Why don't you go to the http://www.insaneclownposse.com/, click in the launch player link, and tell us which deity they are afraid to offend? BTW, that's not work safe and probably not family safe either.
It sounds like your comment is mostly out of your own ignorance. The reason why we know the shape of the world, about electricity, and so on is because the magic and wonders captivated someone and they explored them. You know what you know now because people did exactly what this song says, they opened their minds and saw what was going on, they ignored what they were told and explored their own reality. They felt the power of the moment, the miracle of the moment and embraced it. That is why you know what you know today. That is why we know the planets revolve around the sun and not the earth, that is why we know the world isn't flat and you won't fall off it. That is why we know many things we do today.
Stop confusing your fear of religions with this song or what it says. Stop imposing your fear of religion simply because the song uses a few words that religions use. Go ahead and listen to their crap on their website and tell me what religion they are afraid of offending. And if you bring up the dark carnival, then we all will know you are just an idiot who doesn't get the joke.
Perhaps you should take a course on comprehension or something. I postulated two distinct scenarios and said one of them wouldn't get you laid unless you were paying for it. I didn't even mention which one and left you to come to your own conclusions. That in and of itself is not a claim that you can't get laid. What is it does though, is it draws you into admitting the reality of the statements because you got offended when one statement and the result resembled personal experience.
Now- your personal revelation does not make a statement of fact from me. The statement was directed towards you but not at you and the conclusions of the statement was meant to be fulfilled by you. In other words, it was designed so that you would read it, say "hey, that's me" then post about it so the rest of the world will know by your own words.
Go ahead and reread the statement. without you injecting the your own personal experiences and realities into it, it makes no mention of whether or not you can get laid or if you specifically have to pay for it.
originally, the juggalo thing was more or less a way of not fitting in. It's like being a misfit without intentionally looking for trouble and knowing it. It was about knowing there where others like you but who like you didn't want to fall into a specific click. Juggalos pretty much did whatever they wanted and didn't subscribe to any creed other then do your own thing and listen to ICP and were generally the people society kicked to the side because they weren't pretty enough or didn't follow some certain belief or had the shit jobs or whatever. Many of the Juggalos have moved up in life as they got older but still claim on to the juggalo deal. The whole idea was that people didn't take them serious, they treated them like clowns- so along comes the insane clown posse who didn't ignore them. Their songs more or less make fun of other music genres and people in general which is probably why they are hated so much. Of course there are some that are just music- or seems that way. Most of their songs pretty much suck unless you get the inside joke behind them. Maybe they are just so bland that you can superimpose your own inside joke on them.
I'm not sure if it's the same now or not. I never was a juggalo but know people who were/are.
Anyways, I don't think they came out as Christian- If they did they have a funny way of showing it. There was a long running joke about purgatory but that was a joke. Go to their website and check out some of their music samplers-. Especially check out the Bang! Pow! Boom! selection (their newest album 2009). I warn you, it isn't work or family safe. In fact, I think it would get you thrown out of church as fast as they can grab you if you were to listen to it there. I think the Bang! Pow! Boom! selection is the first one by default if you click on the launch music player link. Check out the juggalo homies song too, it sort of describes the juggalos.
Lighten up Francis. I'll say it again, since you missed it the first time.
I guess I'm imposing much of the other replies I have read in with your comments. A lot of them are making claims about pushing bibles and crap like that because the song mentioned miracles and shit. It's getting really frustrating when someone makes a claim that is only supported in their head. I guess maybe I was getting a little short with you for no reason.
What do I need to smoke to understand this line?:p Maybe you need to relax and not bang the keyboard blindly. If it's a line from the song, I apologize for attributing it to you.
The ICP have some BS where they attempt to talk in rhymes. In the movie, "big money hustlers" they even made fun of it when the star or main charactor is bummed out and all drugged up. It's sort of rap thing or something, I'm not sure because I'm not really into them.
Anyways, in the song, it the lines go:
I see miracles all around me
Stop and look around, it's all astounding
Water, fire, air and dirt
Fucking magnets, how do they work?
And I don't wanna talk to a scientist
Y'all motherfuckers lying, and getting me pissed
Solar eclipse, and vicious weather
Fifteen thousand Juggalos together
What I was commenting on was the around me rhyming with astounding- dirt and work- scientist and pissed- weather and together. Every line seems to have to rhyme and I'm probably sure that the line fucking magnets, how do they work was to get a rhyme with Water, Fire, Air and Dirt. The line about scient-ists and pissed are the same.
Evidently, the message isn't all that clear. The message is more of open your mind, and don't stop enjoying the mysteries and things around you. It's that there are magical moments you don't want to get lost in the details of.
