As for the "train wreck"You sir do not know what you are talking about.None of what you say is true.Which makes your chosen name appropriate.Obamacare didn't cost jobs, employers did.Obamacare didnt cause cuts in hours, employers did.Obamacare didnt cause hiring freezes, or lost coverage, employers did.Obamacare also does NOT cut medicaire.These are all republican lies.
and the sun doesn't rise and set because of the rotation of the earth, it because the rooster calls to it.
They are claiming they are doing it because of obamacare. The reason they can do it is because of obamacare.
As for the "train wreck"
so you know it was a democrat that said it was a train wreck. Here is a hint that might help you from looking like a rabid idiot. Don't read more into what was posted then what was posted. Even if all the name calling you jumped to in the top of your post is true, the entie world understands tou still need to move up in order to be my equal. You post provs that much. Know go troll somewhere else.
The email question was to show the servers are not down. An automated reply would validate the fact the site is down is little more then sensationalism.
Lol. You are quick with the name calling when you cannot even tell the difference between spending nothing and spending less. Please go back to navel gazing and leave the talking to the grown ups
You might have a point if congress wasn't a democratically elected body with the specific duty to legislate and advocate for those that elected them.
What you are trying to do is equate cops and snow skiers with bank robbers only becauee thry might have a mask or a gun. Of course yhe problem is that they are supposed to have them.
WTF has happened to thr critical thinking abilities on this site?
From what i have been able to tell, you are in the minority. The CBO and obama himself has stated the majority of coverage plans will increase in cost. The biggest problem is that family coverage which was largely covered by the employer are having to take on the costs the employer used to pay.
As for using the emergency room for the sniffles, you are still subsidising it because they will continue to do it. Go to any emergency room after 5pm and you will find medicaid people there because the clinic or doctors office is closed. These ae people who lack planning and/or respect for money. I took a guy to the er after a siezure and had some girl hit on me who was there for a bee sting. I have other stupid anecdotal evidence of this crap too.
No, i belong in the "lets not harm people because ideology is more important than the person" school of thought.
If you look, i didn't say i supported the shutdown, i said the ac's malice is misappropriated. The same buning villages argument can be made about keeping obamacare intact. That is the problem with putting ideology over the people.
Or, they are desparately trying to avoid hurting the people. Obamacare has already cost people with cuts in hours, lost coverage, and hiring freezes.
Btw, the train wreck comment came from a democrat who sponsored obamacare, not a republican. I'm also surprized you mentiond medicare as obamacare cuts it and dumps quite a lot of seniors over to private insurance that they have to pay for. I guess privatizing medicare is ok after all?
Bullshit. The reason is because the senate has 6 year terms. Obama was elected because the republicans put up a poor candidates against him. I mean seriously, mccain the maveric who campained with "you will never know what i"l do" and "47 percent of you don't mater" romney would have lost to al gore given the chance.
I was under the impresion that back pay for shutdowns were part of the federal employes union contract. I was told it was put in back in the 80s after a shutdown.
If that is the case, then only contractors are in question.
Lasers have traditionally been left out of battle as an arm because the way they melt to kill instead of killing. Imagine an enemy who first goes blind then has his skin melt off while his blood starts boiling and if he is lucky, finally death. Now with something like this, that migt happen quicker than it would take for a bullet to kill but that might have been spread over 5, 10 minutes or more
But i think if it would be used that it still wouldn't be a killing device as much as a tool to destroy whatever the cover the enemy was hiding behind. Imagine an ambush, you are pinned down with the enemy well protected and you can cut that protection away making them retreat or being exposed. If they die in the process, well war is hell i guess.
The damn spellcheck on this phone doesn't work in the sladhdot box
He brought an alternative timeline in the New Star Trek (two spok's and all that) which means it doesn't have to stick to the original or be loyal to mythology around it.
I have only seen the original too. But I saw where it was setting up the ability run off in any direction it wanted to. From what other people have told me, the other movie has taken advantage of that. Imagine a prequil that can ignore the future that has already happened. But it gets pretty stupid in the process. A better critique can be found here with a lot of spoiler information and a jackass who doesn't like the movie at all it seems.
I know it was sarcasm. Couldn't you sense my rhetorical BS in attempting to deal with it? Feel free to look that up too.
First off, I wasn't actually likening Canada and Norway to hellholes. That's called sarcasm, and I don't have a lot of time to go into detail about it here, so feel free to look it up yourself. Suffice it to say, the point of this sarcasm of mine is that Canada and Norway are actually very far from communist dictatorships.
