some foods that do not need refridgeration. You may not have the optiin of ice or even cooling if you experience a disaster. A wind storm knocked the power out in several counties a few years ago. Ice at the store was gone in no time and most of the stores wouldn't restock because their power was out too.
Canned goods, instant rices and stuff are good. Just make sure you have a can opener in your go bag. And make sure your water sources are clean and safe. Think about using canned juices like tomato juice or something instead of water for the instand foods. Even ready to eat canned soups have enough broth for a lot of the dry stuff and it might enhance the flavor too.
It wouldn't be that obvious. What would happen is dome government department would need to get a message out so they will purchade a lot of premium advertising space at thr new premium rates.
The public would never know.
SO you would go into a Laundromat and leave your clothes there unattended and popping in and out every so often to change machines?
Here is the deal, or at least how we like to do it in the US. We generally have a set of clothes not fit for every day social interaction but covers everything enough not to be indecent. We put those on and spend a day or a portion of the day doing laundry. But we don't just throw it in a basket and call it done, we fold things, hang things up, match pairs of socks and so on. Most of this can be done in the time it takes for the next load to be finish so you put in 5 hours, have about 4 loads done start to finish and then do whatever.
It seems like that in Europe, you would have to find something to do in between loads and that 5 hours would end up being 10 or more if you didn't have multiple machines.
It doesn't matter where you are. the point was the two are different and not the same- not where you are located at.
But if I have to go to that level of explanation, I do not think it is be possible to ever use logic or reality to change your mind. I guess we are done here.