It's not about not learning or anything of the sort. It's about the possibilities and wonders associated with them. For instance, it mentions the pyramids, we know about when they were built, we think we know how and by whom, we know what they were used for, but they are still one of the wonders of the world and for good reason. Take the part about a child's imagination for instance, there is a magical moment when he doesn't quite understand your neighbor's story about getting a piece of tail off some girl and actually thinks some women have tails. In other words, don't let the mysteries in life, don't let the awe something creates, don't let the magical experiences disappear because they are miracles that allow us to enjoy life. It's not about not understanding, it's about not letting the understanding take that part of the experience away.
Man, I didn't realize how many ignorant people are out here until I started posting on this. Do you really believe that there is nothing special about anything or that nothing can be bigger then yourself? Maybe I should reply in line instead of going off on a rant that i'm sure will not be understood.
i think you are missing their entire point of science and evolution, as well as the people that appreciate them. how exactly *do* you appreciate something without understanding? isn't the very act of appreciating the process of understanding?
No, I'm not missing anything. However, I do think things like evolution are overstated as fact instead of hypothesized theory where appropriate but that's another story and was only brought up by your comment. Anyways, there is states of awe and appreciation for the finer things in life that come from just enjoying the moment. It's like fireworks, we know there is a series of chemical reactions that propel them into the air and make them explode, even showing different colors and effects. But to sit there and appreciate their beauty and power when viewing them instead of concerning ourselves with exactly how they are made or what chemicals caused what, allows us to enjoy them more, its the magic of the event. And yes, Magic is used figuratively.
if you understand little about something, then it has little meaning, hence little appreciation. appreciation is the concept of understanding something in an increasing manner, such that it is connected to other knowledge, hence understanding it's place in everything and it's comparative value.
humans identify by comparison,value is identified the same way. if you can't compare things, they have less meaning and hence you have little clue as to their value.
on contrary, science is the very essence of understanding and placing things in context,helping to better understand the universe and it's components. by doing this we better understand the meaning of things and can appraise them with a more accurate value, hence more efficiently relating to them and letting us continue to evolve towards more awesome things.
complete and utter nonsense. Value is places on thing all the time without science being behind it. People put the value of being with family above the value of drinking with the boys all the time. People put value on paintings an objects of art that have no correlation to the science behind the pigmentation of metallurgy involved in the creations. You can even take something to create something else which it's value will be less then what it costs to put together.
But you see, all that aside, you are still missing the point. What's the difference between a man made hill and a small mountain? Very little when you are enjoying the beauty of it and the wild life surrounding it. You skip the details and appreciate the real things that have value to you- you seize the moment more or less.
why is understanding "boring" ? why is the pursuit of knowledge and a better understanding of external reality a sin? isn't to have a closer relationship with reality the ultimate goal, what could possibly be more important?
I'm not sure that anyone said either of that. At least not in our thread. It's not about not understanding, it's about not letting the understanding get in the way of the enjoyment. And who said anything about an ultimate goal and why would a closer relationship with reality require anything more then appreciating what is around you? I know that the reality of the situation is that gravity exists and has certain behaviors, but we don't know for a fact why it exists, and we can't recreate it in it's entirety in any experiments. that doesn't mean it isn't a reality though.
why is the rainbow or child-birth less appreciated because of a more accurate understanding of the *how* of it all? you sound just like the
Why don't you try simply reading the lyrics for yourself instead of parroting other sites who obviously got it wrong? Here, I'll even help you seeing how your search apparently only comes up with crap you want to support your misconceptions. You will find the first few lyrics set the premise for the entire song. It starts with If magic is all we've ever know Then it's easy to miss what really goes on
BTW, when you look at the rest of the lyrics, you will find things you can add to your list that have more then obvious answers then miracles; like the pyramids, UFO's, the shit you believe when your a kid, animals in in various forms, Music, and so on. You will find lines like Take a look at this fine creation- And enjoy it better with appreciation, Just open your mind, and it ain't no way- To ignore the miracles of every day.
The entire song is about appreciating the stuff that goes on around you. Work an scientists were most likely used only to get a rhyme with dirt and pissed.
A ) stop reducing EVERY argument to projecting your own failures with females. Not EVERYTHING is about getting laid. I talk starwars all day and then still manage to get laid. Anything you say "you should do X to get laid" is sexism. Thats assuming that women are in some way that men aren't. I assure you, for every guy out there going "rainbows are refractions of light!" there are JUST as many females saying the same thing. And I'm not even like, women's lib or something, I'm a DUDE and I think you're stereotyping/oversimplifying.
I can see you are projecting here. It sounds as if I struck a nerve and mentioned something you have had difficulty with or something. I know things aren't the way you wish they were but lets stay within the realm of reality here. Why we are at it, lets stay within the context too. I didn't say you couldn't get laid, I said you would have to pay for it. Admitting that you can get laid does nothing to detract from that. Romance isn't a sterile test tube. Get over it.