And what has that to do with my points about Canada and Norway actually providing the services instead of forcing it's citizens to purchase something from a third party? My original point was about what the tea party is pissed over. Your sarcasm couldn't even hit an apples to apples analogy.
As for the second amendment, I'd like to remind you that this is a discussion about health care, not gun rights. I actually quite like the second amendment. I think it's an excellent idea, and quite frankly, lack of access to health care kills a lot more people than private individuals with assault rifles do.
Actually, this is a discussion about the tea party within a topic about healthcare. I think I brought the second amendment up when I schooled the AC who posted BS about the tea party. You simply provided an easy example of illustrating it.
I do believe that government provided health care would be better than relying on private entities as the ACA does, but at this point the ACA is better than nothing. Hopefully we can change that some time in the future.
The ACA is worse then what we previously had. People who had insurance are loosing their coverage or facing steep increases in costs for it. Some employers are refusing to cover spouses now if they work- even of their plan is cheaper or better. People are getting their hours cut in order for the company to get under the requirement to provide coverage (30 hours a week average or more requires coverage). If it hasn't happened already, a large amount of businesses announced they planned to do so. Instead of having 500 full time jobs, we are seeing 700 part time jobs. Union workers are having to take lesser coverage plans or face stiff penalties for their so called Cadillac coverage. Medical devices, you know, the crap that saves you life and allows you to get out of the hospital and live at home now have massive taxes on them driving the cost of health care up. How is that better?
About the only things I can see better about the ACA being law verses it not is the preexisting condition clauses (which I think could be worked a little better), federal minimums on certain types of plans so those plans are available in every state regardless of the state's laws, and the elimination of lifetime caps on coverage payouts. Other then that, it is a disaster hurting more then anything. All of those can be done, including the expansion of medicaid which I didn't list because some states refused to implement it, without the other crap. In fact, I have a few ideas that could completely remove the negative crap about this law without going to a strictly government or single payer institution.
I hope you know that we are in the shape we are with healthcare because government got involved in the first place right? They created the HMO's in an attempt to control the costs of Medicare and screwed it all up in the process.
I don't think this sensor works in the traditional sense that you are familiar with. It is inferring information about a wave from the wave itself as it passes through the air. It actually looks at the medium the wave travels through itself and how the waves interact with it's surroundings not what the waves represent or the information it carries. Think of it more like your surround sound system when you connect a mic in the middle of the sitting area and the speaker timing is adjusted so the sound is centered around that location. Except in this case, it can derive information about the location of the speakers.
Now how this thing supposedly works is not by hearing the sound itself, but measuring the wave itself as it passes through the air. It has two elements on a sensor and three sets of the sensors in one sensor. Both elements of each sensor is heated and when the wave passes, one cools more then the other and the voltage resistance either increases or drops. This allows precise measurements of the wave and it's form which is then be processed with the other two sensors back to what originally created it. There is also a sound pressure transducer on the sensor that picks up the wave itself. So the one complete sensor actually analyses the sound wave from 4 points of information relatively close and can recreate the entire wave form in a 3 d representation which should infer the point of origin without needing separate sensors to triangulate from.
Think about how a wave flows through the water as you toss a rock into it. Not only does it have height hirer then the surrounding water, but it also radiates out in an arc or circle from where the rock landed. If you look close to the impact, you can see the entire wave and have a pretty accurate idea of the impact sight. If you look further away, you only see parts of the arc of the wave. You can still find the impact site by drawing 90 degree angles from the arc of the wave and where they cross like the spokes on a bicycle wheel, should be the center of origin. That's what this thing does but with a much smaller portion of the wave. It can recreate the entire wave and determine information from it. Or that seems to be the claim.
In this case, if you can determine enough information about a single section of a wave with enough precision to recreate the entire wave in 3d, you can work the arc of the wave and pinpoint where it originated from. If you filter all the waves to a single one specific type or specific like types, you can process those into the sounds that created the waves originally. You can likely do so to a degree better then normal hearing will allow too- as long as the wave from the sound can reach the sensor.