B ) "fucking magnets, how do they work?" and "I don't wanna ask a scientist" has FUCK ALL to do with being able to see the aesthetic beauty in something. WHY does everybody act like everything has to be so boolean, its THIS or its THAT. How about, you can understand how the rainbow works, completely, scientifically, but you can still go "its pretty". I don't see the conflict there.
It's fucking lyrics in a stupid song. No one called your mom a whore or anything, why are you so upset? I mean if you take the song in context instead of those two or three lines, you will see the big picture which is what I was attempting to explain. However, seeing how you insist on concentrating on a few lines in the entire stupid song that is filled with stupid shit, please tell me what is so violently wrong about those lines that they have to be taken out of context from the rest of the song and bitched about by slashdot who should know better to begin with? I mean read the damn lyrics, the song starts with: If magic is all we've ever know- Then it's easy to miss what really goes on- But I've seen miracles in every way And I see miracles everyday.
The song is about the moment different events or states of mind creates, about things being bigger then yourself. It's about realizing that and appreciating them. But like the damn song says, you have to ignore that and concentrate on a few lines making it mean something it does not. To quote the song, And I don't wanna talk to a scientist- Y'all motherfuckers lying, and getting me pissed. That is to say, you are making something out of nothing and creating a beast that simply isn't there. I'm sorry the song offended you by saying scientists lie, but of course the answer to that is that they have and do lie all the time. Remember the scientists claiming that smoking didn't cause harm to the body? Just look around and you will find scientists making unsupported claims to enrich their own lives or push the agenda of their employers. So where is the problem other then the context you can't seem to keep?
So, ultimately, you don't have to be ignorant, understanding science doesn't hurt you in any way, and this song is either just a troll attempt at publicity, or its just plain dumb. Look at us, we're ignorant! Yay!
Your right, you don't have to be ignorant. You don't have to be doctor laura or whoever claiming a fist bump is a terrorist sign or claiming killing prostitutes and cops in a game or song translates to the same in real life. The message of the song is carpe diem- not be stupid.
Bah, grow up, get over your huge problems with ANY form of authority, and realize that this world doesn't run by your rules, it works by its own. If you want to understand them or not, thats up to you, but its only going to get you in trouble if you don't.
Actually, some scientists are liars. So if you are going to only date brainwashed baboons who refuse to believe that scientist can be liars, then that's you own prerogative.
But I can tell how little interaction you have with the opposite sex by your reply that still missed the point after being almost spelled out with pictures drawn. You take the magic of the moment or event, not ruin it with the explanations that take that away. And no- that won't require telling someone that scientists are liars. You are attempting to ignore the entire song just to focus on words used to fill a verse in the song. And you already admit that it's a meaningless Celine Dion type song so why all the fuss?
why do you hope I don't cook for others? Or were you just at a loss for something seemingly witty to say?
Anyways, I know where the energy comes from. Zinc is cheap and abundant. It also need an acid in order for the energy to become usable to us- that's where the potatoes come into play. You can grow them as apposed to creating chemicals in a factory and shipping them in.
I suggest you read the lyrics to the entire song before following other idiots down the path of stupidity. So what is the words say scientists are liars, some are. So what, the song also says things you believed as kids was a miracle, do you think we should take that seriously too?
Get over it. I'm sorry that a song insulted your precious belief structure and you are now so offended that you think others should kill themselves. Perhaps the world would be better off if you took your own advice. Here, "scientists are liars", now you can hate me too.
Geeze, you would have thought they drew a picture of Mohamed or something with the reactions some are having.
Let me ask you this, I know it's going to be hard to consider seeing how I'm going suppose a situation with a mate. Anyways, suppose you and your girlfriend or boyfriend (however you role) are sitting on a mountain side after a day of hanging together and after a short rain, you are holding hands, getting a little romantic, and notice a rainbow. Do you say "look honey- a rainbow, isn't it pretty?" Or do you say, "look at the refractions of light caused by rain droplets creating a prism effect at an angle we can see, isn't the spectral composition of the light pleasing to the photo receptors in the cornea?".
I can guarantee that for the most part, how you answer will indicate whether you get laid without paying for it or not. The point wasn't that you can't have it both ways, it's that you don't want to ruin one way with insisting on the other. You can very well know how something is created or caused and still see the magic in it.
Well, as long as your attempting to quote the l;lyrics to prove your point, lets put some more in there to make that point valid.
Lets see, the song starts off with:If magic is all we've ever know Then it's easy to miss what really goes on
SO what do you suppose that means and how does it put the rest of the song- more specifically your point into context?
But wait, the song goes on and says But I've seen miracles in every way And I see miracles everyday; It lists some shit perceived as miracles and in that list it includes : UFOs, the pyramids, Everything you believed in as kids. It goes on to end the verse with: And music is magic, pure and clean You can feel it and hear it but it can't be seen.
How does that put what you cited into context? I mean they lists things that are obviously man made, pyramids, music, and things that are works of the imagination, UFOs (because it's no longer a UFO once it's been identified) and the things you believed as kids. So what do you think they are attempting to say here? and how does that reconcile with your comment?
Or is it that they insulted some precious belief by making some stupid statement in the middle of other stupid statements and you are now all offended like the church lady or something. Don't take one or two lines out of context with the rest of the song.
Lol.. I think you are missing the entire point of the song. It's not about any religion or elitism, it's about appreciating the things in life without needing to boil it down to some boring explanation. A rainbow or the birth of your child is a special moment that should be enjoyed and cherished, not some technical bullshit that takes any subliminal meaning away from it. It's about events that are a power greater then you- like 75,000 people in a room acting as one. the miracle isn't something any god did or caused, it's about how something is greater then the individual or you and against the odds, it came about. It's about how we should be in awe over those things instead of having it dwindled away to light refracting in a certain way.
I can understand why they didn't take kindly to a bunch of nerds who couldn't get that after being explained to them attempting to defeat the entire purpose of the song.
Branches and twigs can be burnt to boil the potatoes. It's not like they are going to boil them on an electric stove just to use to power a communications device 10 feet away. The people in these areas already have a means of cooking to eat without electricity so it's simply a matter of using energy potential available to get access to energy potential in a specific usable form. Burning wood wouldn't recharge a cell phone or power an internet connection- making a batery from a potato possible can.
Of course this doesn't even begin touching on the possibilities of simple solar stoves that could boil the potatoes in a afternoon. Or how they can boil the water to make food, save the water and recycle the heat for the boiling of the potatoes right after so most of the energy in boiling them is put to an already existing use (think of how long it takes to boil water to make pasta then instead of dumping the hot water down the drain right after, applying a little heat and boiling the potatoes).
Any person or company legally recognized in any WIPO member country can initiate legal action against offenders of laws derived from WIPO treaties or the items the treaties cover using the laws where the violation takes place if it's also a WIPO member country.
More specifically, the WCT and WPPT are the two treaties the DMCA is made from. This is also why you see DMCA like laws popping up all over the world too- it's a requirement of those two WIPO treaties. Anyways, the EU signed on to those two treaties on behalf of their member countries which makes them part of it. Being part of it means they have rights to use US laws against copyright violations and that US copyright laws have to be extended to their copyrighted materials.
It's not the worthless extremely bad person that deserves the respect, it's the institutionalized process that requires respect.
If you allow any process that takes the life of another to lose the respect it should carry, then it stops becoming a necessary evil and could turn into a bread and circuses situation where they look for people to kill.
Now I don't see anything wrong with what this AG did. But as for respect- the government should always show respect when taking a human life regardless of who it is. When respect has been historically missing, you will find that governments were taking lives for little reasons (debt- theft- poaching the kings animals- horse theft- and so on). If a person finds enjoyment or satisfaction from executing someone, they shouldn't be involved in the process outside of possibly being a spectator.
What they did was manipulate the salt bridge in the potato in a way that increased the output by ten fold. They found this was as simple to do as boiling the potato. Basically, they took something already known, and known to be limited, and raised those limits until it became somewhat practical for use in some situations.
In case you do not know what a salt bridge is, it's a conduit that allows ions to pass from one side of the battery's reaction to the other so the electrons do not create an imbalance and halt the flow when it gets saturated. In a traditional potato, this is limited, in a boiled potato, it is ten times (or up to) more efficient/effective as the article claims.
Why couldn't they do both? Being latent with the metals probably means it would be dangerous to drink, but I'm not sure that anything would happen to the sugars/starches that would prevent them from being fermented afterward.
Wouldn't solar, wind, or geothermal constitute an electrical infrastructure? I think the idea is to use these instead of batteries that are in use already because the solar wind or geothermal isn't set up yet. It doesn't seem like it's meant to replace existing infrastructure, just fill an expensive gap where funds may be tight.
Actually, I think the simple process that "nets/gets" more energy is the news. It seems that if you boil the potato before making the fifth grade science experiment, it alters some salt bridge inside the potato getting a 10 fold energy output potential. Now boiling potatoes probably isn't the really insightful portion, it's that this same salt bridge area is supposedly hampering more efficient battery development so the process changes could also lead to other developments.
Of course the article doesn't go into what the salt bridge is and being a typical/.er, I am commenting without looking it up first so I could sound as clueless as I really am here.
SO you know they were more then 3000 ft away at all times? It didn't look like it in the video but then again, it was zoomed in and grainy. And that's if the timer on the RPG shell hasn't been tampered with in order to extend or delay the self detonation. The RPG will travel more then 1000 yards, it just the limit on the timers for the warhead to go off that limit the range.