Now what I think might be frightening about this is that if I understand it correctly, all the information about all the waves can be stored and processed later with knowing where the sensor specifically was and all the conversations could possibly be decoded in the future with the locations of the conversations being pinpointed. What this might mean is, with enough time, the information can be synced with surveillance video that is impossible to pick up all conversations but you can single out on a specific person in the video by referencing their location and listen to the conversation of that location in the room. In other words, someone could use these and not only pick up all the conversations, but store video alongside them so later they can be put with a face or actions of people. Suppose you are at a protest and you tell everyone the cops are on their way, block the streets or stop blocking the streets. All the witnesses don't remember who said what, but not only can they hear it from the sensor, because of the abilities to pinpoint the locations they could locate person and see them from rather crappy videos of the event.
The moderator probably doesn't know what Brazilian waxing is and couldn't put the joke together properly.
Here is a NSFW link explaining it a bit. I'm serious, there are naked women on the page to explain the differences in styles so even though it is wikipedia, you are warned.
Actually, it is far worse then communist dictatorships like Canada or Norway. At least there, the government doesn't rely in third parties for their services.
Canada and Norway do not have constitutions like the US does nor do they have provisions in it guaranteeing the citizens will never have their right to keep and bear arms infringed by the government. But I do find it interesting that you would bring up a couple of other countries who have socialized medicine- calling them communist dictatorships in the process, and those countries have strict gun laws. It would seem they had to disarm their populations first before becoming that hell hole you likened them to.
I can see why you replied as an AC. If i was that intelectually lazy, i wouldn't want anything associating it with my real self either.
Perhaps you could add some real insight to what wasn't true in that post rather then attemp an unsuccessfull ad hominen attack. I know you don't have much to work with, but your effort is less than inteligent or honest. Then again, so is the war on women claims.
Quite now.. let him have his delusions for a bit longer. Companies are laying people off, refusing to offer spousal coverage if they work somewhere, reducing hours of employees to not be forced into providing coverage. Unions are complaining that it increases the costs of their coverage- most of which will have to pay the Cadillac health care taxes, but more importantly, this is going to be so expensive, Obama and the senate democrats worked out a deal where the government slushes money from one department to another in order to cover 75% of the insurance costs for congress and their staff from the exchange.
This is a mess of an ordeal and the only people who like it are the people who seem to think "Insurance" is "health care".
Obviously you have never looked into the issues or spent any time dealing with the tea partiers.
Your description couldn't be farther from the truth. Obama has nothing to do with what they are pissed at other then him currently being the one trying to implement the stuff they are pissed at.
With the Affordable Care Act, you are now obligated to purchase something from a third party simply for being born in America or residing in it. Never before has anything like that ever happened in the US or any so called free country that I know of. After a few shootings, the democrats are trying to take constitutional rights (guns) away from people. Whether you support gun control of not, it doesn't stop shootings, just look at Chicago and DC. They have some of the strongest gun control laws and criminals still get guns and still kill people with them. Just last week, 13 people were shot in Chicago.
Decades from now, people will look back and ask where their freedom went. They will see your post and wonder why everyone thinks they are so smart when they aren't.
Lol.. That's a real funny lie I hear all the time. There is no war on women or poor people. Its a difference in approach about certain things.
Poor people should get a hand up not a hand out. It is more expensive to get a job for the poor right now then it is to stay on welfare and milk the public tit. Of course welfare is the reason why minimum wage is being paid at almost every job in larger cities with large concentrations of poor people. It is the ultimate business subsidy where they do not have to pay their employees a living wage because the government will step in and make up the difference.
The so called war on women is little more then not wanting to use public funds taken from you and me to provide for someone's condoms and abortions.
It makes a good sound bite, it even makes lesser intelligent people believe it. But it is a lie.
The HMO itself has legal protection but not the doctors who did the damage. You might be limited to arbitration depending on the language in the HMO and contract with the provider but that's another story altogether. Malpractice by the doctor is malpractice regardless of who provides the treatment.
HMO's were created by the federal government in order to tame the costs of Medicare which was created shortly before. It gave power to determined covered treatments to secretaries with little medical training or experience based on a "best practices" rule which the ACA is implementing too. With this power to override doctors who are actually seeing the patients, the HMO's were also exempted from law suits based on what they allowed to be covered. So if your doc says we need to perform this expensive experimental procedure that has a 50% success rate to save your leg and the HMO said no, we aren't covering that, cut it off, you can't sue the HMO for not allowing the procedure that could potentially save the leg. But that is the entire purpose of the HMO or Health Maintenance Organization, to control the costs of medical care.