But hey, it doesn't really matter. As I said before, they saw the RPG and they saw the RPG being aimed. That is what was going through their minds at the time, not this Sunday morning armchair quarterbacking that seems to insist that the heli crew knew there were armed civilians with items looking similar to RPGs in the area that would be pointing those similar items at the helicopter. At the point when it appeared the weapons were aimed at them or another unit, it went from a casual meeting to a live or die instinctual reaction regardless of how far away they were or not. You simply do_not_ go into a battle zone thinking their weapons will bounce off like a mosquito and live to brag about it. The situation went from a what's this, to a They are threatening us before any What's this could be answered. Had that not occurred, I could side with you, but seeing how it did occur, however mistaken it may have been, they took the right actions. I don't care if you don't like that, I doubt you would have done much different given what was known at the time and not what is known now. Let someone shoot at you with the intent to kill you a couple of times, survive and tell me you won't get all instinctively defensive when you see someone pointing a gun at you again. And no, finding out afterwords that it wasn't a gun will not change how you reacted at the time it was happening.
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Why don't you go to the http://www.insaneclownposse.com/, click in the launch player link, and tell us which deity they are afraid to offend? BTW, that's not work safe and probably not family safe either.
It sounds like your comment is mostly out of your own ignorance. The reason why we know the shape of the world, about electricity, and so on is because the magic and wonders captivated someone and they explored them. You know what you know now because people did exactly what this song says, they opened their minds and saw what was going on, they ignored what they were told and explored their own reality. They felt the power of the moment, the miracle of the moment and embraced it. That is why you know what you know today. That is why we know the planets revolve around the sun and not the earth, that is why we know the world isn't flat and you won't fall off it. That is why we know many things we do today.
Stop confusing your fear of religions with this song or what it says. Stop imposing your fear of religion simply because the song uses a few words that religions use. Go ahead and listen to their crap on their website and tell me what religion they are afraid of offending. And if you bring up the dark carnival, then we all will know you are just an idiot who doesn't get the joke.
Perhaps you should take a course on comprehension or something. I postulated two distinct scenarios and said one of them wouldn't get you laid unless you were paying for it. I didn't even mention which one and left you to come to your own conclusions. That in and of itself is not a claim that you can't get laid. What is it does though, is it draws you into admitting the reality of the statements because you got offended when one statement and the result resembled personal experience.
Now- your personal revelation does not make a statement of fact from me. The statement was directed towards you but not at you and the conclusions of the statement was meant to be fulfilled by you. In other words, it was designed so that you would read it, say "hey, that's me" then post about it so the rest of the world will know by your own words.
Go ahead and reread the statement. without you injecting the your own personal experiences and realities into it, it makes no mention of whether or not you can get laid or if you specifically have to pay for it.
originally, the juggalo thing was more or less a way of not fitting in. It's like being a misfit without intentionally looking for trouble and knowing it. It was about knowing there where others like you but who like you didn't want to fall into a specific click. Juggalos pretty much did whatever they wanted and didn't subscribe to any creed other then do your own thing and listen to ICP and were generally the people society kicked to the side because they weren't pretty enough or didn't follow some certain belief or had the shit jobs or whatever. Many of the Juggalos have moved up in life as they got older but still claim on to the juggalo deal. The whole idea was that people didn't take them serious, they treated them like clowns- so along comes the insane clown posse who didn't ignore them. Their songs more or less make fun of other music genres and people in general which is probably why they are hated so much. Of course there are some that are just music- or seems that way. Most of their songs pretty much suck unless you get the inside joke behind them. Maybe they are just so bland that you can superimpose your own inside joke on them.
I'm not sure if it's the same now or not. I never was a juggalo but know people who were/are.
Anyways, I don't think they came out as Christian- If they did they have a funny way of showing it. There was a long running joke about purgatory but that was a joke. Go to their website and check out some of their music samplers-. Especially check out the Bang! Pow! Boom! selection (their newest album 2009). I warn you, it isn't work or family safe. In fact, I think it would get you thrown out of church as fast as they can grab you if you were to listen to it there. I think the Bang! Pow! Boom! selection is the first one by default if you click on the launch music player link. Check out the juggalo homies song too, it sort of describes the juggalos.
Again, lets keep the context. I only implied this about you after you got upset first.
I guess I'm imposing much of the other replies I have read in with your comments. A lot of them are making claims about pushing bibles and crap like that because the song mentioned miracles and shit. It's getting really frustrating when someone makes a claim that is only supported in their head. I guess maybe I was getting a little short with you for no reason.
The ICP have some BS where they attempt to talk in rhymes. In the movie, "big money hustlers" they even made fun of it when the star or main charactor is bummed out and all drugged up. It's sort of rap thing or something, I'm not sure because I'm not really into them.
Anyways, in the song, it the lines go:
What I was commenting on was the around me rhyming with astounding- dirt and work- scientist and pissed- weather and together. Every line seems to have to rhyme and I'm probably sure that the line fucking magnets, how do they work was to get a rhyme with Water, Fire, Air and Dirt. The line about scient-ists and pissed are the same.
Evidently, the message isn't all that clear. The message is more of open your mind, and don't stop enjoying the mysteries and things around you. It's that there are magical moments you don't want to get lost in the details of.
It's not about not learning or anything of the sort. It's about the possibilities and wonders associated with them. For instance, it mentions the pyramids, we know about when they were built, we think we know how and by whom, we know what they were used for, but they are still one of the wonders of the world and for good reason. Take the part about a child's imagination for instance, there is a magical moment when he doesn't quite understand your neighbor's story about getting a piece of tail off some girl and actually thinks some women have tails. In other words, don't let the mysteries in life, don't let the awe something creates, don't let the magical experiences disappear because they are miracles that allow us to enjoy life. It's not about not understanding, it's about not letting the understanding take that part of the experience away.
Man, I didn't realize how many ignorant people are out here until I started posting on this. Do you really believe that there is nothing special about anything or that nothing can be bigger then yourself? Maybe I should reply in line instead of going off on a rant that i'm sure will not be understood.
No, I'm not missing anything. However, I do think things like evolution are overstated as fact instead of hypothesized theory where appropriate but that's another story and was only brought up by your comment. Anyways, there is states of awe and appreciation for the finer things in life that come from just enjoying the moment. It's like fireworks, we know there is a series of chemical reactions that propel them into the air and make them explode, even showing different colors and effects. But to sit there and appreciate their beauty and power when viewing them instead of concerning ourselves with exactly how they are made or what chemicals caused what, allows us to enjoy them more, its the magic of the event. And yes, Magic is used figuratively.
complete and utter nonsense. Value is places on thing all the time without science being behind it. People put the value of being with family above the value of drinking with the boys all the time. People put value on paintings an objects of art that have no correlation to the science behind the pigmentation of metallurgy involved in the creations. You can even take something to create something else which it's value will be less then what it costs to put together.
But you see, all that aside, you are still missing the point. What's the difference between a man made hill and a small mountain? Very little when you are enjoying the beauty of it and the wild life surrounding it. You skip the details and appreciate the real things that have value to you- you seize the moment more or less.
I'm not sure that anyone said either of that. At least not in our thread. It's not about not understanding, it's about not letting the understanding get in the way of the enjoyment. And who said anything about an ultimate goal and why would a closer relationship with reality require anything more then appreciating what is around you? I know that the reality of the situation is that gravity exists and has certain behaviors, but we don't know for a fact why it exists, and we can't recreate it in it's entirety in any experiments. that doesn't mean it isn't a reality though.
Why don't you try simply reading the lyrics for yourself instead of parroting other sites who obviously got it wrong? Here, I'll even help you seeing how your search apparently only comes up with crap you want to support your misconceptions. You will find the first few lyrics set the premise for the entire song. It starts with If magic is all we've ever know
Then it's easy to miss what really goes on
BTW, when you look at the rest of the lyrics, you will find things you can add to your list that have more then obvious answers then miracles; like the pyramids, UFO's, the shit you believe when your a kid, animals in in various forms, Music, and so on. You will find lines like Take a look at this fine creation- And enjoy it better with appreciation, Just open your mind, and it ain't no way- To ignore the miracles of every day.
The entire song is about appreciating the stuff that goes on around you. Work an scientists were most likely used only to get a rhyme with dirt and pissed.
I can see you are projecting here. It sounds as if I struck a nerve and mentioned something you have had difficulty with or something. I know things aren't the way you wish they were but lets stay within the realm of reality here. Why we are at it, lets stay within the context too. I didn't say you couldn't get laid, I said you would have to pay for it. Admitting that you can get laid does nothing to detract from that. Romance isn't a sterile test tube. Get over it.
It's fucking lyrics in a stupid song. No one called your mom a whore or anything, why are you so upset? I mean if you take the song in context instead of those two or three lines, you will see the big picture which is what I was attempting to explain. However, seeing how you insist on concentrating on a few lines in the entire stupid song that is filled with stupid shit, please tell me what is so violently wrong about those lines that they have to be taken out of context from the rest of the song and bitched about by slashdot who should know better to begin with? I mean read the damn lyrics, the song starts with: If magic is all we've ever know- Then it's easy to miss what really goes on- But I've seen miracles in every way And I see miracles everyday.