Now it does get dicey when something is accepted practice or best practice now but the HMO hasn't updated their criteria and refuses to allow the procedure. Then a suit can happen to force them to cover it but you will not make any windfall profits from it.
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It is interesting. You claim something is a lie but failed to point what it is. Are you looking into a mirror or something?
You ned to cite that number. I can make shit up too but i choose to let reality guide me.
and the sun doesn't rise and set because of the rotation of the earth, it because the rooster calls to it.
They are claiming they are doing it because of obamacare. The reason they can do it is because of obamacare.
so you know it was a democrat that said it was a train wreck. Here is a hint that might help you from looking like a rabid idiot. Don't read more into what was posted then what was posted. Even if all the name calling you jumped to in the top of your post is true, the entie world understands tou still need to move up in order to be my equal. You post provs that much. Know go troll somewhere else.
The email question was to show the servers are not down. An automated reply would validate the fact the site is down is little more then sensationalism.
Lol. You are quick with the name calling when you cannot even tell the difference between spending nothing and spending less. Please go back to navel gazing and leave the talking to the grown ups
You might have a point if congress wasn't a democratically elected body with the specific duty to legislate and advocate for those that elected them.
What you are trying to do is equate cops and snow skiers with bank robbers only becauee thry might have a mask or a gun. Of course yhe problem is that they are supposed to have them.
WTF has happened to thr critical thinking abilities on this site?
Do you seriously not see any difference between elected officials trying to represent their constituency and you atempting to be an idiot?
From what i have been able to tell, you are in the minority. The CBO and obama himself has stated the majority of coverage plans will increase in cost. The biggest problem is that family coverage which was largely covered by the employer are having to take on the costs the employer used to pay.
As for using the emergency room for the sniffles, you are still subsidising it because they will continue to do it. Go to any emergency room after 5pm and you will find medicaid people there because the clinic or doctors office is closed. These ae people who lack planning and/or respect for money. I took a guy to the er after a siezure and had some girl hit on me who was there for a bee sting. I have other stupid anecdotal evidence of this crap too.
No, i belong in the "lets not harm people because ideology is more important than the person" school of thought.
If you look, i didn't say i supported the shutdown, i said the ac's malice is misappropriated. The same buning villages argument can be made about keeping obamacare intact. That is the problem with putting ideology over the people.
It's up right now serving a page. That is what makes it bs. Send them an email and i bet it doesn't come back undeliveralable.
Most likely, the money had already been spent as some service arangement which is why the sit doesn't bounce an error .
Or, they are desparately trying to avoid hurting the people. Obamacare has already cost people with cuts in hours, lost coverage, and hiring freezes.
Btw, the train wreck comment came from a democrat who sponsored obamacare, not a republican. I'm also surprized you mentiond medicare as obamacare cuts it and dumps quite a lot of seniors over to private insurance that they have to pay for. I guess privatizing medicare is ok after all?
Bullshit. The reason is because the senate has 6 year terms. Obama was elected because the republicans put up a poor candidates against him. I mean seriously, mccain the maveric who campained with "you will never know what i"l do" and "47 percent of you don't mater" romney would have lost to al gore given the chance.
You are making shit excuses.
I was under the impresion that back pay for shutdowns were part of the federal employes union contract. I was told it was put in back in the 80s after a shutdown.
If that is the case, then only contractors are in question.
Lol.. thats complete bullshit. It cost yhem nothing to leave the site as it was...
Maybe they think the people are stupid enough to not know any better
Lasers have traditionally been left out of battle as an arm because the way they melt to kill instead of killing. Imagine an enemy who first goes blind then has his skin melt off while his blood starts boiling and if he is lucky, finally death. Now with something like this, that migt happen quicker than it would take for a bullet to kill but that might have been spread over 5, 10 minutes or more
But i think if it would be used that it still wouldn't be a killing device as much as a tool to destroy whatever the cover the enemy was hiding behind. Imagine an ambush, you are pinned down with the enemy well protected and you can cut that protection away making them retreat or being exposed. If they die in the process, well war is hell i guess.
The damn spellcheck on this phone doesn't work in the sladhdot box
He brought an alternative timeline in the New Star Trek (two spok's and all that) which means it doesn't have to stick to the original or be loyal to mythology around it.
I have only seen the original too. But I saw where it was setting up the ability run off in any direction it wanted to. From what other people have told me, the other movie has taken advantage of that. Imagine a prequil that can ignore the future that has already happened. But it gets pretty stupid in the process. A better critique can be found here with a lot of spoiler information and a jackass who doesn't like the movie at all it seems.
http://io9.com/star-trek-into-darkness-the-spoiler-faq-508927844
I know it was sarcasm. Couldn't you sense my rhetorical BS in attempting to deal with it? Feel free to look that up too.
And what has that to do with my points about Canada and Norway actually providing the services instead of forcing it's citizens to purchase something from a third party? My original point was about what the tea party is pissed over. Your sarcasm couldn't even hit an apples to apples analogy.
Actually, this is a discussion about the tea party within a topic about healthcare. I think I brought the second amendment up when I schooled the AC who posted BS about the tea party. You simply provided an easy example of illustrating it.
The ACA is worse then what we previously had. People who had insurance are loosing their coverage or facing steep increases in costs for it. Some employers are refusing to cover spouses now if they work- even of their plan is cheaper or better. People are getting their hours cut in order for the company to get under the requirement to provide coverage (30 hours a week average or more requires coverage). If it hasn't happened already, a large amount of businesses announced they planned to do so. Instead of having 500 full time jobs, we are seeing 700 part time jobs. Union workers are having to take lesser coverage plans or face stiff penalties for their so called Cadillac coverage. Medical devices, you know, the crap that saves you life and allows you to get out of the hospital and live at home now have massive taxes on them driving the cost of health care up. How is that better?
About the only things I can see better about the ACA being law verses it not is the preexisting condition clauses (which I think could be worked a little better), federal minimums on certain types of plans so those plans are available in every state regardless of the state's laws, and the elimination of lifetime caps on coverage payouts. Other then that, it is a disaster hurting more then anything. All of those can be done, including the expansion of medicaid which I didn't list because some states refused to implement it, without the other crap. In fact, I have a few ideas that could completely remove the negative crap about this law without going to a strictly government or single payer institution.
I hope you know that we are in the shape we are with healthcare because government got involved in the first place right? They created the HMO's in an attempt to control the costs of Medicare and screwed it all up in the process.
I don't think this sensor works in the traditional sense that you are familiar with. It is inferring information about a wave from the wave itself as it passes through the air. It actually looks at the medium the wave travels through itself and how the waves interact with it's surroundings not what the waves represent or the information it carries. Think of it more like your surround sound system when you connect a mic in the middle of the sitting area and the speaker timing is adjusted so the sound is centered around that location. Except in this case, it can derive information about the location of the speakers.
Now how this thing supposedly works is not by hearing the sound itself, but measuring the wave itself as it passes through the air. It has two elements on a sensor and three sets of the sensors in one sensor. Both elements of each sensor is heated and when the wave passes, one cools more then the other and the voltage resistance either increases or drops. This allows precise measurements of the wave and it's form which is then be processed with the other two sensors back to what originally created it. There is also a sound pressure transducer on the sensor that picks up the wave itself. So the one complete sensor actually analyses the sound wave from 4 points of information relatively close and can recreate the entire wave form in a 3 d representation which should infer the point of origin without needing separate sensors to triangulate from.
Think about how a wave flows through the water as you toss a rock into it. Not only does it have height hirer then the surrounding water, but it also radiates out in an arc or circle from where the rock landed. If you look close to the impact, you can see the entire wave and have a pretty accurate idea of the impact sight. If you look further away, you only see parts of the arc of the wave. You can still find the impact site by drawing 90 degree angles from the arc of the wave and where they cross like the spokes on a bicycle wheel, should be the center of origin. That's what this thing does but with a much smaller portion of the wave. It can recreate the entire wave and determine information from it. Or that seems to be the claim.
In this case, if you can determine enough information about a single section of a wave with enough precision to recreate the entire wave in 3d, you can work the arc of the wave and pinpoint where it originated from. If you filter all the waves to a single one specific type or specific like types, you can process those into the sounds that created the waves originally. You can likely do so to a degree better then normal hearing will allow too- as long as the wave from the sound can reach the sensor.
Now what I think might be frightening about this is that if I understand it correctly, all the information about all the waves can be stored and processed later with knowing where the sensor specifically was and all the conversations could possibly be decoded in the future with the locations of the conversations being pinpointed. What this might mean is, with enough time, the information can be synced with surveillance video that is impossible to pick up all conversations but you can single out on a specific person in the video by referencing their location and listen to the conversation of that location in the room. In other words, someone could use these and not only pick up all the conversations, but store video alongside them so later they can be put with a face or actions of people. Suppose you are at a protest and you tell everyone the cops are on their way, block the streets or stop blocking the streets. All the witnesses don't remember who said what, but not only can they hear it from the sensor, because of the abilities to pinpoint the locations they could locate person and see them from rather crappy videos of the event.