The song is about the moment different events or states of mind creates, about things being bigger then yourself. It's about realizing that and appreciating them. But like the damn song says, you have to ignore that and concentrate on a few lines making it mean something it does not. To quote the song, And I don't wanna talk to a scientist- Y'all motherfuckers lying, and getting me pissed. That is to say, you are making something out of nothing and creating a beast that simply isn't there. I'm sorry the song offended you by saying scientists lie, but of course the answer to that is that they have and do lie all the time. Remember the scientists claiming that smoking didn't cause harm to the body? Just look around and you will find scientists making unsupported claims to enrich their own lives or push the agenda of their employers. So where is the problem other then the context you can't seem to keep?
Your right, you don't have to be ignorant. You don't have to be doctor laura or whoever claiming a fist bump is a terrorist sign or claiming killing prostitutes and cops in a game or song translates to the same in real life. The message of the song is carpe diem- not be stupid.
It sounds like you are the one that need
It doesn't say scientists are liars about magnets. What exactly are you trying to get at here?
Actually, some scientists are liars. So if you are going to only date brainwashed baboons who refuse to believe that scientist can be liars, then that's you own prerogative.
But I can tell how little interaction you have with the opposite sex by your reply that still missed the point after being almost spelled out with pictures drawn. You take the magic of the moment or event, not ruin it with the explanations that take that away. And no- that won't require telling someone that scientists are liars. You are attempting to ignore the entire song just to focus on words used to fill a verse in the song. And you already admit that it's a meaningless Celine Dion type song so why all the fuss?
God I wish I had mod points for that.
This was the first post in I don't remmeber how long that actually made me laugh. Good going.
why do you hope I don't cook for others? Or were you just at a loss for something seemingly witty to say?
Anyways, I know where the energy comes from. Zinc is cheap and abundant. It also need an acid in order for the energy to become usable to us- that's where the potatoes come into play. You can grow them as apposed to creating chemicals in a factory and shipping them in.
I suggest you read the lyrics to the entire song before following other idiots down the path of stupidity. So what is the words say scientists are liars, some are. So what, the song also says things you believed as kids was a miracle, do you think we should take that seriously too?
Get over it. I'm sorry that a song insulted your precious belief structure and you are now so offended that you think others should kill themselves. Perhaps the world would be better off if you took your own advice. Here, "scientists are liars", now you can hate me too.
Geeze, you would have thought they drew a picture of Mohamed or something with the reactions some are having.
Let me ask you this, I know it's going to be hard to consider seeing how I'm going suppose a situation with a mate. Anyways, suppose you and your girlfriend or boyfriend (however you role) are sitting on a mountain side after a day of hanging together and after a short rain, you are holding hands, getting a little romantic, and notice a rainbow. Do you say "look honey- a rainbow, isn't it pretty?" Or do you say, "look at the refractions of light caused by rain droplets creating a prism effect at an angle we can see, isn't the spectral composition of the light pleasing to the photo receptors in the cornea?".
I can guarantee that for the most part, how you answer will indicate whether you get laid without paying for it or not. The point wasn't that you can't have it both ways, it's that you don't want to ruin one way with insisting on the other. You can very well know how something is created or caused and still see the magic in it.
Well, as long as your attempting to quote the l;lyrics to prove your point, lets put some more in there to make that point valid.
Lets see, the song starts off with :If magic is all we've ever know
Then it's easy to miss what really goes on
SO what do you suppose that means and how does it put the rest of the song- more specifically your point into context?
But wait, the song goes on and says But I've seen miracles in every way
And I see miracles everyday;
It lists some shit perceived as miracles and in that list it includes : UFOs, the pyramids, Everything you believed in as kids. It goes on to end the verse with: And music is magic, pure and clean You can feel it and hear it but it can't be seen.
How does that put what you cited into context? I mean they lists things that are obviously man made, pyramids, music, and things that are works of the imagination, UFOs (because it's no longer a UFO once it's been identified) and the things you believed as kids. So what do you think they are attempting to say here? and how does that reconcile with your comment?
Or is it that they insulted some precious belief by making some stupid statement in the middle of other stupid statements and you are now all offended like the church lady or something. Don't take one or two lines out of context with the rest of the song.
Lol.. I think you are missing the entire point of the song. It's not about any religion or elitism, it's about appreciating the things in life without needing to boil it down to some boring explanation. A rainbow or the birth of your child is a special moment that should be enjoyed and cherished, not some technical bullshit that takes any subliminal meaning away from it. It's about events that are a power greater then you- like 75,000 people in a room acting as one. the miracle isn't something any god did or caused, it's about how something is greater then the individual or you and against the odds, it came about. It's about how we should be in awe over those things instead of having it dwindled away to light refracting in a certain way.
I can understand why they didn't take kindly to a bunch of nerds who couldn't get that after being explained to them attempting to defeat the entire purpose of the song.