The moderator probably doesn't know what Brazilian waxing is and couldn't put the joke together properly.
Here is a NSFW link explaining it a bit. I'm serious, there are naked women on the page to explain the differences in styles so even though it is wikipedia, you are warned.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bikini_waxing
Actually, it is far worse then communist dictatorships like Canada or Norway. At least there, the government doesn't rely in third parties for their services.
Canada and Norway do not have constitutions like the US does nor do they have provisions in it guaranteeing the citizens will never have their right to keep and bear arms infringed by the government. But I do find it interesting that you would bring up a couple of other countries who have socialized medicine- calling them communist dictatorships in the process, and those countries have strict gun laws. It would seem they had to disarm their populations first before becoming that hell hole you likened them to.
I can see why you replied as an AC. If i was that intelectually lazy, i wouldn't want anything associating it with my real self either.
Perhaps you could add some real insight to what wasn't true in that post rather then attemp an unsuccessfull ad hominen attack. I know you don't have much to work with, but your effort is less than inteligent or honest. Then again, so is the war on women claims.
Quite now.. let him have his delusions for a bit longer. Companies are laying people off, refusing to offer spousal coverage if they work somewhere, reducing hours of employees to not be forced into providing coverage. Unions are complaining that it increases the costs of their coverage- most of which will have to pay the Cadillac health care taxes, but more importantly, this is going to be so expensive, Obama and the senate democrats worked out a deal where the government slushes money from one department to another in order to cover 75% of the insurance costs for congress and their staff from the exchange.
This is a mess of an ordeal and the only people who like it are the people who seem to think "Insurance" is "health care".
Obviously you have never looked into the issues or spent any time dealing with the tea partiers.
Your description couldn't be farther from the truth. Obama has nothing to do with what they are pissed at other then him currently being the one trying to implement the stuff they are pissed at.
With the Affordable Care Act, you are now obligated to purchase something from a third party simply for being born in America or residing in it. Never before has anything like that ever happened in the US or any so called free country that I know of. After a few shootings, the democrats are trying to take constitutional rights (guns) away from people. Whether you support gun control of not, it doesn't stop shootings, just look at Chicago and DC. They have some of the strongest gun control laws and criminals still get guns and still kill people with them. Just last week, 13 people were shot in Chicago.
Decades from now, people will look back and ask where their freedom went. They will see your post and wonder why everyone thinks they are so smart when they aren't.
Lol.. That's a real funny lie I hear all the time. There is no war on women or poor people. Its a difference in approach about certain things.
Poor people should get a hand up not a hand out. It is more expensive to get a job for the poor right now then it is to stay on welfare and milk the public tit. Of course welfare is the reason why minimum wage is being paid at almost every job in larger cities with large concentrations of poor people. It is the ultimate business subsidy where they do not have to pay their employees a living wage because the government will step in and make up the difference.
The so called war on women is little more then not wanting to use public funds taken from you and me to provide for someone's condoms and abortions.
It makes a good sound bite, it even makes lesser intelligent people believe it. But it is a lie.
The HMO itself has legal protection but not the doctors who did the damage. You might be limited to arbitration depending on the language in the HMO and contract with the provider but that's another story altogether. Malpractice by the doctor is malpractice regardless of who provides the treatment.
HMO's were created by the federal government in order to tame the costs of Medicare which was created shortly before. It gave power to determined covered treatments to secretaries with little medical training or experience based on a "best practices" rule which the ACA is implementing too. With this power to override doctors who are actually seeing the patients, the HMO's were also exempted from law suits based on what they allowed to be covered. So if your doc says we need to perform this expensive experimental procedure that has a 50% success rate to save your leg and the HMO said no, we aren't covering that, cut it off, you can't sue the HMO for not allowing the procedure that could potentially save the leg. But that is the entire purpose of the HMO or Health Maintenance Organization, to control the costs of medical care.
Now it does get dicey when something is accepted practice or best practice now but the HMO hasn't updated their criteria and refuses to allow the procedure. Then a suit can happen to force them to cover it but you will not make any windfall profits from it.