Branches and twigs can be burnt to boil the potatoes. It's not like they are going to boil them on an electric stove just to use to power a communications device 10 feet away. The people in these areas already have a means of cooking to eat without electricity so it's simply a matter of using energy potential available to get access to energy potential in a specific usable form. Burning wood wouldn't recharge a cell phone or power an internet connection- making a batery from a potato possible can.
Of course this doesn't even begin touching on the possibilities of simple solar stoves that could boil the potatoes in a afternoon. Or how they can boil the water to make food, save the water and recycle the heat for the boiling of the potatoes right after so most of the energy in boiling them is put to an already existing use (think of how long it takes to boil water to make pasta then instead of dumping the hot water down the drain right after, applying a little heat and boiling the potatoes).
Any person or company legally recognized in any WIPO member country can initiate legal action against offenders of laws derived from WIPO treaties or the items the treaties cover using the laws where the violation takes place if it's also a WIPO member country.
More specifically, the WCT and WPPT are the two treaties the DMCA is made from. This is also why you see DMCA like laws popping up all over the world too- it's a requirement of those two WIPO treaties. Anyways, the EU signed on to those two treaties on behalf of their member countries which makes them part of it. Being part of it means they have rights to use US laws against copyright violations and that US copyright laws have to be extended to their copyrighted materials.
It's not the worthless extremely bad person that deserves the respect, it's the institutionalized process that requires respect.
If you allow any process that takes the life of another to lose the respect it should carry, then it stops becoming a necessary evil and could turn into a bread and circuses situation where they look for people to kill.
Now I don't see anything wrong with what this AG did. But as for respect- the government should always show respect when taking a human life regardless of who it is. When respect has been historically missing, you will find that governments were taking lives for little reasons (debt- theft- poaching the kings animals- horse theft- and so on). If a person finds enjoyment or satisfaction from executing someone, they shouldn't be involved in the process outside of possibly being a spectator.
You didn't either.
What they did was manipulate the salt bridge in the potato in a way that increased the output by ten fold. They found this was as simple to do as boiling the potato. Basically, they took something already known, and known to be limited, and raised those limits until it became somewhat practical for use in some situations.
In case you do not know what a salt bridge is, it's a conduit that allows ions to pass from one side of the battery's reaction to the other so the electrons do not create an imbalance and halt the flow when it gets saturated. In a traditional potato, this is limited, in a boiled potato, it is ten times (or up to) more efficient/effective as the article claims.
Why couldn't they do both? Being latent with the metals probably means it would be dangerous to drink, but I'm not sure that anything would happen to the sugars/starches that would prevent them from being fermented afterward.
Wouldn't solar, wind, or geothermal constitute an electrical infrastructure? I think the idea is to use these instead of batteries that are in use already because the solar wind or geothermal isn't set up yet. It doesn't seem like it's meant to replace existing infrastructure, just fill an expensive gap where funds may be tight.
Actually, I think the simple process that "nets/gets" more energy is the news. It seems that if you boil the potato before making the fifth grade science experiment, it alters some salt bridge inside the potato getting a 10 fold energy output potential. Now boiling potatoes probably isn't the really insightful portion, it's that this same salt bridge area is supposedly hampering more efficient battery development so the process changes could also lead to other developments.
Of course the article doesn't go into what the salt bridge is and being a typical /.er, I am commenting without looking it up first so I could sound as clueless as I really am here.
SO you know they were more then 3000 ft away at all times? It didn't look like it in the video but then again, it was zoomed in and grainy. And that's if the timer on the RPG shell hasn't been tampered with in order to extend or delay the self detonation. The RPG will travel more then 1000 yards, it just the limit on the timers for the warhead to go off that limit the range.
But hey, it doesn't really matter. As I said before, they saw the RPG and they saw the RPG being aimed. That is what was going through their minds at the time, not this Sunday morning armchair quarterbacking that seems to insist that the heli crew knew there were armed civilians with items looking similar to RPGs in the area that would be pointing those similar items at the helicopter. At the point when it appeared the weapons were aimed at them or another unit, it went from a casual meeting to a live or die instinctual reaction regardless of how far away they were or not. You simply do_not_ go into a battle zone thinking their weapons will bounce off like a mosquito and live to brag about it. The situation went from a what's this, to a They are threatening us before any What's this could be answered. Had that not occurred, I could side with you, but seeing how it did occur, however mistaken it may have been, they took the right actions. I don't care if you don't like that, I doubt you would have done much different given what was known at the time and not what is known now. Let someone shoot at you with the intent to kill you a couple of times, survive and tell me you won't get all instinctively defensive when you see someone pointing a gun at you again. And no, finding out afterwords that it wasn't a gun will not change how you reacted at the time it was happening.